From: Nel.Hartman@email.arizona.edu

What is this? It's come up with my name. I wanted to use my nickname
Saguaro. I need to fix this. Done. Sorry fdor talking to myself.

Saguaro



On Thu, 07 May 2020 09:28:41 +0800, Nel Hartman
<Nel.Hartman@email.arizona.edu> wrote:

Hi. Just learning how to post and searched for any Carlos groups. Got
this one and something called fido7.ru.castaneda the ru being russia I
guess?

I can't even download anything on the russian one.

Anyhow, looking at the posts I/ve downloaded here it seems I might be
in the wrong group. There's nothing I can see recently about Carlos.

Any suggestions for me please? I need something to do until the
classes are back on campus.

Saguaro

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From: Nel.Hartman@email.arizona.edu

Hi. Just learning how to post and searched for any Carlos groups. Got
this one and something called fido7.ru.castaneda the ru being russia I
guess?

I can't even download anything on the russian one.

Anyhow, looking at the posts I/ve downloaded here it seems I might be
in the wrong group. There's nothing I can see recently about Carlos.

Any suggestions for me please? I need something to do until the
classes are back on campus.

Saguaro

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

no the little turd died about 22 years ago.
He's dead and so if all the crap he wrote.
It was a hoax. I wouldn't pay it any mind.

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

### - hiya, this used to be a usenet group for people perhaps more closely associated with cc (participants who either worked with cc directly via private classes and/or who went to tensegrity seminars etc) but which has subsequently dwindled to almost nada since he died in 1998 due to a lack
of interest and/or that of people eventually moving-on to other pastures...

there are still a few 'active' groups around, including what was once cc's own official 'www.cleargreen.com' + other related info-sites such as www.sustainedaction.org/ (a kind of anti-cc forum organised by
ex-castanada affectionados that was created after he died purporting to

was created way before the little charlatan croaked.
It was up and running for a long time, it may still be running.

collate all and any relevant information pertaining to his teachings and subsequent demise, but even they are fading away these days from a lack of interest) many people becoming quite angry and disillusioned with his work when he supposedly (read: officially) died without burning with 'the fire
from within' etc etc etc...

all that's basically left of this group now, being a couple of old friends still left chewing the fat and occasionally discussing/laffing-at the
state of the world + with maybe a couple of aberrant gaslighters with apparently nada better to do than to harangue anyone they can possibly get
a rise out of, probably because they just never grew up? (that's my
opinion anyway heh)

if you're looking for something interesting to 'do' that's still kinda cc-related (albeit indirectly) then you can check out www.thewildway.com
for a cool book on 'dreaming-awake' (and how to do it) along with a bunch
of free helper-videos on youtube for newbies that are now available from
that same site...

Ps. to change your name/nickname, you'll need to go into the properties
area of your mail program that deals with newsgroups and enter/alter it there.

good luck + i hope this helps :)

never miss a chance to recruit new blood.

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From: slider@anashram.com

Saguaro wrote...

Hi. Just learning how to post and searched for any Carlos groups. Got
this one and something called fido7.ru.castaneda the ru being russia I
guess?

I can't even download anything on the russian one.

Anyhow, looking at the posts I/ve downloaded here it seems I might be
in the wrong group. There's nothing I can see recently about Carlos.

Any suggestions for me please? I need something to do until the
classes are back on campus.

Saguaro

### - hiya, this used to be a usenet group for people perhaps more closely associated with cc (participants who either worked with cc directly via
private classes and/or who went to tensegrity seminars etc) but which has subsequently dwindled to almost nada since he died in 1998 due to a lack
of interest and/or that of people eventually moving-on to other pastures...

there are still a few 'active' groups around, including what was once cc's
own official 'www.cleargreen.com' + other related info-sites such as www.sustainedaction.org/ (a kind of anti-cc forum organised by
ex-castanada affectionados that was created after he died purporting to
collate all and any relevant information pertaining to his teachings and subsequent demise, but even they are fading away these days from a lack of interest) many people becoming quite angry and disillusioned with his work
when he supposedly (read: officially) died without burning with 'the fire
from within' etc etc etc...

all that's basically left of this group now, being a couple of old friends still left chewing the fat and occasionally discussing/laffing-at the
state of the world + with maybe a couple of aberrant gaslighters with apparently nada better to do than to harangue anyone they can possibly get
a rise out of, probably because they just never grew up? (that's my
opinion anyway heh)

if you're looking for something interesting to 'do' that's still kinda cc-related (albeit indirectly) then you can check out www.thewildway.com
for a cool book on 'dreaming-awake' (and how to do it) along with a bunch
of free helper-videos on youtube for newbies that are now available from
that same site...

Ps. to change your name/nickname, you'll need to go into the properties
area of your mail program that deals with newsgroups and enter/alter it
there.

good luck + i hope this helps :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

good luck + i hope this helps :)

never miss a chance to recruit new blood.

### - smile, so what do ya do when some kid comes wandering up to ya in
the street and the first thing they tell ya is they dunno wtf they's doin'
or where they's going for christsakes? would ya deliberately send 'em the
wrong way by providing incorrect directions for example?? (some like
jeremy might outta spite but i just wouldn't/can't, no more than i'd kick
some kids football into the middle of a busy road kinda thing...)

it was thus a comprehensive reply for those with the eyes to
read/see/translate it, and with hindsight later then for those that
can't...

i.e., sometimes a play is more than just a play ;)

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From: intraphase@gmail.com

All of Carlos's writings attempt to truthfully describe
a "permanent" world that always was, is, and shall be.
A world navigated by thought and the intention to survive.
He was a flawed human being with his own defects as is everyone.


Book List

1968--The Teachings of don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge
1971--A Separate Reality: Further Conversations with don Juan
1972--Journey to Ixtlan: The Lessons of don Juan
1974--Tales Of Power
1977--The Second Ring of Power
1981--The Eagle's Gift
1984--The Fire From Within
1987--The Power of Silence: Further lessons of don Juan
1993--The Art of Dreaming
1999--The Active Side of Infinity.

The Art of Dreaming

Sorcerers bring order to the chaos. Their preconceived, transcendental purpose is to free their perception. Sorcerers don't make up the world they are perceiving; they perceive energy directly, and then they discover that what they are perceiving is an
unknown new world, which can swallow them whole, because it is as real as anything we know to be real.


The Active Side of Infinity

A dot of a peculiar, rich, pomegranate red shows up, as if bursting from the lavender clouds. As sorcerers become more disciplined and experienced, the dot of pomegranate expands and finally explodes into thoughts or visions, or in the
case of a literate
man, into written words; sorcerers either see visions engendered by energy, hear thoughts being voiced as words, or read written words.

There's nothing gentle about sorcerers or sorcery. The first time that infinity
descends on you it may be a total takeover of your faculties. Insofar as the speed of your visions is concerned, you yourself will have to learn to adjust it. For some
sorcerers, that's the job of a lifetime. Energy may
appear to you as if it were being projected onto a movie screen. Whether or not
you understand what's projected is another matter. In order to make an accurate
interpretation you need experience. My recommendation is that you shouldn't be bashful, and
you should begin now.

Your true mind is emerging, and it has nothing to do with the mind that is a foreign installation . Let your true mind adjust the speed. Be silent, and don't fret, no matter what happens.

Anyway, infinity chooses. The warrior-traveler simply acquiesces to that choice. But above all, don't be overwhelmed by the event because you cannot describe it. It is an event beyond the syntax of our language.

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From: slider@anashram.com

no the little turd died about 22 years ago.
He's dead and so if all the crap he wrote.
It was a hoax. I wouldn't pay it any mind.

### - way-to-go letting the 'new' guy down gently huh?

lol :)))

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From: intraphase@gmail.com

Expanding Ones Perception
https://youtu.be/9ud7wgbBBnY

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From: Nel.Hartman@email.arizona.edu

Lord. That's plain nasty and I don't belioeve you

On Wed, 6 May 2020 20:15:13 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

no the little turd died about 22 years ago.
He's dead and so if all the crap he wrote.
It was a hoax. I wouldn't pay it any mind.

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

Lord. That's plain nasty and I don't belioeve you

and why would anyone give a shit what you think ?

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From: slider@atashram.com

Lord. That's plain nasty and I don't belioeve you

and why would anyone give a shit what you think ?

### - oop's, better make that 'one' old geezer left chewin' the fat and
'three' gaslighters?

LOL :)))

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From: Nel.Hartman@email.arizona.edu

I'm young so probably you're right. Nobody cares what I think. But
whats your problem? I thought this group was about Carlos who my dad
used to know. I've got his notes and evertything since when he died.
He was going to write a book on everything about hime and Carlos but
his death caught up with him.

I have to get some education no matter what's happening and I can't go
to campus due to the virus. It would help if you would be nice to me.

Saguaro



On Thu, 7 May 2020 20:37:01 -0700 (PDT), luckyrat
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

Lord. That's plain nasty and I don't belioeve you

and why would anyone give a shit what you think ?

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From: slider@atashram.com

Saguaro wrote...

I'm young so probably you're right. Nobody cares what I think. But
whats your problem? I thought this group was about Carlos who my dad
used to know. I've got his notes and evertything since when he died.
He was going to write a book on everything about hime and Carlos but
his death caught up with him.

I have to get some education no matter what's happening and I can't go
to campus due to the virus. It would help if you would be nice to me.

Saguaro

### - (slider smiles as he puts the finishing touches to saguaro's
borrowed shin-pads, crotch-box & new head and teeth protectors, as ya
can't be too careful in this place hah...)

there ya go saguaro, coz no way is luckyrat not coming back to ya on this
lol, and that should keep ya goin' through a couple more rounds heh; just remember to keep your guard up, and if he comes atcha with a right-cross
to always counter with a left-hook every time, and you'll be fine ;)

ding-ding! ;)

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

Saguarito writes:

I'm young so probably you're right. Nobody cares what I think.

get use to it kid. they are busy worshipping their own thoughts,
few have to time to consider yours, just the way it is, nothing
personal you know ?

But whats your problem? I thought this group was about Carlos who my dad used to know. I've got his notes and evertything since when he died.
He was going to write a book on everything about hime and Carlos but
his death caught up with him.> > I have to get some education no matter

what's happening and I can't go

to campus due to the virus. It would help if you would be nice to me.

you would like for me to hold your hand perhaps.
Here little saguarito come here boy, sit down and we will
cater all our attention just for you. Will you feel better then ?
Should we run down everything just for you that has happened with
this hoaxer in the last 25 years or so? The only way i know how to
put is that he was lying sack of caca. He wrote whoppers, not the kind
you eat but the kind of story that is pure baloney. Ok, so was i nice
enought to you now? Feel better? Or would you like to hear a bunch
of tales of power? Read Harry Potter, it makes more sense.

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