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- you were saying/suggesting though that tricky-dicky was maybe really
talkin' about the aztecs but changed the name to toltec so as not to
offend any aztec-ies heh, but this is unlikely because 'all' that lot
(including the toltecs we know of historically) were all much more
recent
civilisations only going back maybe as much as 2000 years, whereas cc
was
talkin' 10,000 years! a 'pre-historical' time that seems far too long
ago
for people (let alone any civilisations) to even be there at all!
he made that shit up. Everything is always 10,000 years for guessers.
what kind of continuity would there be to carry forth information for
8,000
years? None. It's a load of horseshit.
### - (laffing) you're sooo sure? (now are ya sure ya sure??) ;)
i mean, even stopped clocks are right fairly regularly innit, the problem
being we don't know what he gots right and what's not right, what's bs and
what ain't, lol if he stole everything maybe even he didn't know! :)))
nada's for certain matie, that's all i do know... yes ya have to doubt everything, but ya also gots to try and piece things together as well +
from 'our' pov we don't know what's bs and what ain't!
so then, all one can 'reasonably' do is to keep an open mind and to look
at everything equally, and because it's all too easy to just dismiss
anything as being bs if we're really only guessing?
we don't know! (is all we know heh...)
cc being the first to suggest such a thing via his stories + oddly
enough
they seem to have then revised the time they 'thought' people first
appeared there going back to around that time, or even earlier! that
there
may in fact have been 'several' migrations of peoples going south
instead
of just the one they'd nailed, maybe even as much as 14,000 years ago or
more (probably far more!)
that don't mean shit. has nothing to do with his crap that he whipped
up.
more like that his team of sorcerers were hooked up with the Mexicans in central Mexico who were associated with churches. That he did report on.
Or should i say he fabricated. Sorcerers in church? Sure. sure
pally.
### - hahaha, you really do go right into one on this subject don't you,
no quarter given, everything is bs, fingers wedged firmly in your ears
singing la-la-la, end of story ahaha :)))
problem is lol.... he was right about 'some' things?
'dreaming awake' for example! ;)
(this might even be the reason you subconsciously refuse to WILD more... volitionally?)
truth is... 'we' dunno shit about shinola lol :)))
so all we're left with is to find our own way step by painful step?
and well, WILDing is a 'tool', e.g., because it affords direct access to 'silent knowledge', and IF there's any answers to anything then that's
where we'll likely find them, if anywhere...
and the 'only' way you're ever gonna believe/accept 'any' of that is to
'know' it for yourself, directly, by standing in that same zone, asking
good questions while your there, and then making up your own damn mind
about it... nada else will do for a sceptic such as yourself!
and in order to 'do' that, you have to put everything you 'think' you know
& believe/disbelieve to one side for a moment and do some 'objective' probing...
you can't trust anyone else + you can't even trust yourself, so it's the
only way!
and it's not like you dunno how to do it either! all it takes is a
'concerted' effort knowing + realising exactly what it is you're trying/attempting to do, and sticking to that like glue until it yields!
it's really as simple as that! what's not simple is the willpower part of
it that keeps you at it until 'it' starts doin' what 'you' want it to do,
when ya wants it to! (smile)
that's what WILDing is! it's a 'deliberate' thing not a passive thing!
it's in us all to be 'able' to do it, but we're completely outta
practice/rusty is all/have never fuckin' used it except accidentally...
and so it takes a good few attempts to get it all back up and running in a wholly more 'conscious' way instead of the default unconscious way we been usin' it till now (and that includes dild-doing btw heh, because ya have
to passively wait on 'em to appear...)
you've personally had/experienced several WILDs by now, so ya know that's
no bs right?
it's all been kinda haphazard though and not performed very deliberately
nor precisely as yet, but you have indeed been where WILDs takes us a few
times now, what you haven't done as yet, though, is to stand at the midway point and play around with all that too?
and the only way to reach said midway point is to deliberately WILD and
bounce back & forth a few times between waking and dreaming till something
in you clicks/cottens-to the existence of that midway point, at which
point you can then begin to quite deliberately manipulate it!
at first this takes the form of being in more than one place (in
awareness) at the same time (e.g., both that of laying in bed awake AND
being in a lucid dream at the exact same time!)
something which then matures into an access to this silent/inner knowledge
+ an accompanying feeling of utter confidence like one can't even imagine
let alone fake!
where we go from there is anyone's business, and because there's quite a
few places we can indeed go to from that supremely confident pov, places
that are only perceivable and that only make-sense whilst standing at the midway point conducting it all!
and because everything else is just... talk/debate... and no action ;)
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