• China exposed: Expert reveals 'real reason' Beijing attempted pandemic

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2020 12:07:08
    From: slider@atashram.com

    CHINA's government has come under fire for its initial handling of the coronavirus pandemic - and one expert tells Express.co.uk that President
    Xi Jinping did not want to address the issue because of the country's
    trade war with the US.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1273340/china-coronavirus-news-expert-reveals-real-reason-beijing-cover-up-spt

    The world was first alerted to coronavirus in December 2019, but one of
    the whistleblowers – Li Wenliang, a doctor in Wuhan – was punished for warning other doctors of a new SARS-like disease in a WhatsApp chat. He
    was reprimanded for “spreading rumours” by Chinese police – who forced him
    to sign a police document admitting that he had “seriously disrupted
    social order”.

    After catching the coronavirus, Li died in early February and caused
    Chinese internet to overflow with anti-government messages despite the country's strict censorship. The doctor has been officially exonerated by
    an investigation into his death, although some argue this did not go far
    enough as only the reprimand was withdrawn. While the coronavirus threat reached other countries, China's attempts to prevent news of the disease travelling has been condemned.

    Expert on Chinese history and politics – Professor Steve Tsang – says the country's government opts for secrecy by default.

    Mr Tsang highlights how there is a severe lack of transparency in Beijing
    which likely contributed to the escalation of the crisis.

    He told Express.co.uk: "The Chinese Communist Party does secrecy as a
    matter of course.

    "So I think the early stages of the lack of transparency isn't the result
    of any particular conspiracy or ill-intention to move – the party doesn't
    do transparency as a normal course of action.

    "The party is first and foremost interested in keeping the party in power
    – and under Xi Jinping – to make sure Xi Jinping is always seen to be
    right and never seen to have made a mistake.

    "So if something goes wrong, it is not in the nature of the party to acknowledge it to begin with."

    Mr Tsang also argues that the country's government was distracted by trade
    war negotiation with US President Donald Trump, meaning Xi Jinping was reluctant to divert his attention elsewhere.

    He added: "So you have the emergence of this potential threat, potential challenge.

    "It could be very significant in terms of public health, but it happened
    at a time when Xi Jinping was focussed on trying to get a deal with Donald Trump for the trade war.

    "You have to be an extraordinarily courageous and brave party secretary in Wuhan or the Hubei Province to to try and distract Xi Jinping from the
    trade war, and focus on something which will be a public health challenge
    in a far away place called Wuhan – which he doesn't normally visit anyway.

    "The early stages of the cover-up simply happened because of the nature of
    the system."

    The economic feud between the US and China had already been boiling for
    some time, but escalated when US President Trump raised tariffs and
    devastating trade barriers in 2018 after Washington grew restless due to
    unfair trade methods from Beijing.

    Washington complaints included theft of trade secrets, theft of
    intellectual property and the forced transfer of US technology to China.

    But last year, after months of disagreement, Xi and Trump agreed to a
    "phase one" trade deal, including a “dramatic expansion of US food, agriculture and seafood product exports”.

    Now, all the progress that had been made could be upended after President
    Trump hit out at China this week.

    He blamed Beijing for a lack of transparency over the true extent of the outbreak in China.

    James Crabtree, an associate professor at Singapore’s Lee Kuan Yew School
    of Public Policy, told CNBC: “US-China relations are at their worst point
    in living memory for a number of decades probably since the Seventies, at
    the moment there’s a grand exercise in blame shifting going on, on both sides."

    ### - quite possibly the real reason why china was so slow in coming
    forward about its internal problems?

    there's a ring of truth about it anyway + if so it's partially our fault
    too that its like that; our own paranoia concerning communism being
    directly to blame by fostering such secretiveness...

    and is a shame in many ways, in that china was quite possibly 'just'
    coming to the negotiating table to deal etc, so is/was doubly embarrassing
    for them!

    that if we ever get-through all this virus crap, maybe it's indeed time
    for the world to change a bit anyway about being, and remaining, quite so paranoid & divisive?

    a fair shake of the stick 'for-all' being that much more 'adult' shall we
    say in a world of dwindling resources?

    yeah humanity, maybe it's time to put old rivalries aside, and
    grow-the-fuck-up some for a change!

    find a 'new' (read: better) way instead: one of cooperation rather than competition?

    it's saner :)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2020 07:35:02
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    More sources tallying Kim as deceased. Bit of back story to a month ago.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/fresh-reports-say-kim-jong-un-evacuated-pyongyang-trump-slams-fake-news-his-sudden


    North Korea's Kim Jong Un Reported By Japanese Media To Be In Vegetative State

    Sat, 04/25/2020 - 10:17


    Update (4/25/2020): Taiwan News relays that Japanese media, citing the medical team treating Kim Jong Un, is reporting that the 36-year-old has been left in a
    vegetative state following a botched heart surgery.

    Amid conflicting reports about Kim's health, Japanese weekly magazine Shukan Gendai reported on Friday (April 24) that a Chinese medical team member on the mission to North Korea briefly explained the situation to its senior writer, Kondm Daisuke.

    The medical expert said during a visit to the countryside earlier this month, Kim clutched his chest and fell to the ground. A doctor accompanying Kim
    immediately carried out CPR and took him to a nearby hospital for emergency care.

    The doctor also requested a medical team from Beijing for assistance. At the hospital, prior to the arrival of the Chinese medical team, the North Korean doctor performed cardiac surgery but there were complications due to the
    hereditary dictator's
    obesity and the doctor's anxiety. -Taiwan News

    A variation of the rumor was repeated by a Beijing television executive whose uncle is a Chinese foreign minister - telling her 15 million followers on Weibo
    that Kim Jong Un is dead based on a "very solid source."

    Hong Kong news outlets, meanwhile, begun reporting rumors of Kim's death.

    #BREAKING: Beijing-backed satellite TV channel’s vice director, also a niece of a chinese foreign minister, has claimed that Kim Jong Un is dead. She says that she got told this from a «very solid source». She also has over 15 million followers
    on Weibo pic.twitter.com/v8HnTYZw4c
    — Dwain Jude D'silva (@JudeDwain) April 24, 2020

    Of note, Bloomberg reports that a North Korean sympathizer calls Kim's health rumors 'false.'

    Here is a more detailed - and very unconfirmed - thread on what allegedly happened according to Shukan Gendai.

    The other party said that when Kim Jong-un was visiting the countryside, he
    suddenly pressed his heart and fell. The fellow medical team hurried to resuscitate him while sending him to a nearby hospital. (2/10)
    — Black sWan Damme (@blackswandamme) April 25, 2020

    In China, a team of ~50 people was formed with doctors from the "National Cardiovascular Disease Center of the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences Fuwai Hospital" and the "People's Liberation Army 301 Hospital". They took the equipment & took a
    special flight to Pyongyang. (4/10)
    — Black sWan Damme (@blackswandamme) April 25, 2020

    So he performed an emergency "heart stent operation (heart catheterization operation)" for him. The doctor in charge is a North Korean surgeon who "trained in China for many years." (6/10)
    — Black sWan Damme (@blackswandamme) April 25, 2020

    Unexpectedly, the surgeon who operated the knife was so nervous that he couldn't help shaking his hands. In addition, he had no experience in operating
    for "a fat man like Kim Jong-un." It took 8 minutes to put the stent in. (8/10)
    — Black sWan Damme (@blackswandamme) April 25, 2020

    Daisuke Kondo frankly admitted that it is not yet possible to confirm whether the Chinese medical-related personnel's claims are true. But if it is true, the political life representing Kim Jong-un has come to an end. (10/10)
    — Black sWan Damme (@blackswandamme) April 25, 2020

    Kim has not been seen in public since he presided over a meeting on April 11 - notably missing a celebration on April 15 to mark the birthday of his grandfather, Kim Il Sung, a very important holiday.

    * * *

    Update: Following an earlier report that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un may have been evacuated from Pyongyang (as he was nowhere to be seen during the national holiday celebration of his grandfather's birthday on April 15) amid speculation about his
    failing health following a report from a Seoul-based website that Kim was recovering after undergoing a cardiovascular procedure on April 12, late on Friday Reuters reported that China has "dispatched a team to North Korea including medical experts to
    advise on North Korean leader Kim Jong Un."

    Citing "three people familiar with the situation", Reuters writes that a delegation led by a senior member of the Chinese Communist Party’s International Liaison Department - which is the main Chinese body dealing with North Korea - left Beijing for
    North Korea on Thursday.

    Meanwhile, both South Korean government officials and a Chinese official with the Liaison Department challenged subsequent reports suggesting that Kim was in
    grave danger after surgery, while South Korean officials said they had detected
    no signs of
    unusual activity in North Korea. On Thursday, President Donald Trump also downplayed earlier reports that Kim was gravely ill. “I think the report was incorrect,” Trump told reporters, but he declined to say if he had been in touch with North Korean
    officials.

    One day later, on Friday, a South Korean source told Reuters their intelligence
    was that Kim was alive and would likely make an appearance soon. The person said he did not have any comment on Kim’s current condition or any Chinese involvement. An
    official familiar with U.S. intelligence said that Kim was known to have health
    problems but they had no reason to conclude he was seriously ill or unable eventually to reappear in public.

    Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, when asked about Kim’s health on Fox News after Trump spoke said, “I don’t have anything I can share with you tonight, but the American people should know we’re watching the situation very keenly.”

    The last time North Korea’s state media reported on Kim’s whereabouts was when he presided over a meeting on April 11. However, as noted above, state media did not report that he was in attendance at an event to mark the birthday
    of his grandfather,
    Kim Il Sung, on April 15, an important anniversary in North Korea.

    Kim, believed to be 36, has disappeared from coverage in North Korean state media before. In 2014, he vanished for more than a month and North Korean state
    TV later showed him walking with a limp. Speculation about his health has been fanned by his heavy
    smoking, apparent weight gain since taking power and family history of cardiovascular problems.

    When Kim Jong Un’s father, Kim Jong Il, suffered a stroke in 2008, South Korean media reported at the time that Chinese doctors were involved in his treatment along with French physicians.



    Earlier:

    Kim Jong Un was last seen publicly on the weekend of April 11th, but after he was nowhere in sight during the national holiday celebration of his grandfather's birthday on April 15 — highly unusual for the important “Day of the Sun” commemorations,
    this triggered multiple unconfirmed reports that the North Korean leader was in
    critical condition after receiving heart surgery.

    First, it should be noted that the Western mainstream press often gets North Korea completely wrong — and in the case of the latest speculation a high degree of critical skepticism is warranted further given the initial source for
    the heart surgery
    claims was a US state-funded media outlet based in South Korea, the Daily NK website.
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    South Korean officials also downplayed the news, which had initially riled markets at the start of the week, suggesting he was “touring provincial areas”. President Trump also during the regular White House briefing Thursday
    evening called rumors of
    Kim’s ill health “fake news”.
    North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, via KCNA.

    While there's been lots of questions and speculation, it still remains no satisfactory answers have been given.

    Instead, more contradictory reports out of Seoul based on intelligence sources,
    which suggest he's been "evacuated" from Pyongyang to a coastal city. The new reports say he's on the move and out of the public eye primarily due to COVID-19 outbreaks among
    key sectors of the country, also which Pyongyang officials have sought to downplay.

    UPI outlines the latest reports as follows:

    Kim may have been evacuated to the coastal city of Wonsan, Kangwon Province, where he may have been providing field guidance at a resort construction site, South Korean news service Newsis reported Friday, citing Seoul's national intelligence sources.

    According to Newsis, movement has been observed among "dedicated vehicles" for Kim that suggest he may have been evacuated from Pyongyang. A special train
    for Kim's use was stationed in Wonsan, but Kim's private plane remained in Pyongyang, the
    report says.

    And further, "In the new location, Kim may be carrying out field guidance activities, at Tanchon Hydroelectric Power Plant, or visiting a North Korean artillery unit in Sondok, where short-range projectiles were fired in March," the report speculates
    based on official sources.

    Amid rumours about his health, the North Korean leader has not been seen for days. https://t.co/a05NZ90WVF
    — New Statesman (@NewStatesman) April 24, 2020

    If he does make an appearance anytime soon, it's likely to be related to North Korea's Military Foundation Day events on Saturday, though reports and official
    photographs could still take days to be released.

    Assuming he is rapidly moving to different locations of the country, it's unlikely his condition would be "gravely ill" as the initial dire headlines speculated. US intelligence is said to be monitoring the situation.

    Meanwhile, joint US-South Korea military drills have just wrapped up. The five-day long regularly scheduled air exercise came following the North launching at least five missile tests so far this year, and as Pyongyang's anger and frustration over
    stalled nuclear talks with Washington is increasingly on display.

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2020 07:47:13
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    great, let's celebrate.
    fuck that little puto.
    karma fucker, karma.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2020 15:58:53
    From: slider@anashram.com

    great, let's celebrate.
    fuck that little puto.
    karma fucker, karma.

    ### - pardon? (don't get it/doesn't make sense lol)

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2020 08:16:03
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    ### - pardon? (don't get it/doesn't make sense lol)

    he died , right? well at least we can pretend

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, April 25, 2020 16:19:34
    From: slider@anashram.com

    - pardon? (don't get it/doesn't make sense lol)

    he died , right? well at least we can pretend

    ### - who died??

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