• Brother Can You Spare A Ciggy (1/2)

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 23, 2020 05:17:30
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    "Brother Can You Spare A Dime?"
    Is a famous line from the 1930"s depression.

    Two worries for me was my cigarettes and my steroids.
    Seems they may have saved my life 2-3x times this winter.
    I chew 10-12 pieced of nicotine gum for 40-48 milligrams per day.
    I smoke 3-12 cigarettes per day depending on my allergies.


    Source: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8246939/French-researchers-plan-nicotine-patches-coronavirus-patients-frontline-workers.html

    Title:
    Was Hockney RIGHT? French researchers to give nicotine patches to coronavirus patients and frontline workers after lower rates of infection were found among smokers


    Summary Blurb:
    'PROTECTIVE EFFECT MAY COVER BOTH SEVERE AND NON-SEVERE PATIENTS'

    Research by the Hopitaux de Paris and Université Pierre et Marie Curie, in the
    French capital, has claimed a potential protective effect of smoking against COVID-19 could have benefits for people with mild or severe symptoms.

    While many studies have focused on patients in hospital or intensive care units, this research looked at outpatients, too.

    And they found that a disproportionately small number of those - patients who were not ill enough to need a hospital bed - were smokers. This was the same phenomenon observed among the more seriously ill inpatients.

    They found 5.3 per cent of 139 outpatients were smokers, compared to 4.4 per cent of 343 inpatients. In the French population, the smoke rate was 25 per cent.

    The researchers, led by Dr Makoto Miyara, wrote: 'The [smoking rates] did not differ between outpatients and inpatients, suggesting that the protective effect of smoking covered the whole population of symptomatic (both non-severe and severe) patients.'




    Article Main Body:

    A French study found that only 4.4% of 350 coronavirus patients hospitalized were regular smokers and 5.3% of 130 homebound patients smoked
    This pales in comparison with at least 25% of the French population that smokes

    Researchers theorized nicotine could prevent the virus from infecting cells or that nicotine was preventing the immune system from overreacting to the virus To test this theory, hospitalized coronavirus patients, intensive care patients
    and frontline workers nicotine patches

    French researchers are planning to trial whether nicotine patches will help prevent - or lessen the effects of - the deadly coronavirus.

    Evidence is beginning to show the proportion of smokers infected with coronavirus is much lower than the rates in the general population.

    Scientists are now questioning whether nicotine could stop the virus from infecting cells, or if it may prevent the immune system overreacting to the infection.

    Doctors at a major hospital in Paris - who also found low rates of smoking among the infected - are now planning to give nicotine patches to COVID-19 patients.

    They will also give them to frontline workers to see if the stimulant has any effect on preventing the spread of the virus, according to reports.

    It comes after world-famous artist David Hockney last week said he believes smoking could protect people against the deadly coronavirus.

    MailOnline looked at the science and found he may have been onto something, with one researcher saying there was 'bizarrely strong' evidence it could be true.

    One study in China, where the pandemic began, showed only 6.5 per cent of COVID-19 patients were smokers, compared to 26.6 per cent of the population.

    Another study, by the Centers for Disease Control in the US, found just 1.3 per
    cent of hospitalised patients were smokers - compared to 14 per cent of America.

    And research by hospitals in Paris found that smokers were under-represented in
    both inpatients and outpatients, suggesting that any protective effect could affect anyone, not just those at risk of becoming seriously ill.

    The French study, performed at Pitié Salpêtrière - part of the Hôpitaux de Paris, used data from 480 patients who tested positive for the virus.

    Three hundred and fifty were hospitalized and the remainder recovered at home.

    Results showed that of the patients hospitalized, with a median age of 65, only
    4.4 percent were regular smokers. But among those at home, with a median age of
    44, 5.3 percent smoked.

    By comparison, among the general population, 40 percent of those between ages 44 and 53 smoke, and around 11 percent of those aged 65 to 75 smoke.

    The researchers determined that far fewer smokers appear to have contracted the
    virus or, if they have, their symptoms are less serious.

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    Our cross-sectional study strongly suggests that those who smoke every day are much less likely to develop a symptomatic or severe infection with Sars-CoV-2 compared with the general population,' the study reads.

    'The effect is significant. It divides the risk by five for ambulatory patients
    and by four for those admitted to hospital. We rarely see this in medicine.'

    The team says it is not advocating that anyone start smoking because cigarettes
    have fatal health risks.

    However, French neurobiologist Jean-Pierre Changeux, who reviewed the study, told The Guardian that nicotine may be hindering the virus from entering the body's cells.

    In addition, the authors theorize nicotine could abate the immune system's overreaction to the virus, which leads to serious complications in some patients.

    The researchers will verify the study's results by giving nicotine patches to hospital patients, those in intensive care and frontline workers.

    This is not the first article to suggest that nicotine may ward off the coronavirus.

    A French study from the Université Pierre et Marie Curie found that just 8.5 percent of 11,000 hospitalized coronavirus patients were smokers compared to 25.4 percent of the country's population.

    And a study in the New England Journal of Medicine found that 12.6 percent of 1,100 Chinese patients were were current smokers and 1.9 percent were former smokers

    Does smoking PROTECT against coronavirus? That was the amazing claim from David
    Hockney but multiple scientific studies now suggest he might be on to something

    When world-famous artist David Hockney wrote a letter to the Daily Mail saying he believes smoking could protect people against the coronavirus many scoffed.

    Mr Hockney wrote: 'Could it not be that smokers have developed an immune system
    to this virus? With all these figures coming out, it’s beginning to look like
    that to me.'

    Understandably the claim was brushed off as laughable and 'rubbish' by many.

    But is it?

    A leading infectious disease expert at University College London, Professor Francois Balloux, said there is 'bizarrely strong' evidence it could be true.

    And data from multiple Chinese studies shows that COVID-19 hospital patients contained a smaller proportion of smokers than the general population (6.5 per cent compared to 26.6 per cent), suggesting they were less likely to end up in hospital.

    Another study, by America's Centers for Disease Control of over 7,000 people who tested positive for coronavirus, found that just 1.3 per cent of them were smokers - against the 14 per cent of all Americans that the CDC says smoke.

    The study also found that the smokers stood no greater chance of ending up in hospital or an ICU.

    The reasons for this are unclear.

    Evidence coming out of scientific studies is conflicting and some say doctors are just too busy to be accurately noting down everyone's smoking habits.

    Some researchers suggest smoking could reverse one of the ways in which COVID-19 damages the lungs while others argue the lung damage caused by smoke makes the organs more susceptible to failure.

    Governments in both the UK and US urge people to stop smoking to protect themselves from the virus, but scientists admit there is no clear proof cigarettes can worsen the disease.

    n his letter, Mr Hockney wrote: 'I used to joke that being a smoker in Malibu was the equivalent of being a non-smoker in Pasadena. They used to have very bad pollution there.

    'Could it not be that smokers have developed an immune system to this virus? With all these figures coming out, it’s beginning to look like that to me.'

    The British artist, now 82 and living in France, adds 'I'm serious' and has in the past revealed he's smoked for more than 60 years but still considers himself healthy.

    Around 1.1billion people around the world smoke cigarettes in spite of evidence
    they cause lung cancer, heart disease and numerous other life-threatening illnesses.

    Whether they make people more likely to end up in hospital or die if they catch
    COVID-19, however, is unclear.

    A study published earlier this month by scientists in New York and Athens claims the opposite.

    It looked at 13 Chinese studies that had registered smoking as a precondition and found that the number of smokers across the whole sample of 5,300 patients was 6.5 per cent. An astonishingly small number in country where half of all men still smoke.

    'This preliminary analysis does not support the argument that current smoking is a risk factor for hospitalization for COVID-19,' it reads.

    'Instead, these consistent observations, which are further emphasized by the low prevalence of current smoking among COVID-19 patients in the US (1.3 per cent), raises the hypothesis that nicotine may have beneficial effects on COVID-19.'

    The paper has not been reviewed by other scientists and admits that it is based
    on limited data, but says that nicotine and the coronavirus both interact with the same receptors on cells inside the lungs.

    It was done by Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos and Dr Anastasia Barbouni, from the University of West Attica in Athens, and Dr Raymond Niaura of New York University.

    They suggest that while the virus causes lung damage by depleting the numbers of those receptors - known as ACE-2 receptors - smoking can increase the number
    of them, reversing the effect.

    ACE-2 receptors, which are found on cells in the airways and lungs, have been said to work as the coronavirus's doorway into the body and to 'facilitate' infection.

    Therefore having more of them would seem to be a bad thing, but scientists say they have a protective effect in the lungs and low levels are linked to worse damage from viral infection.

    A 2008 study in mice found that getting rid of ACE-2 made the animals more likely to suffer severe breathing difficulties when infected with the SARS virus, which is almost identical to COVID-19. ACE-2's function in human lungs is poorly understood.

    Dr Farsalinos's study was shared on Twitter by Professor Francois Balloux, director of the genetics institute at University College London.

    Professor Balloux described the paper as 'puzzling' and added: 'Whilst the study design is far from perfect - and the authors are clear about its limitations - the evidence for a protective effect of smoking (or nicotine) against COVID-19 is bizarrely
    strong... actually far stronger than for any drug trialled at this stage...'

    It is a claim that has been emerging around the world.

    French scientist Professor Jean-François Delfraissy, who is leading a scientific council advising the country's government on COVID-19, said: 'We have something very special with tobacco.

    'We have found that the vast majority of serious cases are not smokers, as if (…) tobacco protects against this virus, via nicotine,' French news site Sud Ouest reported.

    The study by Dr Farsalinos adds by way of explanation: 'It has been observed that decreased ACE-2 availability contributes to lung injury and acute respiratory distress syndrome development.

    'Therefore, higher ACE-2 expression, while seemingly paradoxical, may protect against acute lung injury caused by COVID-19.'

    This is a disputed area of science - there are studies which show smoking can both increase and decrease the levels of ACE-2 available on someone's lung cells.

    An increase before infection could allow more of the viruses to get into the body in the first place, making someone more vulnerable to the disease.

    A paper published by scientists at University College London offers the opposite view to Dr Farsalinos.

    It said: 'SARS-CoV-2 has been shown to enter cells through the ACE-2 receptor​.

    'Some evidence suggests that gene expression and subsequent receptor levels are
    elevated in the airway and oral [cells] of current smokers​, thus putting smokers at higher risk of contracting SARS-CoV-2.

    'Other studies, however, show that nicotine downregulates the ACE-2 receptor.'

    Professor Jamie Brown, an addiction researcher at UCL and one of the authors who wrote that paper, told MailOnline the link is 'very difficult to understand'.

    'Everything we know about other respiratory viruses and comorbidities [health problems] suggests smokers will suffer worse outcomes,' he said.

    Only recently - a paper published this year claimed to be the first - have scientists started to record that smoking increases ACE-2 levels in the airways.

    It had previously been reported to reduce levels, something that researchers have linked to worse lung damage in coronavirus infections.

    While higher levels of the receptor may offer some protection in theory, they also offer more doorways through which the virus can enter the body.

    The study in the European Respiratory Journal said: 'While the up-regulation of
    ACE-2 may be useful in protecting the host against acute lung injury, chronically, this may predispose individuals to increased risk of coronavirus infections, which uses
    this receptor to gain entrance into epithelial cells.'

    Professor Brown added that, considering how smoking influences other lung infections, he would be 'very surprised' if it didn't make COVID-19 worse.

    One paper suggested that a reason children appear not to be badly affected, in general, by the coronavirus could be that they have more ACE-2 receptors than adults, but it added there is 'a lack of evidence to show that ACE-2 expression
    varies with age'.

    Dr Farsalinos and his colleagues' study even suggested that withdrawal symptoms
    from not being able to smoke in hospital could make cigarette users' symptoms worse.

    It added: 'Hospitalization for COVID-19 will inevitably result in abrupt withdrawal of nicotine and its beneficial effect linked to this hypothesis in smokers or users of other nicotine products.

    'This could, at least partly, explain the association between smoking and COVID-19 severity among hospitalized patients.'

    The theory of smokers having some level of protection from the virus stems from
    raw hospital data which suggested only small proportions of seriously-ill patients smoke.


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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 23, 2020 07:36:57
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    i had this dream last night where i was
    telling someone that we only pass this way once

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dw8R6kIKyw

    old Seals & Crofts tune, i had forgot about this song.
    from 1973

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, April 23, 2020 15:59:28
    From: slider@atashram.com

    i had this dream last night where i was
    telling someone that we only pass this way once

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dw8R6kIKyw

    old Seals & Crofts tune, i had forgot about this song.
    from 1973

    ### - nice old tune, i guess we're not such nincompoops in our dreams then heh...

    we just 'know' things in dreaming, whereas in waking we always have to
    figure shit out and usually gets it all wrong haha (the crap some peeps
    talk about is just unbelievable? lol)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n03g8nsaBro

    "Talking is cheap, people follow like sheep..."

    ;)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 24, 2020 00:17:30
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    "We start out walking..."
    https://youtu.be/5kPD4LtA1vo

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