On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 21:42:43 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 3:36:39 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 19:03:58 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:18:37 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:alone
don't be a dildo slider.
do you want to smell the
death certificate or what.
no one gets burn without the
death certificate. there are
rules Walter. (from the Big Lebowsky)
### - rules for people 'actually' being cremated, yes!
but there's nothing there that proves there was even a body, let
more ian
actual cremation??
lawyer says one place, that turned out to be another place? (that's
weird...)
i dunno, this all started out as a bit of a wind-up/joke, but the
get.think about it now?
Exactly. The more you 'think' about something, the stupider things
That's a general rule about you, and it almost always applies. :)
### - yeah well, when ya DON'T think, you might just end up in the
fucking
church of scientology, right? riiiiight... :)
so s'cuse me if i carry on 'thinking for myself' - okaaaay? :)))
official
so who was the doc that 'signed' the cert? where & when was an
diagnosis for liver cancer ever made and by whom?? who says so other
than
the lawyer??
Another perfect example of how you find some idiotic contrarian
position and then become as big an asshole as possible about it -
trolling the shit out of everyone.
That is sooooo YOU. Don't you ever wonder why you're like that?
### - heh don't you EVER wonder HOW you ended up in MORE than ONE
fucking
religious CULT???
MORE THAN ONE!!! lol MORE than ONE?!?!
because you're a CUNT who DOESN'T think for himself! that's WHY!
baaaa baaaa baaaaa! 2 legs bad 4 legs good! bah! bah! :)
You don't even try to find out the facts - nor ever realize how
15 other assholes before you already went down the bogus road.
http://sustainedaction.org/Images_Documents/Castaneda_death_cert.htm
It is signed by a doctor - who could get in a lot of trouble for
lying on a death certificate.
### - woooo a LOT of trouble huh? (literally PISSING myself laffing!)
well
then i guess THAT'S why there's never EVER been a FAKE death certificate >> in the whole of fucking history then innit!
cc was worth MILLIONS! - ample funds to purchase/arrange just about
ANYTHING!
did anyone investigate the signatories on that 'very poor quality' DC??
(it's almost impossible to read!) who were they! did anyone even check
it
out?? nope! :)
They also found "alternative cures" for liver disease in the trash.
### - that's not definitive proof per se! did it even have his name on
it??
bet it didn't! plus you can buy that shit over the counter!
and in mexico you can buy virtually ANYTHING!
Carlos also VISIBLY had symptoms of advanced liver disease on video.
Ah, but he could have "faked that" somehow since he "knew" he was
being filmed, right?
### - that's right! the 'great detective' greg... got himself caught in
the act!
so maybe they took that as an omen to fuck off?
after all, it was handed to 'em on a fucking plate! :)
You wouldn't be the first clueless a-hole to:)
suggest that. Hell, just a few years ago even Cleargreen finally
admitted Carlos died (Reni did). But NOW you want to pull this shit?
### - but they denied it first right? no proof see? and then they
finally
caved to documented shit just like everyone else! that doesn't PROVE
anything! so they were mugs like you! big deal!
One other piece of evidence I came across was in a Mexican interview
with "Dona Soledad" - who claimed Carlos TOLD her he had messed up
and was going to have kick the bucket.
### - so she actually existed then did she? i thought the WHOLE THING
was
a crock??
well you couldn't trust her! (or any of THEM!) - besides, cc himself
intimated that he might die IF he fucked up! is THAT proof he actually
died too?? far from it! that's bs! sheer hearsay from her AND you!
Is any of that absolute proof? Well no, since there's no such thing.
Can you prove your own grandfather is really dead? Nope. Do I know
positively that my own father really died. No. I wasn't there.
### - i SAW my step-father's dead body personally! i held my mother's
hand
AS she died! my grandparents were both irish and the irish make a big
deal
of peeps dying - big party where EVERYONE sees the body! (probably just
to
make SURE they're feckin' dead hahaha!)
who SAW cc's body?? anyone independent/outside of his inner circle? WHO
were the doctors involved! did anyone interview THEM?? let's SEE some
ACTUAL medical records of his diagnosis and treatment! why weren't they
tracked down/hacked and scrutinised??
sloppy! very sloppy! incredibly so!
syringes for diabetes is nada!
Before that ever happened, Castaneda had already stated to the
entire Sunday class that he had diabetes. He also mentioned it
in weird ways in certain interviews, once even trying to blame the
'inorganic beings' for causing his health disruptions with sugar.
### - yeah... maybe... but then he didn't fuckin' DIE from diabetes did
he!?!?
where's his genuine medical records even for THAT??
and YOU take the word of a known bullshitter as PROOF???
oh but MAYBE he WASN'T lying about THAT bit?!?
riiiight...
(am still waiting for 'something' jeremy... ANYTHING! nada so far!)
You don't even pay attention. You just go blah blah blah blah
and troll people. Not just on this issue, either. On ANY issue. :)
### - so i guess THAT'S absolute PROOF of HIS death too is it???
fuck off! you can't turn this back onto me!
prevaricate now and you're done for! :)))
on
plus greg could have been deliberately
'fed' ALL that 'convenient' crap once they realised he'd been spying
them/going through their trash?? (can't have been 'much' of a
'detective'
if he got caught by them??)
there's only rather vague 'circumstantial' evidence!
what people... said/assumed??
'wanted to believe'?
fuck me! :D
Consider yourself fucked.
If you 'want to believe' Carlos is 92 years old walking around
laughing and being all 'sorceric', feel free. That wouldn't be
any stupider than half the garbage you believe. :D
### - well, he might well be gone by 'now' LOL, or maybe not!
YOU don't have any fucking CLUE either way besides what you've...
heard/read?!?!
nada except what you WANT to BELIEVE?!?!
actually, just the fact that YOU believe it puts me right off!
you've NEVER been right yet!
and from your so-called 'evidence' i think i can see why!?! LOL!
'other' peeps 'also' considered/thought this 'might' be the case and
nothing more 'definitive' was ever dragged out?? actual medical records
confirming illness etc etc? why NOT!
why, for instance, wasn't an expensive private investigator put on the
job??
very sloppy! completely careless!
FAR from impeccable behaviour! (duh!)
in which case YEAH! he COULD well be still walking around someplace for
all YOU actually know! even at 92!
mission accomplished! removed from being 'accountable' to the public
eye!
(he made quite a big thing about all that! even told stories of people
'disappearing' and how difficult if sometimes was to arrange -
especially
for men?)
as for me trolling (really fuckin' laffing!) YOU were the one trolling
US
with crap in 'several parts' that no one's even interested in anymore -
except YOU?? - remember?
i just got tired of all your BS! is all!
and damn, lookee what came out! :))))
LOL how IRONIC if true? and YOU can't say for sure that it ISN'T true!
a 'terminal believer' huh?
what an arsehole! :))))
Even when totally wrong about something, this is how you respond.
You've been shown half-a-dozen pieces of strong evidence CC is dead.
On your side, you've provided zero evidence he's still alive.
And yet you'll still argue about it, abusively, 'to the death'.
That's literally: the definition of who Slider is as a man.
### - (smile...) you should try and see it from my pov occasionally? (something other than just your OWN all the time, i mean...) and you might realise that ALL i've ever HAD over here across the pond all along re cc
is, for example, hearsay?? other people's WORD for everything!
no
first-hand 'proof' of 'anything' per se! - besides which, the only 'hard' (i.e., convincing) evidence there IS that DC!
'everything' else IS merely circumstantial and 'could' have just as easily been planted/engineered by an already well known professional trickster!
iow: everything else you've listed could just as easily be construed as a deliberate con-job to misdirect 'just as much' as being evidence for someone's demise!?! (a false paper trail kinda thing...)
e.g., he also told stories about his 'own' mentor deliberately looking old and sick?
so maybe the apple didn't fall too far from the tree!?! (really laffing!)
fortunately, for you, dr duenas does indeed appear to be genuine?
https://www.itriagehealth.com/doctor/angelica-duenas-410420/background
but then who's to say he didn't somehow just con her too?
it gets very difficult at 'that' point admittedly, but it's not totally impossible!
doctors have been conned before? or, like some episode from columbo; was maybe even complicit!
i'd need to see/examine records (both medical & financial) going right
back to confirm/deny all that?
how long was she his doctor? did he have 'other' doctors? - records please!
more shocking to me perhaps, is that dona soledad AND la gorda were 'real' people???
so maybe the others (of that team) were too? it certainly increases that likelihood!
and if THAT'S true, then what else was also maybe true! :)
lol you being pissed as all-get-out is no proof of 'anything' except your 'own' madness!
:D
On Monday, September 4, 2017 at 2:27:32 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:
On Mon, 04 Sep 2017 21:42:43 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
On Sunday, September 3, 2017 at 3:36:39 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:
On Sun, 03 Sep 2017 19:03:58 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
On Saturday, September 2, 2017 at 2:18:37 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:alone
don't be a dildo slider.
do you want to smell the
death certificate or what.
no one gets burn without the
death certificate. there are
rules Walter. (from the Big Lebowsky)
### - rules for people 'actually' being cremated, yes!
but there's nothing there that proves there was even a body, let
more ian
actual cremation??
lawyer says one place, that turned out to be another place? (that's
weird...)
i dunno, this all started out as a bit of a wind-up/joke, but the
get.think about it now?
Exactly. The more you 'think' about something, the stupider things
That's a general rule about you, and it almost always applies. :)
### - yeah well, when ya DON'T think, you might just end up in the
fucking
church of scientology, right? riiiiight... :)
so s'cuse me if i carry on 'thinking for myself' - okaaaay? :)))
official
so who was the doc that 'signed' the cert? where & when was an
diagnosis for liver cancer ever made and by whom?? who says so other >> >> >> than
the lawyer??
Another perfect example of how you find some idiotic contrarian
position and then become as big an asshole as possible about it -
trolling the shit out of everyone.
That is sooooo YOU. Don't you ever wonder why you're like that?
### - heh don't you EVER wonder HOW you ended up in MORE than ONE
fucking
religious CULT???
MORE THAN ONE!!! lol MORE than ONE?!?!
because you're a CUNT who DOESN'T think for himself! that's WHY!
baaaa baaaa baaaaa! 2 legs bad 4 legs good! bah! bah! :)
You don't even try to find out the facts - nor ever realize how
15 other assholes before you already went down the bogus road.
http://sustainedaction.org/Images_Documents/Castaneda_death_cert.htm
It is signed by a doctor - who could get in a lot of trouble for
lying on a death certificate.
### - woooo a LOT of trouble huh? (literally PISSING myself laffing!)
well
then i guess THAT'S why there's never EVER been a FAKE death certificate >> >> in the whole of fucking history then innit!
cc was worth MILLIONS! - ample funds to purchase/arrange just about
ANYTHING!
did anyone investigate the signatories on that 'very poor quality' DC?? >> >> (it's almost impossible to read!) who were they! did anyone even check
it
out?? nope! :)
They also found "alternative cures" for liver disease in the trash.
### - that's not definitive proof per se! did it even have his name on
it??
bet it didn't! plus you can buy that shit over the counter!
and in mexico you can buy virtually ANYTHING!
Carlos also VISIBLY had symptoms of advanced liver disease on video.
Ah, but he could have "faked that" somehow since he "knew" he was
being filmed, right?
### - that's right! the 'great detective' greg... got himself caught in >> >> the act!
so maybe they took that as an omen to fuck off?
after all, it was handed to 'em on a fucking plate! :)
You wouldn't be the first clueless a-hole to:)
suggest that. Hell, just a few years ago even Cleargreen finally
admitted Carlos died (Reni did). But NOW you want to pull this shit?
### - but they denied it first right? no proof see? and then they
finally
caved to documented shit just like everyone else! that doesn't PROVE
anything! so they were mugs like you! big deal!
One other piece of evidence I came across was in a Mexican interview
with "Dona Soledad" - who claimed Carlos TOLD her he had messed up
and was going to have kick the bucket.
### - so she actually existed then did she? i thought the WHOLE THING
was
a crock??
well you couldn't trust her! (or any of THEM!) - besides, cc himself
intimated that he might die IF he fucked up! is THAT proof he actually
died too?? far from it! that's bs! sheer hearsay from her AND you!
Is any of that absolute proof? Well no, since there's no such thing.
Can you prove your own grandfather is really dead? Nope. Do I know
positively that my own father really died. No. I wasn't there.
### - i SAW my step-father's dead body personally! i held my mother's
hand
AS she died! my grandparents were both irish and the irish make a big
deal
of peeps dying - big party where EVERYONE sees the body! (probably just >> >> to
make SURE they're feckin' dead hahaha!)
who SAW cc's body?? anyone independent/outside of his inner circle? WHO >> >> were the doctors involved! did anyone interview THEM?? let's SEE some
ACTUAL medical records of his diagnosis and treatment! why weren't they >> >> tracked down/hacked and scrutinised??
sloppy! very sloppy! incredibly so!
syringes for diabetes is nada!
Before that ever happened, Castaneda had already stated to the
entire Sunday class that he had diabetes. He also mentioned it
in weird ways in certain interviews, once even trying to blame the
'inorganic beings' for causing his health disruptions with sugar.
### - yeah... maybe... but then he didn't fuckin' DIE from diabetes did >> >> he!?!?
where's his genuine medical records even for THAT??
and YOU take the word of a known bullshitter as PROOF???
oh but MAYBE he WASN'T lying about THAT bit?!?
riiiight...
(am still waiting for 'something' jeremy... ANYTHING! nada so far!)
You don't even pay attention. You just go blah blah blah blah
and troll people. Not just on this issue, either. On ANY issue. :)
### - so i guess THAT'S absolute PROOF of HIS death too is it???
fuck off! you can't turn this back onto me!
prevaricate now and you're done for! :)))
plus greg could have been deliberately
'fed' ALL that 'convenient' crap once they realised he'd been spying >> >> on
them/going through their trash?? (can't have been 'much' of a
'detective'
if he got caught by them??)
there's only rather vague 'circumstantial' evidence!
what people... said/assumed??
'wanted to believe'?
fuck me! :D
Consider yourself fucked.
If you 'want to believe' Carlos is 92 years old walking around
laughing and being all 'sorceric', feel free. That wouldn't be
any stupider than half the garbage you believe. :D
### - well, he might well be gone by 'now' LOL, or maybe not!
YOU don't have any fucking CLUE either way besides what you've...
heard/read?!?!
nada except what you WANT to BELIEVE?!?!
actually, just the fact that YOU believe it puts me right off!
you've NEVER been right yet!
and from your so-called 'evidence' i think i can see why!?! LOL!
'other' peeps 'also' considered/thought this 'might' be the case and
nothing more 'definitive' was ever dragged out?? actual medical records >> >> confirming illness etc etc? why NOT!
why, for instance, wasn't an expensive private investigator put on the
job??
very sloppy! completely careless!
FAR from impeccable behaviour! (duh!)
in which case YEAH! he COULD well be still walking around someplace for >> >> all YOU actually know! even at 92!
mission accomplished! removed from being 'accountable' to the public
eye!
(he made quite a big thing about all that! even told stories of people
'disappearing' and how difficult if sometimes was to arrange -
especially
for men?)
as for me trolling (really fuckin' laffing!) YOU were the one trolling
US
with crap in 'several parts' that no one's even interested in anymore - >> >> except YOU?? - remember?
i just got tired of all your BS! is all!
and damn, lookee what came out! :))))
LOL how IRONIC if true? and YOU can't say for sure that it ISN'T true!
a 'terminal believer' huh?
what an arsehole! :))))
Even when totally wrong about something, this is how you respond.
You've been shown half-a-dozen pieces of strong evidence CC is dead.
On your side, you've provided zero evidence he's still alive.
And yet you'll still argue about it, abusively, 'to the death'.
That's literally: the definition of who Slider is as a man.
### - (smile...) you should try and see it from my pov occasionally?
(something other than just your OWN all the time, i mean...) and you might >> realise that ALL i've ever HAD over here across the pond all along re cc
is, for example, hearsay?? other people's WORD for everything!
Regarding most of the people who have ever lived, that's all you have.
no
first-hand 'proof' of 'anything' per se! - besides which, the only 'hard'
(i.e., convincing) evidence there IS that DC!
You've had access to most of the same sources we did - such as
Amy's book, Greg and Gabi's book, the YouTube where Renata admits
Carlos died, and the Death Cert. You could have seen all those too,
if you had looked. No, you didn't personally know all these people
as I did, but you had most of the same information sources available.
Dr. Duenas' name is right there on the damn cert, which has
been posted for 20 years.
True, you didn't see Carlos being helped out of a car into his house, >terribly jaundiced and so ill he could barely walk without help.
But you COULD see that, if you wanted badly enough to go to Greg's
house in Topanga and watch it.
'everything' else IS merely circumstantial and 'could' have just as easily >> been planted/engineered by an already well known professional trickster!
iow: everything else you've listed could just as easily be construed as a
deliberate con-job to misdirect 'just as much' as being evidence for
someone's demise!?! (a false paper trail kinda thing...)
e.g., he also told stories about his 'own' mentor deliberately looking old >> and sick?
so maybe the apple didn't fall too far from the tree!?! (really laffing!)
Look, I already suggested that you should feel free to believe in
any idiotic conspiracy theory you want. That's what you usually do,
so... why not? :)
fortunately, for you, dr duenas does indeed appear to be genuine?
https://www.itriagehealth.com/doctor/angelica-duenas-410420/background
but then who's to say he didn't somehow just con her too?
See, once again, you don't know the facts. By his own accounts
Carlos did try to "con" Dr. Duenas on a few occasions. She was
one of CC's doctors for a few years, and was one of the doctors
treating him for several months before he died. Carlos told us
tales about his interactions with her, which naturally were
somewhat strange, given the kind of man he was. He was even more
fucked up and crazy than you are. :)
it gets very difficult at 'that' point admittedly, but it's not totally
impossible!
doctors have been conned before? or, like some episode from columbo; was
maybe even complicit!
i'd need to see/examine records (both medical & financial) going right
back to confirm/deny all that?
how long was she his doctor? did he have 'other' doctors? - records please! >>
more shocking to me perhaps, is that dona soledad AND la gorda were 'real' >> people???
I know of no evidence La Gorda was real, and a bit of evidence
that she probably wasn't, except as maybe a "composite person",
such as being part Beverly Evans and part Gloria Garvin and ?.
But yes, there was real person who knew Carlos and was written into
the stories as "dona Soledad". You would know that too if you ever
paid attention, just as you would already have seen the Death Cert
and would have known about Dr. Duenas too, if you paid attention.
You *don't* pay attention to the real evidence. Instead you latch
onto some bullshit idea and then wank with it forever, mainly just
to piss people off and make yourself seem wise (which makes you
seem anything but).
You've been doing that for 20 years. You're doing it again here.
so maybe the others (of that team) were too? it certainly increases that
likelihood!
and if THAT'S true, then what else was also maybe true! :)
lol you being pissed as all-get-out is no proof of 'anything' except your
'own' madness!
:D
It appears there was also a person named Nestor. Nestor also had
an extensive presence on Facebook, and only died a few years ago.
Nestor was really into jazz, by the way. :)
But of course none of these people "flew away" with "don Juan".
Soledad's still on Facebook. I have a bunch of her photos. :)
(Since I found her, she has tightened her security, and you can
no longer see all the stuff I got about her. But I copied quite
a bit of it. Do you want to see my photo collection on Soledad? :) )
As I've been telling people for years (including you if you actually
ever listened), Carlos made up wild stories about everyone around him
all the time, on the fly. He even used tiny bits of MY life in
his storytelling and mythologizing. Over decades he created his
'mythology' using bits and pieces of the real people around him,
making up fantastic tales about some things that really happened.
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