• deaths considerably higher than reported as Government accused of 'airb

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:02:32
    From: slider@atashram.com

    The total number of deaths from coronavirus in 15 per cent higher than previously reported, according to latest figures from the Office of
    National Statistics.

    The fresh statistics from the Office of National Statistics give a more comprehensive picture of the pandemic's death toll in communities as well
    as hospitals.

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/uk-coronavirus-live-lockdown-updates-covid-19-a4413526.html

    It comes as the Government has been accused of under-reporting care home
    deaths linked to coronavirus as fatalities continue to rise.

    Meanwhile, the UK continues its lockdown, which had originally been set at three weeks and is expected to go on for at least three more, with the Government insisting: "Our plan is working."

    Shadow social care minister Liz Kendall said:

    The increase in Covid-19 deaths in care homes is extremely worrying, but
    the true picture will sadly be even worse because these figures are only
    up to the week ending April 3.

    We urgently need these figures on a daily basis to help deal with the
    emerging crisis in social care and ensure everything possible is being
    done to protect more than 400,000 elderly and disabled people who live in nursing and residential care homes.

    The Government has rightly said the NHS will get whatever resources it
    needs to deal with the Covid-19 pandemic.

    This must also apply to social care, which needs a much greater priority
    and focus than it has had so far.

    It is vital that at today’s press conference, ministers set out precisely
    how they are keeping care home residents safe and when care staff will get
    the PPE and testing they desperately need.

    Nick Stripe, head of health analysis and life events at the ONS said:

    The latest comparable data for deaths involving COVID-19 with a date of
    death up to 3 April, show there were 6,235 deaths in England and Wales.
    When looking at data for England, this is 15% higher than the NHS numbers
    as they include all mentions of COVID-19 on the death certificate,
    including suspected COVID-19, as well as deaths in the community.

    Baroness Ros Altmann, Conservative peer and former work and pensions
    minister, has said she is “really concerned” about what is happening in
    the care sector.

    She told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme:

    We seem to have this artificial distinction between the NHS and what is
    called social care or elderly care in particular, and that is being
    overlooked, it seems to me.

    You know the Government has real problems and of course it has got
    difficult decisions to make, but we must not forget that the mark of a civilised society must reflect how it treats its most vulnerable and
    oldest citizens.

    ### - only 15%?? - and the rest!

    i.e., the 'way' they're dishing out these daily numbers being highly
    suspect because it allows them to present the figures any way they like in order to reflect 'anything' they like, and no one can say any damn
    different! mainly because NONE of the deaths mentioned today actually
    occurred in the last 24 hours or even anywhere near that!

    they're literally making it up as they go along and then demonstrating via those same figures that things are going either one way or another daily,
    NONE of it verifiable??

    and with absolutely NONE of it at all accurately reflecting the situation
    as it develops on a daily basis!

    it's ridiculous! not to mention deliberately misleading?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:21:29
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - this is all happening/developing today if ya understand...


    update:
    About 1,000” care home residents have died so far during the coronavirus outbreak, Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey has said.

    Asked on ITV’s Good Morning Britain if she knew how many NHS and care home workers had died due to coronavirus, Ms Coffey said: “I don’t know the answer to that.”

    Questioned on care home deaths, she said:

    Well, my understanding is that the latest figures will be issued today, I don’t see the point of me doing something that is over a week old and that information will be out later today.

    ***

    ### - only 1000 in all the nursing/private care homes and hospices
    nationwide?? i don't think so! or only to april 3rd or something!

    added to which are all those dying at home too? (no one's even mentioning
    that lot at all!)

    the only people being tested/confirmed being those actually in hospital!

    so could prolly easily add another 50% to the official figures, plus all
    likely then occurring a lot earlier than publicised too! (they made a big
    deal here over our passing 10,000 deaths etc? but which likely 'actually' happened a week if not more before!)

    we're being blatantly mislead!

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:36:52
    From: slider@atashram.com

    damning update heh...

    About half of all deaths from coronavirus are happening in care homes, according to data from five European countries collated in a new study.

    Research from official sources by a London School of Economics-based team
    found 42-57 per cent of all deaths linked to Covid-19 were among care home residents.

    The nations studied by the International Long Term Care Policy Network
    (LTCPN) included Italy, Spain, Ireland, Belgium and France.

    It comes after industry bosses in the UK said daily death tolls are "airbrushing out" hundreds of older people who have died in the care
    system.

    Care England has estimated there have been nearly 1,000 deaths from
    coronavirus in care homes.

    Separately, Baroness Altmann wrote in the Daily Mail that aged care
    residents who are refused hospital treatment are "being abandoned like
    lambs to the slaughter".

    The LTCPN report suggested that the clearest snapshot of coronavirus
    mortality in care homes came from Ireland, as there was a centralised
    system to collect information relating to Covid-19.

    As of Saturday, there had been 6,444 cases of Covid-19 and 288 deaths, of
    which 156, or 54 per cent, were care home residents.

    ### - that ya go peeps, the real (or real-er) figures with anything up to 'half' of all deaths likely occurring in care homes etc - numbers that
    haven't even been included here yet in the stats!?

    which then puts us around the 16,000 mark, officially, and that 'still'
    doesn't include deaths from people dying at home! or in mental hospitals
    and many-many other establishments!

    and yet somehow they've got the 'curve' - flattening???

    what utter bollocks!

    i mean, what GOOD is data if they FUCK with it to MAKE it say what they
    want!!!

    lol it's worthless! :)))

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  • From luckyrat@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 05:04:19
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    remember now grasshopper it's always a
    choice whether to believe or not believe
    data. show me the truth fuckers.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 13:18:16
    From: slider@atashram.com

    remember now grasshopper it's always a
    choice whether to believe or not believe
    data. show me the truth fuckers.

    ### - well that's my point really all along heh: have 'never' believed it
    hah! :)))

    i.e., show me the DATA for anything important! and will show ya a bunch of
    out & out lies! every time!

    that 'whatever' the data's about; it's more likely to be incorrect than correct!

    so much so, that if they were to tell ya to say go north in order to find something, you're actually more likely to find what you're looking by
    heading in the complete opposite direction than the one given: south!

    especially when they back it up with 'stats' lol...

    oh lordy haha :)))

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