hey maybe 'god' will intervene eh?
you know he/she always does, in some
form or another.
When Donald Trump wasn’t complaining about black athletes and Republican >senators opposed to their party’s far-right health care plan, the
president was threatening war with North Korea. He said via Twitter >yesterday:
“Just heard Foreign Minister of North Korea speak at U.N. If he echoes >thoughts of Little Rocket Man, they won’t be around much longer!”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-warns-north-korea-may-not-be-around-much-longer
It’s the kind of presidential statement that deserves some clarity – >because it sounds as if Trump is prepared to destroy North Korea if he >doesn’t like the rhetoric from its leaders.
Mother Jones’ Kevin Drum noted in response, “My guess is that Trump is >trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing something provocative enough to
justify a U.S. attack…. Alternatively, of course, Trump tweeted this >because he’s a childish buffoon who has no self-control and engages in >schoolyard taunts with anyone he doesn’t like.”
That those appear to be the two most plausible explanations is unsettling.
And yet, here we are. Trump’s tweet suggesting North Koreans may not be >“around much longer” comes on the heels of the American president publicly >calling Kim Jong-un a “madman” who is “killing his people,” and who’ll be
“tested like never before.”
That was soon followed by the president delivering a speech in Alabama in >which he sounded indifferent about a diplomatic solution. “Maybe something >gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t,” Trump said. “Personally, I’m not
sure that it will. Other people like to say, ‘Oh, we want peace.’ You >know, they’ve been saying now for 25 years, ‘Oh, we want peace, we want >peace.’ And then he goes and just keeps going, going, going. Well, maybe >something gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t.”
Days earlier, Trump delivered remarks to the United Nations’ General >Assembly, and publicly declared, “The United States has great strength and >patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will have
no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket Man is on a suicide >mission for himself and for his regime. The United States is ready,
willing and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary.”
What’s more, it was just last month that Trump threw around rhetoric such >as “fire and fury” and “locked and loaded,” intensifying tensions for no
particular reason. The crisis cooled only when the American president got >distracted by something new.
But now that Trump has a new nickname for Kim Jong-un, the White House is >back to taunting and antagonizing a rogue nuclear regime. A New York Times >report this morning said that among diplomats and national security >specialists, the American president’s posturing has sparked a range of >reactions ranging from “nervous disbelief to sheer terror.”
No good can come of this.
### - quote:
“My guess is that Trump is trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing something >provocative enough to justify a U.S. attack…"
which sounds about right really... goad, insult, belittle, buzz their >airspace like never before, provoke him like anything, and maybe he'll get >jumpy enough and lose his rag, overreact slightly or overtly; the ONLY
thing they haven't done yet is to actually down one of his test missiles??
which MIGHT just be enough to actually get something outta him?
and that's the EASY course!
everything else is/would-be preemptive, perforce which risks china
carrying out their threat to 'defend' ding-dong if he's attacked first?
he doesn't 'appear' to be that gullible/foolish though, in which case he
can only then ratchet-up the stakes even higher with even more dastardly >provocations to elicit a first strike upon him! (e.g., has mentioned >letting-off an h-bomb OVER the pacific?! damn!)
just can't see them 'allowing' dong-dong to 'push' his way (especially in >this manner) into the global nuclear-club??
nah... one way or another he's already gone far too far?
he's gonna get it!
so not 'if' but when?
(i think they're already determined to bar him (from that club) come what >may, ya can't directly overtly threaten america like that and nothing >happens?? duh! they'll find a way to fuck him up! black-ops or whatever!
or, maybe one of his 'own' small nukes will seemingly 'accidentally'
explode above ground and then that will be that! who knows! but something! >the decision has probably already been made! send in james bond and then
they can just blame it all on him? perfect!)
scary shit though! :)
This, Brian, is called a "deterrent". Do you think Trump wants to
ignite a war in which probably 50,000 Americans will die in the first
hour or so? I don't think so. Even the Antichrist is not *that*
stupid. He would be hoisted on his own petard so quickly you wouldn't
have time to blink.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 14:59:18 +0100, slider <slider@nanashram.com>
wrote:
When Donald Trump wasn’t complaining about black athletes and Republican >> senators opposed to their party’s far-right health care plan, the
president was threatening war with North Korea. He said via Twitter
yesterday:
“Just heard Foreign Minister of North Korea speak at U.N. If he echoes
thoughts of Little Rocket Man, they won’t be around much longer!”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-warns-north-korea-may-not-be-around-much-longer
It’s the kind of presidential statement that deserves some clarity –
because it sounds as if Trump is prepared to destroy North Korea if he
doesn’t like the rhetoric from its leaders.
Mother Jones’ Kevin Drum noted in response, “My guess is that Trump is >> trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing something provocative enough to
justify a U.S. attack…. Alternatively, of course, Trump tweeted this
because he’s a childish buffoon who has no self-control and engages in
schoolyard taunts with anyone he doesn’t like.”
That those appear to be the two most plausible explanations is
unsettling.
And yet, here we are. Trump’s tweet suggesting North Koreans may not be
“around much longer” comes on the heels of the American president
publicly
calling Kim Jong-un a “madman” who is “killing his people,” and who’ll
be
“tested like never before.”
That was soon followed by the president delivering a speech in Alabama
in
which he sounded indifferent about a diplomatic solution. “Maybe
something
gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t,” Trump said. “Personally, I’m not
sure that it will. Other people like to say, ‘Oh, we want peace.’ You
know, they’ve been saying now for 25 years, ‘Oh, we want peace, we want >> peace.’ And then he goes and just keeps going, going, going. Well, maybe >> something gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t.”
Days earlier, Trump delivered remarks to the United Nations’ General
Assembly, and publicly declared, “The United States has great strength
and
patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will
have
no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket Man is on a suicide
mission for himself and for his regime. The United States is ready,
willing and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary.”
What’s more, it was just last month that Trump threw around rhetoric
such
as “fire and fury” and “locked and loaded,” intensifying tensions for no
particular reason. The crisis cooled only when the American president
got
distracted by something new.
But now that Trump has a new nickname for Kim Jong-un, the White House
is
back to taunting and antagonizing a rogue nuclear regime. A New York
Times
report this morning said that among diplomats and national security
specialists, the American president’s posturing has sparked a range of
reactions ranging from “nervous disbelief to sheer terror.”
No good can come of this.
### - quote:
“My guess is that Trump is trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing
something
provocative enough to justify a U.S. attack…"
which sounds about right really... goad, insult, belittle, buzz their
airspace like never before, provoke him like anything, and maybe he'll
get
jumpy enough and lose his rag, overreact slightly or overtly; the ONLY
thing they haven't done yet is to actually down one of his test
missiles??
which MIGHT just be enough to actually get something outta him?
and that's the EASY course!
everything else is/would-be preemptive, perforce which risks china
carrying out their threat to 'defend' ding-dong if he's attacked first?
he doesn't 'appear' to be that gullible/foolish though, in which case he
can only then ratchet-up the stakes even higher with even more dastardly
provocations to elicit a first strike upon him! (e.g., has mentioned
letting-off an h-bomb OVER the pacific?! damn!)
just can't see them 'allowing' dong-dong to 'push' his way (especially
in
this manner) into the global nuclear-club??
nah... one way or another he's already gone far too far?
he's gonna get it!
so not 'if' but when?
(i think they're already determined to bar him (from that club) come
what
may, ya can't directly overtly threaten america like that and nothing
happens?? duh! they'll find a way to fuck him up! black-ops or whatever!
or, maybe one of his 'own' small nukes will seemingly 'accidentally'
explode above ground and then that will be that! who knows! but
something!
the decision has probably already been made! send in james bond and then
they can just blame it all on him? perfect!)
scary shit though! :)
Lummox! You've been reading too much Mirror and Express. Written for
people like you, do you have your tinfoil hat on and your Faraday Cage
ready for the apocalypse?
It would be good wouldn't it, an apocalypse? Bring all those pesky successful people, those happy people with things to buy and money
with which to buy those things, loving relationships and extended
families - all those people, brought down to *your* plane and *your*
level of unhappiness and poverty and existential woe. A few bombs
here, a few unwindings there, and then Slider is happy, rejoicing in
the deaths and destruction which atomic warfare will bring.
Slider, you're a fucking disgrace. And weak of mind as well. Just
because, probably due to your own ineptitude, your life is fucked, you
wish the same on everyone else in your stupid "wally world" fantasy
and self deception.
Why do you say "Scary shit though! :)" with the smiley attached, you
cunt? You wish that nuclear war would happen? You're so degenerate
you make public that wish? You're drooling and salivating like a
Pavlovian dog at bell time - it's not only unbecoming, it makes you
out as some sort of monster who basically hates the world inhabited by
his own species.
Now that I've discussed who you really are, let me throw a bit of
analysis at you.
It's well known that DPRK has around 60 nuclear weapons. What is not
known is the delivery systems - missile, artillery or gravity
(aircraft). DPRK has two satellites which orbit (transiently of
course) over the US but the largest is only 440kg and that's too small
to host a nuke but not too small to perhaps guide an ICBM in it's
boost stages.
With 60 nukes, a preemptive attack by the US had better take them all
out, but that's impossible. DPRK is very mountainous and these things
are almost certainly ready to launch or be lofted at a minutes notice
or are kept in deep shafts for protection as a counterstroke. There
are hundreds of thousands of US troops and civilians in Seoul, Tokyo,
air bases and the like within range of DPRK and millions of ROK troops
and civilians in range of those 60 nukes and possibly, there are nukes
in trawlers and shipping containers offshore of SF or Seattle or NY
ready to be detonated. Who knows?
This, Brian, is called a "deterrent". Do you think Trump wants to
ignite a war in which probably 50,000 Americans will die in the first
hour or so? I don't think so. Even the Antichrist is not *that*
stupid. He would be hoisted on his own petard so quickly you wouldn't
have time to blink.
You amaze me with your critical thinking abilities...
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:30:26 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
This, Brian, is called a "deterrent". Do you think Trump wants to
ignite a war in which probably 50,000 Americans will die in the first
hour or so? I don't think so. Even the Antichrist is not *that*
stupid. He would be hoisted on his own petard so quickly you wouldn't
have time to blink.
### - ALL of the above is precisely WHY they're VERY likely to take that >little twerp right out of the picture altogether any minute now! - WITHOUT >warning! - one time! - preemptively!
it's the only way!
as to "hoisting" a 'war-time' president; i think you can forget that pile
of nonsense!
the world is just about to be 'straightened out' thang! rearranged! all
the niggling little problems that stand (and have been standing) in the
way of 'progress' so called, are going to be removed and/or severely >handicapped/set-back a few decades!
that's the plan!
and, if half the world gets wiped out in the process; wtf do THEY care??
all the more for them then innit? (sarcasm...)
(truth is, there's about 2 thirds too many people on this planet to be >sustainable! so a huge 'cull' is also in order?!)
and no, i wasn't laughing at the prospect... i was just saying it's >frightening... only my 'detachment' is such it's not actually frightening? >hence the smiley...)
thang takes another... dump :)))
notOn Mon, 25 Sep 2017 14:59:18 +0100, slider <slider@nanashram.com>
wrote:
When Donald Trump wasn’t complaining about black athletes and Republican >>> senators opposed to their party’s far-right health care plan, the
president was threatening war with North Korea. He said via Twitter
yesterday:
“Just heard Foreign Minister of North Korea speak at U.N. If he echoes >>> thoughts of Little Rocket Man, they won’t be around much longer!”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-warns-north-korea-may-not-be-around-much-longer
It’s the kind of presidential statement that deserves some clarity – >>> because it sounds as if Trump is prepared to destroy North Korea if he
doesn’t like the rhetoric from its leaders.
Mother Jones’ Kevin Drum noted in response, “My guess is that Trump is >>> trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing something provocative enough to
justify a U.S. attack…. Alternatively, of course, Trump tweeted this
because he’s a childish buffoon who has no self-control and engages in >>> schoolyard taunts with anyone he doesn’t like.”
That those appear to be the two most plausible explanations is
unsettling.
And yet, here we are. Trump’s tweet suggesting North Koreans may not be >>> “around much longer” comes on the heels of the American president
publicly
calling Kim Jong-un a “madman” who is “killing his people,” and who’ll
be
“tested like never before.”
That was soon followed by the president delivering a speech in Alabama
in
which he sounded indifferent about a diplomatic solution. “Maybe
something
gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t,” Trump said. “Personally, I’m
sure that it will. Other people like to say, ‘Oh, we want peace.’ You >>> know, they’ve been saying now for 25 years, ‘Oh, we want peace, we want >>> peace.’ And then he goes and just keeps going, going, going. Well, maybe >>> something gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t.”
Days earlier, Trump delivered remarks to the United Nations’ General
Assembly, and publicly declared, “The United States has great strength >>> and
patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will
have
no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket Man is on a suicide >>> mission for himself and for his regime. The United States is ready,
willing and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary.”
What’s more, it was just last month that Trump threw around rhetoric
such
as “fire and fury” and “locked and loaded,” intensifying tensions for no
particular reason. The crisis cooled only when the American president
got
distracted by something new.
But now that Trump has a new nickname for Kim Jong-un, the White House
is
back to taunting and antagonizing a rogue nuclear regime. A New York
Times
report this morning said that among diplomats and national security
specialists, the American president’s posturing has sparked a range of >>> reactions ranging from “nervous disbelief to sheer terror.”
No good can come of this.
### - quote:
“My guess is that Trump is trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing
something
provocative enough to justify a U.S. attack…"
which sounds about right really... goad, insult, belittle, buzz their
airspace like never before, provoke him like anything, and maybe he'll
get
jumpy enough and lose his rag, overreact slightly or overtly; the ONLY
thing they haven't done yet is to actually down one of his test
missiles??
which MIGHT just be enough to actually get something outta him?
and that's the EASY course!
everything else is/would-be preemptive, perforce which risks china
carrying out their threat to 'defend' ding-dong if he's attacked first?
he doesn't 'appear' to be that gullible/foolish though, in which case he >>> can only then ratchet-up the stakes even higher with even more dastardly >>> provocations to elicit a first strike upon him! (e.g., has mentioned
letting-off an h-bomb OVER the pacific?! damn!)
just can't see them 'allowing' dong-dong to 'push' his way (especially
in
this manner) into the global nuclear-club??
nah... one way or another he's already gone far too far?
he's gonna get it!
so not 'if' but when?
(i think they're already determined to bar him (from that club) come
what
may, ya can't directly overtly threaten america like that and nothing
happens?? duh! they'll find a way to fuck him up! black-ops or whatever! >>> or, maybe one of his 'own' small nukes will seemingly 'accidentally'
explode above ground and then that will be that! who knows! but
something!
the decision has probably already been made! send in james bond and then >>> they can just blame it all on him? perfect!)
scary shit though! :)
Lummox! You've been reading too much Mirror and Express. Written for
people like you, do you have your tinfoil hat on and your Faraday Cage
ready for the apocalypse?
It would be good wouldn't it, an apocalypse? Bring all those pesky
successful people, those happy people with things to buy and money
with which to buy those things, loving relationships and extended
families - all those people, brought down to *your* plane and *your*
level of unhappiness and poverty and existential woe. A few bombs
here, a few unwindings there, and then Slider is happy, rejoicing in
the deaths and destruction which atomic warfare will bring.
Slider, you're a fucking disgrace. And weak of mind as well. Just
because, probably due to your own ineptitude, your life is fucked, you
wish the same on everyone else in your stupid "wally world" fantasy
and self deception.
Why do you say "Scary shit though! :)" with the smiley attached, you
cunt? You wish that nuclear war would happen? You're so degenerate
you make public that wish? You're drooling and salivating like a
Pavlovian dog at bell time - it's not only unbecoming, it makes you
out as some sort of monster who basically hates the world inhabited by
his own species.
Now that I've discussed who you really are, let me throw a bit of
analysis at you.
It's well known that DPRK has around 60 nuclear weapons. What is not
known is the delivery systems - missile, artillery or gravity
(aircraft). DPRK has two satellites which orbit (transiently of
course) over the US but the largest is only 440kg and that's too small
to host a nuke but not too small to perhaps guide an ICBM in it's
boost stages.
With 60 nukes, a preemptive attack by the US had better take them all
out, but that's impossible. DPRK is very mountainous and these things
are almost certainly ready to launch or be lofted at a minutes notice
or are kept in deep shafts for protection as a counterstroke. There
are hundreds of thousands of US troops and civilians in Seoul, Tokyo,
air bases and the like within range of DPRK and millions of ROK troops
and civilians in range of those 60 nukes and possibly, there are nukes
in trawlers and shipping containers offshore of SF or Seattle or NY
ready to be detonated. Who knows?
This, Brian, is called a "deterrent". Do you think Trump wants to
ignite a war in which probably 50,000 Americans will die in the first
hour or so? I don't think so. Even the Antichrist is not *that*
stupid. He would be hoisted on his own petard so quickly you wouldn't
have time to blink.
### - feel better now??
LOL :D
You amaze me with your critical thinking abilities...
### - and you bore me with yours :)
(there, you can add 'that' to your list of quip put-downs hah :)))
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:42:33 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:
thang takes another... dump :)))
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 14:59:18 +0100, slider <slider@nanashram.com>
wrote:
When Donald Trump wasn’t complaining about black athletes and
Republican
senators opposed to their party’s far-right health care plan, the
president was threatening war with North Korea. He said via Twitter
yesterday:
“Just heard Foreign Minister of North Korea speak at U.N. If he echoes >>>> thoughts of Little Rocket Man, they won’t be around much longer!”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-warns-north-korea-may-not-be-around-much-longer
It’s the kind of presidential statement that deserves some clarity – >>>> because it sounds as if Trump is prepared to destroy North Korea if he >>>> doesn’t like the rhetoric from its leaders.
Mother Jones’ Kevin Drum noted in response, “My guess is that Trump is >>>> trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing something provocative enough to
justify a U.S. attack…. Alternatively, of course, Trump tweeted this >>>> because he’s a childish buffoon who has no self-control and engages in >>>> schoolyard taunts with anyone he doesn’t like.”
That those appear to be the two most plausible explanations is
unsettling.
And yet, here we are. Trump’s tweet suggesting North Koreans may not >>>> be
“around much longer” comes on the heels of the American president
publicly
calling Kim Jong-un a “madman” who is “killing his people,” and who’ll
be
“tested like never before.”
That was soon followed by the president delivering a speech in Alabama >>>> in
which he sounded indifferent about a diplomatic solution. “Maybe
something
gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t,” Trump said. “Personally, I’m
not
sure that it will. Other people like to say, ‘Oh, we want peace.’ You >>>> know, they’ve been saying now for 25 years, ‘Oh, we want peace, we >>>> want
peace.’ And then he goes and just keeps going, going, going. Well,
maybe
something gets worked out and maybe it doesn’t.”
Days earlier, Trump delivered remarks to the United Nations’ General >>>> Assembly, and publicly declared, “The United States has great strength >>>> and
patience, but if it is forced to defend itself or its allies, we will
have
no choice but to totally destroy North Korea. Rocket Man is on a
suicide
mission for himself and for his regime. The United States is ready,
willing and able, but hopefully this will not be necessary.”
What’s more, it was just last month that Trump threw around rhetoric >>>> such
as “fire and fury” and “locked and loaded,” intensifying tensions for
no
particular reason. The crisis cooled only when the American president
got
distracted by something new.
But now that Trump has a new nickname for Kim Jong-un, the White House >>>> is
back to taunting and antagonizing a rogue nuclear regime. A New York
Times
report this morning said that among diplomats and national security
specialists, the American president’s posturing has sparked a range of >>>> reactions ranging from “nervous disbelief to sheer terror.”
No good can come of this.
### - quote:
“My guess is that Trump is trying to goad Kim Jong-un into doing
something
provocative enough to justify a U.S. attack…"
which sounds about right really... goad, insult, belittle, buzz their
airspace like never before, provoke him like anything, and maybe he'll >>>> get
jumpy enough and lose his rag, overreact slightly or overtly; the ONLY >>>> thing they haven't done yet is to actually down one of his test
missiles??
which MIGHT just be enough to actually get something outta him?
and that's the EASY course!
everything else is/would-be preemptive, perforce which risks china
carrying out their threat to 'defend' ding-dong if he's attacked
first?
he doesn't 'appear' to be that gullible/foolish though, in which case
he
can only then ratchet-up the stakes even higher with even more
dastardly
provocations to elicit a first strike upon him! (e.g., has mentioned
letting-off an h-bomb OVER the pacific?! damn!)
just can't see them 'allowing' dong-dong to 'push' his way (especially >>>> in
this manner) into the global nuclear-club??
nah... one way or another he's already gone far too far?
he's gonna get it!
so not 'if' but when?
(i think they're already determined to bar him (from that club) come
what
may, ya can't directly overtly threaten america like that and nothing
happens?? duh! they'll find a way to fuck him up! black-ops or
whatever!
or, maybe one of his 'own' small nukes will seemingly 'accidentally'
explode above ground and then that will be that! who knows! but
something!
the decision has probably already been made! send in james bond and
then
they can just blame it all on him? perfect!)
scary shit though! :)
Lummox! You've been reading too much Mirror and Express. Written for
people like you, do you have your tinfoil hat on and your Faraday Cage
ready for the apocalypse?
It would be good wouldn't it, an apocalypse? Bring all those pesky
successful people, those happy people with things to buy and money
with which to buy those things, loving relationships and extended
families - all those people, brought down to *your* plane and *your*
level of unhappiness and poverty and existential woe. A few bombs
here, a few unwindings there, and then Slider is happy, rejoicing in
the deaths and destruction which atomic warfare will bring.
Slider, you're a fucking disgrace. And weak of mind as well. Just
because, probably due to your own ineptitude, your life is fucked, you
wish the same on everyone else in your stupid "wally world" fantasy
and self deception.
Why do you say "Scary shit though! :)" with the smiley attached, you
cunt? You wish that nuclear war would happen? You're so degenerate
you make public that wish? You're drooling and salivating like a
Pavlovian dog at bell time - it's not only unbecoming, it makes you
out as some sort of monster who basically hates the world inhabited by
his own species.
Now that I've discussed who you really are, let me throw a bit of
analysis at you.
It's well known that DPRK has around 60 nuclear weapons. What is not
known is the delivery systems - missile, artillery or gravity
(aircraft). DPRK has two satellites which orbit (transiently of
course) over the US but the largest is only 440kg and that's too small
to host a nuke but not too small to perhaps guide an ICBM in it's
boost stages.
With 60 nukes, a preemptive attack by the US had better take them all
out, but that's impossible. DPRK is very mountainous and these things
are almost certainly ready to launch or be lofted at a minutes notice
or are kept in deep shafts for protection as a counterstroke. There
are hundreds of thousands of US troops and civilians in Seoul, Tokyo,
air bases and the like within range of DPRK and millions of ROK troops
and civilians in range of those 60 nukes and possibly, there are nukes
in trawlers and shipping containers offshore of SF or Seattle or NY
ready to be detonated. Who knows?
This, Brian, is called a "deterrent". Do you think Trump wants to
ignite a war in which probably 50,000 Americans will die in the first
hour or so? I don't think so. Even the Antichrist is not *that*
stupid. He would be hoisted on his own petard so quickly you wouldn't
have time to blink.
### - feel better now??
LOL :D
Hang on. This is deja vu all over again. Didn't you respond to this
post somewhere else?
WTF?
You amaze me with your critical thinking abilities...
### - and you bore me with yours :)
(there, you can add 'that' to your list of quip put-downs hah :)))
I like Churchill's retorts to Lady Astor but little known is her prods
of him, which were quite good also and pretty spontaneous. I'll try
to dig them up in respect for the dear departed brave woman.
And she was definitely not ugly.
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