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### - this is actually a very difficult/complex thing to talk about heh
;)
yah think? lol! (chris falls down laughing)
### - smile, changes in awareness are very hard to explain/describe, we
can't measure it so we can't talk about it!
i.e., if/when it's accomplished via drugs they blame the drugs themselves
and quantify it all in those terms, but in reality they don't know wtf
they's talking about when they want to suggest just what exactly is going
on in terms of awareness, that awareness isn't always the same is really
all we/they can say about it with any authority...
i.e., in 'his' scheme of things, stalkers & dreamers enter into the
second
attention in very different ways; the dreamers when they're asleep via
dreaming and the stalkers while they're awake (ringing any bells yet?)
it appears that is at least one way, yes.
### - that's the only 2 ways am aware of; either via dildo-ing when asleep
or via deliberate shifts of awareness while awake, while awake being more complex than dilding in that there are various ways & means of altering awareness while one is awake, including drugs, whereas dilding only ever
works the one way...
that if i were to use/borrow 'his' language, then i'd have to say that
i've been entering into that altered state of awareness (the second
attention?) for years via purely waking practices, whereas all you dudes
are dreamers dild-do-ing their way into it...
dildoing out of the dream into lucidity. those dreams that dreamers
'launch' from are no big deal really. Awareness hits it's peak and
bingo you're holding the steering wheel instead the bus (the dream)
driving you. If you ever have a dream where someone is drivin' the
bus or car, guess what? You're asleep at the wheel pal. No bullshit.
It represents how you've been livin' your life. But you get some
awareness
you might get hip in the dream to at least wake up and say "son of a
bitch"
i ain't lettin' nobody drive my car/bus. No one has driven my
motorcycle
in a dream. That would be a sad day for a dreamer like me.
### - well, dilding is not that easy to achieve, it can take years to even begin to get anywhere useful?
changes/shifts in awareness during waking, however, are more varied &
complex, that there's more than one thing alone that can do so complicates
it far more than the single dild method alone, most of which are entirely accidental and uncontrolled as when using various drugs for example, otoh, intelligently coming to understand just how awareness typically settles
into one position via polished routines & habits etc, can lead to some
very different + almost volitional shifts should one choose to
deliberately mess with those same routines & habits in order to see what happens, that being initiated this way only approaches full control of
these shifts rather than an actual + direct control as when, for example, someone quite deliberately initiates a full WILD by manipulating their own awareness in stages to get there... there's no comparison!
now let's not confuse things any, because i'd been doing that long
before
i'd ever read anything from matey, many reports & examples of which i've
even posted here, describing, for example, how 'deliberate' changes to
one's routine can often result in a profoundly altered state of
awareness...
Maybe so, getting the shit scared out of you works too.
### - quite possibly, but again that's all down to some third party
initiating the shift as opposed to actually shifting it yourself from
within without all the external scaring and fuss...
yes things can impinge upon awareness from without and force it to shift,
but it's actually much better if/when one initiates that shift oneself
from within...
next book: 'the shifts from within'? (haha)
back then to the descriptions of doing something very similar by the gal
in question, and even some of the experiences reported by the man
himself
which all entail waking experiences of same (even jeremy found/gave
several examples of what could only be called WILDing in his texts?)
getting boned at the drive-in movie is a little drastic.
And then juan mateus walks in on you too.
### - she claimed to be a 'stalker' as florinda claimed to be a dreamer...
in one you learn to manipulate your awareness via dreaming, and in the
other via controlling one's 'behaviour'
### - matey suggested that if one doesn't have enough accumulated
'energy'
then you can intend all you like but nada is ever gonna happen, said
'energy' being gathered by 'not' being one's usual self, something he
called impeccability ;)
one either has momentum in their life or they don't. They're probably fucked up and spining their wheels IF they lose their momentum. It
takes more than just doing your best, your heart has to be in it all
the way. This be where the feeling comes from. Can't be faked. This
is the place of sincerity. You see peeps with real passion, you can't
stop 'em and furthermore you don't even want to get in their way. Being impeccable is a little on the vague side. You can go around like a crazy person thinking you are doing your best, all the while you're pulling
your
pud. YOu can even write best sellers and bullshit the world. :)
### - 'momentum' is what carries the human race along on its present
course, the inertia of it being such that everything is thus sucked into
it and pulled along whether it wants to or not, to be impeccable, in that context, meaning to deliberately go against the grain & tide and, as such, build up a new momentum going in a different direction...
### - 'persistence' is also a thing; you keep knocking on a door and
eventually it opens, iow: the universe apparently can't deal with
persistence so of course only having a couple of half-hearted stabs at
something just isn't anywhere near enough to said persistence to change
anything, something he called unbending intent; the preferred method of
sorcerers to deliberately shift one's awareness around...
in another story, he described how deliberately manipulating one's
'feelings' (in that instance by feeling gigantic) can also be called
intent, so keeping a feeling with you of having already won something,
for
example, is actually along those same lines and thus might indeed work
if
persisted with for long enough (which is what you appear to be
saying/suggesting)
I would disagree .. your intent is inside of you, not outside of you.
YOu look to god or intent or creation (however you want to frame it)
you're dreaming some magical energy is going to answer little ole you.
Sure pal. You're so special that you desire a silver star today. ha ha
### - i've only been talking about awareness and how it can be changed,
not about winning the damn lottery lol :)))
dildo-ing doesn't seem to play out though, as am sure someone like
jeremy
wouldn't have gotten stuck at the first gate otherwise + almost
certainly
would have grabbed onto a couple all allies and followed that up had he
ever encountered anything like that in his travels...
don't worry about him, he encountered plenty out there in
the dream world. He continued, he never got hung up on
shorty data.
### - and gots nowhere with it apparently? all those years of dildo-ing
getting him nada except being disillusioned with it all when it came to
cc, to the point that he now dismisses the whole subject (of lucid
dreaming) altogether as being useless (which is exactly what he
deliberately put in his review of my book: that "in the end it's just
dreams so what does it matter anyway + why bother" kinda thing albeit
using different words...) and thus he refused to even 'look' at WILDing
because he thinks he knows ahead of time that it's all useless, that it's
just more dreams and so what etc etc...
i, however, have a different idea about him heh, that he DID try it! and succeeded with WILDing!
all the rest is just bs because he didn't wanna admit there's anything to
it or that it's so easy to accomplish, if he didn't admit trying it then
he doesn't have to discuss it (it's too difficult for him he whined? riiiight... but the relaxation exercises were good he said? so how did he
know that if he didn't go at least that far??)
lol he did it alright, i KNOW he did! so really he's just another
dishonest hypocrite!
fuck him! in reality he's just a lying-cunt and manipulator whose ended up doing exactly what he claims to despise, iow a total hypocrite, and that's
why he eventually had to run away with his tale between his legs (pun
intended heh) :)
WILDing, however, is very different, one enters into an altered state of
awareness fully awake and already aware + only a few trips back and
forth
is enough to find that midway point/black-void (his dark sea of
awareness?) in which, it's true, you can do anything you want, including
various forms of bi-location! (go figure!)
yeah all things are possible in the dream world. Something like what
all the jesus freaks say in "with god all things are possible". Sound familar? Gotta blame something don't we? god is so great! yes he
is. how many people have died in his name? fuck, we lost track.
### - you're missing the point here? that technically speaking one isn't actually asleep while standing at that midway point/void, no more asleep
than when just waking from a dild and you're laying there now in bed now replaying it over in your head...
that what happens (and can happen) at this point is nada to do with
dreaming, one can certainly jump into a lucid dream from there should you
want to, but what happens at the midway point happens to us in full waking awareness so dreaming really isn't the issue here, the fact that from
'that' pov it then becomes a very simple matter to shift one's awareness
to a variety of different places with ease is the interesting part, only
'one' of which leads into an actual dream scenario...
now i dunno 'where' he got it all from originally, and could even care
less, but much of it appears to be correct in the stalking department at
any rate hehe ;)
only validate what you find out, remember you're still somewhat of a scientist, they do have some integrity and honesty.
### - i spent a very long time checking it out and breaking it all down
into its absolute basics before publishing the results of all that work (approx. 12 years worth!) there being just sooo many potential tangents
it's possible to go-off on along the way into a WILD that i had to break
it all down to find 'the' most basic and direct form of it, the no-frills version...
i mean, yeah you can suffer sleep paralysis and loud buzzing vibrations, horrible shadows and shit sitting on your chest and pulling you about and
thus go-off down the obe/astral projection route interpretation, only who
needs all that off-putting fuss and discomfort when you can just go
straight to 'go' and collect your dream buck$ via the hypnagogia directly instead?
you WILDed in the hot-tub once remember? so just imagine doing exactly the
same thing while sitting instead on the sofa or elsewhere, whenever you
liked or choose to at a moments notice?
and that's only the 'lucid dream' part of it all! something dilding itself
is almost completely restricted to, unlike WILDs that offers more than
just the one single option of lucid dreaming alone...
the real (+ new) 'gem' (or upgrade then) in all this, being this midway point/dark-void, that while being able to more easily step into a lucid
dream in a more completely volitional manner is an important discovery &
step, it's this midway point/dark void that is the 'real' discovery in all this! (something that's deliberately understated in the book in favour of
lucid dreaming)
and because right there on a proverbial plate, is yer 'portal of intent' (because it can be used as such) and is also the means to reach
emancipation in terms of controlling the shifts & changes of one's
awareness...
note: i deliberately wrote it all without reference to cc's (or anyone
else's interpretation) in a clear effort to throw the whole thing wide
open, if people wanna then extrapolate it into their own preferred lingo/culture then that's up to them (am doing that here with you re cc
but didn't do that in the book, thus making it cult-less...)
;)
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