From: slider@nanashram.com

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:31:21 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

### - when continually faced with biased information (both good & bad,
often deliberately in order to confuse/pacify the public) i'd always opt, particularly in this instance, for worse case scenarios to actually be
'more' representative of the truth than that put out by so-called
'official' channels with likely vested interests in keeping certain
industries going, public safety usually/traditionally being very low on
their list for all the obvious reasons... (official channels never lie?? riiight... could almost say it's their 'job' to lie! to continually
massage the figures!)

2/3 of the flora and fauna on this planet: just gone! i'd suggest speaks volumes about 'official' fucking channels! we've fucked up jeremy and we
don't wanna admit it/are in denial about it!

it's sooo serious they've been 'lying' about fuckUshima from the
beginning! (doesn't matter WHAT happens they tell everyone: please
carry-on as normal, nothing's changed!) several chernobyls leaking/dumped
into the ocean continually for the last 6 years but nothing's changed!?!
no effect?? 'recommended safe levels'!?! riiight... it's being swept under
the carpet! (it's actually too expensive to clean up for real, see? plus
factor in all the 'other' shit they also gots to clean up too and the
costs go off the scale!)

http://www.globalresearch.ca/28-signs-that-the-west-coast-is-being-absolutely-fried-with-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima/5355280

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ocean-is-dying-marine-and-animal-life-die-offs-california-coast/5451836?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/nuclear-meltdown-in-japan/2012-09-impact-to-us-west-coast-from-fukushima-disaster-likely-larger-than-anticipated-several-reports-indicate

http://www.ourradioactiveocean.org/results.html

***

i think another good point above there being about the tons of highly irradiated material subsequently washed up on beaches and surrounding
areas all along the west coast? never really considered that aspect of it before, terrible/horrible... we're such... cunts?

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From: slider@nanashram.com

On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 16:57:20 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 12:42:05 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:31:21 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:

### - when continually faced with biased information (both good & bad,
often deliberately in order to confuse/pacify the public) i'd always
opt,
particularly in this instance, for worse case scenarios to actually be
'more' representative of the truth than that put out by so-called
'official' channels with likely vested interests in keeping certain
industries going, public safety usually/traditionally being very low on
their list for all the obvious reasons... (official channels never lie??
riiight... could almost say it's their 'job' to lie! to continually
massage the figures!)

Convoluted reasoning. Conspiracy theories.

2/3 of the flora and fauna on this planet: just gone! i'd suggest speaks
volumes about 'official' fucking channels! we've fucked up jeremy and we
don't wanna admit it/are in denial about it!

it's sooo serious they've been 'lying' about fuckUshima from the
beginning! (doesn't matter WHAT happens they tell everyone: please
carry-on as normal, nothing's changed!) several chernobyls
leaking/dumped
into the ocean continually for the last 6 years but nothing's changed!?!
no effect?? 'recommended safe levels'!?! riiight... it's being swept
under
the carpet! (it's actually too expensive to clean up for real, see? plus
factor in all the 'other' shit they also gots to clean up too and the
costs go off the scale!)

Most real scientists aren't lying, and real data is real data.
Often the few who do are directly tied to industry pocketbooks
or have extreme political pressure to do so (like under Trump).

http://www.globalresearch.ca/28-signs-that-the-west-coast-is-being-absolutely-fried-with-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima/5355280

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ocean-is-dying-marine-and-animal-life-die-offs-california-coast/5451836?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/nuclear-meltdown-in-japan/2012-09-impact-to-us-west-coast-from-fukushima-disaster-likely-larger-than-anticipated-several-reports-indicate

http://www.ourradioactiveocean.org/results.html

If you had better sources, why didn't you post them,
instead of that garbage you posted first? How many websites
are we supposed to read to figure out if you ever really
backed up the claim you made in the original thread title?

***

i think another good point above there being about the tons of highly
irradiated material subsequently washed up on beaches and surrounding

areas all along the west coast? never really considered that aspect of
it

before, terrible/horrible... we're such... cunts?

I haven't had time to read all these other web sites yet
to see if they really support "not eating fish" with real data
tied to actual radioactivity in fish. But I will.

### - been over all this before jeremy about sources; that, for instance, because even a stopped clock is correct twice a day, i thus choose
articles from ANY source NOT because they are particularly reputable but because they are saying/suggesting what *i am* thinking/approximating at
the time before i even read them, ok? in which case the 'source' itself
has got nothing to do with it!

and because very often main stream media doesn't report what's actually happening! (or is the last to do so!) and/or has been influenced to
officially say/not-say certain things!

for instance: here in the uk we currently gots an angry mob bitterly complaining that 'although' an independent public inquiry has been
launched to cover some horrendous event or another, the RESULTS from said so-called 'public' inquiry (it turns out) is vetted by the government
BEFORE being released TO the public???

iow: there might, for example, be 3 possible reasons why something
occurred that such an inquiry uncovers, only the government has the last
say as to which explanation is published OF those 3!

in which case: so much for the veracity of so-called official sources!

as an added note on something along similar lines: there's not much point
in 'intuiting' something if you don't 'realise' you're intuiting it??

that takes time/doesn't come overnight!

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From: thangolossus@gmail.com

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 02:21:31 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:

Fukushima scientists have warned the public that the days of eating fish
from the Pacific ocean are well and truly over.

http://yournewswire.com/fukushima-never-eat-fish/

The continual leaking of nuclear waste into the ocean is being covered-up
by officials and is getting worse each day.

According to one scientist, TEPCO, the company in charge of monitoring the >plant, has data that shows radiation pouring into the Pacific Ocean
non-stop for the past six years.

According to other scientists who have examined the radiation levels of
fish in the ocean, the days of “eating fish from the Pacific ocean are >over”.

The contaminated water is believed to contain traces of radioactive
iodine, cesium, and strontium-89 and 90.

The half life of Strontium 89 is only 50 days and it has an important application in medical science.

"What is Metastron™?

The active ingredient in Metastron™ is a radioactive substance called strontium [89Sr] chloride. It also contains non-radioactive strontium
chloride and water for injections. Metastron is a radiopharmaceutical
product used for therapeutic purposes. When injected such products
collect in a specific organ or area of tissue. Because they contain
small amounts of radioactivity they can be used to deliver therapy to
that particular area."

It kills cancer cells and its brief HL means it's gone quickly to less
than background count.

On the other hand, Strontium 90 has a HL of 29 years - 1000g of this
material would be only 500g after 29 years. It emits ionizing
radiation and is a toxic hazard. Yet the particles it emits can be
focused and kills bone cancer. It's very toxic and longlasting.

The article should state the amounts lost to the ocean and
proportions. Also what other isotopes are there?

It's a worry. Strontium 90 contaminated every child in the US due to
atomic testing, it's in what remains of their teeth.

Despite efforts from the Japanese government to bring the problem under >control, the fish have been saturated by the continuous radiation being >pumped into the ocean. The contamination has also resulted in the closure
of fishing industries.

I don't believe this for a moment. It's too big a catastrophe to be
ignored or hidden. It's bullshit. Get some cred and state some
sources and qualifications.

Worryingly, new studies reveal that fish caught off the West coast of the >United States and in Canada are also testing positive for radiation >poisoning.

### - fish is 'off' the menu.

Like fuck it is. I eat fish as often as possible, never less than
twice a week - salmon, barramundi, snapper, sweetlips, etc. All local
and most from the Indian Ocean, not the Pacific.

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From: slider@nanashram.com

On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 11:27:19 +0100, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

I don't believe this for a moment. It's too big a catastrophe to be
ignored or hidden. It's bullshit. Get some cred and state some
sources and qualifications.

### - it SO big a catastrophe that it HAS to be covered up more like!?!?

fact is, there's nothing we can do about it anyway so no point in worrying people then, innit?

yes yes we all glow in the dark now and are rotting from the inside, BUT
back now to 56 channels of gladiators!!! yeaaaa!

carry on working your bollocks off peeps, your economy needs YOU! :)

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From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

On Thursday, August 10, 2017 at 12:42:05 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:

On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:31:21 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:

### - when continually faced with biased information (both good & bad,
often deliberately in order to confuse/pacify the public) i'd always opt, particularly in this instance, for worse case scenarios to actually be
'more' representative of the truth than that put out by so-called
'official' channels with likely vested interests in keeping certain industries going, public safety usually/traditionally being very low on
their list for all the obvious reasons... (official channels never lie?? riiight... could almost say it's their 'job' to lie! to continually
massage the figures!)

Convoluted reasoning. Conspiracy theories.

2/3 of the flora and fauna on this planet: just gone! i'd suggest speaks volumes about 'official' fucking channels! we've fucked up jeremy and we don't wanna admit it/are in denial about it!

it's sooo serious they've been 'lying' about fuckUshima from the
beginning! (doesn't matter WHAT happens they tell everyone: please
carry-on as normal, nothing's changed!) several chernobyls leaking/dumped into the ocean continually for the last 6 years but nothing's changed!?!
no effect?? 'recommended safe levels'!?! riiight... it's being swept under the carpet! (it's actually too expensive to clean up for real, see? plus factor in all the 'other' shit they also gots to clean up too and the
costs go off the scale!)

Most real scientists aren't lying, and real data is real data.
Often the few who do are directly tied to industry pocketbooks
or have extreme political pressure to do so (like under Trump).

http://www.globalresearch.ca/28-signs-that-the-west-coast-is-being-absolutely-fried-with-nuclear-radiation-from-fukushima/5355280

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ocean-is-dying-marine-and-animal-life-die-offs-california-coast/5451836?utm_campaign=magnet&utm_source=article_page&utm_medium=related_articles

http://bellona.org/news/nuclear-issues/nuclear-meltdown-in-japan/2012-09-impact-to-us-west-coast-from-fukushima-disaster-likely-larger-than-anticipated-several-reports-indicate

http://www.ourradioactiveocean.org/results.html

If you had better sources, why didn't you post them,
instead of that garbage you posted first? How many websites
are we supposed to read to figure out if you ever really
backed up the claim you made in the original thread title?

***

i think another good point above there being about the tons of highly irradiated material subsequently washed up on beaches and surrounding

areas all along the west coast? never really considered that aspect of it

before, terrible/horrible... we're such... cunts?

I haven't had time to read all these other web sites yet
to see if they really support "not eating fish" with real data
tied to actual radioactivity in fish. But I will.

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