• Death Of A Search Engine - Will He Low Man 2-1-0 V. 2085

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Monday, July 22, 2019 06:54:11
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    The exotic technology is withheld so the lesser techs can be
    exploited allowing the purginging of primordial psychopathies.

    Google was infested and harvested as a standard villain equation.
    Nature Is Nature.
    Intellect Is Intellect
    Emotion Is Emotion.

    Welcome to 2019.

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    No Wonder Google Execs Cried When Hillary Lost – They Funded Crowdstrike – The ‘Experts’ Behind the Russian Hackers Story
    Joe Hoft by Joe Hoft July 21, 2019 159 Comments

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    The day after the 2016 Presidential election the leadership team at Google was caught crying at a company-wide meeting with one exec saying “We lost.”
    Now we know that they were behind the firm that claimed Russia hacked the DNC – Crowdstrike!

    The Gateway Pundit previously reported after the 2016 election on Breitbart.com’s video showing Google execs crying like children after Hillary
    Clinton’s loss.

    A video recorded by Google shortly after the 2016 presidential election reveals an atmosphere of panic and dismay amongst the tech giant’s leadership, coupled with a determination to thwart both the Trump agenda and the broader populist movement
    emerging around the globe.

    We now know more about why these execs may have been crying after the election – Google is funded Crowdstrike!

    In July 2015 Google invested $100 million into Crowdstrike –


    Google Capital, the two-year-old growth equity arm of search giant Google (GOOG), announced its first security investment on Monday morning.

    The fund has pumped $100 million into cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. It was joined by cloud computing company Rackspace (RAX), which is a customer, and
    the firm’s existing investors Accel and Warburg Pincus. The new infusion represents a Series C
    round for the Irvine, Calif.-based company, bringing its total funding raised to date to $156 million.

    Crowdstrike admitted this on their website.

    At about this same time, the media reported in February of 2015 (four months before Trump even announced running for POTUS) the Intel community was advising
    Congress and the White House on the issue and extent of Russian hacking and blaming Russian
    hacking (going as far back as 2012) on Ukraine aggression.

    This information was no doubt based on claims made by Crowdstrike. A year later, the only firm that investigated the DNC emails that were released by WikiLeaks was Crowdstrike.
    How was Crowdstrike able to determine that in 2015 the Russians hacked Congress
    because they were upset about Ukraine and then a year later claim Russians hacked the DNC because they didn’t like Hillary Clinton?

    We reported on May 11, 2019, that Roger Stone and his legal team are requesting
    the report from Crowdstrike, the firm connected with the Deep State and tied to
    Google.

    Roger Stone is trying to get the Crowdstrike Report. https://t.co/zl7rmEz2NU

    — Semi-Casual Observer (@CasualSemi) May 10, 2019

    Their position is that if the Mueller team and the FBI did not inspect the DNC server, then how can they know that the server was hacked. This logical argument makes sense.

    The chain of custody of evidence is kind of a big deal. If the FBI didn't have custody of the server, and if they never examined it, they cannot verify what happened to the data on it. https://t.co/0PmN50YAmy

    — Praying Medic (@prayingmedic) May 10, 2019

    The Mueller team is fighting back against the Stone team and arguing that it is
    not necessary to see the documents that support that Russia hacked the DNC.

    This is preposterous!

    If it is "so obvious" the Russian government orchestrated the email disclosures of the 2016 campaign, why are the #Mueller leftovers in the #RogerStone case asking the court to relieve them of that very obligation, saying they should "not be required
    to prove" that very fact? pic.twitter.com/WdfSzSsvF2

    — Robert Barnes (@Barnes_Law) May 10, 2019

    We’ve been reporting for months that the entire Russia collusion delusion is a sham.
    To date there has been no evidence reported that proves the DNC was hacked by the Russians.

    No reports to date show that the DNC server was inspected by the Mueller team and the FBI. Since this is the case, there is no way the Mueller team can claim
    the server was hacked.

    More people believe that the DNC had emails stolen by an insider and this is how the DNC emails reached WikiLeaks. The WikiLeaks team has stated numerous times that Russians did not provide them with the DNC emails.

    Since there is no proof for the emails being hacked, the reports that Russians were involved in the collusion delusion evaporate.

    This would and should destroy the entire Russian sham make-believe case. Our reporting has been confirmed by others in the Intelligence community.

    After speaking w/ my @FBI sources & a @nytimes reporter with direct knowledge of the handling of the @DNC server it's true – there was no direct examination or physically custody of the DNC server – an "image" (i.e. copy) of the server was
    examined only: https://t.co/yDJKCYmUQC

    — Tony Shaffer (@T_S_P_O_O_K_Y) May 12, 2019

    We reported that former NSA employee and whistle blower, Bill Binney, has reviewed the information provided online by WikiLeaks and it shows that the data coming from the DNC was not hacked but rather copied to a disk or flash drive!

    Binney says:

    The problem with the Mueller report and the Rosenstein indictment is it’s
    all based on lies. I mean the fact they’re still lying about the, saying the DNC was hacked by the Russians and the Russians gave it to WikiLeaks.

    Well, we had some of our people and our group, the VIPS, the Veteran Intelligence Professionals, look at the data that WikiLeaks posted on the DNC data. They actually posted the DNC data…

    …that entire set of data was read to a thumb drive or a CD Rom then physically transported. Now this is what Kim Dotcom is saying. This is what Julian Assange basically was inferring. Others have been saying the same things.”

    NSA Whistleblower and longtime intelligence analyst Bill Binney on continuation of #RussiaGate fever: "The problem with the Mueller Report & the Rosenstein indictment is it's based on lies."

    FULL INTERVIEW: https://t.co/qiTOpvNd2q pic.twitter.com/tDSSSg0j0H

    — Status Coup (@StatusCoup) June 3, 2019

    It’s clear the DNC was not hacked and it’s more likely an insider like a Seth Rich copied the files to a disk drive and turned them over to Wikileaks. This is more likely than reports that the Russians hacked the DNC.
    Now we know why Google executives were crying when Donald Trump won the Presidency.
    They were tied to the purveyors of Russian Collusion – Crowdstrike!

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Monday, July 22, 2019 06:55:19
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, July 28, 2019 17:34:29
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Google and Gabbard at War: Stand by for Legal Fireworks

    Has Google’s 2020 election interference begun? by Jeff Charles

    https://www.libertynation.com/google-and-gabbard-at-war-stand-by-for-legal-fireworks/

    It appears that interference in the 2020 election has already begun, and it’s
    not the Russians this time. In fact, the perpetrator isn’t even a foreign entity, but a company that provides services to most Americans daily: Google.

    Earlier this year, undercover investigative organization Project Veritas exposed a Google executive expressing the desire to “fix” the results of the 2016 election and promote a progressive agenda in the future. Was this the wild fantasy of a single
    employee, or does Google genuinely intend to meddle in the democratic process, starting with the 2020 election? It seems the company may have already launched
    its first salvo. Rather than Trump, however, it is Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Tulsi
    Gabbard (D-HI) who claims to have fallen victim to Google’s bias. But the candidate isn’t backing down.
    Google Interfering In Election?

    Gabbard recently filed a lawsuit against Google for allegedly scuttling her online advertising campaign. The suit alleges the company blocked her commercials from appearing on its Google Ads service only hours after the first
    Democratic primary debate
    ended. It seems the tech giant may have pulled down Gabbard’s ads when she became the most-searched candidate on Google in the hours after the debate concluded.

    In the lawsuit, Gabbard claims that Google’s actions kept her from reaching millions of voters. She is seeking “declaratory and injunctive relief against
    Google for its illegal behavior,” and seeking $50 million in damages, arguing
    that she could
    have lost “potentially millions” in donations. While Google says it suspended her account as a result of suspicious financial activity,

    Tulsi Gabbard

    Gabbard’s campaign penned an email to supporters indicating that Google “obfuscated and dissembled with a series of inconsistent and incoherent reasons for its actions.” By the time her advertising was reinstated, she had
    lost out on the bump the
    debates had given her, she alleges.

    But why would a company like Google go after Gabbard specifically? As a woman of color with the same basic policies as the more left-leaning candidates, one would hardly expect her to offend the Silicon Valley mindset. But Gabbard adopts a stance that
    many on both the left and the right cannot abide: She is virulently anti-war. The representative has been the subject of criticism due to her opposition to America’s involvement in foreign conflicts. The last thing the establishment on both sides of
    the political aisle would want is another president who opposes American involvement in unnecessary foreign wars.
    The Interference Has Begun

    In June, Project Veritas’ undercover reporters caught Google’s Head of Responsible Innovation Jen Gennai on tape voicing her disapproval of potential government regulations on the company. Her objection wasn’t that the state should not control
    private entities; rather, her problem was that such legislation could make it harder for corporations such as hers to influence the political conversation and even elections. Regulation to break up Big Tech companies, such as that recently suggested by
    both Democrats and Republicans, “will not make it better, it will make it worse,” she said. “Because now all these smaller companies who don’t have
    the same resources as we do will be charged with preventing the next Trump situation, it’s like
    a small company cannot do that.”

    Well, it appears that Google wishes to prevent a Tulsi situation as well. If Gabbard’s allegations are accurate, one of the most influential tech companies in the world is using its power to sway the results of the 2020 election. That one entity
    possesses the power to influence millions of American minds is not a matter people should take lightly. While the public is distracted with disagreements over the president’s tweets, certain forces are covertly using their resources to subvert the will
    of the public. The 2020 election will be hard-fought, but what will happen if Google is allowed to decide the results?

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, July 28, 2019 17:38:05
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    https://www.newstarget.com/2019-07-28-google-exposed-again-for-anti-trump-bias-in-search-results.html

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    Google exposed AGAIN for anti-Trump bias in its search results and news feed in
    latest Project Veritas whistleblower bombshell

    07/28/2019 / By JD Heyes

    A long-time Google software engineer has spilled the beans about how tech giant
    Google really does prejudice its search results and news feeds against POTUS Donald Trump, and with an eye toward altering the outcome of the 2020 election.

    In a newly released video on Wednesday, Project Dr. Greg Coppola, who has a Ph.D. in philosophy in Computer Science and has worked at Google for more than five years, told Project Veritas’ James O’Keefe that the tech giant’s news feed and search
    algorithms have been purposely altered so that users mostly get negative content about the president and his administration.

    It’s not as though the algorithm is designed to weed out news sources that are generally truthful and more complimentary of the president, Coppola noted. Rather, it’s that they are written in ways to concentrate on news and information from sources
    with noted, distinct anti-Trump bias.

    “Google News is really an aggregator of just a handful of sites and all of those sites really are vitriolically against President Trump, which I would really consider to be interference in the American election,” Coppola says in
    the video. “Like
    for example, CNN is the most commonly used source in Google News: 20 percent of
    all results for Donald Trump are from CNN when that’s the entire internet of millions of sites.”

    Coppola emphasizes that he’s not simply making things up and that what he’s
    alleging isn’t a conspiracy theory, but rather information that is based on hard-and-fast knowledge and experience.

    “I’ve been coding since I was ten [years old.] I have a Ph.D., I have five years’ experience at Google and I just know how algorithms are,” Coppola says. “They don’t write themselves. We write them to do what want them to do.”

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    It also seems quite obvious that what Google is attempting to do is alter the outcome of the 2020 elections against Republicans and certainly in favor of whomever runs against POTUS Trump, something he describes as “dangerous”:

    I think we’re just at a really important point in human history. I think for a while we had tech that was politically neutral. Now we have tech that really, first of all, is taking sides in a political contest, which I think, you know, anytime you
    have big corporate power merging with political parties can be dangerous.

    Big tech bias “is something we’ve only begun to talk about”

    Though he’s sounding the alarm as a Google whistleblower, Robert Epstein, a Democrat voter and researcher, has said that, based on his own studies, Google has the power to influence millions of votes.

    “Robert Epstein who testified before Congress last week, um, looked into it and showed that you know, the vast majority of people think that if something is higher rated on Google Search than another story, that it would be more important and more
    correct,” Coppola said.

    “And you know, we haven’t had time to absorb the fact that tech might have an agenda. I mean, it’s something that we’re only starting to talk about now.” (Related: Idiocy: CNN’s “Reliable Sources” host Brian Stelter isn’t buying Project
    Veritas’ Google bombshells because he couldn’t find any info about it… on
    Google.)

    In studies last year, Epstein concluded that Google’s skewed search results and Google News feed may have changed as many as three elections in favor of Democrats.

    “Analysis of this data showed a clear pro-Democrat bias in election-related Google search results as compared to competing search engines,” Breitbart News reported.

    As for Google’s agenda, Coppola was clear that the tech behemoth is solidly Left, pro-Democrat, and anti-Trump.

    “I think it’s, you know, ridiculous to say that there’s no bias. I think everyone who supports anything other than the Democrats, anyone who’s pro-Trump or in any way deviates from what CNN and the New York Times are pushing, notices how bad it
    is,” he told Project Veritas.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 06:23:10
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Presidential Candidate Blocked From Google - Files Lawsuit https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1156021188948160512?s=20

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 07:48:40
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/08/14/google-machine-learning-fairness-whistleblower-goes-public-says-burden-lifted-off-of-my-soul/



    Google “Machine Learning Fairness” Whistleblower Goes Public, says: “burden lifted off of my soul”

    by Staff Report August 14, 2019 in News Posts / Press Releases / Top Stories / Tech / Google

    VIDEO: “the police began looking for me…”
    https://youtu.be/g1VeElBAeas

    Google Sent Threatening Letter to Google Insider Zachary Vorhies: “they knew what I had done and that letter contained several demands”
    HUNDREDS of Internal Google Documents Leaked to Project Veritas… news blacklist, “human raters,” YouTube CEO video…
    Google Insider Wants More Insiders to Blow Whistle: “people have been waiting
    for this Google Snowden moment where somebody comes out and explains what everybody already knows to be true”
    “I felt that our entire election system was going to be compromised forever,
    by this company that told the American public that it was not going to do any evil”
    The internal Google documents are available here.

    (San Francisco) A Google insider who anonymously leaked internal documents to Project Veritas made the decision to go public in an on-the-record video interview. The insider, Zachary Vorhies, decided to go public after receiving a
    letter from Google, and
    after he says Google allegedly called the police to perform a “wellness check” on him.

    Along with the interview, Vorhies asked Project Veritas to publish more of the internal Google documents he had previously leaked. Said Vorhies:

    “I gave the documents to Project Veritas, I had been collecting the documents for over a year. And the reason why I collected these documents was because I saw something dark and nefarious going on with the company and I realized that there were
    going to not only tamper with the elections, but use that tampering with the elections to essentially overthrow the United States.”

    (Do you work in Big Tech? Project Veritas would love to hear from you.)

    In June of 2019, Project Veritas published internal Google documents revealing “algorithmic unfairness.” Vorhies told Project Veritas these were documents
    that were widely available to full-time Google employees:

    “These documents were available to every single employee within the company that was full-time. And so as a fulltime employee at the company, I just searched for some keywords and these documents started to pop up. And so once I started finding one
    document and started finding keywords for other documents and I would enter that in and continue this cycle until I had a treasure trove and archive of documents that clearly spelled out the system, what they’re attempting to do in very clear language.


    Vorhies walks towards police with phone in hand.

    Intimidation

    Shortly after the report including the “algorithmic unfairness” documents was published, Vorhies received a letter from Google containing several “demands.” Vorhies told Project Veritas that he complied with Google’s demands, which included a
    request for any internal Google documents he may have personally retained. Vorhies also said he sent those documents to the Department of Justice Antitrust Division.
    (Project Veritas is hiring. If you want to become an undercover journalist, apply here!)

    After having been identified by an anonymous account (which Vorhies believes belongs to a Google employee,) on social media as a “leaker,” Vorhies was approached by law enforcement at his residence in California. According to Vorhies, San Francisco
    police received a call from Google which prompted a “wellness check.”

    Vorhies described the incident to Project Veritas:

    “they got inside the gate, the police, and they started banging on my door… And so the police decided that they were going to call in additional forces. They called in the FBI, they called in the SWAT team. And they called in a bomb squad.”

    “[T]his is a large way in which [Google tries to] intimidate their employees that go rogue on the company…”

    Partial video of the incident was provided to Project Veritas. San Francisco police confirmed to Project Veritas that they did receive a “mental health call,” and responded to Vorhies’ address that day.

    “Google Snowden moment”

    Project Veritas has released hundreds of internal Google documents leaked by Vorhies. Among those documents is a file called “news black list site for google now.” The document, according to Vorhies, is a “black list,” which
    restricts certain
    websites from appearing on news feeds for an Android Google product. The list includes conservative and progressive websites, such as newsbusters.org and mediamatters.org. The document says that some sites are listed with or because of a “high user
    block rate.”

    Another newly published document titled “Fringe ranking/classifer: Defining channel quality” lists an example ranking of various news sites, including CNN and FOX News. A document titled “Fake news & other fringe: Trashy recap” reveals that
    videos are rated by multiple “human raters.”

    One internal Google document labelled “coffee beans” appears to show Google
    employees discussing diversity hiring practices. A related internal thread of communications also shows an apparent discussion about the “coffee beans” document, where
    one Google employee expresses concern that the document appears to “misrepresent Google’s hiring practices in a way that could raise legal questions…”

    Another thread of internal Google documents shows Google employees discussing President Donald Trump’s infamous “covfefe” tweet, and a proposed plan to
    change the Google translation of the term.

    “You’re going to be a hero”

    Vorhies told Project Veritas that he hopes more insiders at Google decide to go
    public and discuss big tech abuses.

    “My message to those that are on the fence is I released the documents. They can go in, they can see everything that Google is doing and then they can see the scale of it. Because I think that there’s a lot of engineers that have a hint that
    things are wrong, but they don’t understand the colossal scale that it’s at. And so for those people, I say, look at the documents, take the pulse of America, see what’s happening and come and tell the world you know what you already know to be
    true.”

    (Big tech insiders can reach out to Project Veritas here to help expose similar
    newsworthy wrongdoing.)

    Project Veritas requested comment from Google on this story but did not receive
    a response at the time of this publication.

    Leaked documents

    Below is an index of internal Google documents Project Veritas received from the Google insider. Each folder can be downloaded by clicking on the links in the table. Project Veritas has not re-named any of the files, but did arrange the documents into
    the downloadable folders below.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 18:20:44
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)

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  • From egoputon@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 15, 2019 18:08:47
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    who's going down on you Slider?

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Friday, August 16, 2019 07:01:49
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 4:27:29 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    who's going down on you Slider?

    ### - no one recently that's for sure haha...

    ahhh those halcyon days lol :)))

    https://youtu.be/QPXmBymFsRY?t=50


    The present "Cancel Culture" would be all over Hicks.
    It's getting so the only safe comedian is a dead comedian.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Friday, August 16, 2019 06:58:58
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:22:17 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)

    Power corrupts Bro.
    Absolute power is Lucifer's most potent nectar.

    Misnderstanding cause and effect relationships.
    Thinking you can change one thing without starting an avalanche.

    Here's a cool video on dimensions interacting. Watching it a second time.

    Cover the Hopf 720 Spinor.
    https://youtu.be/X9JLij1obHY?t=3025

    How points create lines.
    How lines create circles and spheres.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 16, 2019 09:25:54
    From: slider@anashram.com

    who's going down on you Slider?

    ### - no one recently that's for sure haha...

    ahhh those halcyon days lol :)))

    https://youtu.be/QPXmBymFsRY?t=50

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 16, 2019 15:16:23
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 15:01:49 +0100, LowRider44M <intraphase@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 4:27:29 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    who's going down on you Slider?

    ### - no one recently that's for sure haha...

    ahhh those halcyon days lol :)))

    https://youtu.be/QPXmBymFsRY?t=50


    The present "Cancel Culture" would be all over Hicks.
    It's getting so the only safe comedian is a dead comedian.

    ### - oh they rubbed him out for sure, he was far too successful!

    people were starting to listen to him!

    note: anyone who openly speaks truth in wallyworld is automatically rubbed
    out, and/or is nailed to the nearest tree as an example...

    we have such quaint traditions & customs on this dumb planet heh :D

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 16, 2019 07:05:38
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    The Spinor Bit
    https://youtu.be/X9JLij1obHY?t=3906

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 16, 2019 15:28:33
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:58:58 +0100, LowRider44M <intraphase@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:22:17 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)

    Power corrupts Bro.
    Absolute power is Lucifer's most potent nectar.

    ### - that's total bs as far as i'm concerned, power corrupts yes but is
    more to do with man's total greed than anything else...

    note: i actually used to feel sorry for the poor old devil hehe, i mean
    here was god's brightest & best, someone given sooo much autonomy he was actually on a par with god himself, who apparently then used his position
    to give the fire of mind to mankind out of compassion for them, and who
    has literally been demonised for that ever since?

    and then one day, still feeling quite sad for him, i came across something
    in a book about the various types of angels etc, that suggested that he
    was actually given (by god) a very difficult job to perform and who will
    then be later fully reinstated when his work is complete...

    and i immediately felt better! :)

    and the moral of the story is: Don't believe every fuckin' thing ya read ;)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Sunday, August 25, 2019 07:15:33
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, August 16, 2019 at 10:30:08 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:58:58 +0100, LowRider44M <@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:22:17 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)

    Power corrupts Bro.
    Absolute power is Lucifer's most potent nectar.

    ### - that's total bs as far as i'm concerned, power corrupts yes but is more to do with man's total greed than anything else...

    note: i actually used to feel sorry for the poor old devil hehe, i mean here was god's brightest & best, someone given sooo much autonomy he was actually on a par with god himself, who apparently then used his position to give the fire of mind to mankind out of compassion for them, and who
    has literally been demonised for that ever since?

    Theologians dispute the compassion aspect claiming it was motivated
    by a need for self glorification, to rival the godform.


    and then one day, still feeling quite sad for him, i came across something in a book about the various types of angels etc, that suggested that he
    was actually given (by god) a very difficult job to perform and who will then be later fully reinstated when his work is complete...

    and i immediately felt better! :)

    and the moral of the story is: Don't believe every fuckin' thing ya read ;)

    Hehehe

    I use a standard literary table;

    Devil = Confronts to restore vision or truth seeing
    Satan = Declares war to restore momentum or truth appreciation
    Lucifer = Confronts aftermath (Prodigal Son equation) to restore thought forms.

    There are very few Lucifer stories in literature because the:
    Restore vision, restore momentum, restore critical thinking progression
    is to complex a progression for most writers. They stick to Devil-Satan archtypes. Jesus claims to be the morning Star at least once in the Bible.

    The word Lucifer is only used once and Satan is used 55-times hence
    blues legends of Ole 55.

    If the Bible is a book of riddles the end of the quest journey from
    Eden to Paradise is The Five Trees. In Eden before the fall their
    are two trees Knowledge and Life. After the fall it takes Five Trees
    to restore Paradise.

    Story Table

    Life = Animal Kingdom (Birth)
    Knowledge = Human Kingdom (Temptation)
    Truth = Law Kingdom (Reconciliation)
    Time = Eternal Kingdom (Reconstruction)
    Mastery = Infinite Kingdom (A Stable Domicile)

    Hence; mastering all dimensions from Zero to Infinite with
    a compact five level set of equations that can utilize the
    indestructable qualities called eternals and the unmeasurable
    qualities called infinites is to construct a Paradise/Sanctuary
    and grow the Five Trees from the table above. In essence: a kernel,
    an operating system, and a series of programs to maintain momentum
    and motion in interlocking balances until the next system failre occurs.

    An endless series of cacoons and butterflies.

    19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being
    before coming into being.

    If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings,
    these stones will serve you.

    For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not
    change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever
    knows them will not taste death."


    [] In worlds realms commanded and sculpted by thought (balance equations)

    You have to read this to the end to have it
    said differently, but contradictorially "the form of formlessness"

    The Father, in accordance with his exalted position over the Totalities, being an unknown and incomprehensible one, has such greatness and magnitude, that, if
    he had revealed himself suddenly, quickly, to all the exalted ones among the aeons who had come
    forth from him, they would have perished. Therefore, he withheld his power and his inexhaustibility within that in which he is. He is ineffable and unnameable
    and exalted above every mind and every word. This
    one, however, stretched himself out and it was that which he stretched out which gave a foundation and a space and a dwelling place for the universe, a name of his being "the one through whom," since he is Father of the All, out of
    his laboring for those
    who exist, having sown into their thought that they might seek after him. The abundance of their [...] consists in the fact
    that they understand that he exists and in the fact that they ask what it is that was existing. This one was given to them for enjoyment and nourishment and
    joy and an abundance of illumination, which consists in his fellow laboring, his knowledge and
    his mingling with them, that is, the one who is called and is, in fact, the Son, since he is the Totalities and the one of whom they know both
    who he is and that it is he who clothes. This is the one who is called "Son" and the one of whom they understand that he exists and they were seeking after him. This is the one who exists as Father and (as) the one about whom they cannot speak, and the
    one of whom they do not conceive. This is the one who first came into being.

    It is impossible for anyone to conceive of him or think of him. Or can anyone approach there, toward the exalted one, toward the preexistent in the proper sense? But all the names conceived or spoken about him are presented in honor, as a trace of him,
    according to the ability of each one of those who glorify him. Now he who arose
    from him when he stretched himself out for begetting
    and for knowledge on the part of the Totalities, he [...] all of the names, without falsification, and he is, in the proper sense, the sole first one, the man of the Father, that is, the one whom I call the form of the formless,

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Sunday, August 25, 2019 08:15:54
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, August 14, 2019 at 1:22:17 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)


    The funny bit in the ironic sense is that Google got it's start
    and cut it's baby teeth archiving Usenet as a changing database
    to explore and learn functionality(s) with in 1995. Web crawlers
    don't start until 1998 and there were many at first.

    So if the seeds of Googles destruction are hidden they are hidden
    here on Usenet the original kernel they swallowed.

    Google is a three level operating system Life-Knowledge-Truth
    missing any sense of The Eternal-The Infinite as Time & Mastery.

    They crush and censor quirky voices and have hardened into systemic error.

    A Failed Godform, that could not balance Chaos and Order.

    This kid (16) got banned. A no growth, no quirks policy statement.

    Sophia aka Lt. Corbis
    https://www.bitchute.com/channel/soph/
    Her defunct youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT7BLBDnD-wEXeqZSg24aJw/videos

    Youtube as a Google subsidiary failed the God (Turing) test.
    True Godforms must tolerate Saints and Serial Killers with equal aplomb.
    It is the only way to know the current system is stable (cacoon) and
    that it shall produce and even more robust system (butterfly)

    What Godforms say:
    "You have a right to kill me, but no right to judge me." https://youtu.be/mPPGMNOLaMw?t=167

    Best: Godform, Devil, Satan, Lucifer, New Godform; movie is 2001 in IMO.
    Start
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou6JNQwPWE0
    Hands of the Lightbringer(Lucifer) try to stop him. https://youtu.be/ou6JNQwPWE0?t=63

    In a game of creation from and across Zero to Infinite dimensions
    at some point the systems author would be on the 3rd & 4th dimension.
    Somehow, mysteriously we are all trapped in a quest: as a competition
    to become the most competitive Godform Equation similar to 2010 Space Odyssey.

    The Old Godform - Cocoon
    https://youtu.be/Y8hu9N-Kz3I?t=49

    The Old System - Breaks
    https://youtu.be/oALxLNOhI6I?t=104

    The New Godform - Butterfly
    https://youtu.be/38EDhpxzn2g?t=114

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, August 26, 2019 14:24:34
    From: slider@atashram.com

    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)

    Power corrupts Bro.
    Absolute power is Lucifer's most potent nectar.

    ### - that's total bs as far as i'm concerned, power corrupts yes but is
    more to do with man's total greed than anything else...

    note: i actually used to feel sorry for the poor old devil hehe, i mean
    here was god's brightest & best, someone given sooo much autonomy he was
    actually on a par with god himself, who apparently then used his
    position
    to give the fire of mind to mankind out of compassion for them, and who
    has literally been demonised for that ever since?

    Theologians dispute the compassion aspect claiming it was motivated
    by a need for self glorification, to rival the godform.

    ### - in the greek version Prometheus stole fire from the gods and gave it
    to man out of compassion (and boy did he get into trouble for that or
    wot?? LOL, and until rescued by Hercules apparently)




    and then one day, still feeling quite sad for him, i came across
    something
    in a book about the various types of angels etc, that suggested that he
    was actually given (by god) a very difficult job to perform and who will
    then be later fully reinstated when his work is complete...

    and i immediately felt better! :)

    and the moral of the story is: Don't believe every fuckin' thing ya
    read ;)

    Hehehe

    I use a standard literary table;

    Devil = Confronts to restore vision or truth seeing
    Satan = Declares war to restore momentum or truth appreciation
    Lucifer = Confronts aftermath (Prodigal Son equation) to restore thought forms.

    There are very few Lucifer stories in literature because the:
    Restore vision, restore momentum, restore critical thinking progression
    is to complex a progression for most writers. They stick to Devil-Satan archtypes. Jesus claims to be the morning Star at least once in the
    Bible.

    The word Lucifer is only used once and Satan is used 55-times hence
    blues legends of Ole 55.

    If the Bible is a book of riddles the end of the quest journey from
    Eden to Paradise is The Five Trees. In Eden before the fall their
    are two trees Knowledge and Life. After the fall it takes Five Trees
    to restore Paradise.

    Story Table

    Life = Animal Kingdom (Birth)
    Knowledge = Human Kingdom (Temptation)
    Truth = Law Kingdom (Reconciliation)
    Time = Eternal Kingdom (Reconstruction)
    Mastery = Infinite Kingdom (A Stable Domicile)

    Hence; mastering all dimensions from Zero to Infinite with
    a compact five level set of equations that can utilize the
    indestructable qualities called eternals and the unmeasurable
    qualities called infinites is to construct a Paradise/Sanctuary
    and grow the Five Trees from the table above. In essence: a kernel,
    an operating system, and a series of programs to maintain momentum
    and motion in interlocking balances until the next system failre occurs.

    An endless series of cacoons and butterflies.

    19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being
    before coming into being.

    If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings,
    these stones will serve you.

    For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not
    change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall. Whoever
    knows them will not taste death."


    [] In worlds realms commanded and sculpted by thought (balance equations)

    You have to read this to the end to have it
    said differently, but contradictorially "the form of formlessness"

    The Father, in accordance with his exalted position over the Totalities, being an unknown and incomprehensible one, has such greatness and
    magnitude, that, if he had revealed himself suddenly, quickly, to all
    the exalted ones among the aeons who had come forth from him, they would
    have perished. Therefore, he withheld his power and his inexhaustibility within that in which he is. He is ineffable and unnameable and exalted
    above every mind and every word. This
    one, however, stretched himself out and it was that which he stretched
    out which gave a foundation and a space and a dwelling place for the universe, a name of his being "the one through whom," since he is Father
    of the All, out of his laboring for those who exist, having sown into
    their thought that they might seek after him. The abundance of their
    [...] consists in the fact
    that they understand that he exists and in the fact that they ask what
    it is that was existing. This one was given to them for enjoyment and nourishment and joy and an abundance of illumination, which consists in
    his fellow laboring, his knowledge and his mingling with them, that is,
    the one who is called and is, in fact, the Son, since he is the
    Totalities and the one of whom they know both
    who he is and that it is he who clothes. This is the one who is called
    "Son" and the one of whom they understand that he exists and they were seeking after him. This is the one who exists as Father and (as) the one about whom they cannot speak, and the one of whom they do not conceive.
    This is the one who first came into being.

    It is impossible for anyone to conceive of him or think of him. Or can
    anyone approach there, toward the exalted one, toward the preexistent in
    the proper sense? But all the names conceived or spoken about him are presented in honor, as a trace of him, according to the ability of each
    one of those who glorify him. Now he who arose from him when he
    stretched himself out for begetting
    and for knowledge on the part of the Totalities, he [...] all of the
    names, without falsification, and he is, in the proper sense, the sole
    first one, the man of the Father, that is, the one whom I call the form
    of the formless,

    ### - i don't trust the theologians anymore than i trust the scientists
    heh, the latter selling us a meager 4% as whole-some 'Truth' when it's
    nada of the kind! their other 96% blank spaces conveniently filled-in with sheer bunkum, bs and make-believe + if jc came back today those very same learned theologians would likely deny him because he doesn't 'fit-into'
    their conceptualised ideas about what he *should* be like & do? and then
    nail him up when he denounces them 'again' as being only a nest of
    poisonous vipers! one's who guard the gate and don't enter therein
    themselves + stop everyone else from going in there too! (so ok, go
    accusing the pope of that and see what happens huh...)

    lol i wouldn't give ya tuppence for the lot of 'em! ;)

    unholy priests and unholy churches masquerading as saviours?

    and that includes the scientists now doing exactly the same thing too??

    puffed up little pricks the lot of 'em lol :)))

    (imho, they ALL need to learn to WILD and thus see what's *really* going
    down on planet wallyworld hehehe) ;)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, August 26, 2019 13:57:14
    From: slider@anashram.com

    LowRider wrote...

    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)


    The funny bit in the ironic sense is that Google got it's start
    and cut it's baby teeth archiving Usenet as a changing database
    to explore and learn functionality(s) with in 1995. Web crawlers
    don't start until 1998 and there were many at first.

    So if the seeds of Googles destruction are hidden they are hidden
    here on Usenet the original kernel they swallowed.

    Google is a three level operating system Life-Knowledge-Truth
    missing any sense of The Eternal-The Infinite as Time & Mastery.

    They crush and censor quirky voices and have hardened into systemic
    error.

    A Failed Godform, that could not balance Chaos and Order.

    This kid (16) got banned. A no growth, no quirks policy statement.

    Sophia aka Lt. Corbis
    https://www.bitchute.com/channel/soph/
    Her defunct youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT7BLBDnD-wEXeqZSg24aJw/videos

    Youtube as a Google subsidiary failed the God (Turing) test.
    True Godforms must tolerate Saints and Serial Killers with equal aplomb.
    It is the only way to know the current system is stable (cacoon) and
    that it shall produce and even more robust system (butterfly)

    What Godforms say:
    "You have a right to kill me, but no right to judge me." https://youtu.be/mPPGMNOLaMw?t=167

    Best: Godform, Devil, Satan, Lucifer, New Godform; movie is 2001 in IMO. Start
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou6JNQwPWE0
    Hands of the Lightbringer(Lucifer) try to stop him. https://youtu.be/ou6JNQwPWE0?t=63

    In a game of creation from and across Zero to Infinite dimensions
    at some point the systems author would be on the 3rd & 4th dimension. Somehow, mysteriously we are all trapped in a quest: as a competition
    to become the most competitive Godform Equation similar to 2010 Space Odyssey.

    The Old Godform - Cocoon
    https://youtu.be/Y8hu9N-Kz3I?t=49

    The Old System - Breaks
    https://youtu.be/oALxLNOhI6I?t=104

    The New Godform - Butterfly
    https://youtu.be/38EDhpxzn2g?t=114

    ### - it's doubtful that anyone could own such a huge company and not
    become corrupted in the process, oh it maybe starts out all innocent
    enough but as soon as it starts really earning money and/or becoming
    seriously influential, the big-boys (including governments) wanna get-in
    on the act, google itself may have even been expressly selected for the
    job (well 'someone' has to be the biggest search engine huh, so why not
    you guys! now here's what we're gonna do for ya's lads, okaaay?)

    or, having become so genuinely big, maybe they didn't wanna play-ball and they're now being taken-down, who knows!

    methinks bill gates prolly got the same treatment; erm, bill! ffs bill you earning so much fuckin' moola you're creating a dynasty?? can't allow that
    bill am afraid, the old money all says no and much prefers things the way
    they are, sorry bill... oh you can remain as the very wealthy figurehead,
    if ya want heh, but we gots to cap yo' ass in the financial dept see! a
    limit set to what you can pass-on, and everything above that cap has to go
    to charity ok bill? and if ya have to erm, sometimes slip a few
    questionable algorithms into your systems occasionally, well, that's just
    the way it is bub and we wont say anything more about it, and 'coz we own
    yo' ass anyway and we already have plenty other empires to fight and don't
    need no new ones!

    so is that really the devil do ya think?

    or just a bunch of human lameo empire-building shit we could all do
    without!

    in that parallel world i visited (am really beginning to think it really
    was a parallel world heh) they'd apparently sussed it all out, there was
    no money only barter, a nice balance of technology and living conditions, everyone looked well and seemed happy + food was piled high everywhere ya looked, an almost idyllic society apart from the fact that they've never
    even heard of music or singing??

    oh well nada's perfect then huh hehe, even utopia apparently! ;)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Friday, August 30, 2019 17:25:50
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 8:58:58 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    LowRider wrote...

    ### - so google's goin' down then huh...

    in which case might be worth buying shares in bing? ;)


    The funny bit in the ironic sense is that Google got it's start
    and cut it's baby teeth archiving Usenet as a changing database
    to explore and learn functionality(s) with in 1995. Web crawlers
    don't start until 1998 and there were many at first.

    So if the seeds of Googles destruction are hidden they are hidden
    here on Usenet the original kernel they swallowed.

    Google is a three level operating system Life-Knowledge-Truth
    missing any sense of The Eternal-The Infinite as Time & Mastery.

    They crush and censor quirky voices and have hardened into systemic
    error.

    A Failed Godform, that could not balance Chaos and Order.

    This kid (16) got banned. A no growth, no quirks policy statement.

    Sophia aka Lt. Corbis
    https://www.bitchute.com/channel/soph/
    Her defunct youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCT7BLBDnD-wEXeqZSg24aJw/videos

    Youtube as a Google subsidiary failed the God (Turing) test.
    True Godforms must tolerate Saints and Serial Killers with equal aplomb.
    It is the only way to know the current system is stable (cacoon) and
    that it shall produce and even more robust system (butterfly)

    What Godforms say:
    "You have a right to kill me, but no right to judge me." https://youtu.be/mPPGMNOLaMw?t=167

    Best: Godform, Devil, Satan, Lucifer, New Godform; movie is 2001 in IMO. Start
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou6JNQwPWE0
    Hands of the Lightbringer(Lucifer) try to stop him. https://youtu.be/ou6JNQwPWE0?t=63

    In a game of creation from and across Zero to Infinite dimensions
    at some point the systems author would be on the 3rd & 4th dimension. Somehow, mysteriously we are all trapped in a quest: as a competition
    to become the most competitive Godform Equation similar to 2010 Space Odyssey.

    The Old Godform - Cocoon
    https://youtu.be/Y8hu9N-Kz3I?t=49

    The Old System - Breaks
    https://youtu.be/oALxLNOhI6I?t=104

    The New Godform - Butterfly
    https://youtu.be/38EDhpxzn2g?t=114

    ### - it's doubtful that anyone could own such a huge company and not
    become corrupted in the process, oh it maybe starts out all innocent
    enough but as soon as it starts really earning money and/or becoming seriously influential, the big-boys (including governments) wanna get-in
    on the act, google itself may have even been expressly selected for the
    job

    The general consensus is Facebook, Google and Youtube are CIA from
    their inception to the present moment. We got on the net early here
    and know the value of privacy.

    (well 'someone' has to be the biggest search engine huh, so why not
    you guys! now here's what we're gonna do for ya's lads, okaaay?)


    It killed all the other search engines, like a super bacteria.
    It is wiping out anyone it chooses by deplatforming and demonetizing.
    If a person has a dedicated enemy-stalker, they can sift your cyber
    history and weaponize it.

    or, having become so genuinely big, maybe they didn't wanna play-ball and they're now being taken-down, who knows!


    We are in a revolution here and it could swing either way. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1167435552234311681/video/1
    That's a democrat CIA officer sounding the alarm to rally
    to the law and founding principles before a meteor puts us out of
    our collective misery (<<hyperbole) ;-]

    methinks bill gates prolly got the same treatment; erm, bill! ffs bill you earning so much fuckin' moola you're creating a dynasty?? can't allow that bill am afraid, the old money all says no and much prefers things the way they are, sorry bill... oh you can remain as the very wealthy figurehead,
    if ya want heh, but we gots to cap yo' ass in the financial dept see! a
    limit set to what you can pass-on,

    Bill is CIA. They all serve as our "Shadow Government"

    and everything above that cap has to go
    to charity ok bill? and if ya have to erm, sometimes slip a few
    questionable algorithms into your systems occasionally, well, that's just
    the way it is bub and we wont say anything more about it, and 'coz we own
    yo' ass anyway and we already have plenty other empires to fight and don't need no new ones!

    I'll subscribe to that descriptive.


    so is that really the devil do ya think?

    or just a bunch of human lameo empire-building shit we could all do
    without!


    There to!! AMEN Brother pass me some poison snakes and lets war dance.

    in that parallel world i visited (am really beginning to think it really
    was a parallel world heh) they'd apparently sussed it all out, there was
    no money only barter, a nice balance of technology and living conditions, everyone looked well and seemed happy

    A higher dimensional stronghold.
    You have to resonate with it to find it.
    The cosmos is a boat sailing on a ocean.
    The clouds above are floating cities of consciousness.

    + food was piled high everywhere ya
    looked, an almost idyllic society apart from the fact that they've never
    even heard of music or singing??


    I could grasp that on the abstract level of output-input loops.
    A world based on music would require content, or a body of work.
    That's how John and Bob discovered "experienced" the lowest dimensions.
    If you generate enough content that is absorbed and quantified by
    other beings the process that maintains time becomes very obvious.
    It's always "representational" so equations become tableaus, scenarios
    and landscapes. My two dreams of you were very 0D-1D-2D lower dimensional Mostly dark with each being emitting subtle ambient light in a 10-30 foot radius. Very memorable, the Slider's pub dream was a long basement
    bar with a hundred seats. A pre echo as 0-1-2D anticipated your content creation phase and alloted resources. Everyone but you and me was
    in drag and transexual because the question of each identity pattern
    was undecided. At the time I just shrugged, but the answer to every riddle arrives in it's own time. Only information and processes exist
    as fundamental components transiting uncountable mediums, textures
    and dimensions formed by information transfer speed variations from
    slow almost glacial geometries to instantaneous. Content is king.

    A rare clip
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2PACowYrnY
    Elton & Lennon live version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoupFtYQj8s


    oh well nada's perfect then huh hehe, even utopia apparently! ;)

    This used to be heaven, then the totality arrives and has
    to be accomodated. I hope I never get run over by this boat
    while I'm floating on my back dreaming staring outward.

    Number Nine - Ode To John(joy)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fQG4CcoRuM

    "I'm actually in Balance" ... "Eldorado" ... "Take this brother..." https://youtu.be/SNdcFPjGsm8?t=394

    One for Sheriff Bob (a bad ass cosmic lament)
    I think he stole this one from me - it was that good(the apple in paradise) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hO-83CIVKM

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 30, 2019 17:39:09
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Ode to Joy - Schiller

    Joy, beautiful spark of Divinity ,
    Daughter of Elysium,
    We enter, drunk with fire,
    Heavenly One, thy sanctuary!
    Your magic binds again
    What custom strictly divided;*
    All people become brothers,*
    Where your gentle wing abides.

    Who has succeeded in the great attempt,
    To be a friend's friend,
    Whoever has won a lovely woman,
    Add his to the jubilation!
    Indeed, who even just has one soul
    To call his own in this world!
    And who never managed it should slink
    Weeping from this union!

    All creatures drink of joy
    At nature's breasts.
    All the Just, all the Evil
    Follow her trail of roses.
    Kisses she gave us and grapevines,
    A friend, proven in death.
    Salaciousness was given to the worm
    And the cherub stands before God.

    Gladly, as His suns fly
    through the heavens' grand plan
    Go on, brothers, your way,
    Joyful, like a hero to victory.

    Be embraced, Millions!
    This kiss to all the world!
    Brothers, above the starry canopy
    There must dwell a loving Father.
    Are you collapsing, millions?
    Do you sense the creator, world?
    Seek him above the starry canopy!
    Above stars must He dwell.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 17:37:19
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Election 2020: Will America Be the New China?
    By Roger L. Simon September 1, 2019
    chat 406 comments
    "Chairman Mao is the Red Sun in Our Hearts," People's Republic of China, 1968. (via Wikipedia)

    As brave Hong Kongers protest the totalitarian communist Chinese regime in the streets and at the airport of their city, the mood here in the West, even in the United States, seems to be going in the opposite direction.

    I'm not just referring to the violent so-called anarchists of Antifa, who often
    turn out to be emotionally disturbed community college instructors behind their
    Guy Fawkes masks, but to the larger zeitgeist. From Big Tech to Hollywood to our media to our
    campuses to the campaign rhetoric of virtually every Democratic candidate, we are moving toward a homogenization of thought and action that is, well, Chinese
    communist in style and ultimately in content.

    Chairman Mao said, "Let a hundred schools of thought contend," knowing full well whose would prevail. We're no longer even paying that kind of lip service.
    Some form of political correctness has dominated our major institutions for years with minimal
    pushback.

    Except for the election of Donald Trump, which was considered a horrifying aberration by our elites. How could such a vulgarian rise to such power? (No matter that they themselves were equally, if not more, reprehensible, as the Epstein revelations
    demonstrate.)

    Because Trump's policies were often arguably good and sometimes even conventionally so, attacks on him concentrated on his personality. That was especially true because his very persona upended that unifying and totalitarian
    (what else?) impulse toward
    political correctness.

    So an American Cultural Revolution—not that distant from the original Chinese
    one, except so far no dunce caps—has been put in place by those various elites of the Academic-Hollywood-Media Complex. Actually, it's been in place for a long time; only
    now it is escalating and approaching a point of no return.

    Writers and thinkers are ghettoized. Only approved Republican pundits are allowed space, at least for long, in mainstream newspapers or television shows.
    The arts have become almost entirely off-limits to the right. Conservative professors are an
    endangered species at our universities, if not already extinct.

    That is why it is no accident that you see Democrat proposals on the 2020 campaign trail that could have been taken from Lenin's playbook. They are just part of this metastasizing zeitgeist. That these ideas have failed over and over is of no consequence.
    They sound good.

    Don't look at China or the Soviet Union or Cambodia or Cuba or Venezuela or North Korea or the entire Eastern Bloc when it was communist, not to mention Angola, Mozambique, and Ethiopia plus many others that all flirted with socialism/communism uniformly
    to disastrous ends. Look at Denmark! And please ignore that that extremely homogeneous country has a tiny population roughly half the size Los Angeles County's and that they have been becoming less socialist themselves in their actual policies. We can
    use the land of Hans Christian Anderson as our model.

    But the sad truth is we are already halfway to our Chinese-ification. Google, et al., have done it for us. Chairman Mao could never have dreamed of their success. To the Great Helmsman, power, as he wrote in the Little Red Book, stemmed from the barrel
    of a gun. How first half of the 20th century of him. Power these days begins with the click of a search engine. Without our even being aware of it, we are being told what to think. We already have "social credit scores," just like our
    Chinese brothers
    and sisters. It's practically over. Caught between Google—the super-government—and our own all-seeing secular government, the citizen as an
    individual is vanishing.

    Apocalyptic as it may sound, if you love freedom, election 2020 is becoming the
    last chance to stem the tide. I hate to place my hopes in the Great Vulgarian—or in any single man or woman for that matter—but at this point, there is no alternative,
    not even remotely. In any case, judging a politician by his or her personality is a boring and subjective enterprise. With Western civilization in the balance, voting against a candidate because you think a tweet is crude is nothing short of idiotic.

    Meanwhile...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, September 04, 2019 19:27:36
    From: slider@anashram.com

    LowRider wrote...

    But the sad truth is we are already halfway to our Chinese-ification.
    Google, et al., have done it for us. Chairman Mao could never have
    dreamed of their success. To the Great Helmsman, power, as he wrote in
    the Little Red Book, stemmed from the barrel of a gun. How first half of
    the 20th century of him. Power these days begins with the click of a
    search engine. Without our even being aware of it, we are being told
    what to think. We already have "social credit scores," just like our
    Chinese brothers and sisters. It's practically over. Caught between Google—the super-government—and our own all-seeing secular government, the citizen as an individual is vanishing.

    ### - this is really nothing new + it's got nada to do with china or
    russia, or even communism, that's all just a scapegoat...

    and because, in truth, it's actually been going on for a very long time, a
    very long, slow decline over 100's of years that many have duly noticed &
    noted

    only no one wants to fuckin' listen to them of course hah, people's total 'investment' in it perforce precludes considering doing anything different
    now + also leaves them with too little imagination as to considering
    anything different; we're painted into a corner & locked into it come what
    may, and that's not new! it's just getting tighter now is all...

    this, for example, was made/stated in 1976! (says it all really) 43 years
    ago?? and it was old then!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM

    iow: capitalism is doomed to collapse; it's unsustainable! period! it only
    goes so far!

    as does communism ultimately too! so that's really not the problem nor
    issue!

    so then, do we just continue to ride this doomed train all the way down to
    its miserable end? are we really that stubborn??

    or do we perhaps use our intelligence for once to 'forestall' such an eventuality and instead try implementing something perhaps a little more radical & imaginative in political terms; such as nelson mandela actually helped put into action for example?

    e.g., the best minds from both left & right need to come together to form something new, new enough to take us beyond the problems caused & created
    by the former split-system...

    the precedents are there for it, not only with mandela's actual example of resolving a deadly + ultimately fatal political impasse, but also with
    england at the beginning of the second world war wherein churchill
    selected members for his war-time cabinet from 'both' left and the right parties in an unbiased: 'just the best person for the job' type scenario,
    and which worked btw! after the war was over we then however reverted back
    to the old split ways, duh... but there it actually was, a working example
    in action for a moment!

    i.e., we are now in the 21st century, and we need 21st century ideas to
    resolve all the now unresolvable problems created by 20th century
    thinking, the old way of thinking for sure brought us to this point of
    high advancement, but we need new thinking now to escape/transcend the
    clearly disastrous results of it if/when it's pursued to its conclusion...

    think of it this way; that if mandela hadn't done what he did, white south africa would have been forced to nuke black south africa and there
    wouldn't even 'be' a south africa today? at least not any recognisable one anyway! plus this is precisely what's gonna happen to us too unless we get ahead of the curve! it's basically the same system!

    it literally all came down to the wire in s.africa, it really came 'that'
    close to complete disaster! but imho we shouldn't leave it that long and
    should thus act sooner rather than later, s.africa already has this
    in-place albeit only in embryonic form, and so they're really struggling
    with it too! but the 'principles' of it are correct, and so maybe we could start there by helping them to actually implement it more effectively and
    in fact, and then, in the process, we'd maybe learn from doing that how to perhaps more correctly implement all that for ourselves too, and/or at
    least then perhaps see our way more clearly to actually doing so?

    after all, we gots to start somewhere innit eh? ;)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Monday, September 09, 2019 17:30:45
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    LowRider wrote...

    But the sad truth is we are already halfway to our Chinese-ification. Google, et al., have done it for us. Chairman Mao could never have dreamed of their success. To the Great Helmsman, power, as he wrote in the Little Red Book, stemmed from the barrel of a gun. How first half of the 20th century of him. Power these days begins with the click of a search engine. Without our even being aware of it, we are being told
    what to think. We already have "social credit scores," just like our Chinese brothers and sisters. It's practically over. Caught between Google—the super-government—and our own all-seeing secular government,

    the citizen as an individual is vanishing.

    ### - this is really nothing new + it's got nada to do with china or russia, or even communism, that's all just a scapegoat...

    and because, in truth, it's actually been going on for a very long time, a very long, slow decline over 100's of years that many have duly noticed & noted

    only no one wants to fuckin' listen to them of course hah, people's total 'investment' in it perforce precludes considering doing anything different now + also leaves them with too little imagination as to considering anything different; we're painted into a corner & locked into it come what may, and that's not new! it's just getting tighter now is all...

    this, for example, was made/stated in 1976! (says it all really) 43 years ago?? and it was old then!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM

    iow: capitalism is doomed to collapse; it's unsustainable! period! it only goes so far!

    as does communism ultimately too! so that's really not the problem nor issue!

    so then, do we just continue to ride this doomed train all the way down to its miserable end? are we really that stubborn??

    or do we perhaps use our intelligence for once to 'forestall' such an eventuality and instead try implementing something perhaps a little more radical & imaginative in political terms; such as nelson mandela actually helped put into action for example?

    e.g., the best minds from both left & right need to come together to form something new, new enough to take us beyond the problems caused & created by the former split-system...

    the precedents are there for it, not only with mandela's actual example of resolving a deadly + ultimately fatal political impasse, but also with england at the beginning of the second world war wherein churchill
    selected members for his war-time cabinet from 'both' left and the right parties in an unbiased: 'just the best person for the job' type scenario, and which worked btw! after the war was over we then however reverted back to the old split ways, duh... but there it actually was, a working example in action for a moment!

    i.e., we are now in the 21st century, and we need 21st century ideas to resolve all the now unresolvable problems created by 20th century
    thinking, the old way of thinking for sure brought us to this point of
    high advancement, but we need new thinking now to escape/transcend the clearly disastrous results of it if/when it's pursued to its conclusion...

    think of it this way; that if mandela hadn't done what he did, white south africa would have been forced to nuke black south africa and there
    wouldn't even 'be' a south africa today? at least not any recognisable one anyway! plus this is precisely what's gonna happen to us too unless we get ahead of the curve! it's basically the same system!

    it literally all came down to the wire in s.africa, it really came 'that' close to complete disaster! but imho we shouldn't leave it that long and should thus act sooner rather than later, s.africa already has this in-place albeit only in embryonic form, and so they're really struggling with it too! but the 'principles' of it are correct, and so maybe we could start there by helping them to actually implement it more effectively and in fact, and then, in the process, we'd maybe learn from doing that how to perhaps more correctly implement all that for ourselves too, and/or at least then perhaps see our way more clearly to actually doing so?

    after all, we gots to start somewhere innit eh? ;)




    Here to read ^^^^ the above. & An update on Googles demise.

    Google faces a new antitrust probe by 50 attorneys general

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/09/09/texas-attorney-general-leads-google-antitrust-probe.html

    Texas will lead a joint state investigation into Google over antitrust concerns, state Attorney General Ken Paxton announces Monday.
    The news follows the announcement of a joint state Facebook probe led by the attorney general of New York.
    Google is also reportedly facing an antitrust probe from the U.S. Department of Justice.

    Fifty attorneys general are joining an investigation into Google over possible antitrust violations, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, the initiative’s leader, announced Monday.

    The news confirms reports last week about the bipartisan investigation into Google’s practices. The probe includes attorneys general from 48 states, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico. California and Alabama are not involved in the probe, Paxton
    said at a press conference.

    Other attorneys general at the media conference emphasized Google’s dominance
    in the ad market and use of consumer data.

    “When there is no longer a free market or competition, this increases prices,
    even when something is marketed as free, and harms consumers,” said Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody, a Republican. “Is something really free if we are increasingly
    giving over our privacy information? Is something really free if online ad prices go up based on one company’s control?”

    An antitrust probe into Facebook was announced on Friday by New York Attorney General Letitia James, who will lead the case. Attorneys general from seven states plus the District of Columbia are participating in the Facebook investigation.

    At the press conference Monday, D.C. Attorney General Karl Racine, a Democrat, said it “remains to be seen” if the two probes will be “a coordinated expansion.”

    Shares of Google parent company Alphabet were down about 0.9% around the time of the announcement. When reached for comment, a Google spokesperson pointed to
    a company blog post published Friday where it acknowledged it had received requests for
    information from the Department of Justice about its business practices and expects “state attorneys general will ask similar questions.”

    “We have always worked constructively with regulators and we will continue to
    do so,” Google said in Friday’s post.

    The state investigations put an additional layer of pressure on both companies,
    which are already facing antitrust scrutiny on the federal level. Facebook confirmed an antitrust probe by the Federal Trade Commission in July after the agency slapped it
    with a $5 billion fine over its privacy practices. And the Department of Justice will conduct its own antitrust investigation into Google, according to The Wall Street Journal.

    The attorneys general involved in the Google probe said their investigation would remain independent from those of other areas of government.

    “The state attorneys general, they are an independent bunch,” Racine said. “And they can be quite tenacious. So I’m very confident that this bipartisan group is going to be led by the facts and not be swayed by any conclusion that may fall short,
    if you will, if it’s inconsistent with our facts, on the federal side. So we’re going to do what we think is right based on our investigation.”

    So far, regulatory action on the federal level has had a minimal impact on Big Tech. The FTC recently imposed fines on both Google and Facebook — over their
    handling of user data — that would be considered large by most standards but represented just
    a small fraction of their quarterly revenues.

    But antitrust, compared with privacy and consumer protection concerns, poses a more direct threat to these companies’ business models. If the federal or state probes find evidence of anti-competitive behavior at Google, for example,
    the company could
    be compelled to make its algorithms friendlier to rivals even if that eats at its own profits. It could also be forced to spin off entire business units, such as YouTube.

    Doug Peterson, Nebraska’s Republican attorney general, said he looks forward to working with the U.S. Justice Department as well as international authorities.

    “It really is significant the fact that you’ve got the U.K., France, Australia, the European Commission looking at this, all indicate that this is a
    significant issue,” Peterson said.

    The focus on Google and Facebook by the state attorneys general does not mean other tech giants such as Amazon and Apple will be free from scrutiny. Sources told the Journal last week that the investigations could expand to other companies.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Thursday, September 12, 2019 07:48:35
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Wednesday, September 4, 2019 at 2:29:25 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    LowRider wrote...

    But the sad truth is we are already halfway to our Chinese-ification. Google, et al., have done it for us. Chairman Mao could never have dreamed of their success. To the Great Helmsman, power, as he wrote in the Little Red Book, stemmed from the barrel of a gun. How first half of the 20th century of him. Power these days begins with the click of a search engine. Without our even being aware of it, we are being told
    what to think. We already have "social credit scores," just like our Chinese brothers and sisters. It's practically over. Caught between Google—the super-government—and our own all-seeing secular government,

    the citizen as an individual is vanishing.

    ### - this is really nothing new + it's got nada to do with china or russia, or even communism, that's all just a scapegoat...

    It's a long standing pattern, no argument there.
    Almost a permanent theme where the social order en masse
    expresses at large the conflict between the five level
    composite brain of the human individual.


    and because, in truth, it's actually been going on for a very long time, a very long, slow decline over 100's of years that many have duly noticed & noted


    Yeah, it's accelerated because of interconnectivity.

    only no one wants to fuckin' listen to them of course hah, people's total 'investment' in it perforce precludes considering doing anything different now + also leaves them with too little imagination as to considering anything different; we're painted into a corner & locked into it come what may, and that's not new! it's just getting tighter now is all...

    Good combination of metaphors.
    Nature shall rebel by protecting the iconoclasts and rebels
    to insure fundamental innovations occur and new complexities arise.


    this, for example, was made/stated in 1976! (says it all really) 43 years ago?? and it was old then!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM

    Bookmarked for study.
    Never analyzed it in depth, slowly.
    That bit is both "overture" and finale as symphonic "half close to full close."


    iow: capitalism is doomed to collapse; it's unsustainable! period! it only goes so far!

    as does communism ultimately too! so that's really not the problem nor issue!

    so then, do we just continue to ride this doomed train all the way down to its miserable end? are we really that stubborn??

    That's the open question, brother.


    or do we perhaps use our intelligence for once to 'forestall' such an eventuality and instead try implementing something perhaps a little more radical & imaginative in political terms; such as nelson mandela actually helped put into action for example?

    A truth and reconciliation era.
    The government here no longer promotes the ufo myths
    and has transitioned to logging and studying the 0-1-2 dimensional
    objects that bubble and percolate up to 3-4 dimensional reality
    as UAP unidentified aerial phenomenom.


    e.g., the best minds from both left & right need to come together to form something new, new enough to take us beyond the problems caused & created by the former split-system...


    Or at least stop treating each other like angry four year olds.

    the precedents are there for it, not only with mandela's actual example of resolving a deadly + ultimately fatal political impasse, but also with england at the beginning of the second world war wherein churchill
    selected members for his war-time cabinet from 'both' left and the right parties in an unbiased: 'just the best person for the job' type scenario, and which worked btw! after the war was over we then however reverted back to the old split ways, duh... but there it actually was, a working example in action for a moment!

    Above calls to mind the idea "Necessity is the mother of invention."
    Untill the problem is bad enough, long enough; a dedicated core
    group won't form to enlist everyone in a practical solution to a problem set.


    i.e., we are now in the 21st century, and we need 21st century ideas to resolve all the now unresolvable problems created by 20th century
    thinking, the old way of thinking for sure brought us to this point of
    high advancement, but we need new thinking now to escape/transcend the clearly disastrous results of it if/when it's pursued to its conclusion...

    This version of the cosmos changed, first when we stepped onto
    the moon, and secondly when we started occupying a second
    location (space stations). We went from an experiment to a civilization
    in terms of how the lower dimensions computate our possible progressions.


    think of it this way; that if mandela hadn't done what he did, white south africa would have been forced to nuke black south africa and there
    wouldn't even 'be' a south africa today? at least not any recognisable one anyway! plus this is precisely what's gonna happen to us too unless we get ahead of the curve! it's basically the same system!


    Yeah, they are still struggling, but peace and humane progress are winning.

    it literally all came down to the wire in s.africa, it really came 'that' close to complete disaster! but imho we shouldn't leave it that long and should thus act sooner rather than later, s.africa already has this in-place albeit only in embryonic form, and so they're really struggling with it too! but the 'principles' of it are correct, and so maybe we could start there by helping them to actually implement it more effectively and in fact, and then, in the process, we'd maybe learn from doing that how to perhaps more correctly implement all that for ourselves too, and/or at least then perhaps see our way more clearly to actually doing so?

    after all, we gots to start somewhere innit eh? ;)

    It is a good test case for finding long term solutions.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, September 13, 2019 13:21:20
    From: slider@anashram.com

    LowRider wrote...

    But the sad truth is we are already halfway to our Chinese-ification.
    Google, et al., have done it for us. Chairman Mao could never have
    dreamed of their success. To the Great Helmsman, power, as he wrote in
    the Little Red Book, stemmed from the barrel of a gun. How first half
    of
    the 20th century of him. Power these days begins with the click of a
    search engine. Without our even being aware of it, we are being told
    what to think. We already have "social credit scores," just like our
    Chinese brothers and sisters. It's practically over. Caught between
    Google—the super-government—and our own all-seeing secular government, >> > the citizen as an individual is vanishing.

    ### - this is really nothing new + it's got nada to do with china or
    russia, or even communism, that's all just a scapegoat...

    It's a long standing pattern, no argument there.
    Almost a permanent theme where the social order en masse
    expresses at large the conflict between the five level
    composite brain of the human individual.

    ### - orwell certainly knew what he was talking about when he wrote 1984
    heh...

    i.e., he wasn't describing a possible future but the way things actually
    were & are at the time!

    and that was back in the 1940's!?





    and because, in truth, it's actually been going on for a very long
    time, a
    very long, slow decline over 100's of years that many have duly noticed
    &
    noted


    Yeah, it's accelerated because of interconnectivity.

    ### - said interconnectivity has certainly been employed to solidify the
    ruling elite's position, that what started-off promising freedom (or more freedom then) for all, a free & open internet, with free music, movies and non-censored speech and all the rest of it, has gradually been turned
    around into a means of controlling large numbers of people and even
    nations instead, the chinese for example, trying to have their own, more insular, internet, being their way of controlling their own nations'
    thinking by cutting themselves off from ours, something we openly ridicule
    them for as being 'controlling', while we've ended up doing exactly the
    same thing??




    only no one wants to fuckin' listen to them of course hah, people's
    total
    'investment' in it perforce precludes considering doing anything
    different
    now + also leaves them with too little imagination as to considering
    anything different; we're painted into a corner & locked into it come
    what
    may, and that's not new! it's just getting tighter now is all...

    Good combination of metaphors.
    Nature shall rebel by protecting the iconoclasts and rebels
    to insure fundamental innovations occur and new complexities arise.

    ### - the roman empire only survived at all by 're-inventing' themselves
    as being the holy roman empire, thus i'd suggest that we're now at a very similar stage too of either reinventing ourselves anew, or continuing the decline...

    religion, however, is old-hat by now, it's all played out as a motivator & enabler, so we need something new, something 'like' religion but that
    isn't actually a religion... not just another means of social control but
    some way of enabling people to control/manage themselves...




    this, for example, was made/stated in 1976! (says it all really) 43
    years
    ago?? and it was old then!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM

    Bookmarked for study.
    Never analyzed it in depth, slowly.
    That bit is both "overture" and finale as symphonic "half close to full close."

    ### - there are endless good one-liners in that movie, so many am kinda surprised it was ever really allowed to be screened? it deliberately
    wasn't hyped in the media of course, the end lines of: "no one really
    wanted to hear that their life was meaningless and so the ratings dropped" basically saying it all, no one, for example, tried to 'stop' it dropping
    for this movie did they?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35DSdw7dHjs





    iow: capitalism is doomed to collapse; it's unsustainable! period! it
    only
    goes so far!

    as does communism ultimately too! so that's really not the problem nor
    issue!

    so then, do we just continue to ride this doomed train all the way down
    to
    its miserable end? are we really that stubborn??

    That's the open question, brother.

    ### - the right wing in s.africa (iow: the then ruling elite in a system
    that directly reflects our own) only opened up to the idea of such change
    once their own existence was directly threatened, a rather worrying omen
    from our pov, in that it apparently had to come 'that' close to disaster before they'd even 'consider' it as being a viable option? that it was
    that or... die!

    that if we were 'really' smart, we'd take a clue from all that and intelligently 'forestall' reaching a similarly deadly situation ourselves before changing?

    (yeah right, like old trumpy's suddenly gonna announce, for example, that
    we're all changing over to a new system now, that left & right are gonna
    merge as a means of resolving the impasse created by being split? - lol
    south africas' De klerk had to have a gun held to his head to even
    consider doing such a thing!)



    or do we perhaps use our intelligence for once to 'forestall' such an
    eventuality and instead try implementing something perhaps a little more
    radical & imaginative in political terms; such as nelson mandela
    actually
    helped put into action for example?

    A truth and reconciliation era.
    The government here no longer promotes the ufo myths
    and has transitioned to logging and studying the 0-1-2 dimensional
    objects that bubble and percolate up to 3-4 dimensional reality
    as UAP unidentified aerial phenomenom.

    ### - it really would be an era of truth & reconciliation, a couple of centuries of more genuinely learning from the mistakes of the past, after
    all it's all there in black & while to be seen/studied instead of being
    swept under the carpet...





    e.g., the best minds from both left & right need to come together to
    form
    something new, new enough to take us beyond the problems caused &
    created
    by the former split-system...


    Or at least stop treating each other like angry four year olds.

    ### - angry, possessive, 4 year olds with nuclear clubs ya mean!




    the precedents are there for it, not only with mandela's actual example
    of
    resolving a deadly + ultimately fatal political impasse, but also with
    england at the beginning of the second world war wherein churchill
    selected members for his war-time cabinet from 'both' left and the right
    parties in an unbiased: 'just the best person for the job' type
    scenario,
    and which worked btw! after the war was over we then however reverted
    back
    to the old split ways, duh... but there it actually was, a working
    example
    in action for a moment!

    Above calls to mind the idea "Necessity is the mother of invention."
    Untill the problem is bad enough, long enough; a dedicated core
    group won't form to enlist everyone in a practical solution to a problem
    set.

    ### - arguably, we've been hovering at this precise point since the
    beginnings of the cold war (almost 100 years?)

    said 'necessity of invention' moment has already been reached as 'any' war
    now would be utterly disastrous and likely irrecoverable! the 'right' time being 'before' the first shot is fired...



    i.e., we are now in the 21st century, and we need 21st century ideas to
    resolve all the now unresolvable problems created by 20th century
    thinking, the old way of thinking for sure brought us to this point of
    high advancement, but we need new thinking now to escape/transcend the
    clearly disastrous results of it if/when it's pursued to its
    conclusion...

    This version of the cosmos changed, first when we stepped onto
    the moon, and secondly when we started occupying a second
    location (space stations). We went from an experiment to a civilization
    in terms of how the lower dimensions computate our possible progressions.

    ### - imho, we need something more than a purely 'mechanical' future to
    look forward to and to aspire to, such solutions being devoid of having
    much humanity in them otherwise...




    think of it this way; that if mandela hadn't done what he did, white
    south
    africa would have been forced to nuke black south africa and there
    wouldn't even 'be' a south africa today? at least not any recognisable
    one
    anyway! plus this is precisely what's gonna happen to us too unless we
    get
    ahead of the curve! it's basically the same system!


    Yeah, they are still struggling, but peace and humane progress are
    winning.

    ### - they're really struggling with it + are ostensibly alone with it too seeing as the rest of the world has yet to even catch-up to them... thus
    should be 'our' interest in making sure they succeed lest we lose all hope altogether...

    it's the only model we have!




    it literally all came down to the wire in s.africa, it really came
    'that'
    close to complete disaster! but imho we shouldn't leave it that long and
    should thus act sooner rather than later, s.africa already has this
    in-place albeit only in embryonic form, and so they're really struggling
    with it too! but the 'principles' of it are correct, and so maybe we
    could
    start there by helping them to actually implement it more effectively
    and
    in fact, and then, in the process, we'd maybe learn from doing that how
    to
    perhaps more correctly implement all that for ourselves too, and/or at
    least then perhaps see our way more clearly to actually doing so?

    after all, we gots to start somewhere innit eh? ;)

    It is a good test case for finding long term solutions.

    ### - it's also the 'only' one we've currently gots??

    and as such: the 'only' example' of where it could all go!

    mandela was alright ya know, a onetime freedom fighter one who was
    eventually assisted, by the whole world, to institute a massive change of direction in order to save a nation!

    iow; there are endless lessons & examples contained therein to point the
    way...

    are we even listening yet though? plus how is it possible to ignore such a
    huge event on the world stage?? because there's literally nada about it on
    a daily basis in the news, almost like it never even happened? this should
    be being endlessly discussed!

    that the de-klerks of 'our' civilisation (i.e., the right wing) are pretty scared is a given, they don't want change unless there's a gun being (metaphorically) pointed at their heads?

    but then neither did de-klerk initially, it was only when he saw the utter hopelessness of his situation that he opened to change, that he also then merged with the left rather than disappearing from influence altogether...

    iow: we need 'new' politics for a new era or there isn't gonna 'be' a new
    era!

    but how to get there without first looking down the barrel of a gun?

    my worst fears, being along the lines of the start of a nuclear war and of people only then coming to their senses at that point when they 'see' the horror they've unleashed and it's looking right back at them? thus maybe
    even millions may have to die first before we wake up for real and are
    thus 'forced' to make a better choice...

    i hope not, but then you know what a bunch of dumb monkeys we are on this planet huh...

    plus i don't know off-hand how many died in s.africa before mandela was
    allowed to do his thing, but it was quite a lot? a measurable percentile
    then of the overall population, something which doesn't bode well for us considering just how much bigger we are by comparison?

    our whole generation has grown up under this umbrella of total
    annihilation!

    it's time for a change ;)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 12:29:37
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    The Five Level Mind
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEGx96PMiOo

    Animal
    Human
    Truth
    Eternal
    Infinite

    Genuis-Warrior-Guardian

    19. Jesus said, "Congratulations to the one who came into being
    before coming into being.

    If you become my disciples and pay attention to my sayings,
    these stones will serve you.

    For there are five trees in Paradise for you; they do not
    change, summer or winter, and their leaves do not fall.

    Whoever knows them will not taste death."

    []

    A five level equation.
    Composed by two 27 symbol alphabets.
    One for materiality (Processes)
    One for consciousness (Information)
    -1 0 1+

    []

    Man On The Moon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLxpNiF0YKs

    It's Alright Ma
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYajHZ4QUVM

    Mr. Eight deals with many christians
    and their guardian in this part of the Eternal.

    Hence,
    Darkness at the break of noon
    Shadows even the silver spoon
    The handmade blade, the child's balloon
    Eclipses both the sun and moon
    To understand you know too soon
    There is no sense in trying

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 13:00:17
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    One for all the dead Drainflys in Mr Eight's traps
    Spirit In The Sky
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aZsF7v0pNw


    ...
    ..?
    :-0
    :-}
    :-)
    ...

    One for the trapper of Drainflys
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bow1ZJTV4L4

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Tuesday, September 17, 2019 11:55:34
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, September 13, 2019 at 8:23:15 AM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    LowRider wrote...

    But the sad truth is we are already halfway to our Chinese-ification.
    Google, et al., have done it for us. Chairman Mao could never have
    dreamed of their success. To the Great Helmsman, power, as he wrote in >> > the Little Red Book, stemmed from the barrel of a gun. How first half >> of
    the 20th century of him. Power these days begins with the click of a
    search engine. Without our even being aware of it, we are being told
    what to think. We already have "social credit scores," just like our
    Chinese brothers and sisters. It's practically over. Caught between
    Google—the super-government—and our own all-seeing secular
    government,
    the citizen as an individual is vanishing.

    ### - this is really nothing new + it's got nada to do with china or
    russia, or even communism, that's all just a scapegoat...

    It's a long standing pattern, no argument there.
    Almost a permanent theme where the social order en masse
    expresses at large the conflict between the five level
    composite brain of the human individual.

    ### - orwell certainly knew what he was talking about when he wrote 1984 heh...

    i.e., he wasn't describing a possible future but the way things actually were & are at the time!

    and that was back in the 1940's!?


    The surveilance state is truly here.
    Edward Snowden has been making rumblings about coming
    home to U.S. if they'll give him a conventional trial
    according to our founding documents instead of a pre-rigged
    national security trial with secret letters of intent.
    The surveilance state is a case of
    "he who lives by the sword, dies by the sword."
    They are catching each other at so many things
    Snowden https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/17/politics/edward-snowden-russia-us-fair-trial/index.html


    and because, in truth, it's actually been going on for a very long
    time, a
    very long, slow decline over 100's of years that many have duly noticed >> &
    noted


    Yeah, it's accelerated because of interconnectivity.

    ### - said interconnectivity has certainly been employed to solidify the ruling elite's position, that what started-off promising freedom (or more freedom then) for all, a free & open internet, with free music, movies and non-censored speech and all the rest of it, has gradually been turned around into a means of controlling large numbers of people and even
    nations instead, the chinese for example, trying to have their own, more insular, internet, being their way of controlling their own nations' thinking by cutting themselves off from ours, something we openly ridicule them for as being 'controlling', while we've ended up doing exactly the same thing??


    A brief bit of shoveling water against the tide from Firefox. https://www.fastcompany.com/90403645/mozilla-and-creative-commons-want-to-reimagine-the-internet-without-ads-and-they-have-100m-to-do-it

    The chinese part is fascinating because they had to create
    many zones similar to Honk Kong on the mainland to enter
    the 21st century. A pull-push between old authoritarian China and new modern China. I posted a really deep article at the end of this post you
    might want to read first discussing social dynamics between societies
    or tribes or even sports teams with a three tier affiliation structure.
    I am reading it for the second time very slowly. It discusses these subjects were speaking of here.




    only no one wants to fuckin' listen to them of course hah, people's
    total
    'investment' in it perforce precludes considering doing anything
    different
    now + also leaves them with too little imagination as to considering
    anything different; we're painted into a corner & locked into it come
    what
    may, and that's not new! it's just getting tighter now is all...

    Good combination of metaphors.
    Nature shall rebel by protecting the iconoclasts and rebels
    to insure fundamental innovations occur and new complexities arise.

    ### - the roman empire only survived at all by 're-inventing' themselves
    as being the holy roman empire, thus i'd suggest that we're now at a very similar stage too of either reinventing ourselves anew, or continuing the decline...

    There's technology here already that dwarfs everything in the public domain. It's kept private and secret as a deliberate threat to the worlds leaders.
    Free will is something that knows how to protect itself, I still prefer
    to colloquially refer to it as Almighty, or The Zero. The dimension
    of points that is The Whole and always is-was-shall be. You and I and everyone else are first The Nothing that seperates all that was from all that might be.

    "So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so." Genesis 1:7

    The waters are "information" establishing a computational seperation
    between what has been computated and what possibilities remain.
    The gist of my argument being, "That which computates needs computation."
    Free will may be the colloquial poetic phrase for it but there is a need
    for innovation and complexity as the past searches the future for ideas
    and the future searches the past for ideas. In this world Almighty
    rarely manifests his eternal infinite presence as a chosen set of objects
    but when he does it is impressive. When necessary he slaps the leaders gently.


    religion, however, is old-hat by now, it's all played out as a motivator & enabler, so we need something new, something 'like' religion but that
    isn't actually a religion... not just another means of social control but some way of enabling people to control/manage themselves...


    Yes so true. I'm a huge Jesus fan but don't trust christians
    who haven't taken the time to really eat the entire "tree of knowledge."
    All those formulas in the Old Testament were choking the world-garden
    from dimension 1-infinite. By living them out step by step he dismantled
    a world of half truths and lies. That took genius to figure out and a warrior to see the mission through. His role as a "consent guardian" is less understood.
    If I had the technology to recreate you and I did, a thousand years down
    the road when many of your creations are integrated into the "totality"
    of The Zero, you could throw a sassy fit or have a weak momentum and
    declare your right not to exist, threatening your entire 1000 year
    contribution the the totality process. That's where consent becomes VITAL.
    With consent the individual could cease to exist but their creations could remain protecting system continuity. Circling back to Jesus, he has over
    two billion "Consent Decrees" which require 3X + 1X repetition to
    satisyfy the math of 0-1-2-3-infinite dimensions.
    So as a "player" Jesus had the genius-warrior-guardian trifecta.
    That incident I triggered on 7-7-1979 was a four level consent event.
    A single point of inquiry became three massive 0-1-2-4D computational
    engines, each ten miles in diameter and seperated by 12-15 miles.
    It took the entire Grand Canyon in USA to accomodate the event.
    It was The Zero-The Nothing-Almighty-Consent Decree 3X+1X.
    I received my own cosmos plus a copy of this one as a reference copy.
    A grain of sand inside a grain of sand... a sizeless point surfing The Zero.

    I'm talking cosmic stuff ^^^ to foreshadow-address Nelson below.
    We are in the future and he may have seen or heard this exchange
    while dreaming in his cell and communing with The Zero.
    It pays to be careful of-for players.
    John's ufo was a restatement of consent.
    He wanted out enough to 4X.
    It was a 0D point promoted and remoted.



    this, for example, was made/stated in 1976! (says it all really) 43
    years
    ago?? and it was old then!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcpWk2WKhEM

    Bookmarked for study.
    Never analyzed it in depth, slowly.
    That bit is both "overture" and finale as symphonic "half close to full close."

    ### - there are endless good one-liners in that movie, so many am kinda surprised it was ever really allowed to be screened? it deliberately
    wasn't hyped in the media of course, the end lines of: "no one really wanted to hear that their life was meaningless and so the ratings dropped" basically saying it all, no one, for example, tried to 'stop' it dropping for this movie did they?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35DSdw7dHjs


    A golden age for cinema the 70's were.
    Such a cross pollination of generations and issues.



    iow: capitalism is doomed to collapse; it's unsustainable! period! it
    only
    goes so far!

    as does communism ultimately too! so that's really not the problem nor
    issue!

    I've read good treatise that communism is merely super capitilism.
    That's why I came by ADC to tack on the mini treatise "The Ignoble Lie."


    so then, do we just continue to ride this doomed train all the way down >> to
    its miserable end? are we really that stubborn??

    That's the open question, brother.

    ### - the right wing in s.africa (iow: the then ruling elite in a system that directly reflects our own) only opened up to the idea of such change once their own existence was directly threatened,

    It's always about food and shelter in the end.
    Money maybe the interum tool, but threaten somebodies ability to
    eat and sleep and they shall go to war or negotiate depending on
    the dynamics of power and how the scales are weighted pro or con.

    a rather worrying omen
    from our pov, in that it apparently had to come 'that' close to disaster before they'd even 'consider' it as being a viable option? that it was
    that or... die!

    It's a fuckin cliche dude but it has weight:
    "Necessity is the mother of invention."
    When truly challenged we rise to the tasks at hand
    or perish crushed by the occasion of some "Occasionals"
    That's when a clean connection to The Zero as
    Eternal Infinite Below & Infinite Eternal Above
    With The Almighty as The Zero as The Bridge to Freedom.

    Nelso learned all this shit in the solitude of Almighty's Silence.
    On a ship of jabbering fools with nothing original or sincere to say
    the rest and knowledge in The Silence-The Nothing is like being washed completely clean of 100 trillionn years of trivial nonsense.
    Jesus did his reconnect in the desert alone Nelson in a dark solitary box.
    The momentum builds and is compressed into a sheen of invincibility.
    Then change becomes inevitable because only one person still has momentum.


    that if we were 'really' smart, we'd take a clue from all that and intelligently 'forestall' reaching a similarly deadly situation ourselves before changing?


    Until it gets permanently uncomfortable and the entire system is
    threatened by collapse from decay's rotting the roof and corner stones
    people stay with the status quo.

    (yeah right, like old trumpy's suddenly gonna announce, for example, that we're all changing over to a new system now, that left & right are gonna merge as a means of resolving the impasse created by being split? - lol south africas' De klerk had to have a gun held to his head to even
    consider doing such a thing!)


    Trump is a nuclear weapon deployed by the people against the stifling
    soul sucking rot and decay of USA elites pushing for totalitarian rule.
    Amazon, Google, Apple, Youtube, Microsoft; all willing to poison their
    own roots in their own soil, for what, a penny more per customer, per hour. They destroyed themselves by "Eating the seed corn" Springtime came
    and there were no seeds for the new crop. Chauncy Gardner was needed but
    didn't show up in time.



    or do we perhaps use our intelligence for once to 'forestall' such an
    eventuality and instead try implementing something perhaps a little more >> radical & imaginative in political terms; such as nelson mandela
    actually
    helped put into action for example?

    A truth and reconciliation era.
    The government here no longer promotes the ufo myths
    and has transitioned to logging and studying the 0-1-2 dimensional
    objects that bubble and percolate up to 3-4 dimensional reality
    as UAP unidentified aerial phenomenom.

    ### - it really would be an era of truth & reconciliation, a couple of centuries of more genuinely learning from the mistakes of the past, after all it's all there in black & while to be seen/studied instead of being swept under the carpet...


    America has a long range transportation and communication facility
    waiting to be delivered from 0-1-2D to 3-4D. They are afraid to sign
    the paperwork because they fear revolution if it was discovered that
    0D-1D-2D = Almighty-God-Creator = Point-Line-Circle = Computates-Systems-Exists.
    It's all so simple it cracks the dutchy, provincial, and cosmopolitan mirror into a thousand pieces of small mindedness dissolved by The Zero.
    Me and you are each three points in The Zero, we just "think" we are here, discussing complex equations of form and style from infinite catalogs stored from uncountable previous versions of the cosmos. Yet, we embrace the dream
    and influence it according to our predilictions.





    e.g., the best minds from both left & right need to come together to
    form
    something new, new enough to take us beyond the problems caused &
    created
    by the former split-system...


    Or at least stop treating each other like angry four year olds.

    ### - angry, possessive, 4 year olds with nuclear clubs ya mean!


    :-0 , :-) Yeah, yeah.

    The funny bit is when The Zero sends little white basketball sized computational
    units to the nuke silos, turns the missiles off for a second or two,
    to calculate the blast yield of each weapon and then positions the yeald
    at each point on the Earth to determine the kill ratio of humans per blast ratio, then turns the nukes back on. As if 0-2-3 & 3-4 infinite could ever
    be disconnected. Fancy weapons need extra computational resources ala
    the Foo Fighters helping the B52 bombers in World War II.

    Information and Processes, that's all there is in -1 0 1+.
    That bit above is why they know Almighty is always here, "Silent"
    but manifesting his "Free Will" to protect "Free Will."





    the precedents are there for it, not only with mandela's actual example >> of

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