From: slider@atashram.com

looks like our work is done here.
play taps. night night.

### - so you don't think there's gonna be a bit of a cc-revival then eh? (smile) :)

could happen ya know, if only to eliminate some of the things he suggested
re lucid dreaming...

i.e., lucid dreaming is on the rise, and at some point everything ever
written about the subject will be re-read + thoroughly investigated, and perforce this includes the rather abstract volumes cc wrote on the
matter... later dreaming experts examining and gleaning every little
detail everywhere for anything that might be useful in terms of therapy & self-advancement and all the rest of it...

that exploration & mapping of the dream state has already begun in
essence, and has only been a bit slow to-date due to not having access to
a more reliable/repeatable method of getting into it, WILDs, in that
sense, being the missing piece of the puzzle until now that grants said
better access, although imho it's gonna take another generation (30 years
say) to really get started in earnest, and probably another after that to become established as a viable + scholarly thing to be investigating...

that if there's anything useful in it, anything at all, then they're
eventually gonna suss it all out at some point and then go on from there depending on just what they find/discover along the way...

i personally think it's gonna be good because, if nothing else, of the way
it initially + very quickly fundamentally deepens/widens one's
appreciation of being alive, somewhat similar perhaps to the way travel broadens the mind and makes people more worldly-aware of life outside the confines of their own petty little village-type mentality... similar
perhaps to being better well-read in terms of literature & history, and
lol they haven't even gotten to the 'midway-point' yet!!! (the place in awareness where 'knowledge' is hangin' there like fruits on a tree just
for the taking!) and also because right there: there's a whole 3rd of our
lives that has basically gone unexplored & unmapped until now!? 33%! so
who knows what that might just all entail and/or may ultimately even
yield-up & explain to us in terms of the origins of religion &
superstition, not to mention a perhaps far more profound understanding of psychology and all the rest of it combined etc etc... it's a path with
heart!

am actually quite hopeful in that sense heh (who me? slider hopeful??)
provided we don't all blow our silly selves up in the meantime that is
lol, after all nothing surprises me in stupid wallyworld anymore hah! our science and our technology has, so far, quite obviously exceeded our
wisdom to wield it, the 'inner-bit' has been lacking and only always
playing catch-up? so then maybe this will balance things out a bit more
eh? Science & Art can then join forces, perhaps even with Art eventually
taking the lead when science becomes seen for what it has only been all
along: a tool, and not a god to be aspired to per se for its own sake ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqYiHkx7ils

"I've been to the mountain. And I've looked over. And I've seen the
Promised Land. I may not get there with you. But I want you to know
tonight, that we, as a people, will get to the Promised Land."

--poor old martin :)

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

looks like our work is done here.
play taps. night night.

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

How long have I been sleeping
How long have I been drifting alone through the night
How long have I been dreaming I could make it right

get it up and do it again, lol! :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

How long have I been sleeping
How long have I been drifting alone through the night
How long have I been dreaming I could make it right

### - somewhere between 9,000 and 15,000 years according to plato heh,
some kinda massive cataclysm virtually wiping-out the previous
civilisation en-mass, the survivors of which were left, like orphans he
says, to survive and bring-up themselves without any knowledge of their previous culture and history... we being the direct descendants of those survivors who, being forced to literally live hand-to-mouth for centuries
just in order to live, have ultimately given-rise to an utterly
materialistic hand-to-mouth way of looking at the world and at our
ourselves living in that world...

get it up and do it again, lol! :)

### - ahem, (and in my best arnie-voice...) don't worry, i'll beee back!

maybe in another couple-1000 years or so haha :)))

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

as Denver goes so goes the Nation (maybe)
looks like the city has passed an ordiance
which will decriminalize psilocybin. Just
means they probably won't prosecute people
who have it. We'll see how this pans out.
Magic mushrooms are here again folks.
step right up, get high and dump your
depression. But don't go off the deep end
with a big dose. Go easy, you take too much
and you could end up like me. lol! :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

as Denver goes so goes the Nation (maybe)
looks like the city has passed an ordiance
which will decriminalize psilocybin. Just
means they probably won't prosecute people
who have it. We'll see how this pans out.

### - it's basically a tacit admission that the 'war on drugs' just didn't pan-out, in truth they need to decriminalise 'all' drugs and control them
a different way altogether, meeting it head-on like that just didn't work
out and prolly only made that (and other) problems worse, just takes 'em a
long time to grow-up on this planet and come to terms with things is all
eh? (a very long time indeed apparently! so slowly it's like being on a
planet of the retards?)

Magic mushrooms are here again folks.
step right up, get high and dump your
depression. But don't go off the deep end
with a big dose. Go easy, you take too much
and you could end up like me. lol! :)

### - ahhh but ya didn't end up so bad for all that eh?

still 'sane' anyway after all these... tears?

although who can tell hehehe j/k :)))

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

### - ahhh but ya didn't end up so bad for all that eh?

still 'sane' anyway after all these... tears?

although who can tell hehehe j/k :)))

no i really did do too much.
but i guess fifty years later i'm ok.
micro-dosing might just be the ticket
these days. a little dab will do ya.

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

the psilocybin i took was in a blue pill form.

if one could chop one of those up you could micro dose it.

let's take you back to that day shall we?

"OK Chris just take one half of one of these.
Righty-o capitain. yes sir commandante.

A little later Chris gonna give it a shot.
He takes one half, nuttin' happens.
So he takes the whole pill. Still nothing.
See he drives over to UCI to meet some people.
On the way (while driving) he comes on to the stuff.
Holy fucking shit, what hell is this stuff?
Wowzer fucking wowzers. And i'm driving a car.
Hold on your hat man, you're in for 7 hour trip.
Sandoz lab psilocybin. You can't find it anymore.
No shroomies for me.

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From: slider@anashram.com

no i really did do too much.
but i guess fifty years later i'm ok.

### - might not have been so bad the second time hehehe ;)

micro-dosing might just be the ticket
these days. a little dab will do ya.

### - problem is these things all come in widely differing strengths?

the 'magic-mushrooms' we have growing here in the uk being very small &
mild, you could eat 4 or 5 of them, for example, and hardly anything would happen, a full dose being around 20 or 30 of the little suckers...

dunno about micro-dosing, sometimes only a little 'poison' can be very bad
for ya, whereas a full dose is actually safer + much better (cue some
gangster movie scene where this dude goes into an opium den to try it and
after a few tentative puffs on their pipe starts climbing the walls in
sheer horror & paranoia haha, whereon they hold him down and make him
smoke a bit more and then he's fine and settles down etc...)

otoh, someone i used to know who was in the airforce, was stationed in
belize and asked locally for mushrooms and was brought just the thinest
sliver of one that he said had him totally tripping for 36 hours and was
only barely able to hold it all together throughout!

if you wanna get just a little high i'd suggest weed, if you don't smoke
then it can be vaped, how many puffs of it you then have being entirely up
to you and so can be carefully controlled that way (e.g., take 2 small
puffs and leave it for half an hour to see how much you're affected and
thus find/discover your comfort-zone/limit that way... don't recommend
eating it as you'll never know in advance how strong it is nor what you're comfort zone is with it either, to 'eat' it is to commit to the full ride whatever that eventually turns out to be, and some are much stronger than others...)

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From: slider@anashram.com

the psilocybin i took was in a blue pill form.

if one could chop one of those up you could micro dose it.

let's take you back to that day shall we?

"OK Chris just take one half of one of these.
Righty-o capitain. yes sir commandante.

A little later Chris gonna give it a shot.
He takes one half, nuttin' happens.
So he takes the whole pill. Still nothing.
See he drives over to UCI to meet some people.
On the way (while driving) he comes on to the stuff.
Holy fucking shit, what hell is this stuff?
Wowzer fucking wowzers. And i'm driving a car.
Hold on your hat man, you're in for 7 hour trip.
Sandoz lab psilocybin. You can't find it anymore.
No shroomies for me.

### - ahahaha :)))

it might have been lsd, have ya thought of that?

'coz psilocybin doesn't usually last that long, 3 hours tops in chemical
form, that or ya had a helluva dose!

plus who would have ever thought the world could look sooo strange eh?

you were genuinely 'outside' for a little while thar' boy! ;)

barkin' hahaha :))))

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