• Re: who cares ?

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, November 16, 2018 20:49:24
    From: slider@atashram.com

    who ?

    ### - 2-types of peeps innit: those who care and those who don't give a
    shit!

    unfortunately for moi am in the first group (d'oh!)

    i therefore have compassion (or sympathy then) for the human condition!

    prolly because i see/witness it so clearly?

    cc reckoned it was between terror & wonder (which is also totally correct
    btw!)

    but pour-moi it's starkly between beauty & ugly

    the sheer beauty of everything versus the sheer ugliness/suffering of everything!

    and it's not very comfortable either! often rips me apart!

    but what else can a poor boy do??

    so jus' walkin' the line here boss!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTby-nfFd1I

    haha ffs beam me up scotty! ;)

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  • From waltmitty@1:229/2 to All on Friday, November 16, 2018 10:48:59
    From: crsds@sbcglobal.net

    who ?

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  • From waltmitty@1:229/2 to All on Friday, November 16, 2018 13:16:56
    From: crsds@sbcglobal.net

    Try to realize it's all within yourself, no-one else can make you change
    And to see you're really only very small
    And life flows on within you and without you

    When you've seen beyond yourself
    Then you may find peace of mind is waiting there
    And the time will come when you see we're all one
    And life flows on within you and without you

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, November 17, 2018 15:54:48
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:49:24 -0000, slider <slider@atashram.com>
    wrote:


    who ?

    ### - 2-types of peeps innit: those who care and those who don't give a
    shit!

    unfortunately for moi am in the first group (d'oh!)

    i therefore have compassion (or sympathy then) for the human condition!

    What a bald faced liar!! You most emphatically do NOT have
    compassion, not for humans or for anyone or anything else, except for
    an abiding sense of self pity for the atrocious way the world and its inhabitants has treated you.



    prolly because i see/witness it so clearly?

    cc reckoned it was between terror & wonder (which is also totally correct >btw!)

    but pour-moi it's starkly between beauty & ugly

    the sheer beauty of everything versus the sheer ugliness/suffering of >everything!

    Idiot. We're a thin layer of atmosphere and life on a huge ball of indestructible rock which has been circling the sun for the last 5
    billion years and will do so for another 4.5 billion years, until
    swallowed by the red giant the sun turns into as it slowly runs out of
    fuel.

    What the fuck are you babbling on about?



    and it's not very comfortable either! often rips me apart!

    Yep. Can see how the MH17 and Paradise tragedies have "ripped you
    apart". Clear as day.



    but what else can a poor boy do??

    so jus' walkin' the line here boss!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTby-nfFd1I

    haha ffs beam me up scotty! ;)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Saturday, November 17, 2018 13:57:07
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 06:54:48 -0000, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:49:24 -0000, slider <slider@atashram.com>
    wrote:


    who ?

    ### - 2-types of peeps innit: those who care and those who don't give a
    shit!

    unfortunately for moi am in the first group (d'oh!)

    i therefore have compassion (or sympathy then) for the human condition!

    What a bald faced liar!! You most emphatically do NOT have
    compassion, not for humans or for anyone or anything else, except for
    an abiding sense of self pity for the atrocious way the world and its inhabitants has treated you.

    ### - only in your twisted pov is that correct thang...

    there's summat very wrong with you ya know!

    you don't understand so everyone ELSE is wrong? riiiight...





    prolly because i see/witness it so clearly?

    cc reckoned it was between terror & wonder (which is also totally
    correct
    btw!)

    but pour-moi it's starkly between beauty & ugly

    the sheer beauty of everything versus the sheer ugliness/suffering of
    everything!

    Idiot. We're a thin layer of atmosphere and life on a huge ball of indestructible rock which has been circling the sun for the last 5
    billion years and will do so for another 4.5 billion years, until
    swallowed by the red giant the sun turns into as it slowly runs out of
    fuel.

    What the fuck are you babbling on about?

    ### - if you don't understand it i can't possibly explain it to you?

    you have a handle on the 'physical' side of things, but only at the
    express expense of everything else, you're emotional nature is all fucked
    up!






    and it's not very comfortable either! often rips me apart!

    Yep. Can see how the MH17 and Paradise tragedies have "ripped you
    apart". Clear as day.

    ### - you're very smart Neanderthal thang, but apparently nothing more
    than that...

    thus your life is devoid of feelings beyond that of anger & hatred

    life is far more than just the black & the white of it all but that's all
    you see and are aware of, and so your is a solely mechanical
    interpretation of life, the universe & everything: no Art, no love, no abstract... just a bucket of nuts & bolts forever and that's it!
    (riiiight...)








    but what else can a poor boy do??

    so jus' walkin' the line here boss!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTby-nfFd1I

    haha ffs beam me up scotty! ;)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 20:32:54
    From: slider@anashram.com

    so jus' walkin' the line here boss!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTby-nfFd1I

    haha ffs beam me up scotty! ;)

    That's a deep one, never heard it.
    I've been in dreams similar to that.

    ### - early genesis: 'The lamb lies down on broadway'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRSgvfNZcWA

    The Story Part 1:

    The flickering needle jumps into red. New York crawls out of its bed. The
    weary guests are asked to leave the warmth of the all-night theater,
    having slept on pictures that others only dream on. The un-paid extras
    disturb the Sleeping Broadway. WALK to the left DONT WALK to the right: on Broadway, directions don't look so bright. Autoghosts keep the pace for
    the cabmans early mobile race. Enough of this - our hero is moving up the subway stairs into daylight Beneath his leather jacket he holds a spray
    gun which has left the message R-A-E-L in big letters on the wall leading underground. It may not mean much to you but to Rael it is part of the
    process going towards 'making a name for yourself.' When you're not even a pure-bred Puerto-Rican the going gets tough, and the tough gets going.
    With casual sideways glances along the wet street, he checks the motion in
    the steam to look for potential obstruction. Seeing none, he strides along
    the sidewalk, past the drugstore with iron guard being removed to reveal
    the smile of the toothpaste girl, past the nightladies and past Patrolman
    Frank Leonowich (48, married, two kids) who stands in the doorway of the wig-store. Patrolman Leonowich looks at Rael in much the same way that
    other Patrolmen look at him, and Rael only just hides that he is hiding something. Meanwhile from out of the steam a lamb lies down. This lamb has nothing whatsoever to do with Rael, or any other lamb - it just lies down
    on Broadway. The sky is overcast and as Rael looks back a dark cloud is descending like a balloon into Time Square. It rests on the ground and
    shapes itself into a hard edged flat surface, which solidifies and extends itself all the way East and West along 47th Street and reaching up to the
    dark sky. As the wall takes up its tension it becomes a screen showing
    what had existed in three dimensions, on the other side just a moment
    before. The image flickers and then cracks like painted clay and the wall silently moves forward, absorbing everything in its path. The unsuspecting
    New Yorkers are apparently blind to what is going on. Rael starts to run
    away towards Columbus Circle. Each time he dares to take a look, the wall
    has moved another block. At the moment when he thinks he's maintaining his distance from the wall, the wind blows hard and cold slowing down his
    speed. The wind increases, dries the wet street and picks up the dust off
    the surface, throwing it into Rael's face. More and more dirt is blown up
    and it begins to settle on Rael's skin and clothes, making a solid layered
    coat that brings him gradually to a terrified stillness. A sitting duck.
    The moment of impact bursts through the silence and in a roar of sound,
    the final second is prolonged in a world of echoes as if the concrete and
    clay of Broadway itself was reliving its memories. The last great march
    past. Newsman stands limp as a whimper as audience and event are locked as
    one. Bing Crosby coos "You don't have to feel pain to sing the blues, you
    don't have to holla - you don't feel a thing in your dollar collar."
    Martin Luther King cries "Everybody Sing!" and rings the grand old liberty bell. Leary, weary of his prison cell, walks on heaven, talks on hell.
    J.F.K. gives the O.K. to shoot us, sipping Orange Julius and Lemon Brutus.
    Bare breasted cowboy double decks the triple champion. Who needs Medicare
    and the 35c flat rate fare, when Fred Astaire and Ginger Rogers are
    dancing through the air? From Broadway Melody stereotypes the band returns
    to 'Stars and Stripes' bringing a tear to the moonshiner, who's been
    pouring out his spirit from the illegal still. The pawn broker clears the
    noisy till and clutches his lucky dollar bill. Then the blackout.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:57:54
    From: intraphase@gmail.com


    so jus' walkin' the line here boss!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTby-nfFd1I

    haha ffs beam me up scotty! ;)

    That's a deep one, never heard it.
    I've been in dreams similar to that.

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, November 21, 2018 12:26:54
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 12:57:07 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 06:54:48 -0000, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 19:49:24 -0000, slider <slider@atashram.com>
    wrote:


    who ?

    ### - 2-types of peeps innit: those who care and those who don't give a
    shit!

    unfortunately for moi am in the first group (d'oh!)

    i therefore have compassion (or sympathy then) for the human condition!

    What a bald faced liar!! You most emphatically do NOT have
    compassion, not for humans or for anyone or anything else, except for
    an abiding sense of self pity for the atrocious way the world and its
    inhabitants has treated you.

    ### - only in your twisted pov is that correct thang...

    there's summat very wrong with you ya know!

    you don't understand so everyone ELSE is wrong? riiiight...

    Go back and find one post of yours where your compassion is clearly on
    show. Just one. Real compassion, real feeling, real empathy. I
    challenge you.

    I'm a great purveyor of character. Yours doesn't pass the smell test.







    prolly because i see/witness it so clearly?

    cc reckoned it was between terror & wonder (which is also totally
    correct
    btw!)

    but pour-moi it's starkly between beauty & ugly

    the sheer beauty of everything versus the sheer ugliness/suffering of
    everything!

    Idiot. We're a thin layer of atmosphere and life on a huge ball of
    indestructible rock which has been circling the sun for the last 5
    billion years and will do so for another 4.5 billion years, until
    swallowed by the red giant the sun turns into as it slowly runs out of
    fuel.

    What the fuck are you babbling on about?

    ### - if you don't understand it i can't possibly explain it to you?

    you have a handle on the 'physical' side of things, but only at the
    express expense of everything else, you're emotional nature is all fucked
    up!

    BUt what else is there? Belief without evidence is immoral and
    corrodes common sense. Emotions are a different thing entirely. You
    said "the sheer beauty of everything versus the ugliness/suffering of everything" and I asked what the fuck you were saying because that did
    not compute.

    This is the problem you have textually, I can only imagine the problem
    you have conversing with people in RL.








    and it's not very comfortable either! often rips me apart!

    Yep. Can see how the MH17 and Paradise tragedies have "ripped you
    apart". Clear as day.

    ### - you're very smart Neanderthal thang, but apparently nothing more
    than that...

    thus your life is devoid of feelings beyond that of anger & hatred

    Oh I'm the first to agree that my feelings are of anger and hatred but
    a lot of that devolves from my childhood and so on, like a lot of
    people. I would never ignore my feelings but I can at least
    understand where the template was stamped and that was in, like for so
    many of us, childhood.

    But I have other feelings which I don't feel like broadcasting. They
    can be intense. I would say love is there, for my wife for instance
    and others, but it's not like anything described in Mills & Boon. I
    have a great deal of empathy for my fellow beings (human and
    non-human) and pity and sympathy. And feelings of vengeance for those
    who hurt and scam their way through life when the Karma train finally
    pulls into their station.

    In other words, I'm like a lot of other people but with the veneer
    ripped off. There's nothing devoid in my life, it's full and vast in
    purview, so much so that I'm reduced to little more than a mote of
    dust even in my own view. My ego is nothing cosmically, but
    everything vis a vis other humans.


    life is far more than just the black & the white of it all but that's all
    you see and are aware of, and so your is a solely mechanical
    interpretation of life, the universe & everything: no Art, no love, no >abstract... just a bucket of nuts & bolts forever and that's it! >(riiiight...)

    Oh that is just complete balderdash. I love art in all its forms,
    painting, sculpture, design, prose, poetry, music - you name it, I
    love it. But all of that is still natural, not supernatural, it's all
    based on physics and rules and structure. The math of music is well
    known for instance. I gave up believing in supernatural bunk a long
    time ago, including god and allah and krishna and so on (buddhism is interesting, there's nothing supernatural there, the only religion
    which doesn't credit some sort of creator for the eternal universe) -
    there's enough mystery in quantum mechanics and esoteric science to
    satisfy my craving for the unknown.









    but what else can a poor boy do??

    so jus' walkin' the line here boss!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTby-nfFd1I

    haha ffs beam me up scotty! ;)

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