• Beliefs without evidence are morally wrong - Philosophy 101

    From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, November 14, 2018 10:59:02
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    Very apt to post this here. Why? Because the main proponent of this
    place, who has now departed (and who knows, might be dead), was for
    much of his life a believer in warlocks, wizards, shamans, ghosts,
    spirit worlds and so on - all without a fucking SHRED of evidence.

    And yet, while he was here, he regularly shat on religious belief and
    pretended to be an avid logician, a person whose very existence was
    founded and based on rationality and reason.

    https://aeon.co/ideas/believing-without-evidence-is-always-morally-wrong

    William Kingdon Clifford:

    ‘it is wrong always, everywhere, and for anyone, to believe anything
    upon insufficient evidence’

    God? No evidence. Into the bin...
    Allah? No evidence. Into the bin...
    Supernatural? No evidence. Into the bin...
    Psychic phenomena? No evidence. Into the bin...
    UFO's? No evidence. Into the bin...
    Luck? No evidence. Into the bin...

    etc etc etc



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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, November 13, 2018 21:36:30
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    There is also the "Evidence Paradox"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/7K2g9GWE6d8

    If I am shown or find evidence there is zero obligation
    to share said evidence or try to convince anyone it exists.
    In the reality filters I use all is knowable and obtainable.(If need be)
    If I tried to explain my fixation with "Paradise Lost" I met get blamed.
    Or be laughed at for believing there is more to reality than five senses.
    In higher dimensional thought a fixation is a cautionary or promotional form.
    I didn't know what "Paradise Lost" meant but I recorded it to decode later.
    I took the slings and arrows, and if I was this tribes seer I would have avoided the coming disaster while my tribe members would be "tested by fire." Or maybe a subtle stain would have lead us to take the long way round.

    I listen to the small voice, I call Mr. Eight.
    Right now he is repeating several "no messages now" signals.
    "Wanna play a game." ie: "all clear"
    "Joke em if they can't take a fuck."
    "LMNOP - Last Message No Origin Point."

    Everybody reacts to trajedy differently.
    I see your point as equally valid as Slides.
    I salute your compassion and Slides 40,000 foot overview.
    Far away outside of the computational circle there is only serenity.

    A prayer for the dead. https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Paradise-Camp-Fire-horse-found-pool-rescued-Hill-13388884.php

    For those who could "hear" the alarm was sounded early 17 days ahead.
    On October 23 thats how far ahead of the primary wave I was avoiding pain.

    To each their own.

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to intraphase@gmail.com on Saturday, November 17, 2018 15:34:38
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Tue, 13 Nov 2018 20:36:30 -0800 (PST), LowRider44M
    <intraphase@gmail.com> wrote:



    There is also the "Evidence Paradox"

    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.dreams.castaneda/7K2g9GWE6d8

    If I am shown or find evidence there is zero obligation
    to share said evidence or try to convince anyone it exists.
    In the reality filters I use all is knowable and obtainable.(If need be)
    If I tried to explain my fixation with "Paradise Lost" I met get blamed.
    Or be laughed at for believing there is more to reality than five senses.
    In higher dimensional thought a fixation is a cautionary or promotional form. >I didn't know what "Paradise Lost" meant but I recorded it to decode later.
    I took the slings and arrows, and if I was this tribes seer I would have >avoided the coming disaster while my tribe members would be "tested by fire." >Or maybe a subtle stain would have lead us to take the long way round.

    I listen to the small voice, I call Mr. Eight.
    Right now he is repeating several "no messages now" signals.
    "Wanna play a game." ie: "all clear"
    "Joke em if they can't take a fuck."
    "LMNOP - Last Message No Origin Point."

    Everybody reacts to trajedy differently.
    I see your point as equally valid as Slides.
    I salute your compassion and Slides 40,000 foot overview.


    You forgot "human decency". Brian has no idea of human decency. It's
    part of our evolutionary development as members of a tribe where each
    is part of the whole in order to make the naked ape as durable as the
    other contemporaneous life forms (try pleistocene saber tooth cats and
    wooly rhinoceri...)

    He has been wounded by life and by those close to him and he chooses
    to take this out on humanity at large. That's what's called a "cop
    out" but he will never see it.



    Far away outside of the computational circle there is only serenity.

    A prayer for the dead. >https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Paradise-Camp-Fire-horse-found-pool-rescued-Hill-13388884.php

    For those who could "hear" the alarm was sounded early 17 days ahead.
    On October 23 thats how far ahead of the primary wave I was avoiding pain.

    To each their own.







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