• my 'take' on the election

    From alreadygone@1:229/2 to All on Friday, September 07, 2018 11:50:12
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    here's what happened in America in 2016 election.
    Now first off let's get one thing straight. I
    don't give a shit who is running country, it fucking
    doesn't matter to me if Elmer Fudd or Bugs Bunny or a
    Unicorn is at the helm. I don't fucking care.

    People voted for Trump as a way of saying fuck you to
    Hilliary. Anyone BUT Hilliary. Not so much the Demo
    party, but a direct piss off to Clinton. So here we
    are. Careful what you wish for. We got the bozo of
    the century running show and what a fucking mess it is.
    I can't believe how fucked up shit got. Never held an
    office his entire life 'AND YET" the big douchebag is running
    the country. Holy fucking shit, we fucked now huh? lol!
    How many days does he have left before he is out? I don't
    see how he is going to withstand all nastiness he is receiving.
    It's really too much for anyone. Everyday is a clown show.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to alreadygone on Friday, September 07, 2018 16:45:31
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, September 7, 2018 at 2:50:13 PM UTC-4, alreadygone wrote:
    here's what happened in America in 2016 election.
    Now first off let's get one thing straight. I
    don't give a shit who is running country, it fucking
    doesn't matter to me if Elmer Fudd or Bugs Bunny or a
    Unicorn is at the helm. I don't fucking care.

    People voted for Trump as a way of saying fuck you to
    Hilliary. Anyone BUT Hilliary. Not so much the Demo
    party, but a direct piss off to Clinton. So here we
    are. Careful what you wish for. We got the bozo of
    the century running show and what a fucking mess it is.
    I can't believe how fucked up shit got. Never held an
    office his entire life 'AND YET" the big douchebag is running
    the country. Holy fucking shit, we fucked now huh? lol!
    How many days does he have left before he is out? I don't
    see how he is going to withstand all nastiness he is receiving.
    It's really too much for anyone. Everyday is a clown show.

    I agree with your overview, but it goes deeper.
    The issue properly framed is the democrats and republicans failed.
    They became a single party of non-responsive, law breaking toadies.
    Then a revolution that started with the tea party culminated in Trump.

    It's a war between the people and the parasites.

    Lights Out
    https://youtu.be/cHNByaffexU

    WALKAWAY MOVEMENT

    Queer Walkaway
    https://youtu.be/51UGcghHZsk

    Nigger Walkaway
    https://youtu.be/ZbP33yl_kT4

    Socialist Walkaway
    https://youtu.be/Qe8syiGIvDw

    Russian Bot Walkaway
    https://youtu.be/egbQwRm-IHs

    Independent Walkaway
    https://youtu.be/MhPbO7CoBF8

    Welfare Queen Walkaway
    https://youtu.be/oG6JqmdIubA

    []

    Who’s behind the tsunami of social media and blog censorship?
    Posted on August 23, 2018 by Dr. Eowyn | 15 Comments

    From Art Moore, “Memo Reveals Soros-Funded Social-Media Censorship Plan,” WND, August 20, 2018:

    The recent wave of censorship of conservative voices on the internet by tech giants Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Apple mirrors a plan concocted by a coalition of George Soros-funded, progressive groups to take back power in Washington from
    President Trump’s administration.
    A confidential, 49-page memo for defeating Trump by working with the major social-media platforms to eliminate “right wing propaganda and fake news” was presented in January 2017 by Media Matters founder David Brock at a retreat in Florida with
    about 100 donors, the Washington Free Beacon reported at the time.
    On Monday, the Gateway Pundit blog noted the memo’s relationship with recent moves by Silicon Valley tech giants to “shadow ban” conservative political candidates and pundits and remove content.
    The Free Beacon obtained a copy of the memo, “Democracy Matters: Strategic Plan for Action,” by attending the retreat.
    The memo spells out a four-year agenda that deployed Media Matters along with American Bridge, Shareblue and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW) to attack Trump and Republicans.
    The strategies are impeachment, expanding Media Matters’ mission to combat “government misinformation,” ensuring Democratic control of the Senate in the 2018 midterm elections, filing lawsuits against the Trump administration, monetizing
    political advocacy, using a “digital attacker” to delegitimize Trump’s presidency and damage Republicans, and partnering with Facebook to combat “fake news.”
    Quashing ‘fake news’ with ‘mathematical precision’
    The Free Beacon in its January 2017 story said Brock sought to raise $40 million in 2017 for his organizations.
    The document claims Media Matters and far-left groups have “access to raw
    data from Facebook, Twitter, and other social media sites” so they can “systemically monitor and analyze this unfiltered data.”
    “The earlier we can identify a fake news story, the more effectively we can quash it,” the memo states. “With this new technology at our fingertips, researchers monitoring news in real time will be able to identify the origins of a lie with
    mathematical precision, creating an early warning system for fake news and disinformation.”
    Media Matters met with Facebook, which boasts some 2 billion members worldwide, to discuss how to crack down on fake news, according to the memo.
    The social media giant was provided with “a detailed map of the constellation of right-wing Facebook pages that had been the biggest purveyors of fake news.”
    Brock’s memo also says Media Matters gave Google “the information necessary to identify 40 of the worst fake new sites” so they could be banned
    from Google’s advertising network.
    The Gateway Pundit pointed out that in 2016, Google carried out that plan on the Gateway Pundit blog and other conservative sites, including Breitbart, the Drudge Report, Infowars, Zero Hedge and Conservative Treehouse.
    Facebook, meanwhile has changed its newsfeed algorithm, ostensibly to combat “fake news,” causing a precipitous decline in traffic for many conservative sites.
    President Donald Trump himself was affected, with his engagement on Facebook dropping by 45 percent.
    A study in June by Gateway Pundit found Facebook had eliminated 93 percent of the traffic of top conservative news outlets.
    Western Journal, in its own study, found that while left-wing publishers saw a roughly 2 percent increase in web traffic from Facebook following the algorithm changes, conservative sites saw a loss of traffic averaging around 14
    percent.
    ‘Totalitarian impulse’ of the left
    President Trump’s 2020 campaign manager, Brad Parscale, charged last week
    the giants of Silicon Valley are stifling free speech, particularly conservative speech, manifesting the “inherent totalitarian impulse” of the
    left….
    On Aug. 6, WND reported, Facebook, YouTube and Apple banned commentator Alex Jones and his Infowars website within hours of each other.
    Last month, WND reported moderate Muslims and counter-terrorist activists were increasingly being restricted by Silicon Valley, while terrorist content remains on social-media platforms, according to researchers.
    Trump campaign chief Parscale said last week the banning of Jones “will inevitably lead to the silencing of those with far less controversial opinions.”
    “What we are seeing in Big Tech is the inherent totalitarian impulse of the Left come into full focus,” Parscale said.
    Indeed, what followed the censorship of Alex Jones and InfoWars is WordPress’
    take-down of blogs, including Fellowship of the Minds.
    We are the proverbial “canaries in the coal mines” — early warnings of even worse to come.
    First they came for Dr. James Tracy, and I did not speak out because I was not James Tracy.
    Then they came for Alex Jones and InfoWars, and I did not speak out because
    I was not Alex Jones.
    Then they came for Fellowship of the Minds, American Everyman, Chemtrails Planet, Cinderella’s Broom, Dutchsinse’s blog, Saboteur365, To Be Free, and
    others. I did not speak out because I was not one of them.
    Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
    Time to wake up, Americans, before they come for you.

    []

    Cohen's plea deal is prosecutor's attempt to set up Trump
    By Mark Penn, opinion contributor
    -
    Mark Penn is a managing partner of the Stagwell Group, a private equity firm specializing in marketing services companies, as well as chairman of the Harris
    Poll and author of "Microtrends Squared." He served as pollster and adviser to President Clinton
    from 1995 to 2000, including during Clinton's impeachment. You can follow him on Twitter @Mark_Penn.
    -
    Here we go, from Russia with love to campaign finance with love.

    Why was Michael Cohen investigated? Because the "Steele dossier" had him making
    secret trips to meet with Russians that never happened, so his business dealings got a thorough scrubbing and, in the process, he fell into the special
    counsel's Manafort bin
    - the bin reserved for squeezing until the juice comes out. And now we are back
    to 1998 all over again, with presidents and presidential candidates covering up
    their alleged marital misdeeds and prosecutors trying to turn legal acts into illegal ones by
    inventing new crimes.

    The plot to get President Trump out of office thickens, as Cohen obviously was his own mini-crime syndicate and decided that his betrayals of Trump meant he would be better served turning on his old boss to cut the best deal with prosecutors he could
    rather than holding out and getting the full Manafort treatment. That was clear
    the minute he hired attorney Lanny Davis, who doesn't try cases and did past work for Hillary Clinton. Cohen had recorded his client, trying to entrap him, sold information
    about Trump (while acting as his lawyer) to corporations for millions of dollars, and didn't pay taxes on millions.

    The sweetener for the prosecutors, of course, was getting Cohen to plead guilty
    to campaign finance violations that were not campaign finance violations. Money
    paid to people who come out of the woodwork and shake down people under threat of revealing
    bad sexual stories are not legitimate campaign expenditures. They are personal expenditures. That is true for both candidates we like and candidates we don't.
    Just imagine if candidates used campaign funds instead of their own money to pay folks like
    Stormy Daniels to keep quiet about affairs; they would get indicted for misuse of campaign funds for personal purposes and for tax evasion.



    There appear to be two payments involved in this unusual plea - Cohen pleaded guilty to a campaign finance violation for having "coordinated" the American Media Inc. payment to Karen McDougal for her story, not for actually making the
    payment. So he is
    pleading guilty over a corporate contribution he did not make.

    Think about this for a minute: Suppose ABC had paid Stormy Daniels for her story in coordination with Michael Avenatti or maybe even the Democratic National Committee's law firm on the eve of the election; by this reasoning, if
    the purpose of this money
    paid, just before the election, would be to hurt Trump and help Clinton win, this payment would be a corporate political contribution. If using it not to get Trump would be a corporate contribution, then using it to get Trump also has to be a corporate
    contribution. That's why neither are corporate contributions and this is a bogus approach to federal election law. (Note that none of the donors in the 2012 John Edwards case faced any legal issues and the Federal Election Commission [FEC] ruled their
    payments were not campaign contributions that had to be reported - facts that prosecutors tried to suppress at trial.)

    Now, when it comes to Stormy Daniels, Cohen made a payment a few days before the election that Trump attorney Rudy Giuliani says was reimbursed. First, given that this payment was on Oct. 27, it would never have been reported before the election campaign
    and so, for all intents and purposes, was immaterial as it relates to any effect on the campaign. What's clear in this plea deal is that, in exchange for
    overall leniency on his massive tax evasion, Cohen is pleading guilty to these other charges as an
    attempt to give prosecutors what they want - a Trump connection.

    The usual procedures here would be for the FEC to investigate complaints and sort through these murky laws to determine if these kinds of payments are personal in nature or more properly classified as campaign expenditures. And, on the Daniels payment
    that was made and reimbursed by Trump, it is again a question of whether that was made for personal reasons (especially since they have been trying since 2011 to obtain agreement). Just because it would be helpful to the campaign does not convert it to a
    campaign expenditure. Think of a candidate with bad teeth who had dental work done to look better for the campaign; his campaign still could not pay for it because it's a personal expenditure.

    ---

    MORE FROM MARK PENN

    Only courts can rein in 'King Rosenstein'
    Press needs to restore its credibility on the FBI and Justice Department
    Don't let Big Tech become Big Brother

    ---

    Contrast what is going on here with the treatment of the millions of dollars paid to a Democratic law firm which, in turn, paid out money to political research firm Fusion GPS and British ex-spy Christopher Steele without listing them on any campaign
    expenditure form - despite crystal-clear laws and regulations that the ultimate beneficiaries of the funds must be listed. This rule was even tightened recently. There is no question that hiring spies to do opposition research in Russia is a campaign
    expenditure, and yet, no prosecutorial raids have been sprung on the law firm, Fusion GPS or Steele. Reason: It does not "get" Trump.

    So, Trump spends $130,000 to keep the lid on a personal story and the full weight of state prosecutors comes down on his lawyer, tossing attorney-client privilege to the win
  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to allreadydun@gmail.com on Saturday, September 08, 2018 19:05:04
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 11:50:12 -0700 (PDT), alreadygone
    <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:


    here's what happened in America in 2016 election.
    Now first off let's get one thing straight. I
    don't give a shit who is running country, it fucking
    doesn't matter to me if Elmer Fudd or Bugs Bunny or a
    Unicorn is at the helm. I don't fucking care.

    Lol. A unicorn would be good. Impale the imposers and parasites,
    prance around with the carcasses on the horn.


    People voted for Trump as a way of saying fuck you to
    Hilliary. Anyone BUT Hilliary. Not so much the Demo
    party, but a direct piss off to Clinton. So here we
    are. Careful what you wish for. We got the bozo of
    the century running show and what a fucking mess it is.
    I can't believe how fucked up shit got. Never held an
    office his entire life 'AND YET" the big douchebag is running
    the country. Holy fucking shit, we fucked now huh? lol!
    How many days does he have left before he is out? I don't
    see how he is going to withstand all nastiness he is receiving.
    It's really too much for anyone. Everyday is a clown show.

    You're wrong. Every country in the world knows that the US economy is
    running on 8 cylinders and a turbo under Trump. It's devalued our
    dollar, the British pound, the Euro - but in particular it's crueling
    the fucking Russian zloty or rubble or what the fuck it's called
    nowdays and the Chinese yingyang. Your economy is stronger now than
    under Bill C, and that's saying something. Trump has got a lot of
    things right.

    If you're waiting for Trump to smoke a J like Elon did yesterday,
    you'll be waiting forever. But he has neutralised NK and probably
    stopped Wachington or LA being vaporised.

    Don't believe everything you read.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to thang ornerythinchus on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 09:33:58
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    On Saturday, September 8, 2018 at 4:05:08 AM UTC-7, thang ornerythinchus wrote:
    On Fri, 7 Sep 2018 11:50:12 -0700 (PDT), alreadygone
    <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:


    here's what happened in America in 2016 election.
    Now first off let's get one thing straight. I
    don't give a shit who is running country, it fucking
    doesn't matter to me if Elmer Fudd or Bugs Bunny or a
    Unicorn is at the helm. I don't fucking care.

    Lol. A unicorn would be good. Impale the imposers and parasites,
    prance around with the carcasses on the horn.


    People voted for Trump as a way of saying fuck you to
    Hilliary. Anyone BUT Hilliary. Not so much the Demo
    party, but a direct piss off to Clinton. So here we
    are. Careful what you wish for. We got the bozo of
    the century running show and what a fucking mess it is.
    I can't believe how fucked up shit got. Never held an
    office his entire life 'AND YET" the big douchebag is running
    the country. Holy fucking shit, we fucked now huh? lol!
    How many days does he have left before he is out? I don't
    see how he is going to withstand all nastiness he is receiving.
    It's really too much for anyone. Everyday is a clown show.

    You're wrong.

    He's completely right about that.

    Every country in the world knows that the US economy is
    running on 8 cylinders and a turbo under Trump. It's devalued our
    dollar, the British pound, the Euro - but in particular it's crueling
    the fucking Russian zloty or rubble or what the fuck it's called
    nowdays and the Chinese yingyang. Your economy is stronger now than
    under Bill C, and that's saying something. Trump has got a lot of
    things right.

    If you're waiting for Trump to smoke a J like Elon did yesterday,
    you'll be waiting forever. But he has neutralised NK and probably
    stopped Wachington or LA being vaporised.

    Don't believe everything you read.

    I don't. Especially not from you. These points are from Robert Reich:

    1. Job growth has actually slowed. In the last 19 months of the Obama administration it averaged 3.96 million new jobs per month. In the first 19 months of Trump, 3.58 million.

    2. The unemployment rate is now down to 3.9 percent. That’s good. But it doesn’t measure how many people are still too discouraged to look for work or
    are working part time who’d rather be working full time. The labor participation rate (percent of
    prime working age workers who actually have jobs) has been stuck at 88.9 percent for over a year.

    And the current 3.9 percent rate is hardly better than ever in history. It was 3.4 percent in 1968 under Johnson, and below 3.9 percent for much of 1951, 1952, and 1953, under Eisenhower.

    The practical question is always how low the Fed will allow unemployment to fall before raising rates, for fear of inflation. In 1996, unemployment fell to
    4.4 percent, but Fed Chair Alan Greenspan then raised rates. This time around, Fed Chair Janet
    Yellen and her successor Jerome Powell have been quite accommodating, but Powell is starting to raise rates again.

    3. Economic growth: The economy is now growing at an annualized rate of 4.2 percent (that’s for the 2nd quarter). That’s not as good as the 5.1 percent
    and 4.9 percent achieved in 2 quarters in 2014, or the 4.7 percent in one quarter in 2011. During
    the Clinton years of 1997-1999, it grew by over 4.5 percent annually. Under Reagan, the recovery averaged 4.4 percent a year. Under Eisenhower, even faster.

    4. Wages: This is the biggest problem now. Today’s hourly wage, after accounting for inflation, has less purchasing power than it did 40 years ago. In fact, adjusted for inflation, the average hourly wage in January 1973 would be $23.68 today. Yet
    today's actual average hourly wage is $22.73.

    ***

    Wages for the average worker will not improve under Trump.
    His policies are extremely labor unfriendly.

    Now take a look at three graphs from this Forbes article
    (which is just 4 months old):

    Article:
    http://tinyurl.com/y9upgq2n

    Graph of Civilian Unemployment Population Ratio:
    http://tinyurl.com/ycrqpp6z

    See the gradual upward trend of the Civilian Unemployment Population
    Ratio since 2010 - a steady rise through the last 6 years of Obama.
    Obama was gradually bringing it out of the HOLE it had fallen into
    in the recession that followed the 8 Bush years.

    Long-term Graph of Civilian Labor Force Participation Ratio: http://tinyurl.com/y7975eu3

    Now look at how around 911 the Civilian Labor Force Participation
    Ratio went into freefall. Bush had leveled out that fall by the
    last few years of his 8, but then it went into yet another bad fall
    when the 2008-2010 recession hit. Obama only managed to level it
    out from that fall by his final two years. In general, the
    labor force participation rate has not recovered since it started
    falling way back around 911. Indeed, that rate has now fallen all
    the way back to where it was in the late 1970's. This means there
    is now a smaller percentage of workers STAYING IN the workforce
    than there was back in 1980 and a FAR smaller percentage than
    there was back in 2000.

    Trump has NOT changed this. Trump has simply continued the
    leveling off Obama had been maintaining but has not improved it.
    You can see this quite clearly in the full set of numbers for the
    last 10 years:

    http://tinyurl.com/jd6tndw

    Another interesting thing to look at is how women steadily gained
    while men steadily lost in the participation rate from 1950-2000,
    and then *both* leveled off or fell after the long rise back under
    Bill Clinton concluded.

    Men vs. Women:
    http://tinyurl.com/y75wezal

    See, we made our women go to WORK. :)

    In the 'old days', 85%+ of men worked yet by 2012 only 70% did.
    And in the 'old days' only 30-40% of women worked but by 2012
    nearly 60% did. The women in our workforce nearly *doubled* while
    the men steadily fell.

    Then look at the long-term unemployment rate graph:
    http://tinyurl.com/ya5d48nc

    Unemployment skyrocketed when the big recession hit. But it had been
    steadily falling throughout the last 6 Obama years. It has simply
    continued the same long-term downward trajectory in the first
    2 Trump years. Again, Forbes and the numbers say: Trump has NOT
    improved the labor force participation rate. Nor has he improved
    wages, especially not for the working class.

    Forbes:
    "Growing employment should drive up wages, but increases have been
    lukewarm at best... Wage growth has really been related to inflation
    and not what would be considered real wage growth."

    Now check out this detailed graph of Real GDP Growth from 1990-2017: http://tinyurl.com/yaoylqhw

    Notice that Obama beat Trump's 2017 GDP figures in 2010, 2014, and 2015.
    And Clinton kicked both of their asses every year of his presidency.
    But 911 tanked us. Bush managed to rise back up after 911 and seemed
    to be doing well until the big recession tanked us again at the end
    of his term.

    I think Trump has mainly just been coasting on the steady recovery
    of the last 6 years of the Obama administration so far.

    And, of course, 80% of the tax cuts and income increases that have
    occurred under Trump have gone to the 5% at the TOP, who really
    do not even need it. The position of the common wage earners and
    the middle class has held steady or decreased. These are not
    especially rosy times, not even economically. They are not terrible,
    but not that great either.

    The Trump administration is also significantly increasing the deficit.
    You know, that little fiscal problem Republicans whined about and
    obstructed Democrats over through the entirety of Obama's 8 years
    but then immediately gave up on under Trump!

    Look at this graph of the recent deficits: https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxd0s1yua72kjti/Deficits%2002-19.png?dl=0

    In the big 2008-1010 recession, deficits went way up. But look where
    they had fallen to in the last 4 years of the Obama administration.
    In 2017, the Trump administration's deficit was higher than in ANY
    of the last FOUR years under Obama, and in 2018 and 2019 it is
    projected to go UP even more again, all while Republicans control
    everything. The main principle they fought for through all the Obama
    years was keeping the deficit down! Once again, they were lying sacks.

    So all Trump has really done so far is to make himself look good by
    running up America's credit card bills again (and making the super
    rich just that much super richer).

    One more point. Right now our trade deficits look slightly better
    under Trump, because when he started imposing all those tariffs,
    all of our trading partners started snapping up American goods
    so they wouldn't get hit when the tariffs went into effect.
    This 'artificially' stimulates American growth and trade and makes
    our trade deficits appear to be better than they really are.
    But in the NEXT couple of quarters, after most of his tariffs have
    taken effect, we should not see this growth in trade, and may well
    see a fall. So people ought to wait and see what the trade and GDP
    figures are in the NEXT couple of quarters before they talk.
    This was a cheap trick by Trump to make himself look good in the
    short-term.

    In general: he's great at making himself look good, especially in the short-term but he has no real substance and will prove to be bad for
    long-term growth and stability.

    .

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, September 11, 2018 16:26:29
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    Thomas Friedman's take:

    What if Trump is actually heating up our economy by burning all the furniture in the house? It’s going to be nice and toasty for us — at least for a while — but where will our kids sleep?

    What if Trump’s tax cuts, deregulation, scrapping of Obamacare without any alternative and military spending surge were actually ill-thought-through, short-term-focused initiatives that all ignored expert opinion — because they
    mostly emerged from
    off-the-cuff remarks at Trump pep rallies — and collectively amount to a sugar high that not only will be unsustainable but will leave our economy far more vulnerable in the long term?

    When Trump simultaneously cuts corporate taxes and withdraws America from the Paris climate accord, tries to revive the coal industry by lowering pollution standards and weakens fuel economy standards for U.S.-made cars and trucks, he is vastly adding to
    the financial debts and carbon debts that will burden our children.

    And he is doing this despite many economists warning that increasing the deficit when your economy is already growing nicely is really, really reckless — because you may need that money to stimulate your way out of the next recession.

    And he is doing this at a time when virtually every climate scientist has warned that global-warming-driven extreme weather events — droughts, floods and wildfires — are sharply on the rise and we are staring through the last window of time to
    mitigate climate change so that we can manage the impacts that are already unavoidable and avoid the impacts that will be terrifyingly unmanageable.

    In June, The Associated Press reported on the latest International Monetary Fund survey of the U.S. economy, which concluded that as a result of Trump’s “tax cuts and expected increases in defense and domestic programs, the federal budget deficit as
    a percentage of the total economy will exceed 4.5 percent of G.D.P. by next year — nearly double what it was just three years ago.”

    Faced with so much debt, which the country will not be able to grow out of, The
    A.P. story continued, paraphrasing the I.M.F. report, the U.S. “may need to take politically painful steps,” such as cutting Social Security benefits and
    imposing higher
    taxes on consumers. (We’ll probably also have to limit spending on new roads,
    bridges and research.)

    You might want to let your kids know that.

    There were responsible ways to cut taxes on things we want more of — like corporate investment — while boosting them on things we want less of — like
    carbon, reckless financial speculation and diabetes — that could have stimulated jobs and growth
    but also left us more financially and environmentally resilient. But both Trump
    and the anonymous-G.O.P. crowd rejected them, just as they rejected smart improvements to Obamacare, preferring a total scrapping.

    So when Republicans say they’re disgusted by Trump’s ignorance and indecency but love his “deregulations” and “tax reforms” — those very
    sanitized words — this is what they love: taking huge fiscal and environmental risks — effectively
    throwing away our bumpers and spare tires that we may soon need to drive through the next financial or climate storm — for a short-term economic and political high.

    How different is that from Trump’s indecency? Let’s be clear, Trump cheated
    on his wife, but his party’s now cheating on their kids. You tell me who’s worse.

    And don’t get me started on the recently signed $716 billion defense budget for the 2019 fiscal year — a spending hike so dramatic, as defense analyst Lawrence Korb pointed out, that it means since Trump took office under two years ago, “the
    defense budget will have grown by $133 billion, or 23 percent.” And there’s
    no major war going on.

    Here again, the anonymous-Republicans equate a bigger defense budget and more weapons with strategy and strength. Thus, by definition, if Trump increased defense spending, he did something right. Did I miss the series of congressional hearings with
    independent military experts that addressed the question: What are the new (and
    old) threats we’re facing today, and how will these new and vastly expensive weapons systems enable us to better address them?

    Some of the smartest military analysts I know think that investing in so many big, new weapons systems is the equivalent of taking sledgehammers to droplets of quicksilver...

    In sum, I believe in a robust military and U.S. global engagement. But this does not automatically translate into support for a radically higher defense budget.

    So the next time anonymous-G.O.P. lawmakers tell you that while Trump is a moral wreck — and they are saving the nation from his wretchedness — they love his tax cuts, deregulation and military budget, ask them to describe the strategic vision behind
    that defense budget. Ask them if they really are unbothered by massively increasing the deficit at a time when our economy was already growing — just when we should be saving cash to soften our next recession. Ask them if they really think it is smart
    to roll back our auto mileage standards, when the last time we did that the more fuel-efficient Japanese and Korean auto industries nearly killed Detroit.

    Lastly, ask them if they have kids — and how they think all these Trumpian policies that they like, even if they don’t like Trump, will serve the next generation.

    ***

    That's right. That's exactly what Trump is doing. In effect he's
    "running up America's credit cards" to make himself look impressive
    while sabotaging the long-term future - everyone who comes after him.

    An interesting way to view unemployment is to look at the general
    trend across each president's term. Look at what it was when they
    took office, then what the trends were, then what it was when they
    left office.

    Truman entered 3.4 exited 2.6 Very low
    Eisenhower entered 2.6 exited 6.9 Steady rise to fairly high
    Kennedy entered 6.9 exited 5.6 Moderate fall to low
    Johnson entered 5.6 exited 3.4 Steady fall to very low
    Nixon entered 3.4 exited 5.9 Steady rise to fairly high
    Ford entered 5.9 exited 7.6 Moderate rise to high
    Carter entered 7.6 exited 7.4 Steady fall then steady rise to high
    Reagan entered 7.4 exited 5.2 Strong rise then steady fall to low
    Bush Sr entered 5.2 exited 7.1 Steady rise to fairly high
    Clinton entered 7.1 exited 4.3 Steady fall to very low
    Bush Jr entered 4.3 exited 7.8 Rise to fall to rise to high
    Obama entered 7.8 exited 4.7 Strong rise then steady fall to low
    Trump entered 4.7 exited ? Steady fall to ?

    Nixon's, Bush Sr's and Eisenhower's patterns were the same.
    All three steadily rose to fairly high.

    Reagan's and Obama's pattern were the same.
    Both started with big problems but got them under control.

    Clinton and Johnson's patterns were also the same.
    Both brought it steadily down to very low.

    No one really knows what will happen with Trump but I think Friedman's description and possible prediction is perfect, i.e. that Trump will:

    "...collectively amount to a sugar high that not only will be
    unsustainable but will leave our economy far more vulnerable
    in the long term."

    He'll set up whoever comes after him to have it really bad.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, September 16, 2018 12:09:31
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    A bit of the view on Trump from the left [my comments in brackets].
    So y'all can hear what that shit's sounding like. They want blood.

    ***

    Traitor Trump can't trust anyone as the world crumbles around him

    Daily Kos Staff
    Monday September 10, 2018

    The Russian puppet in the White House, Donald Trump, is not in good shape. We’ve been treated to story after story about his paranoia and dysfunction—traits that will only worsen in the wake of the Anonymous op-ed in the New York Times last week.

    Just imagine what it must be like for Trump, someone who demands (unrequited) loyalty and obsequiousness, to see his entire circle crumble around him.

    [For a person who seeks POWER, if truth and reality are not respected,
    then what is there to respect besides power itself? Answer: loyalty.
    Thus, when it comes to authoritarians and gangsters, loyalty will
    always be most important. So yeah, Trump is bound to be going bananas
    when all these people he considered loyal are flipping on him.]

    His personal lawyer Michael Cohen and campaign chairman Paul Manafort are headed to prison. The latter has flipped on him already, naming him as an unindicted co-conspirator, while the other is begging to flip ahead of his second trial.

    His White House lawyer, Don McGahn, has already been singing to Robert Mueller in his investigation of Trump’s collusion, obstruction, corruption, and who knows what else.

    Prosecutors have granted immunity to Trump Co. chief financial officer Allen Weisselberg, the highest ranking non-Trump in Trump’s business world. He knows … everything.

    Melania won’t sleep in the same room as him and overtly loathes him. He can’t trust her.

    He’s facing multiple charges of adultery, sexual harassment, and he himself spoke of his love for sexually assaulting women during the campaign. Efforts to
    stall at least one case, that of Summer Zervos, have been unsuccessful.

    The Trump Foundation, a treasure-trove of wrongdoing (by Trump himself!), is under heavy legal scrutiny. And given that’s all state-level law, it’s outside the scope of any hypothetical Trump pardons.

    [If Trump gets convicted of state crimes, he could actually go to
    prison, becoming the first U.S. President to have that honor. ]

    It’s book season! Books from Omarosa and Bob Woodward haven’t just exposed the inner dysfunction of White House operations, but they’ve proven to Trump—again—that he can’t trust anyone around him. He’s surrounded himself with rats, and they
    re acting like rats. Rats that will sell out Trump for reduced sentences from
    their own litanies of rat-like behavior.

    Yes, yes, I know I’m slandering rats in the bullet-point above. Even diseased
    rats are better than Trump and his sycophants.

    Anonymous just admitted that 1) Trump’s own staff is sabotaging him, and 2) Trump was too stupid to even realize it.

    Internal purges, along with those aforementioned rats jumping ship, have left Trump’s communications and legal departments critically understaffed. And the
    people left are the kind of people Trump wants around, hence … incompetent.

    [It's true that a great deal of the U.S. government is still
    understaffed, therefore partially dysfunctional. A quote from August 10
    from the "Center For Presidential Transition":

    "more than a year and a half into the Trump presidency, the president continues
    to set records for the number of key agency leadership vacancies. Observers said that although the White House has improved its vetting and nomination process over the last
    year, it remains the slowest administration in 40 years for appointments that require Senate confirmation.

    According to the Washington Post and the Partnership for Public Service, who have tracked more than 600 key posts requiring Senate confirmation, 347 Trump nominees have been confirmed to their posts. Another 173 appointees have been named or formally
    nominated, while 166 positions remain vacant."

    Thus, more than 1/4 of the 'key posts' in our government remain unfilled. People could be taking all kinds of advantage of that situation. Who knows
    what all is happening?]

    Democrats are poised to take the House, and maybe even the Senate, and with that will come an avalanche of investigations, subpoenas, and further legal trouble for Trump and his remaining loyalists. And the beauty of it is that even a cursory glance into
    the finances of Trump’s circle has exposed mountains of lawbreaking. Manafort
    and Cohen aren’t the only ethical scofflaws in the Trump administration. They
    all are.

    [LOL. Seems to be true. A great many of the people Trump has hired are
    turning out to be self-entitled shysters. That's no big surprise either.]

    At this point, impeachment might be the best thing to happen to Trump — a blissful end to all this self-inflicted pain. In reality, what we want is Trump
    and his people all in prison. Screw impeachment. I want imprisonment.

    Thus, Trump has no one around him that he can trust. He doesn’t have people around him capable enough to handle the public relations and legal shitstorm that’s about to hit him. And he doesn’t have the mental faculties to find a
    way out. The
    deplorables might love Trump’s overt racism and fear-mongering, but none of that will get him out of the corner he’s painted himself into.

    As unbelievable as it seems, as isolated and hobbled as he is now, things will only get worse.

    [I can't believe they keep calling Trump supporters 'deplorables'.
    I think of them more as... dupes. Like any other cult followers.]

    ***

    But now, how about a couple of articles from Fox News?

    Fox News:
    A retired Navy admiral who oversaw the raid that killed Usama bin Laden has resigned from a Defense Department advisory board, after criticizing President Trump's decision to revoke a former CIA director's security clearance.

    William McRaven, former head of U.S. Special Operations Command, left the Defense Innovation Board (DIB) on Aug. 20, Lt. Col. Michelle Baldanza, a Pentagon spokeswoman, said.

    That was four days after he wrote in the Washington Post that Trump's actions revoking former CIA Director John Brennan's security clearance "embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a
    nation."

    McRaven's op-ed carried the headline, "Revoke my security clearance, too, Mr. President."

    Trump revoked Brennan's clearance last month, saying he felt he had to do something about the "rigged" Russian election interference probe.

    ***

    Fox News:
    The director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency on Sunday treaded carefully into the conversation over President Trump’s controversial comments
    on the death toll in Puerto Rico from last fall’s Hurricane Maria.

    Speaking to Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday,” FEMA chief Brock Long said that the agency itself does not conduct a count of how many people die because of the storm, but added that it’s hard to make an accurate judgment of how many people were
    actually killed by Maria.

    “I think the president is fully supportive and supportive of FEMA and he realizes the mission that we went in to help support was incredibly complex,”
    Long said. “There is a difference between direct deaths and indirect deaths.”

    [Exactly. There is a difference between direct and indirect deaths. Duh.]

    President Trump was heavily criticized last week for making a baseless assertion that massive deaths on Puerto Rico did not happen.

    Trump's claim that the death toll was no more than 18 when he visited Puerto Rico, nearly two weeks after the storm, ignores the fact that the U.S. territory's official death toll was raised to 34 later that day, Oct. 3. After that, it climbed to 64.
    With services devastated, most power out, many people desperate for food and water and roads impassable, it was impossible to know how many died directly from Maria or from floodwaters or deprivation in its immediate aftermath.

    Trump tweeted earlier in the week:
    "3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they
    started to report really
    large numbers, like 3000...."

    While it is difficult to pin down a precise number, independent researchers at George Washington University estimated 2,975 excess deaths related to Hurricane
    Maria in the six months following the hurricane, which hit last September. Puerto Rico Gov.
    Ricardo Rossello commissioned the study and accepted the death toll as the best
    available. Rossello rejected the findings of a different study that estimated more than 4,000 died, saying he found the GWU research with its lower number to
    be
    scientifically sound.

    The study found that 22 percent more people died than would have been expected during that period in a year without the storm. Its central finding has been roughly corroborated by other, similar studies. A second phase will examine the
    circumstances of
    specific deaths to arrive at a more precise number.

    Concerning direct and indirect deaths, FEMA’s Long said that Puerto Rico’s outdated power grid and other flagging resources contributed to the high death toll and that that situation needs to be addressed to prevent another disaster.

    [Trump has continued to whine and blame and argue with the Puerto Rico
    death toll... but the above was a Fox News report. New Republic magazine recently held that "Donald Trump is treating Fox News like it’s state TV."
    If so, then the quotes from the two Fox articles above were taken from
    Trump sanctioned 'State TV'.

    The Mayor of San Juan, Puerto Rico called Trump's remarks 'despicable': https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z85SZ189A0

    "President Trump is so vain, he thinks this humanitarian crisis was about him."
    ]

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, September 20, 2018 10:55:27
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    Page 51. LOL. :)
    http://tinyurl.com/y89ofylt

    .

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  • From alky judas@1:229/2 to Jeremy H. Donovan on Friday, September 21, 2018 07:57:33
    From: crsds@sbcglobal.net

    On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 10:55:28 AM UTC-7, Jeremy H. Donovan wrote:
    Page 51. LOL. :)
    http://tinyurl.com/y89ofylt

    .

    i couldn't find page 51 on the Worrell channel.
    what say there EL Ron Jeremey boy?
    you fuckin' with us again?

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, September 21, 2018 08:48:05
    From: allmyslotties@gmail.com

    i couldn't find page 51 on the Worrell channel.
    what say there EL Ron Jeremey boy?
    you fuckin' with us again?

    ### - oh he's prolly just jerk-ing 'himself' off again haha, why do you even bother?? :D

    wankity-wankity-wank!

    same as it ever was :)

    (+ we gots 2 of 'em now thang's joined jer(k)os camp hehehe...)

    wankers of the world unite!

    and then fuck off out of it hah!

    a right pair of reprobate cunts :)))

    hopeless!

    useless.

    time wasters!

    cunts :)

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  • From alky judas@1:229/2 to All on Friday, September 21, 2018 09:51:58
    From: crsds@sbcglobal.net

    look at that stock market edging up to
    27K at 26,740 right now.

    the country runs itself, doesn't matter
    who is sitting in Washington.

    so what is your pick on Cavanaugh and Ford?
    Going with Ford? Consensus say Ford has
    got it. No bullshit, this really happened
    fucking 36 years ago. Bumb fuck dry hump,
    and you can't get into the Supreme Court.
    Can't even teach law at Harvard now, son of
    a bitch, life is not fair is it? Oh well
    they will find another turkey to decide matters.
    Moral of life: work really hard THEN die.
    Oh boy, thanx you Jesus, can i have another life too?

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to allmyslotties@gmail.com on Sunday, September 23, 2018 17:10:34
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 08:48:05 -0700 (PDT), slider
    <allmyslotties@gmail.com> wrote:


    i couldn't find page 51 on the Worrell channel.
    what say there EL Ron Jeremey boy?
    you fuckin' with us again?

    ### - oh he's prolly just jerk-ing 'himself' off again haha, why do you even bother?? :D

    wankity-wankity-wank!

    same as it ever was :)

    (+ we gots 2 of 'em now thang's joined jer(k)os camp hehehe...)

    What camp? Do you see the entire world as Slider and non-Slider?
    That's mental illness meine freund.

    See to it, or is it too late?


    wankers of the world unite!

    and then fuck off out of it hah!

    a right pair of reprobate cunts :)))

    hopeless!

    useless.

    time wasters!

    Really? I spent the better part of this beautiful spring day driving
    my new 4X4 looking for an amenable dirt track with one of my grandsons
    and my wifey (who gets nervous when I tell her I'm about to go
    off-road). We found a closed road up north with a heap of stolen,
    burnt cars - obviously a dumping ground for crims doing insurance
    scams.

    The grandson, who is 12, was very excited and learnt a bit about the
    world.

    Hardly a waste of time.

    You need to get out more. England is quite beautiful even in autumn.



    cunts :)

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to crsds@sbcglobal.net on Sunday, September 23, 2018 17:23:13
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:51:58 -0700 (PDT), alky judas
    <crsds@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    look at that stock market edging up to
    27K at 26,740 right now.

    the country runs itself, doesn't matter
    who is sitting in Washington.

    Nope that's quite incorrect. Trump is to thank for the high energy
    economy you guys are enjoying now. He's a proper cunt as a human
    being, but he knows how to run a business, that's for sure. And he's
    gonna crush that dictator in China, that's a bonus.


    so what is your pick on Cavanaugh and Ford?
    Going with Ford? Consensus say Ford has
    got it. No bullshit, this really happened
    fucking 36 years ago. Bumb fuck dry hump,
    and you can't get into the Supreme Court.
    Can't even teach law at Harvard now, son of
    a bitch, life is not fair is it? Oh well
    they will find another turkey to decide matters.
    Moral of life: work really hard THEN die.
    Oh boy, thanx you Jesus, can i have another life too?

    I reckon it's a load of crap. Fuck, we all do shit like that when
    young. Women play the prick tease card, men play the try hard card.
    It's a dance. This is politically oriented and it should be ignored.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 24, 2018 12:18:07
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    And then with number 3, here comes Avenatti.

    Michael Avenatti, an attorney who’s recently risen to fame for his representation of Stormy Daniels — a porn actress who alleges that she had an
    affair with Trump — tweeted on Sunday evening that he was representing a woman who had credible
    information about Kavanaugh and Judge.

    “My client is not Deborah Ramirez,” he added.

    The Senate Judiciary Committee quickly reached out to Avenatti for more details
    about the information he was referencing and he outlined additional allegations
    of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh and Judge.

    Avenatti that he’s “aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties” that took place in the DC area in the 1980s, where he alleges Judge and Kavanaugh targeted women with alcohol and drugs and enabled multiple men to
    gang rape them.

    In Sunday’s New Yorker story detailing Ramirez’s allegations, Elizabeth Rasor, a woman who had dated Judge for three years, said she wanted to come forward to rebut claims that Judge has made about the culture of Georgetown Prep.

    She said that Judge had previously confided in her about “an incident that involved him and other boys taking turns having sex with a drunk woman.”

    ***

    Former students of Georgetown Prep have described a pervasive culture of heavy underaged drinking. In his senior-year yearbook entry, Kavanaugh referenced drinking multiple times. In those mentions, he said that he was a member of the
    “Beach Week Ralph
    Club” and “Keg City Club.”

    Judge, who is now a writer and filmmaker, went on to pen a memoir about his personal struggles with alcoholism titled Wasted: Tales of a Gen-X Drunk. In the book, he describes the party culture at his high school, which he renamed “Loyola Prep.”

    In Judge’s book, there’s a character named Bart O’Kavanaugh — who purportedly drinks too much and passes out after attending a party.

    During the Supreme Court nominee’s time at Yale, “Kavanaugh was also a member of an all-male secret society, Truth and Courage, which was popularly known by the nickname ‘Tit and Clit.’” He was also a member of the Delta Kappa Epsilon
    fraternity, which was known at the time for its “wild and, in the view of some critics, misogynistic parties," according to student accounts given to the
    New Yorker.

    More than 1,000 women who attended Ford’s high school, Holton-Arms, over several decades, have also signed an open letter expressing their support for her and noting that they believe her. “Dr. Blasey Ford’s experience is all too consistent with
    stories we heard and lived while attending Holton. Many of us are survivors ourselves,” the letter reads.

    Ford and Ramirez’s sexual assault allegations against Kavanaugh — and his subsequent denial — come in the wake of Democrats’ concerns that he may have perjured himself during his confirmation hearing.

    Democrats have suggested that he misled lawmakers on a variety of topics including his work on Bush-era detainee policy and controversial judicial nominees — spurring questions about the reliability of his testimony.

    Kavanaugh has also been under scrutiny for his ties to retired federal judge Alex Kozinski, who has been accused of sexual assault and harassment by at least 15 women.

    Kavanaugh had previously clerked for Kozinski and appeared to consider him an important professional influence. He has since distanced himself from the former judge and said he was not aware of the concerns about Kozinski’s sexual misconduct. He’s
    also made some other surprising claims about his time with Kozinski, including noting that he doesn’t remember a widely circulated email list of dirty jokes.

    ***

    The guys all say they don't remember nuthin'. The girls say they do.

    Then there's the matter of why the hell the GOP withheld
    thousands of pages of documents from Kavanaugh's records?
    What are they hiding?

    This nomination needs to be voted down. Are we really going to
    let some partying rapey frat boy type become the swing vote in
    overturning the landmark Roe v. Wade? What a horrific scenario.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to thang ornerythinchus on Monday, September 24, 2018 09:32:59
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    On Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 2:23:16 AM UTC-7, thang ornerythinchus wrote:
    On Fri, 21 Sep 2018 09:51:58 -0700 (PDT), alky judas
    <crsds@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

    look at that stock market edging up to
    27K at 26,740 right now.

    the country runs itself, doesn't matter
    who is sitting in Washington.

    Nope that's quite incorrect. Trump is to thank for the high energy
    economy you guys are enjoying now. He's a proper cunt as a human
    being, but he knows how to run a business, that's for sure. And he's
    gonna crush that dictator in China, that's a bonus.

    Trump is liable to fool around and crush us. He's making dumb moves.

    Trump’s China Fight Puts U.S. Tech in the Cross Hairs http://tinyurl.com/y7e2kdg3

    Excerpts:

    "American tech and telecom companies are warning that the industry’s growing reliance on products made and assembled in China means they are more likely to be casualties, not victors, in the skirmish."

    "The tariffs will also hit the tech and telecom companies that provide much of the gear that powers the internet, mobile networks, data storage and other technology. United States customs will begin collecting a tax on circuit boards, semiconductors,
    cell tower radios, modems and other products made and assembled in China and exported into America."

    Those tariffs, Intel warned in a letter last month, are “a game changer for the American consumer.”

    "In recent decades, Intel, Dell, and Apple began shifting manufacturing overseas to take advantage of lower labor costs and align operations closer to customers in emerging markets.

    Intel, for instance, designs and manufactures most semiconductors in the United
    States but relies on Chinese facilities for assembly of their chips, which will
    now be taxed."

    "Google, Dell, IBM and others say the tariffs will increase costs for companies
    and consumers, hindering America’s ability to dominate the next generation of
    technology, like 5G wireless networks. Rising prices, the industries say, will slow business
    growth, increase costs for consumers and put other nations, like China, in a more competitive position to dominate tech."

    “The tariffs affect the heart of the infrastructure of the internet,” said Rob Atkinson, president of the Information Technology & Innovation Foundation, a think tank financed by tech companies including Microsoft, Google and Intel. “If we are
    going to impose tariffs on Chinese goods, we should impose them on items that hurt the Chinese, not us.”

    ***

    so what is your pick on Cavanaugh and Ford?
    Going with Ford? Consensus say Ford has
    got it. No bullshit, this really happened
    fucking 36 years ago. Bumb fuck dry hump,
    and you can't get into the Supreme Court.
    Can't even teach law at Harvard now, son of
    a bitch, life is not fair is it? Oh well
    they will find another turkey to decide matters.
    Moral of life: work really hard THEN die.
    Oh boy, thanx you Jesus, can i have another life too?

    I reckon it's a load of crap. Fuck, we all do shit like that when
    young. Women play the prick tease card, men play the try hard card.
    It's a dance. This is politically oriented and it should be ignored.

    In this era, it's not going to be ignored.

    Maureen Dowd:
    "It has been almost exactly 27 years since the Anita Hill-Clarence Thomas hearings, and we are still defensively explaining — including to our troglodyte president — why women do not always tell the authorities about verbal and physical sexual
    assaults, why they bury episodes or try to maneuver past them."

    The New Yorker:
    "Senate Democrats are investigating a new allegation of sexual misconduct against Kavanaugh. The claim dates to the 1983-84 academic school year, when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale University. The offices of at least four Democratic senators have
    received information about the allegation, and at least two have begun investigating it."

    "Ramirez remembers Kavanaugh had exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as
    she pushed him away. Ramirez is now calling for the F.B.I. to investigate Kavanaugh’s role in
    the incident."

    “This is another serious, credible, and disturbing allegation against Brett Kavanaugh. It should be fully investigated.” -Senator Mazie Hirono of Hawaii

    .

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  • From alky judas@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 24, 2018 13:52:27
    From: crsds@sbcglobal.net

    This nomination needs to be voted down. Are we really going to
    let some partying rapey frat boy type become the swing vote in
    overturning the landmark Roe v. Wade? What a horrific scenario.

    we won't get fooled again will we?
    don't worry the next guy or girl
    could be worse than him. Do u feel
    lucky? lol!

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 24, 2018 17:01:20
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    Yes, I do feel lucky, since 'the next one' would have to be
    confirmed after the mid-term thus may be a whole new ballgame.

    .

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