• stay away from gaslighters

    From chorro@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 30, 2018 13:47:29
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    this is why you want to avoid gaslighting assholes.
    they never take responsibility for anything:

    https://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2017/11/50-shades-of-gaslighting-the-disturbing-signs-an-abuser-is-twisting-your-reality/

    excellent article, read the whole thing.
    these people are sickening.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 31, 2018 00:47:37
    From: slider@anashram.com

    this is why you want to avoid gaslighting assholes.
    they never take responsibility for anything:

    https://thoughtcatalog.com/shahida-arabi/2017/11/50-shades-of-gaslighting-the-disturbing-signs-an-abuser-is-twisting-your-reality/

    excellent article, read the whole thing.
    these people are sickening.

    ### - does this from the above remind you of anyone we know? (grinz...)

    ...malignant narcissists truly believe in their superiority, are grandiose
    and lie on the higher end of the narcissistic spectrum. They have
    antisocial traits, demonstrate paranoia, bear an excessive sense of entitlement, show a callous lack of empathy and display an egregious
    liking for interpersonal exploitation.

    lol :D :D :D

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  • From chorro@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 30, 2018 21:54:17
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    Haskell was scratched today at Del Mar.
    However Juanito came in third at 6.40

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 31, 2018 17:24:43
    From: slider@anashram.com

    However Juanito came in third at 6.40

    ### - haha so who said the universe doesn't have a sense of humour eh?

    (at least it's not a malicious one anyway else it might have come 1st lol)

    :)

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, September 01, 2018 12:37:58
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Slate - Medical Examiner
    No Matter How Bad It Gets, Trump Will Never Give Up

    We’ve been thinking about Trump as a world-class narcissist, but really, his psychological afflictions are slightly more specific, and this distinction can give us insight into the months ahead.

    By JOHN SOMMERS-FLANAGAN
    AUG 30, 2018

    http://tinyurl.com/y7jdwdsr

    Nearly two years into this presidency, it’s become all but normal for pundits
    and professionals alike to regularly express concerns about Donald Trump’s mental health. Most speculations focus on Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and it’s easy to
    see why. If you look at the DSM-5 criteria for NPD, Trump’s public behaviors are consistent with all nine diagnostic criteria. Even further, because only 5 of 9 criteria are needed for an NPD diagnosis, Trump getting 9 of 9 is huge; perhaps no one has
    ever seen a narcissism quite so obvious. Nevertheless, we still can’t diagnose Trump with NPD, because it’s unethical to diagnose anyone without first conducting a professional, in-person evaluation. Besides, what good would
    it do? Trump doesn’t
    seem to care, and also, Trump doesn’t meet the distress or impairment criteria required for a mental disorder diagnosis, anyway.

    At any rate, as disturbing as observations of Trump’s narcissism may be—and
    as frustrating as it is that none of it seems to matter at all — what I find most frightening about his personality isn’t the narcissism. Narcissistic traits among
    politicians and presidential candidates, who often have big personalities, are common. Far more worrisome and dangerous is that his statements and behaviors fit so well with a different personality style. This style is what the renowned
    psychologist
    Theodore Millon called “The Aggrandizing-Devious-Antisocial Personality,” aka antisocial personality.

    Millon summarized these personalities as “driven by a need to … achieve superiority.” They act “to counter expectation of derogation and disloyalty
    at the hands of others,” and do this by “actively engaging in clever, duplicitous, or illegal
    behaviors in which they seek to exploit others for self-gain.” Sound familiar?

    What follows are summary descriptions of Millon’s formulation of antisocial personality. Millon’s statements are not diagnostic criteria for a mental disorder (the purpose here is not psychiatric diagnosis), they are simply psychological observations
    that can help us to better understand and describe Trump, speculate on his future behaviors, and consider how antisocial behaviors can be contained.

    Impulsive imprudence. Millon described antisocial personalities as “ … shortsighted, incautious, and imprudent. There is minimal planning, limited consideration of alternative actions, and consequences are rarely examined.”

    Blaming others for shirked obligations. Antisocial personalities “frequently fail to meet or intentionally negate obligations of a marital, parental, employment, or financial nature.”

    Pathological lying. Millon wrote, “Untroubled by guilt and loyalty, they develop a talent for pathological lying. Unconstrained by honesty and truth, they weave impressive talks of competency and reliability. Many … become skillful swindlers and
    imposters.”

    Declarations of innocence. During times of trouble, antisocial personality types employ an innocence strategy. “When … caught in obvious and repeated lies and dishonesties, many will affect an air of total innocence, claiming without a trace of shame
    that they have been unfairly accused.”

    Empathy deficits. Antisocial personalities are devoid of empathy and compassion. Millon called this “A wide-ranging deficit in social charitability, in human compassion, and in personal remorse and sensitivity.”
    He added that “many have a seeming
    disdain for human compassion.”

    Counterattacks. Millon noted that antisocial personalities are hyperalert to criticism. He “sees himself as the victim, an indignant bystander subjected to unjust persecution and hostility” feeling “free to counterattack and gain restitution and
    vindication.”

    Moral emptiness. Antisocial personalities have no ethical or moral compass. As Millon described, they “are contemptuous of conventional ethics and values”
    and “right and wrong are irrelevant abstractions.” Antisocials may feign religiosity—when
    it suits their purpose. But the moral litmus test will always involve whether they stand to gain from a particular behavior, policy, or government action.

    Clinicians have observed that some individuals with antisocial personalities burn out. Over time, negative family and legal consequences take a toll, prompting antisocials to conform to social and legal expectations. However, when antisocial
    personalities wield power, burning out is unlikely. Power provides leverage to evade personal responsibility for financial maleficence and sexual indiscretions. Antisocial personalities who have the upper hand will increase their reckless, impulsive, and
    self-aggrandizing behaviors in an effort to extend their ever-expanding need for power and control. This seems to be the case with Trump: He will continue to be drawn toward authoritarian leaders, for example, because they symbolize his interpersonal
    goal of gaining even more power and authority over everyone.

    Because antisocial personalities don’t change on their own and don’t respond well to interventions, containment is the default management strategy. Without firm, unwavering limits, the antisocial’s deception, law-breaking, greed, manipulation, and
    malevolent behaviors will increase. An antisocial person in a position to self-pardon or self-regulate is a recipe for disaster. Containment must be forceful and uncompromising, because if an antisocial personality locates a crack or loophole, he will
    exploit it. Staff interventions, comprehensive law enforcement, and judicial systems that mandate accountability must be in place. The three main containment strategies that remain in play for Trump are Republican power checks, the Robert Mueller
    investigation, and the potential for a November blue wave.

    It seems near certain that the first option is not moving forward. Although many Republicans profess to be concerned about Trump’s behaviors, they have not managed to stand up to their president. Defying Trump has proven too costly; he can make
    Republicans pay with electoral consequences. Like him or not, Republicans have little motivation for clashing with a powerful leader who promises them judicial appointments and legislative opportunities. This leaves the Mueller investigation and a
    November blue wave as the main means of checking Trump’s power.

    When antisocial personalities wield power, burning out is unlikely. Power provides leverage to evade personal responsibility for financial maleficence and sexual indiscretions.

    As we contemplate how these strategies might work to check the antisocial dimensions of Trump’s personality, it’s important to return to what Millon posited as the core distinction between the pure narcissist and the antisocial.
    Having a deeper
    understanding of this distinction can help predict and contextualize Trump’s future behaviors and potential response to containment efforts.

    Although pure narcissistic personalities are profoundly egotistical and perpetually preoccupied with grandiose fantasies of admiration, idyllic love, and eternal success, they differ from antisocials in that they aren’t constantly striving to achieve
    advantage over others via aggression, deceit, and manipulation. Narcissistic personalities love to be revered and may experience narcissistic rage when criticized, but they prefer voluntary reverence. In contrast, the antisocial dynamic is far more
    active; it’s also based on an underlying assumption that the world is unsafe,
    unfair, and that all others—at their core—are untrustworthy. This translates into a combination of paranoid thinking and living with the mantra “I can only trust myself�
    �� and it requires continuous and active deception and manipulation. Antisocials are allergic to passivity and drawn to coercive control.

    What does this say about how Trump will respond to containment strategies? We should be ready for a pattern of increasing denial, increasing blame of others,
    increasing lies, declarations of complete and total innocence, and repeated claims of
    mistreatment. He will protect and insulate himself from critique and responsibility through active counterattacks, along with alignment, even briefly, with whatever sources of power, control, and dominance he can find. This might mean further alignment
    with Vladimir Putin, more campaign rallies, and an additional need to gather others around him who will offer only adulation. He will gleefully throw anyone
    and everyone who betrays him under the bus. As he escalates, his insults toward
    others will
    become increasingly demeaning—virtually everyone questioning his superiority will be labeled a dog or disgrace or traitor.

    The antisocial personality is a force that requires an equal or greater counterforce for containment. This is not a man who will slip quietly into the night. In fact, if we don’t gather together an adequate counterforce, Trump’s antisocial behaviors
    will continue, expand, and potentially lead us toward an international crisis. In the meantime, we should collectively buckle up. Trump won’t be waving a white flag any time soon, and the fight to contain him promises to be an ugly one.

    ***

    It's kind of amazing that Trump appears to meet *ALL 9* diagnostic
    criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and yet...
    that may not even be his most dangerous psychological disorder.

    To emphasize a few things:

    "If we don't gather together an adequate counterforce, Trump's antisocial behaviors will continue, expand, and potentially lead us toward an international crisis."

    "Republicans have little motivation for clashing with a powerful leader who promises them judicial appointments and legislative opportunities. This leaves the Mueller investigation and a November blue wave as the main means of checking Trump’s power."

    I think that's right, and it is why I think it's important to be
    involved in stopping him. Yet to be fair, this is also important:

    "We still can’t diagnose Trump with NPD, because it’s unethical to
    diagnose anyone without first conducting a professional, in-person evaluation... and also, Trump doesn’t meet the distress or impairment criteria required for a mental disorder diagnosis, anyway."

    Also, compare that comment with this quote from Chris's article on
    gaslighting techniques:

    "They play the smirking “doctors” in their intimate relationships, diagnosing their victims like “unruly patients,” all while downplaying their own pathological behavior."

    So this is another common gaslighting method. On the internet,
    totally unqualified assholes waging flame wars regularly try to
    weaponize psychological diagnosis. And in our bizarre 'post-truth'
    world, even the President seems to be a great fit for multiple
    disturbing diagnoses. But how is one to claim he is 'impaired'?
    He became the president, didn't he?

    Still, I honestly do think Trump is a pathological individual who has
    managed to obtain ultimate power. We'll all be lucky to get out of
    the situation alive.

    .

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  • From jewedus@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 03, 2018 12:12:13
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://ktla.com/2018/09/01/california-democratic-leaders-call-for-in-n-out-boycott-met-by-resistance-from-own-party/

    how fucking dumb would you have to be to inspire people
    to boycott In n Out hamburgers. The dumbest shit i've
    ever seen. You know in and out donated to the demos too.
    $25,000 donation, for christs sake, they wipe their ass
    with more donation than that. 25K ain't nothing. And
    to fucking boycott. You gotta be kiddin. What dumb shits.
    even their own party members don't take it seriously.

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  • From jewedus@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 03, 2018 12:14:35
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    in fact i'm gonna go down to the local in & out and score
    a burger just for the fuck of it. Maybe i'll buy a t-shirt
    too to show my support. Demos can suck it.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 03, 2018 13:58:29
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    September 03, 2018

    California Democratic Party Chairman Eric Bauman drove into Fresno on Monday, where he attended a Labor Day breakfast and addressed his recent tweet about boycotting fast food chain In-N-Out.

    Bauman made little mention of his tweet during his short speech to the hundreds
    at the Fresno Fairgrounds for an event organized by the Central Labor Council.

    But he did speak afterward about it.

    “There is no boycott,” Bauman said. “I put one tweet out at 10:30 at night and it turned into a whole thing. We’ve raised so much money in small donations as a result of that one tweet and so many people have engaged with that tweet, almost a
    million people, so it’s amazing how it became this big boycott.”

    Bauman tweeted from his account on Wednesday, using the hashtag #BoycottInNOut and sharing info about the fast food chain’s $25,000 donation to the GOP.

    @EricBauman
    Et tu In-N-Out? Tens of thousands of dollars donated to the California Republican Party... it’s time to #BoycottInNOut - let Trump and his cronies support these creeps... perhaps animal style!

    Earlier this week, the state party’s communications director said that the boycott was Bauman’s personal view, and was not being taken as an official stance.

    Bauman seemed not to be taking the tweet seriously, either. He said he wasn’t
    even personally boycotting the fast food restaurant.

    “Are you kidding me?” Bauman said, laughing. “I’m gonna buy my staff In-N-Out burgers to celebrate our victory.”

    .

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  • From jewedus@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 03, 2018 14:25:33
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    bullshit, chicken-shit back peddle.
    no go here, you're fucking out again.
    strike 3 bozo.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to jewedus on Monday, September 03, 2018 14:41:22
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 2:25:34 PM UTC-7, jewedus wrote:
    bullshit, chicken-shit back peddle.
    no go here, you're fucking out again.
    strike 3 bozo.

    It seems you're merely incorrect again. I'm right here.
    Don't worry though, you were right about one thing: we are done.
    Not because you said so though, but because now *I* do.

    .

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  • From jewedus@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 03, 2018 15:31:59
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    It seems you're merely incorrect again. I'm right here.
    Don't worry though, you were right about one thing: we are done.
    Not because you said so though, but because now *I* do.

    geez i was wondering when you were going *to get it*.
    slow learner or just stupid?

    i take stupid and psycho.
    i had to practically rub your face into your shit
    before you began to smell. slow learner for sure, lol!
    hey and YOU get to be in total control now.
    Gasbag men want that control, you got it homes.
    Rule the world pinche cavron. Who would want
    to be a friend to you? look at your track record?
    yeah they all left YOU holding the bag didn't they?
    Poor baby huey, always getting fucked by life.
    Hasta la vista never pendejo. twerp cunt.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to jewedus on Monday, September 03, 2018 16:04:25
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    On Monday, September 3, 2018 at 3:32:00 PM UTC-7, jewedus wrote:
    It seems you're merely incorrect again. I'm right here.
    Don't worry though, you were right about one thing: we are done.
    Not because you said so though, but because now *I* do.

    geez i was wondering when you were going *to get it*.
    slow learner or just stupid?

    i take stupid and psycho.
    i had to practically rub your face into your shit
    before you began to smell. slow learner for sure, lol!
    hey and YOU get to be in total control now.
    Gasbag men want that control, you got it homes.
    Rule the world pinche cavron. Who would want
    to be a friend to you? look at your track record?
    yeah they all left YOU holding the bag didn't they?
    Poor baby huey, always getting fucked by life.
    Hasta la vista never pendejo. twerp cunt.

    Still guessing it was the alcoholism thing? Too bad if that's it.

    .

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  • From jewedus@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 03, 2018 16:51:26
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    Still guessing it was the alcoholism thing? Too bad if that's it.

    what the fuck i thought you said you were done?
    wtf happened lol! did you relapse?
    i think you listened to one too many cult talks
    from cult leaders or some other bamboozler.

    Alcoholism? jesus, what you're head of Synannon now?
    Gonna put a snake in the mailbox are you?
    too bad you'll NEVER know what the fuck you are
    trying to do or talk about here. I call big time
    BULLSHIT DELUXE ON YOU. now you promised you were
    done. Going to re-nig on your promise?
    Honky please. Stay on the porch, you won't
    ever be able to run with big dogs. wolf wolf :)
    hey go have a drink, maybe you'll see something.

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  • From Jeremy H. Donovan@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 03, 2018 16:55:57
    From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

    Alcoholism?

    You didn't actually answer that question.

    .

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  • From jewedus@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, September 05, 2018 09:23:18
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    the narc in residence proclaims:

    It seems you're merely incorrect again. I'm right here.
    Don't worry though, you were right about one thing: we are done.
    Not because you said so though, but because now *I* do.


    sieg heil

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