From: allreadydun@gmail.com

so does this mean we are changing the name
of this place to "alt.dreams.Aherne" now?

all done with the sorcerer formerly known
as Carlos Cashinonyourass? cha-chinger.
if you could just get some money flowing
your way Brian, your dream would come in.

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From: slider@anashram.com

not yet WILD enough wrote...

so does this mean we are changing the name
of this place to "alt.dreams.Aherne" now?

### - can ya send money? then no :D hahaha

all done with the sorcerer formerly known
as Carlos Cashinonyourass? cha-chinger.
if you could just get some money flowing
your way Brian, your dream would come in.

### - smile, 4 fivers have flutterd down to me literally outta nowhere
just in the last few days (manna descending indeed from heaven lol; homer
in chocolate land lol...) so it's raining alright albeit rather slowly currently heh (it's just spitting-rain...) but with 'plugs' like that from recognised dudes in the dream community, it could just turn into a decent shower too! (alright you don't know him, i didn't either, but apparently
he's quite well known, took his masters in lucid dreaming?? wow...) ;)

plus & oh well, you'll eventually get around to 'dreaming-awake' at some
point huh (grinz at the jolt to your body heh...)

or maybe not, what with jeremy forever terrified it might all turn back
into summat he don't want ahaha! (sorry, but i canny-help having my
mischievous side hehehe...) he's been keepin' you in-line pal! he's not a freedom-maker but is in fact: a capturer! (one of the old 'den of vipers'
of old, who typically guard the temple and enters not into themselves +
wont let anyone else enter either... old jc hated that bunch! hehehe...)

have been 'trying' to keep it (the dreaming stuff) all to just one or 2 threads, although even that seems too much for some peeps hah... what with people 'clamoring' about trump and idiots actually giving it to him hehehe
- just LOOK what we have to put up/contend with?? we're being hit with not
a smoke-screen but a trump-screen! :)

i do, however, obviously consider it (our 'ability' to WILD i mean) to be important + there is, of course, quite a lot more to it all than just any initially amusing aspects alone (the 'midway point' for example, that's actually a very important development but which is practically useless to discuss with anyone who hasn't yet experienced it or it all just sounds
like crazy nonsense: being in more than one place at a time? like what
'good' is that mate?? lol, but it's the midway resulting 'awareness'
that's actually important; it opens genuine doors!)

why important? because peeps 'want' something in their lives that
genuinely expands their awareness, whether it be yoga or meditation, or
even dancing naked at the stroke of midnight in the woods or whatever
haha; they's all lookin' for 'something' innit, preferably something
'real' that might lend some kinda deeper meaning (or even reveal one to
them) that's more than just working like a mule all their lives for shit,
and then all ya gets to show for it being a kick in the pants at the end?

and there IS more! most certainly there is! but they's all been having a hellish time trying to find it, and this while putting up with crap in the meantime that's ultimately all only a waste of time (cults and what have
you that are, in reality, only giant milking-machines feeding-off of that
same yearning need!)

and well, an ability to WILD will end all that! no doubt some cults will
again arise trying to claim it for themselves, trying to 'direct' it for whatever selfish purposes, but once someone reaches that 'midway-point' awareness ALL that crap is left firmly behind! you're on your own from
that midway point on boss! don't need no instruction, guidance, nada! and because it's all there for ya to just help yourself to like fruit hangin'
on a damn tree! from that point one can finally help-thyself!

WILDs in that sense are like a unifying theory of everything heh, our
innate 'ability' to WILD ultimately having given rise to all the various
other forms, who've then 'made' it into this or that depending on culture
and all the rest of it... but WILDs are at the roots of it, are the
'basis' for all the rest! (which just in itself is interesting!) and which
when presented in its pure form (as i've attempted to do) will surely
dispel all the rest by explaining them away!

my book being/representing then merely a basis + bald outline of what's involved, the details/text & blanks of which will be confirmed/debunked
and/or otherwise filled-in by others as they go along, so all i've really
done (and attempted to do) is to point a particular direction + ask a
bunch of related/relevant questions so they don't go wandering off...

we gots to get back to our ROOTS people!

ROOTS MON! - ROOTS! :)))

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ht_LmHjS7Q

(wrote this 30 years ago + which had to be stolen by this band in order to
get released...)

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

what IF this is all there is?
just this. nothing more.

oh gonna be a whole lotta religious
freaks shittin' their pants at the
end. this is as good as it gets?
better make it good, don't be farting
around with horseshit. right ?

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From: slider@anashram.com

what IF this is all there is?
just this. nothing more.

oh gonna be a whole lotta religious
freaks shittin' their pants at the
end. this is as good as it gets?
better make it good, don't be farting
around with horseshit. right ?

### - the ability to quite consciously + deliberately enter into altered
states of awareness and explore/probe them in a more controlled + sober
manner, isn't horseshit... it's an utterly intrinsic + fundamental part of ourselves (and probably all life) that we've apparently cut ourselves off
from over incredibly long periods of time, and until all we know about it today being strange tales, quite ordinary random/unconscious dreams + that
of occasionally messin' around with getting out of it via drink & drugs
and/or even via religious fervour; one that merely remains relatively unexplored/mapped in & by modern standards is all, due mainly to all the
taboos that've been placed on (or near) it over time...

horseshit... is to live a life devoid of being fully aware of ourselves
and all the things we can do while being alive! horseshit is to live a
life of just living to work instead of working to live?

yes this IS as good as it gets in... wallyworld! (that shit hole!)

fortunately, there's more to life & living than just sealing oneself away inside a clockwork orange for life heh, and thank goodness there is! true,
we lack the missing + relevant cultural reference points, but can find
them again no problem due to the alternate + unwavering 'nature' of
knowledge existing at/beyond that midway point...

this being something you'll have too personally see/experience directly
for yourself (or anyone) to 'really' understand... the closest cc came to
it in 'his' terms being his concept of 'silent knowledge' heh ;)

lay down, be silent, and your awareness will slowly shift to include the awareness of mild hypnagogia... hang there & keep watching them, don't
fall asleep and they get a whole heap clearer, then examine one of 'em
more closely and allow yourself to be pulled/zoomed into a WILD as you currently 'are' in the full awareness of what you're doing, and now you're
in another reality (one with which you're already quite familiar with so
no biggie, although perforce everything in it will appear far more vividly
than usual...), then, over few more sessions, get used to the more
volitional aspects of having done this by stepping in and out of lucid
dream states at will and until you discover the midway point, linger there
and play around with your awareness under such circumstances, note how
standing at that particular spot enhances everything else to the point of complete volition, note too how by doing that for long enough awareness
deepens noticeably yet again until that of lucid dreaming and/or waking up become utterly equal options compared to each other... play with all that
a while to confirm, and by now another 'type' of awareness altogether
emerges, a completely + utterly detached one/mood! one that snatches knowledge/understanding right outta the air and hands it to ya on a
plate! have a good long soak in that tub before waking up out of it + note
then how you've carried that same completely detached awareness back with
you into the waking world (usually for several hours afterwards) and then look/gaze at the waking world (wallyworld heh) 'from' that pov and tell me
it's not important hehehe ;)

then just do that a few more times (again to confirm) + note how your
overall awareness (of the world) has changed/is changing (expanding
actually) to include this new found ability to be more complete/whole...
note there's a distinct feeling of harmony & ease that goes along with it
all, nature apparently restoreth our humanity...

smile, this isn't just about lucid dreaming pal, lucid dreaming is only
one clue/hint of what we can (and should be) doing all along, the
proverbial tip of the iceberg, an inroad only and thus only 'one' aspect
of it all (again totally unexplored so who knows what that might also
actually contain just in the purely ld-ing-side of it all, that's still anyone's guess apart from weird rumours & myths of ap/obe/parallel worlds
etc, it's another unknown...)

yes chris, the horseshit has to end! the pure horseshit of fake people
living fake lives in fake realities hehehe... people literally raised to
be suckers instead of being raised to be increasingly aware... that shit
really has to end! :)

down with wallyworld!?

(t-shirts/next title? really laffing, nah it'll just fade away all by
itself from lack of attention)

:)

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From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

On Friday, August 17, 2018 at 11:30:14 AM UTC-7, feewilly wrote:

what IF this is all there is?
just this. nothing more.

oh gonna be a whole lotta religious
freaks shittin' their pants at the
end. this is as good as it gets?
better make it good, don't be farting
around with horseshit. right ?

There's a practically infinite real universe around you that
is 13.5 billion years of incredibly complex evolution unfolding,
and you know very little about it. How much MORE do you want? :)

.

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