• Re: it's your move

    From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 12:30:06
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Pascal's wager is dramatic but dull. I can explain why in 2 sentences:

    It's not really about what happens when you die. It's really about
    the only time you're ever *certain* to have - your time spent alive.

    Thus, the act of will is to say: fuck Pascal's wager.
    Doesn't mean shit. Because what really matters is how you live. :)

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 13:43:14
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Perhaps it would be good to elaborate just a little.
    I think Pascal's wager is downright dumb. Here's why.

    There's not merely ONE possibility for what may happen after death.
    If you want to entertain that idea, there are many possibilities.
    Will I find myself in Tibetan Buddhist Bardo going through a 72
    hour dream sequence? Will I be floating confused and not knowing
    what to do until my last "programming" kicks in, as Scientologists
    might claim? Will I go before "God", as Pascal wanted to wager?
    Will I suddenly be in some "elf realm" with sadistic creatures
    building fires under my balls, or go straight to Satan no matter
    what I believed since I was "a bad boy"? Will I find myself facing
    Thor with his hammer? There could be a hundred other possibilities
    and no one knows. So it's NOT really a coin flip. The possibilities
    are many and are unknown.

    Thus, the coin flip is meaningless.

    The only thing you actually know is that all of the billion
    people who lived before you dropped dead and you know nothing
    further about what happened to ANY of them if anything did,
    which is doubtful. And that's one thing you KNOW.

    Therefore the coin-flip is meaningless. (But if you're faced with
    some psychopath telling you to call it then yeah, call it heads. :) )

    Moreover, and this to me is an even better point. After I die,
    if I DO somehow find myself still alive, then... I'm still alive. :)
    And THEN I'll still make whatever choices I'm offered just as I
    do now and just as I've always done. Everything I know about
    the world leads me to doubt that I'll somehow 'still be alive'
    after death, so I think there's just about a zero chance of that
    happening, but if it does happen I'm FINE with it because it
    would be nothing different than I've ever done: to be alive
    and to choose from the real options I have available.

    So once again, the wager is meaningless. :)

    Last point, perhaps stronger still. If I live a sincere life with
    integrity and do my best, and don't go out of my way to harm others
    then even if there was a 'God' that wanted to 'judge me' after
    death, what do I care? I did the best I could with the knowledge
    I had. Is it my fault 'God' left me some 'holy books' that were
    utterly unconvincing to my razor sharp mind? :) What 'God' would
    determine that I was so very terrible among all others here?
    I'd have little to fear because I lived the best life I could
    based on all the information I truly had.

    So once again, I don't give a tiny shit about any coin-flip "wager". :)
    Heh.

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  • From feewilly@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 07:27:33
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKyp9rGzZ20

    check mate

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