it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
### - dunno that you're supposed to 'worry' about it, so much as being
(more/increasingly) aware that it's *never* the right time to settle
down
and that's it and now it's all set in stone, forever, kinda thing?
(maybe
in fairytales but never in real life?)
how about if these two powers start blowing the shit out of
each other? of course i'm NOT suppose to worry about it.
What me worry? wtf, of course there will be concern.
there are actual people aboard ships in those seas.
of course we have smoking aircraft flying high above to
pop the shit out of anything they got.
### - dunno that you're supposed to 'worry' about it, so much as being (more/increasingly) aware that it's *never* the right time to settle down
and that's it and now it's all set in stone, forever, kinda thing? (maybe
in fairytales but never in real life?)
(ultimately it's just a reminder from life not to fall the fuck asleep
again is all, to NOT live complacently?) :)
"everyone dies, it's just a matter of when" --paul newman in 'hombre'
yeah when you die you won't know you are dead.
what say about that? see, no worries. :)
(ultimately it's just a reminder from life not to fall the fuck asleep
again is all, to NOT live complacently?) :)
"everyone dies, it's just a matter of when" --paul newman in 'hombre'
LONDON (REUTERS) - The US Navy stands ready to ensure free navigation and
the flow of commerce, the US military's Central Command said on Thursday >(July 5), as Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned they would block oil >shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if necessary.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and some senior military commanders have >threatened in recent days to disrupt oil shipments from the Gulf countries
if Washington tries to cut Teheran's exports.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-navy-says-will-protect-commerce-as-iran-threatens-to-block-oil-shipments
Praising Rouhani's "firm stance" against the United States, the head of
the Revolutionary Guards said on Thursday their forces were ready to block >the strait which links the Gulf to the open sea.
In May, US President Donald Trump pulled out of a multinational deal under >which sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for curbs to its nuclear >programme. Washington has since told countries they must stop buying
Iranian oil from Nov 4 or face financial measures.
If Iran cannot sell its oil under US pressure, then no other regional
country will be allowed to either, said Mohammad Ali Jafari, who commands
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iran's most powerful military force.
"We are hopeful that this plan expressed by our president will be
implemented if needed... We will make the enemy understand that either all >can use the Strait of Hormuz or no one," Jafari was quoted as saying by >Tasnim news agency.
The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in the
world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through each >day.
"The US and its partners provide, and promote security and stability in
the region," Central Command spokesman Navy Captain Bill Urban said in an >email to Reuters.
Asked what would be the US Naval Forces' reaction if Iran blocks the
strait, he said: "Together, we stand ready to ensure the freedom of >navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law
allows."
The Guards' naval arm lacks a strong conventional fleet. However, it has
many speed boats and portable anti-ship missile launchers, and can lay
mines.
A senior US military leader said in 2012 the Guards have the ability to
block the strait "for a period of time" but the United States would take >action to reopen it in such an event.
### - here we go again at an older flash point?
i.e.; "The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in
the world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through
each day."
versus: "the United States would take action to reopen it in such an
event."
iow: a 'direct' conflict between iran and the US unless sorted >diplomatically, something they've always avoided before...
not good!
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:05:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
LONDON (REUTERS) - The US Navy stands ready to ensure free navigation
and
the flow of commerce, the US military's Central Command said on Thursday
(July 5), as Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned they would block oil
shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if necessary.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and some senior military commanders
have
threatened in recent days to disrupt oil shipments from the Gulf
countries
if Washington tries to cut Teheran's exports.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-navy-says-will-protect-commerce-as-iran-threatens-to-block-oil-shipments
Praising Rouhani's "firm stance" against the United States, the head of
the Revolutionary Guards said on Thursday their forces were ready to
block
the strait which links the Gulf to the open sea.
In May, US President Donald Trump pulled out of a multinational deal
under
which sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for curbs to its nuclear
programme. Washington has since told countries they must stop buying
Iranian oil from Nov 4 or face financial measures.
If Iran cannot sell its oil under US pressure, then no other regional
country will be allowed to either, said Mohammad Ali Jafari, who
commands
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iran's most powerful military
force.
"We are hopeful that this plan expressed by our president will be
implemented if needed... We will make the enemy understand that either
all
can use the Strait of Hormuz or no one," Jafari was quoted as saying by
Tasnim news agency.
The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in the
world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through
each
day.
"The US and its partners provide, and promote security and stability in
the region," Central Command spokesman Navy Captain Bill Urban said in
an
email to Reuters.
Asked what would be the US Naval Forces' reaction if Iran blocks the
strait, he said: "Together, we stand ready to ensure the freedom of
navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law
allows."
The Guards' naval arm lacks a strong conventional fleet. However, it has
many speed boats and portable anti-ship missile launchers, and can lay
mines.
A senior US military leader said in 2012 the Guards have the ability to
block the strait "for a period of time" but the United States would take
action to reopen it in such an event.
### - here we go again at an older flash point?
i.e.; "The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in
the world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through
each day."
versus: "the United States would take action to reopen it in such an
event."
iow: a 'direct' conflict between iran and the US unless sorted
diplomatically, something they've always avoided before...
not good!
For Pete's sake! Not another one. There is NO way Iran is going to
take on the US. No way.
Want another $50 on this one too? I'll give you 12 months on this
one, not 6 like our DPRK bet.
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss. Say
fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:05:03 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:05:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
LONDON (REUTERS) - The US Navy stands ready to ensure free navigation
and
the flow of commerce, the US military's Central Command said on Thursday >>> (July 5), as Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned they would block oil
shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if necessary.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and some senior military commanders
have
threatened in recent days to disrupt oil shipments from the Gulf
countries
if Washington tries to cut Teheran's exports.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-navy-says-will-protect-commerce-as-iran-threatens-to-block-oil-shipments
Praising Rouhani's "firm stance" against the United States, the head of
the Revolutionary Guards said on Thursday their forces were ready to
block
the strait which links the Gulf to the open sea.
In May, US President Donald Trump pulled out of a multinational deal
under
which sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for curbs to its nuclear
programme. Washington has since told countries they must stop buying
Iranian oil from Nov 4 or face financial measures.
If Iran cannot sell its oil under US pressure, then no other regional
country will be allowed to either, said Mohammad Ali Jafari, who
commands
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iran's most powerful military
force.
"We are hopeful that this plan expressed by our president will be
implemented if needed... We will make the enemy understand that either
all
can use the Strait of Hormuz or no one," Jafari was quoted as saying by
Tasnim news agency.
The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in the
world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through
each
day.
"The US and its partners provide, and promote security and stability in
the region," Central Command spokesman Navy Captain Bill Urban said in
an
email to Reuters.
Asked what would be the US Naval Forces' reaction if Iran blocks the
strait, he said: "Together, we stand ready to ensure the freedom of
navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law
allows."
The Guards' naval arm lacks a strong conventional fleet. However, it has >>> many speed boats and portable anti-ship missile launchers, and can lay
mines.
A senior US military leader said in 2012 the Guards have the ability to
block the strait "for a period of time" but the United States would take >>> action to reopen it in such an event.
### - here we go again at an older flash point?
i.e.; "The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in >>> the world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through >>> each day."
versus: "the United States would take action to reopen it in such an
event."
iow: a 'direct' conflict between iran and the US unless sorted
diplomatically, something they've always avoided before...
not good!
For Pete's sake! Not another one. There is NO way Iran is going to
take on the US. No way.
Want another $50 on this one too? I'll give you 12 months on this
one, not 6 like our DPRK bet.
### - it's just one of the bigger cards in irans' deck; they could, if
they wanted to, blockade anything that goes through those straits! and
would the US really then attack iran directly to keep it open as they
claim? (they've conflicted before but never directly, mainly because
'that' could be taken/construed as being an attack upon islam per se! and
i don't think the US is quite ready to do that... yet?)
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:31 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss. Say
fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
### - considering the subject matter methinks he's talkin' about biting
his fingernails down to the stubs + stressing re being blown to bits re
ww3 :)
it's always about the money.
and don't you forget it.
(in a mexican accent)
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:34:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:31 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss. Say
fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
### - considering the subject matter methinks he's talkin' about biting
his fingernails down to the stubs + stressing re being blown to bits re
ww3 :)
My experience with the term "indulge" in context of stress is - drugs. Generally, the harder variety.
Again, a little clarity wouldn't go astray, would it?
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:43:35 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:05:03 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:05:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
LONDON (REUTERS) - The US Navy stands ready to ensure free navigation
and
the flow of commerce, the US military's Central Command said on
Thursday
(July 5), as Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned they would block oil
shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if necessary.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and some senior military commanders
have
threatened in recent days to disrupt oil shipments from the Gulf
countries
if Washington tries to cut Teheran's exports.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-navy-says-will-protect-commerce-as-iran-threatens-to-block-oil-shipments
Praising Rouhani's "firm stance" against the United States, the head
of
the Revolutionary Guards said on Thursday their forces were ready to
block
the strait which links the Gulf to the open sea.
In May, US President Donald Trump pulled out of a multinational deal
under
which sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for curbs to its nuclear >>>> programme. Washington has since told countries they must stop buying
Iranian oil from Nov 4 or face financial measures.
If Iran cannot sell its oil under US pressure, then no other regional
country will be allowed to either, said Mohammad Ali Jafari, who
commands
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iran's most powerful military
force.
"We are hopeful that this plan expressed by our president will be
implemented if needed... We will make the enemy understand that either >>>> all
can use the Strait of Hormuz or no one," Jafari was quoted as saying
by
Tasnim news agency.
The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in the
world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through
each
day.
"The US and its partners provide, and promote security and stability
in
the region," Central Command spokesman Navy Captain Bill Urban said in >>>> an
email to Reuters.
Asked what would be the US Naval Forces' reaction if Iran blocks the
strait, he said: "Together, we stand ready to ensure the freedom of
navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law
allows."
The Guards' naval arm lacks a strong conventional fleet. However, it
has
many speed boats and portable anti-ship missile launchers, and can lay >>>> mines.
A senior US military leader said in 2012 the Guards have the ability
to
block the strait "for a period of time" but the United States would
take
action to reopen it in such an event.
### - here we go again at an older flash point?
i.e.; "The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel
in
the world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing
through
each day."
versus: "the United States would take action to reopen it in such an
event."
iow: a 'direct' conflict between iran and the US unless sorted
diplomatically, something they've always avoided before...
not good!
For Pete's sake! Not another one. There is NO way Iran is going to
take on the US. No way.
Want another $50 on this one too? I'll give you 12 months on this
one, not 6 like our DPRK bet.
### - it's just one of the bigger cards in irans' deck; they could, if
they wanted to, blockade anything that goes through those straits! and
would the US really then attack iran directly to keep it open as they
claim? (they've conflicted before but never directly, mainly because
'that' could be taken/construed as being an attack upon islam per se!
and
i don't think the US is quite ready to do that... yet?)
They might look narrow on Google Earth, but the straits are about 50km
wide. The only way to blockade that with an antiquated third world
Muslim pile of shit "navy" is by dropping mines everywhere.
That would be an act of war and after the bombing by not only the US
but the UK as well, there wouldn't be much coastline left of Iran or
of Tehran. They know this. Therefore, they will not drop mines in the Straits of Hormuz.
Now get back to your Dungeons and Dragons ok?
Trump says:
To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES
AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW
THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A
COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH.
BE CAUTIOUS!
Trump isn't doing squat in Syria now, more or less abandoning it
to Assad and Putin. Britain is among those helping Israel evacuate
the 'white hats' over there, as the authoritarian regime returns.
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 23:01:30 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
Trump isn't doing squat in Syria now, more or less abandoning it
to Assad and Putin. Britain is among those helping Israel evacuate
the 'white hats' over there, as the authoritarian regime returns.
### - basically doesn't need to as syria's already a mess its gonna take years to recover from after 7-odd years of western-backed war + is a safe enough bet it's certainly no longer in a position to rally to anyone
else's aid that's for sure... how come you couldn't work that out for yourself?
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 23:01:30 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
Trump isn't doing squat in Syria now, more or less abandoning it
to Assad and Putin. Britain is among those helping Israel evacuate
the 'white hats' over there, as the authoritarian regime returns.
### - basically doesn't need to as syria's already a mess its gonna take
years to recover from after 7-odd years of western-backed war + is a
safe
enough bet it's certainly no longer in a position to rally to anyone
else's aid that's for sure... how come you couldn't work that out for
yourself?
Work what out? You didn't really say jack.
On Tue, 24 Jul 2018 07:39:41 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
On Monday, July 23, 2018 at 4:16:22 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 23:01:30 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
Trump isn't doing squat in Syria now, more or less abandoning it
to Assad and Putin. Britain is among those helping Israel evacuate
the 'white hats' over there, as the authoritarian regime returns.
### - basically doesn't need to as syria's already a mess its gonna take >> years to recover from after 7-odd years of western-backed war + is a
safe
enough bet it's certainly no longer in a position to rally to anyone
else's aid that's for sure... how come you couldn't work that out for
yourself?
Work what out? You didn't really say jack.
### - work out duh... that the middle east is obviously now in 'enough'
chaos to fragment islam enough to no longer represent a unified threat
should the west attack iran 'after' syria! what else?? duh...
after all, that was the context it was said in! and you couldn't even work 'that' out either?? lol :)
i.e., that there's been systematic 'chaos' created in the middle east one country after another in order to obviate the risk of islam maybe uniting
and coming together enough under pressure to declare one of their holy
wars against the west! (historically, the muslims have been known to temporarily put aside all personal inter-muslim squabbles in order to
unite against a common infidel! and syria was the last powerful/armed
nation who might have potentially intervened, their own country now in
such a state that such an enterprise would now be impossible, iran thus
now virtually standing all on its own as the last major bastion of islam,
and now with no one left to come to their aid... cut off the head of the islam-chicken (iran) and islam is gonna die out as a competing ideology in the world, leaving only china & russia left after that to deal with!)
hahaha you're a lousy world-history student jeremy :)
"systematic chaos created in the Middle East" LOL. What idiocy.
By your own admission all of your words
are lies, you have no control over your
own actions, and everything you do is
an illusion. Who would want to talk to
someone like that? LOL. :)
You have no choice over who you talk to either. :)
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:45:52 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:43:35 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:05:03 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:05:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
LONDON (REUTERS) - The US Navy stands ready to ensure free navigation >>>>> and
the flow of commerce, the US military's Central Command said on
Thursday
(July 5), as Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned they would block oil >>>>> shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if necessary.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and some senior military commanders >>>>> have
threatened in recent days to disrupt oil shipments from the Gulf
countries
if Washington tries to cut Teheran's exports.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-navy-says-will-protect-commerce-as-iran-threatens-to-block-oil-shipments
Praising Rouhani's "firm stance" against the United States, the head >>>>> of
the Revolutionary Guards said on Thursday their forces were ready to >>>>> block
the strait which links the Gulf to the open sea.
In May, US President Donald Trump pulled out of a multinational deal >>>>> under
which sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for curbs to its nuclear >>>>> programme. Washington has since told countries they must stop buying >>>>> Iranian oil from Nov 4 or face financial measures.
If Iran cannot sell its oil under US pressure, then no other regional >>>>> country will be allowed to either, said Mohammad Ali Jafari, who
commands
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iran's most powerful military >>>>> force.
"We are hopeful that this plan expressed by our president will be
implemented if needed... We will make the enemy understand that either >>>>> all
can use the Strait of Hormuz or no one," Jafari was quoted as saying >>>>> by
Tasnim news agency.
The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in the >>>>> world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through >>>>> each
day.
"The US and its partners provide, and promote security and stability >>>>> in
the region," Central Command spokesman Navy Captain Bill Urban said in >>>>> an
email to Reuters.
Asked what would be the US Naval Forces' reaction if Iran blocks the >>>>> strait, he said: "Together, we stand ready to ensure the freedom of
navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law
allows."
The Guards' naval arm lacks a strong conventional fleet. However, it >>>>> has
many speed boats and portable anti-ship missile launchers, and can lay >>>>> mines.
A senior US military leader said in 2012 the Guards have the ability >>>>> to
block the strait "for a period of time" but the United States would
take
action to reopen it in such an event.
### - here we go again at an older flash point?
i.e.; "The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel >>>>> in
the world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing
through
each day."
versus: "the United States would take action to reopen it in such an >>>>> event."
iow: a 'direct' conflict between iran and the US unless sorted
diplomatically, something they've always avoided before...
not good!
For Pete's sake! Not another one. There is NO way Iran is going to
take on the US. No way.
Want another $50 on this one too? I'll give you 12 months on this
one, not 6 like our DPRK bet.
### - it's just one of the bigger cards in irans' deck; they could, if
they wanted to, blockade anything that goes through those straits! and
would the US really then attack iran directly to keep it open as they
claim? (they've conflicted before but never directly, mainly because
'that' could be taken/construed as being an attack upon islam per se!
and
i don't think the US is quite ready to do that... yet?)
They might look narrow on Google Earth, but the straits are about 50km
wide. The only way to blockade that with an antiquated third world
Muslim pile of shit "navy" is by dropping mines everywhere.
### - not just mines but also shore to ship missiles and other shit am
sure! (they could defo blockade those straits if they wanted to, and then
the US would be 'forced' to respond (like a forced move in chess) but >perforce the US doesn't want open conflict with iran (at least not yet) >because it wouldn't just end there if ya go fucking with the heart of
islam! (iow: first they gots to 'disable' all the 'other' branches of
islam first and then there'll be no one to come to their aid... else
what's left of islam would unite, and one of the first things they'd
likely do is attempt to wipe out israel...)
That would be an act of war and after the bombing by not only the US
but the UK as well, there wouldn't be much coastline left of Iran or
of Tehran. They know this. Therefore, they will not drop mines in the
Straits of Hormuz.
### - kicking-off an open + direct conflict isn't something the US (or the >rest of the world) is ready for... yet... for all the above reasons >mentioned...
Now get back to your Dungeons and Dragons ok?
### - heh :)
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:50:38 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:34:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:31 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss. Say >>>> fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
### - considering the subject matter methinks he's talkin' about biting
his fingernails down to the stubs + stressing re being blown to bits re
ww3 :)
My experience with the term "indulge" in context of stress is - drugs.
Generally, the harder variety.
Again, a little clarity wouldn't go astray, would it?
### - people can (and do) also indulge in self-absorption; being obsessed, >for example, is just another form of indulgence: self-indulgence... just
like you quite often indulge (yourself) in being violent and blaming it on >evolution instead of resisting it haha :)
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:14:53 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:45:52 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:43:35 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:05:03 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:05:32 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
LONDON (REUTERS) - The US Navy stands ready to ensure free
navigation
and
the flow of commerce, the US military's Central Command said on
Thursday
(July 5), as Iran's Revolutionary Guards warned they would block oil >>>>>> shipments through the Strait of Hormuz if necessary.
Iranian President Hassan Rouhani and some senior military commanders >>>>>> have
threatened in recent days to disrupt oil shipments from the Gulf
countries
if Washington tries to cut Teheran's exports.
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/middle-east/us-navy-says-will-protect-commerce-as-iran-threatens-to-block-oil-shipments
Praising Rouhani's "firm stance" against the United States, the head >>>>>> of
the Revolutionary Guards said on Thursday their forces were ready to >>>>>> block
the strait which links the Gulf to the open sea.
In May, US President Donald Trump pulled out of a multinational deal >>>>>> under
which sanctions on Iran were lifted in return for curbs to its
nuclear
programme. Washington has since told countries they must stop buying >>>>>> Iranian oil from Nov 4 or face financial measures.
If Iran cannot sell its oil under US pressure, then no other
regional
country will be allowed to either, said Mohammad Ali Jafari, who
commands
the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Iran's most powerful military >>>>>> force.
"We are hopeful that this plan expressed by our president will be
implemented if needed... We will make the enemy understand that
either
all
can use the Strait of Hormuz or no one," Jafari was quoted as saying >>>>>> by
Tasnim news agency.
The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit channel in
the
world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing through >>>>>> each
day.
"The US and its partners provide, and promote security and stability >>>>>> in
the region," Central Command spokesman Navy Captain Bill Urban said >>>>>> in
an
email to Reuters.
Asked what would be the US Naval Forces' reaction if Iran blocks the >>>>>> strait, he said: "Together, we stand ready to ensure the freedom of >>>>>> navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law >>>>>> allows."
The Guards' naval arm lacks a strong conventional fleet. However, it >>>>>> has
many speed boats and portable anti-ship missile launchers, and can >>>>>> lay
mines.
A senior US military leader said in 2012 the Guards have the ability >>>>>> to
block the strait "for a period of time" but the United States would >>>>>> take
action to reopen it in such an event.
### - here we go again at an older flash point?
i.e.; "The Strait of Hormuz is the most important oil transit
channel
in
the world with about one-fifth of global oil consumption passing
through
each day."
versus: "the United States would take action to reopen it in such an >>>>>> event."
iow: a 'direct' conflict between iran and the US unless sorted
diplomatically, something they've always avoided before...
not good!
For Pete's sake! Not another one. There is NO way Iran is going to >>>>> take on the US. No way.
Want another $50 on this one too? I'll give you 12 months on this
one, not 6 like our DPRK bet.
### - it's just one of the bigger cards in irans' deck; they could, if >>>> they wanted to, blockade anything that goes through those straits! and >>>> would the US really then attack iran directly to keep it open as they
claim? (they've conflicted before but never directly, mainly because
'that' could be taken/construed as being an attack upon islam per se!
and
i don't think the US is quite ready to do that... yet?)
They might look narrow on Google Earth, but the straits are about 50km
wide. The only way to blockade that with an antiquated third world
Muslim pile of shit "navy" is by dropping mines everywhere.
### - not just mines but also shore to ship missiles and other shit am
sure! (they could defo blockade those straits if they wanted to, and
then
the US would be 'forced' to respond (like a forced move in chess) but
perforce the US doesn't want open conflict with iran (at least not yet)
because it wouldn't just end there if ya go fucking with the heart of
islam! (iow: first they gots to 'disable' all the 'other' branches of
islam first and then there'll be no one to come to their aid... else
what's left of islam would unite, and one of the first things they'd
likely do is attempt to wipe out israel...)
Sure, and they're more advanced than the cruise missiles parked in
advanced stealthy US warships parked off the coast too :) Or the
attack subs and SLBM subs tageting Tehran. My view is, if they start
to blockade, the yanks will pepper the entire coast with low yield
nukes and take out every emplacement and then bomb the shit out of
what's left inland. Game over.
That would be an act of war and after the bombing by not only the US
but the UK as well, there wouldn't be much coastline left of Iran or
of Tehran. They know this. Therefore, they will not drop mines in the
Straits of Hormuz.
### - kicking-off an open + direct conflict isn't something the US (or
the
rest of the world) is ready for... yet... for all the above reasons
mentioned...
Are you ready? It won't happen because Iran isn't existentially
stupid enough to blockade. That will be the end of the Mullahs and
the end of the theocracy.
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:05:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:50:38 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:34:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:31 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss.
Say
fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
### - considering the subject matter methinks he's talkin' about
biting
his fingernails down to the stubs + stressing re being blown to bits
re
ww3 :)
My experience with the term "indulge" in context of stress is - drugs.
Generally, the harder variety.
Again, a little clarity wouldn't go astray, would it?
### - people can (and do) also indulge in self-absorption; being
obsessed,
for example, is just another form of indulgence: self-indulgence... just
like you quite often indulge (yourself) in being violent and blaming it
on
evolution instead of resisting it haha :)
So tell me Slider. You're in the street. It's late. There are no
police. There is a guy slapping and clearly sexually assaulting a
woman or girl in front of you. The guy has no weapon, just his fists
or hands. You don't have your phone.
It's clear that serious injury to the woman is imminent and
inevitable. There is no assistance and definitely no law enforcement.
Your question for tonight is - what do you DO? I would put that to
Jerome too, but I fear I already know what his answer would be...
thang wrote...
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:05:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:50:38 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:34:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:31 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss.
Say
fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
### - considering the subject matter methinks he's talkin' about
biting
his fingernails down to the stubs + stressing re being blown to bits >>>> re
ww3 :)
My experience with the term "indulge" in context of stress is - drugs. >>> Generally, the harder variety.
Again, a little clarity wouldn't go astray, would it?
### - people can (and do) also indulge in self-absorption; being
obsessed,
for example, is just another form of indulgence: self-indulgence... just >> like you quite often indulge (yourself) in being violent and blaming it
on
evolution instead of resisting it haha :)
So tell me Slider. You're in the street. It's late. There are no
police. There is a guy slapping and clearly sexually assaulting a
woman or girl in front of you. The guy has no weapon, just his fists
or hands. You don't have your phone.
It's clear that serious injury to the woman is imminent and
inevitable. There is no assistance and definitely no law enforcement.
Your question for tonight is - what do you DO? I would put that to
Jerome too, but I fear I already know what his answer would be...
### - i can't possibly 'predict' what i'd maybe do in the future with circumstances unknown, but i would defo do something! plus can only really tell you what kinds of things i've done in the past along similar lines...
'not' being a hulking great brute (heh) who 'explains' thing with his
fists, i perforce have to find 'other' means than smashing someone's face
in in order to interfere... a good example being my indian neighbours out back across the way here (same lot that do those honour killings etc) consisting of a father & mother and 4 little sisters... watched them all growing up into teenagers under a strict religious regime, the father
being of the highly emotional type you could often hear him berating his
kids in ways typical to that culture, almost standard if you can possibly understand their collective pov on western culture (they think we're the devil heh, and maybe we are compared to them lol...) and the 'siege' they kinda feel themselves living under in order to keep that 'devil' out of
their lives!
anyway, and to cut a longer story short, one day i caught the eldest
sister inevitably sneaking out to meet boys, and just about in front of my house too (they live in the next street but our gardens almost back onto
each other) and so there she was meeting some young boy just below my
front window heh, i didn't let them see me or know i was there but i knew what was going on + why she had to sneak around etc, besides they weren't doing anything except chatting anyway, but i was well aware of the trouble she was risking? (honour killings & beatings do indeed happen!) and, her having gotten away with it once, thus became their regular meeting
place... again, i didn't interfere any, it's none of my business + it's
not like i ever had anything to do with them even across the garden fence, but i easily could imagine the trouble that was brewing and that she was brewing for herself!
and 'coz several days later i then heard loud shouting in the street and peeped out only to see the enraged dad seriously berating her right in
front of my door hehehe (poor girl had been caught!) and he was really
giving it some! he was incensed! and getting more violent by the minute! waking away from her and then charging right back into her face! raising
his arm + his voice getting louder & louder! raising his hands at her,
anyone could see what was coming! my window was open and i stuck head out, they didn't notice me with all that going on so i waited... waiting until he'd really wound himself right up and was literally just about to strike her, and i mean really strike her! he was going for it! shaking with
temper! and as he raised his whole arm and was just about to bring it
fully down on her head and, to him, justifiably damage her, i yelled:
DON'T hurt the girl! at the top of my voice! and the whole play just ended right there and then!
you'll have to understand that these are very 'private' people who don't usually conduct their affairs in public? and that's precisely what i was counting on heh...
i then said a few more things at a much lower, more conciliatory tone, to placate the situation, such as you can't do that mate, she's only a kid
etc etc etc, just enough to embarrass him a little more, and it worked! suddenly he had to get home lol and deal with it all there! getting
carried away in public like that, nearly assaulting his daughter in public goodness knows how badly, what WAS he thinking??
looking kinda sheepish (haha don't they all?) he then marched her home no doubt to more berating, but am confident not to blows and that's all that mattered? saw she was alright later anyway, and then later her getting married hahaha and their big garden celebration, smile...
and because using 'fire' to put out a fire... isn't ideal?
'you' could have done something similar i mean, called out: look out mate
the cops are coming! (or whatever) to interrupt the chain of events...
you're penchant for violence, however, had you behaving in a completely different manner & way was all... you could have used/applied your 'intelligence' instead of your brawn in the matter, only you didn't?
but then maybe next time you will huh?
you 'resolved' the situation alright hah, but not necessarily in 'the'
most intelligent manner?
you've GOT brains! so use 'em occasionally! :)
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 6:25:14 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
thang wrote...
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:05:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>bits
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:50:38 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:34:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:31 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss.
Say
fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
### - considering the subject matter methinks he's talkin' about
biting
his fingernails down to the stubs + stressing re being blown to
drugs.re
ww3 :)
My experience with the term "indulge" in context of stress is -
justGenerally, the harder variety.
Again, a little clarity wouldn't go astray, would it?
### - people can (and do) also indulge in self-absorption; being
obsessed,
for example, is just another form of indulgence: self-indulgence...
itlike you quite often indulge (yourself) in being violent and blaming
on
evolution instead of resisting it haha :)
So tell me Slider. You're in the street. It's late. There are no
police. There is a guy slapping and clearly sexually assaulting a
woman or girl in front of you. The guy has no weapon, just his fists
or hands. You don't have your phone.
It's clear that serious injury to the woman is imminent and
inevitable. There is no assistance and definitely no law enforcement.
Your question for tonight is - what do you DO? I would put that to
Jerome too, but I fear I already know what his answer would be...
### - i can't possibly 'predict' what i'd maybe do in the future with
circumstances unknown, but i would defo do something! plus can only
really
tell you what kinds of things i've done in the past along similar
lines...
'not' being a hulking great brute (heh) who 'explains' thing with his
fists, i perforce have to find 'other' means than smashing someone's
face
in in order to interfere... a good example being my indian neighbours
out
back across the way here (same lot that do those honour killings etc)
consisting of a father & mother and 4 little sisters... watched them all
growing up into teenagers under a strict religious regime, the father
being of the highly emotional type you could often hear him berating his
kids in ways typical to that culture, almost standard if you can
possibly
understand their collective pov on western culture (they think we're the
devil heh, and maybe we are compared to them lol...) and the 'siege'
they
kinda feel themselves living under in order to keep that 'devil' out of
their lives!
anyway, and to cut a longer story short, one day i caught the eldest
sister inevitably sneaking out to meet boys, and just about in front of
my
house too (they live in the next street but our gardens almost back onto
each other) and so there she was meeting some young boy just below my
front window heh, i didn't let them see me or know i was there but i
knew
what was going on + why she had to sneak around etc, besides they
weren't
doing anything except chatting anyway, but i was well aware of the
trouble
she was risking? (honour killings & beatings do indeed happen!) and, her
having gotten away with it once, thus became their regular meeting
place... again, i didn't interfere any, it's none of my business + it's
not like i ever had anything to do with them even across the garden
fence,
but i easily could imagine the trouble that was brewing and that she was
brewing for herself!
and 'coz several days later i then heard loud shouting in the street and
peeped out only to see the enraged dad seriously berating her right in
front of my door hehehe (poor girl had been caught!) and he was really
giving it some! he was incensed! and getting more violent by the minute!
waking away from her and then charging right back into her face! raising
his arm + his voice getting louder & louder! raising his hands at her,
anyone could see what was coming! my window was open and i stuck head
out,
they didn't notice me with all that going on so i waited... waiting
until
he'd really wound himself right up and was literally just about to
strike
her, and i mean really strike her! he was going for it! shaking with
temper! and as he raised his whole arm and was just about to bring it
fully down on her head and, to him, justifiably damage her, i yelled:
DON'T hurt the girl! at the top of my voice! and the whole play just
ended
right there and then!
you'll have to understand that these are very 'private' people who don't
usually conduct their affairs in public? and that's precisely what i was
counting on heh...
i then said a few more things at a much lower, more conciliatory tone,
to
placate the situation, such as you can't do that mate, she's only a kid
etc etc etc, just enough to embarrass him a little more, and it worked!
suddenly he had to get home lol and deal with it all there! getting
carried away in public like that, nearly assaulting his daughter in
public
goodness knows how badly, what WAS he thinking??
looking kinda sheepish (haha don't they all?) he then marched her home
no
doubt to more berating, but am confident not to blows and that's all
that
mattered? saw she was alright later anyway, and then later her getting
married hahaha and their big garden celebration, smile...
and because using 'fire' to put out a fire... isn't ideal?
'you' could have done something similar i mean, called out: look out
mate
the cops are coming! (or whatever) to interrupt the chain of events...
you're penchant for violence, however, had you behaving in a completely
different manner & way was all... you could have used/applied your
'intelligence' instead of your brawn in the matter, only you didn't?
but then maybe next time you will huh?
you 'resolved' the situation alright hah, but not necessarily in 'the'
most intelligent manner?
you've GOT brains! so use 'em occasionally! :)
Good example. It's right along the lines of what I already
told him on this same subject.
Jeremy wrote...
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 6:25:14 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
thang wrote...
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:05:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>bits
wrote:
On Wed, 18 Jul 2018 02:50:38 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:34:07 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 09:06:31 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 11:54:14 -0700 (PDT), fuckowski
<allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:
it's always fucking something.
new shit to worry about.
Oh boy, i can hardly wait to indulge like a bastard.
In what? Pot? Grog? Nastier stuff?
Don't be a slave to your base needs. Tell your body who is boss.
Say
fuck off to drugs, unless it's pot. Pot is good. Pot is god.
### - considering the subject matter methinks he's talkin' about
biting
his fingernails down to the stubs + stressing re being blown to
drugs.re
ww3 :)
My experience with the term "indulge" in context of stress is -
justGenerally, the harder variety.
Again, a little clarity wouldn't go astray, would it?
### - people can (and do) also indulge in self-absorption; being
obsessed,
for example, is just another form of indulgence: self-indulgence...
itlike you quite often indulge (yourself) in being violent and blaming
on
evolution instead of resisting it haha :)
So tell me Slider. You're in the street. It's late. There are no
police. There is a guy slapping and clearly sexually assaulting a
woman or girl in front of you. The guy has no weapon, just his fists
or hands. You don't have your phone.
It's clear that serious injury to the woman is imminent and
inevitable. There is no assistance and definitely no law enforcement. >> >
Your question for tonight is - what do you DO? I would put that to
Jerome too, but I fear I already know what his answer would be...
### - i can't possibly 'predict' what i'd maybe do in the future with
circumstances unknown, but i would defo do something! plus can only
really
tell you what kinds of things i've done in the past along similar
lines...
'not' being a hulking great brute (heh) who 'explains' thing with his
fists, i perforce have to find 'other' means than smashing someone's
face
in in order to interfere... a good example being my indian neighbours
out
back across the way here (same lot that do those honour killings etc)
consisting of a father & mother and 4 little sisters... watched them all >> growing up into teenagers under a strict religious regime, the father
being of the highly emotional type you could often hear him berating his >> kids in ways typical to that culture, almost standard if you can
possibly
understand their collective pov on western culture (they think we're the >> devil heh, and maybe we are compared to them lol...) and the 'siege'
they
kinda feel themselves living under in order to keep that 'devil' out of
their lives!
anyway, and to cut a longer story short, one day i caught the eldest
sister inevitably sneaking out to meet boys, and just about in front of
my
house too (they live in the next street but our gardens almost back onto >> each other) and so there she was meeting some young boy just below my
front window heh, i didn't let them see me or know i was there but i
knew
what was going on + why she had to sneak around etc, besides they
weren't
doing anything except chatting anyway, but i was well aware of the
trouble
she was risking? (honour killings & beatings do indeed happen!) and, her >> having gotten away with it once, thus became their regular meeting
place... again, i didn't interfere any, it's none of my business + it's
not like i ever had anything to do with them even across the garden
fence,
but i easily could imagine the trouble that was brewing and that she was >> brewing for herself!
and 'coz several days later i then heard loud shouting in the street and >> peeped out only to see the enraged dad seriously berating her right in
front of my door hehehe (poor girl had been caught!) and he was really
giving it some! he was incensed! and getting more violent by the minute! >> waking away from her and then charging right back into her face! raising >> his arm + his voice getting louder & louder! raising his hands at her,
anyone could see what was coming! my window was open and i stuck head
out,
they didn't notice me with all that going on so i waited... waiting
until
he'd really wound himself right up and was literally just about to
strike
her, and i mean really strike her! he was going for it! shaking with
temper! and as he raised his whole arm and was just about to bring it
fully down on her head and, to him, justifiably damage her, i yelled:
DON'T hurt the girl! at the top of my voice! and the whole play just
ended
right there and then!
you'll have to understand that these are very 'private' people who don't >> usually conduct their affairs in public? and that's precisely what i was >> counting on heh...
i then said a few more things at a much lower, more conciliatory tone,
to
placate the situation, such as you can't do that mate, she's only a kid
etc etc etc, just enough to embarrass him a little more, and it worked!
suddenly he had to get home lol and deal with it all there! getting
carried away in public like that, nearly assaulting his daughter in
public
goodness knows how badly, what WAS he thinking??
looking kinda sheepish (haha don't they all?) he then marched her home
no
doubt to more berating, but am confident not to blows and that's all
that
mattered? saw she was alright later anyway, and then later her getting
married hahaha and their big garden celebration, smile...
and because using 'fire' to put out a fire... isn't ideal?
'you' could have done something similar i mean, called out: look out
mate
the cops are coming! (or whatever) to interrupt the chain of events...
you're penchant for violence, however, had you behaving in a completely
different manner & way was all... you could have used/applied your
'intelligence' instead of your brawn in the matter, only you didn't?
but then maybe next time you will huh?
you 'resolved' the situation alright hah, but not necessarily in 'the'
most intelligent manner?
you've GOT brains! so use 'em occasionally! :)
Good example. It's right along the lines of what I already
told him on this same subject.
### - so 'now' all ya gots to do is to actually take your own advise?
'coz you too are actually very violent & hateful!
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 19:26:23 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
Quit lying all the time, ya feeble-minded troll.
The whole point was that I'm not violent because I don't need to be.
### - i don't 'need' to lie!
(you're the one who tells lies remember?)
Quit lying all the time, ya feeble-minded troll.
The whole point was that I'm not violent because I don't need to be.
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:44:20 AM UTC-7, slider wrote:
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 19:26:23 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
wrote:
Quit lying all the time, ya feeble-minded troll.
The whole point was that I'm not violent because I don't need to be.
### - i don't 'need' to lie!
(you're the one who tells lies remember?)
“Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies.”
What a fantastic example of this you are! Amazing. :)
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