• The Tipping Point

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, June 28, 2018 10:18:12
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Dramatic TV
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Etlf4tc0s

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, June 29, 2018 10:52:43
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    House Republicans Shout Down Rosenstein in Tense Hearing
    By Reuters
    June 28, 2018

    WASHINGTON — U.S. House Republican allies of President Donald Trump shouted and attacked Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein on Thursday, alleging he was improperly withholding documents related to the FBI's investigation of Trump's 2016 campaign.

    The tense congressional hearing came as Republicans brought to the House floor a non-binding resolution that scolded the Justice Department for not turning over more records, a move that is widely seen as a possible precursor to holding Rosenstein in
    contempt of Congress. The resolution passed along party lines, 226-183.

    Rosenstein, the No. 2 official at the Justice Department, has become a frequent
    punching bag for Trump supporters for appointing Special Counsel Robert Mueller
    to investigate whether Trump's campaign colluded with Russia in his campaign against Democrat
    Hillary Clinton.

    At the House Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday, Rosenstein and FBI Director Chris Wray, who were both appointed by Trump, insisted they are working to comply with congressional Republicans' demands for documents related
    to the investigation but
    Republicans did not appear convinced.

    During a hostile exchange with Representative Jim Jordan, one of Trump's major backers, Rosenstein accused him of a personal attack.

    "I am the deputy attorney general of the United States," he said. "... I'm responsible for responding to your concerns as I have. I have a team with me, sir. It's just a fraction of the team doing this work.

    “So your statement that I'm personally keeping information from you, trying to conceal information ..."

    "You're the boss, Mr. Rosenstein," Jordan interrupted.

    "That’s correct,” Rosenstein snapped back. "And my job is to make sure that
    we respond to your concerns. We have, sir."

    Jordan later tried to assure the deputy attorney general his criticism wasn’t
    personal, to which Rosenstein responded, "Sometimes it feels that way."

    'FINISH IT THE HELL UP'

    Republican Trey Gowdy angrily demanded Rosenstein wrap up the investigation.

    "If you have evidence of any wrongdoing by any member of the Trump campaign, present it to the damn grand jury," he said. "If you have evidence that this president acted inappropriately, present it to the American people ... Whatever
    you got, finish it
    the hell up."

    The Mueller investigation already has led to charges against Trump's former campaign chairman, his former national security adviser and several other people.

    Trump has denied any collusion with Russia and repeatedly called the investigation a witch hunt.

    For months now, Republicans have issued subpoenas and sought documents in connection with the FBI's collusion investigation, as well as other records related to the probe of Clinton's use of a private email server.

    Critics say the Republicans are trying to discredit investigations of the Trump
    campaign, and Democrats expressed exasperation Thursday.

    "Stand your ground," Democratic Representative Ted Lieu told Rosenstein. Lieu called the hearing "ridiculous and stupid."

    Republicans have alleged the FBI made missteps when it applied to a special court for a warrant to conduct surveillance on former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page and questioned the FBI's use of a confidential informant who reached out to several Trump
    campaign officials.

    The Justice Department already has turned over hundreds of thousands of pages and held several briefings with members of Congress about the investigation. Attorney General Jeff Sessions directed the department's inspector general to investigate if errors
    were made when the FBI applied for the surveillance warrant to the U.S. Foreign
    Intelligence Surveillance Court.

    But Republicans have complained about redactions on certain records and also claim other records pertaining to the investigation into Trump's campaign have not been turned over.

    Representative Matt Gaetz, another Trump ally, had a tense exchange with Rosenstein, alleging Rosenstein had signed a document to authorize "spying" on the Trump campaign.

    "I dispute your characterization about what that (surveillance warrant application) is about, sir," Rosenstein said. "If the inspector general finds that I did something wrong, then I will respect that judgment but I think it's highly, highly unlikely,
    sir."

    Thursday's hearing was the first time Rosenstein has testified before Congress since the Justice Department's inspector general report that described missteps
    by the FBI in its handling of the investigation of Clinton's private email server use while she
    was secretary of state.

    In his testimony he said he was upset by the problems uncovered in the report, including texts that several FBI employees sent disparaging Trump.

    "We need to correct errors, hold wrongdoers accountable and deter future violations," Rosenstein said.

    (Reporting by Sarah N. Lynch and Patricia Zengerle; additional reporting by Doina Chiacu; Editing by Alistair Bell and Bill Trott)

    ***

    Rosenstein:
    “There are mechanisms to resolve this without threatening to hold
    people in contempt,” Mr. Rosenstein said, urging lawmakers to work
    with him rather than threaten him. “We are not in contempt of this
    Congress. We are not going to be.”

    Rosenstein:
    “If the inspector general finds that I did something wrong, then
    I’ll respect that judgment, but I think it’s highly, highly unlikely,”

    Rosenstein:
    “I’m not a Democrat, and I’m not angry”

    Rosenstein has also testified that he was: “not aware of any
    disqualifying conflict of interest” involving Mr. Mueller.

    Indeed both Rosenstein and Wray are Republican Trump appointees.
    Yet desperate far right conservatives are attacking them.

    “Clearly a pretext for a move against Mr. Rosenstein that the majority already has planned.” - Representative Jerrold Nadler of New York,
    top Judiciary Committee Democrat

    “They want to impeach you; they want to indict you; they want to
    get rid of you. Mr. Rosenstein, good luck. We’re in the minority.”
    - Representative Luis V. Gutiérrez, Democrat of Illinois

    This is actually an uncalled for partisan attack on a reasonable
    and rather productive investigation - where a large group of hard
    right conservatives are desperately doing everything they can
    to defend Trump. They're even pretending the investigation is
    being "dragged out" for political purposes, which is completely
    untrue.

    In fact, the investigation has been proceeding relatively RAPIDLY.
    If you doubt that, here is hard evidence of just that:

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/dgm3g72g51u1sz4/One.jpg?dl=0

    Iran-Contra went on for 6 years. Whitewater for 7 years. etc.
    This investigation is only ONE year old. Most major investigations
    historically have taken MUCH longer. And yet a large number of
    indictments have been made already, with several guilty pleas
    and agreements to cooperate. So far, this is a highly efficient,
    productive, and yes, fair investigation.

    But several major assholes are desperate to stop it.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, June 29, 2018 10:59:30
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Bottom line on the truth of this bullshit...

    “As today’s transcript will make crystal clear, House Republicans
    are desperately trying to find something — anything — to undermine
    Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation of the Trump campaign.
    Unfortunately for them, they were entirely unsuccessful.”

    - Mr. Nadler and Representative Elijah E. Cummings, top Democrat
    on House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, in a
    joint statement issued Wednesday night (6/27)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Friday, June 29, 2018 19:05:28
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - i think lucid dreaming is actually a far better + more interesting
    topic than mad-dave's incessant + now obviously exaggerated rantings &
    ravings re his pet-hate trumpy lol :P

    so are me & chris the only dudes around here actually lucid dreaming or
    what? :)




    On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 18:52:43 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    House Republicans Shout Down Rosenstein in Tense Hearing
    By Reuters
    June 28, 2018

    SNIPPERS! :D

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, June 29, 2018 11:25:50
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Look how scared he's running now. Wants his own obsession to RULE,
    to the point that he'll spam it in every thread, however unrelated.
    Funny how 'egoless beings' do things like that, isn't it? :)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Friday, June 29, 2018 19:06:44
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 18:59:30 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Bottom line on the truth of this bullshit...

    ### - is that you're completely fucked up! lol :)))

    anyone for lucid dreaming? (grinz...)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Friday, June 29, 2018 19:50:50
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 19:25:50 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Look how scared he's running now. Wants his own obsession to RULE,
    to the point that he'll spam it in every thread, however unrelated.
    Funny how 'egoless beings' do things like that, isn't it? :)

    ### - oh am glad if you recognise such a thing??

    wasn't at all sure if you did! :)

    'coz that's what *you've* doing lately in virtually every single thread
    going: inserting trumpy-comments into all and sundry!?

    you stop and i'll stop! hehehe...

    betcha can't though lol) :)

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, June 29, 2018 11:57:11
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Nope, I've been keeping my Trump articles in related threads.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Friday, June 29, 2018 20:01:54
    From: slider@anashram.org

    On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 19:57:11 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Nope, I've been keeping my Trump articles in related threads.

    ### - lol are ya 'sure' ya haven't been slipping 'em in there into other threads at virtually every opportunity?

    i am :)

    or are ya really saying/suggesting you haven't done that at all??

    really? NOT lying this time??

    riiiiiight.... :)

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, June 29, 2018 12:06:05
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    This thread is proof that you spam your dreaming stuff anywhere,
    even where it's not the topic of the thread. :)

    .

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Friday, June 29, 2018 20:16:23
    From: slider@anashram.org

    On Fri, 29 Jun 2018 20:06:05 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    This thread is proof that you spam your dreaming stuff anywhere,
    even where it's not the topic of the thread. :)

    ### - at least *i've* got 'something' TO spam huh... (cheezy grinz) :P

    what have YOU got to offer bozo, besides your obsessive 'unethical hatred'
    of things?

    fucking nada! and you feel it too, so you bitch & moan about what 'others'
    have done??

    like you know 'anything' about it!

    and 'coz *you've* DONE nothing yourself except piss it all up the wall!
    nada!

    jealous much? :)

    p a t h e t i c.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, June 30, 2018 12:40:10
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Shorts - for those with shorter attention spans...

    ***

    Leading off with the most entertaining item. Only on Facebook:

    In new video, Arnold Schwarzenegger asks Trump what’s next
    after saving coal: Bringing back Blockbuster video stores?
    The actor and former California governor has become a frequent
    critic of his fellow Republican.

    https://www.facebook.com/attn/videos/216711662491605/

    ***

    Mexico is now calling on the United Nations to intervene to prevent
    the United States from separating immigrant children and parents,
    the result of the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance”
    immigration policy.

    ***

    A federal judge in San Diego issued a preliminary injunction
    at the request of the American Civil Liberties Union that calls
    for all children affected by the Trump administration’s
    “zero-tolerance” immigration policy to be reunited with their
    parents within 30 days.

    ***

    However...

    The Trump administration will not reunite any migrant children
    with parents still held in immigrant detention facilities unless
    current federal law changes first, a top administration official
    told Congress on Tuesday.

    The statement by Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar,
    whose agency currently has custody of 2,047 children who were
    separated from their parents after being apprehended crossing
    the border illegally, confirmed what immigrant advocates have
    feared: The administration will reunite children with their
    parents quickly only if the parents drop their claims for asylum
    in the U.S. and agree to be deported.

    Under administration policy, immigrants claiming asylum are held
    in detention awaiting a hearing — a process that can often take
    months or years. Because current law allows children to be held
    in immigrant detention facilities for no more than 20 days,
    Azar’s agency would not place any of the children with parents
    who are in those facilities, he said.

    ***

    Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Torrance) caused a stir on the House floor
    when he played audio of sobbing children in a migrant detention
    center crying out for their parents.

    He was quickly gaveled by the presiding officer, Rep. Karen
    Handel (R-Ga.), who told him to stop playing the audio because
    it was against House rules.

    Lieu responded that Americans need to hear what was going on
    at the center.

    ***

    The United Nations Rejects President Trump's Pick for a Migration Group

    In a rare snub of the Trump Administration, the United Nations failed
    to approve an American pick to head an international migration group.

    After a third round of voting on Friday, Trump nominee Ken Isaacs was
    removed from the list of potential candidates to lead the
    International Organization for Migration.

    This is only the second time that an American won’t lead the IOM
    since the organization’s founding in 1951. Portuguese politician
    and European Union diplomat Antonio Vitorino earned the necessary
    two-thirds majority and will become the IOM’s next leader.

    Isaacs, the vice president of the evangelical Christian non-profit Samaritan’s Purse, had faced criticism for derogatory statements
    about Islam that were discovered on his Twitter page.

    CNN’s reporting also uncovered that he had once tweeted that
    Austria and Switzerland should consider building a wall in
    the Alps to solidify their border against refugees.

    ***

    And going back like... over a week ago (ages ago in Trump land)

    Trump kills off House immigration bill he vowed to support '1,000%'

    With an early morning tweet, President Trump put the likely final
    nail in the coffin of an immigration measure supported by the
    House GOP leadership, saying that lawmakers shouldn't bother with
    legislation he had claimed to support just days before.

    "Republicans should stop wasting their time on Immigration until
    after we elect more Senators and Congressmen/women in November,"
    Trump tweeted, forecasting that the GOP would gain seats in the
    midterm election.

    Trump has shown consistent inconsistency on the proposal.
    Last Friday, he said during a television interview that he
    opposed it. Hours later, the White House reversed course,
    saying he supported it.

    ***

    Those 6 items above, taken together, along with a few others here
    and there, are reflective of yet another "major cluster fuck".
    Thanks so very much for that one, Trump.

    ***

    The Trump administration acted in an “arbitrary and capricious”
    manner when officials approved the state’s first-in-the-nation
    rule that low-income people work or otherwise engage in their
    communities to qualify for the safety-net health insurance,
    a federal judge ruled.

    ***

    What? Trump's people acting in an "arbitrary and capricious" manner?
    Man, that's literally all they have ever done...

    "I support it 1000%." "I won't support it."
    "Hey, your guess is as good as mine".

    He should be known as President Jerk, as in 'jerk everyone around'.

    And btw, most immigrants are in the U.S. legally, a fact polls
    show most Americans don’t know.

    .

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