• The Zombie Apocolypse is Over / Obama Bush Clinton Nixon & Kennedy: Sur

    From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, June 09, 2018 12:00:28
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    Carter & Ford were medics.

    The Declaration IS The Citadel
    The Constitution IS The Stronghold
    The Bill of Rights IS The Fortress of Agreements

    IS-IS-IS [] [] WHEN []*[] EQUALS-EQUALS-EQUALS

    Battle of Appomattox. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Appomattox_Court_House

    Moses Surrenders In Style - Jumps Forward https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFLy8eGtSYo

    The Bakers Lament
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9Dg-g7t2l4

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, June 09, 2018 12:30:30
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    It was a "Talking Dream" in black and white.
    I'm sure I studied the event as a child in school.
    Children aren't allowed to study history anymore.
    It was decreed by the flying purple octopus with 27 pairs of
    singing genitalia in a chorus of eternal identitarianism.

    ;-)

    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the plot??

    Disturbed - The Vengeful One
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nW-IPrzM1g

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From waltkowaski@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, June 09, 2018 12:40:46
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the plot??

    i've been farting lately in lucid and regular dreams.
    some said to me "you farted", i said yep sure did.
    new horizons in dreaming.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to waltkowaski on Saturday, June 09, 2018 13:10:16
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 3:40:46 PM UTC-4, waltkowaski wrote:
    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the plot??

    i've been farting lately in lucid and regular dreams.
    some said to me "you farted", i said yep sure did.
    new horizons in dreaming.

    You bad

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, June 09, 2018 21:36:46
    From: slider@anashram.com

    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the plot??

    ### - can you give an example of what you describe? as don't experience
    any 'plots' per se in WILDing, but dilds are something else again and
    appear solely composed of plots that you can either go along with
    observing (which i never do anymore) or better yet you can take/assume
    complete control of and direct it accordingly (i.e., whatever i
    find/discover going on when awakening in a dild, i immediately assume full command and go off totally my own way as though WILDing, generally
    avoiding any peeps hanging around, who upon inspection all appear to be unthinking morons anyway hah, mere images of people who basically only
    echo one's own thoughts/ideas anyway, so why pay any attention to them
    kinda thing...)

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Saturday, June 09, 2018 14:30:39
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 4:36:48 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the plot??

    ### - can you give an example of what you describe? as don't experience
    any 'plots' per se in WILDing, but dilds are something else again and
    appear solely composed of plots that you can either go along with
    observing (which i never do anymore) or better yet you can take/assume complete control of and direct it accordingly (i.e., whatever i
    find/discover going on when awakening in a dild, i immediately assume full command and go off totally my own way as though WILDing, generally
    avoiding any peeps hanging around, who upon inspection all appear to be unthinking morons anyway hah, mere images of people who basically only
    echo one's own thoughts/ideas anyway, so why pay any attention to them
    kinda thing...)

    It happens when sleep is disrupted, there is a narrator and character
    self that I know are both me. My most memorable lasted about an hour as
    I went on tour with the Rolling Stones for the sole purpose of giving
    up twenty-five years of sobriety to a good cause. Who can refuse to get
    sloshed with Keith, right. It is a very documentary style of dreaming
    where the narrator speaks explaining complexity and then turns it over to interviewed party for some live action.

    Today's civil war dream was parallel themes. My court battle using a CW template. I am in Virginia (legal briefs source )

    "It was found during the initial battle for the city that a union
    lookout had surrendered (I go to court ).
    "Six soldiers of the rebel army refusing to accept the surrender of
    the union scout shot the unarmed scout" (I am a ghost listening & viewing)
    "The people fearing a massacre appeal to the invading general for justice.
    (I have outplayed the government in my case)
    "Here we see the execution of the six rebel soldiers for war crimes."
    (I am watching six bodies next to the dead scout)
    "The soldiers compatriots in the rebel army are furious at the general
    but take it out on the townspeople stealing all their food"
    (In my case they are defying the judge and won't give the evidence demanded) "The people knowing the can't survive the winter without food steal it all
    back in the middle of the night"
    (I wrote a MOTION for default judgement against the government:OBSTRUCTION} "The dead scout is starting to realize this is a dream and wants to become
    the narrator because he understands the parallels between his court case
    and the Battle of Appomattox."
    (I look at the narrator, who shrugs.)
    "I become the narrator and and and... FUCK TALKING DREAMS, I hate this shit." (I get up still asleep and say "I need to remember the name "APPOMATTOX"
    I take an adrenaline blocker (clonidine)have a bowl of cereal and fall into deep sleep.) End sequence

    I think it is like being both completely awake and asleep simultaneously.
    I am dreaming, and can't stop, or change subject portrait, but I can help
    or hinder the narrator(self), or help or hinder the main character me (self)

    I unfortunately am a many shades black white and grey dreamer.
    The less than a dozen full color lucid dreams (58 years) I've had I consider acts of genuine intervention from the "Totality" and its mysteries.
    Even bouts of flying dreams are B&W.

    The Courthouse
    https://www.britannica.com/media/full/30727/8522
    A Dylan version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw8YjVrRNRU

    My law case.
    Backstory is the Boston lawyers got some young black lady to
    write a motion to dismiss my case from Falls Church, Virginia.
    I have to counter with a motion for default in favor of plaintiff.
    The evidence they refuse to turn over is both toxic and prosecutable
    against each party that did not report crimes took place in 1986-2010-2015.

    For me its about truth, but there is 2-5 100K involved.
    Always they want the math and science, like the stolen food in the dream.

    Cheers

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, June 09, 2018 23:14:00
    From: slider@anashram.com

    LowRider wrote...

    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the
    plot??

    ### - can you give an example of what you describe? as don't experience
    any 'plots' per se in WILDing, but dilds are something else again and
    appear solely composed of plots that you can either go along with
    observing (which i never do anymore) or better yet you can take/assume
    complete control of and direct it accordingly (i.e., whatever i
    find/discover going on when awakening in a dild, i immediately assume
    full
    command and go off totally my own way as though WILDing, generally
    avoiding any peeps hanging around, who upon inspection all appear to be
    unthinking morons anyway hah, mere images of people who basically only
    echo one's own thoughts/ideas anyway, so why pay any attention to them
    kinda thing...)

    It happens when sleep is disrupted, there is a narrator and character
    self that I know are both me. My most memorable lasted about an hour as
    I went on tour with the Rolling Stones for the sole purpose of giving
    up twenty-five years of sobriety to a good cause. Who can refuse to get sloshed with Keith, right. It is a very documentary style of dreaming
    where the narrator speaks explaining complexity and then turns it over to interviewed party for some live action.

    Today's civil war dream was parallel themes. My court battle using a CW template. I am in Virginia (legal briefs source )

    "It was found during the initial battle for the city that a union
    lookout had surrendered (I go to court ).
    "Six soldiers of the rebel army refusing to accept the surrender of
    the union scout shot the unarmed scout" (I am a ghost listening &
    viewing)
    "The people fearing a massacre appeal to the invading general for
    justice.
    (I have outplayed the government in my case)
    "Here we see the execution of the six rebel soldiers for war crimes."
    (I am watching six bodies next to the dead scout)
    "The soldiers compatriots in the rebel army are furious at the general
    but take it out on the townspeople stealing all their food"
    (In my case they are defying the judge and won't give the evidence
    demanded)
    "The people knowing the can't survive the winter without food steal it
    all
    back in the middle of the night"
    (I wrote a MOTION for default judgement against the
    government:OBSTRUCTION}
    "The dead scout is starting to realize this is a dream and wants to
    become
    the narrator because he understands the parallels between his court case
    and the Battle of Appomattox."
    (I look at the narrator, who shrugs.)
    "I become the narrator and and and... FUCK TALKING DREAMS, I hate this
    shit."
    (I get up still asleep and say "I need to remember the name "APPOMATTOX"
    I take an adrenaline blocker (clonidine)have a bowl of cereal and fall
    into
    deep sleep.) End sequence

    I think it is like being both completely awake and asleep simultaneously.
    I am dreaming, and can't stop, or change subject portrait, but I can help
    or hinder the narrator(self), or help or hinder the main character me
    (self)

    I unfortunately am a many shades black white and grey dreamer.
    The less than a dozen full color lucid dreams (58 years) I've had I
    consider
    acts of genuine intervention from the "Totality" and its mysteries.
    Even bouts of flying dreams are B&W.

    The Courthouse
    https://www.britannica.com/media/full/30727/8522
    A Dylan version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw8YjVrRNRU

    My law case.
    Backstory is the Boston lawyers got some young black lady to
    write a motion to dismiss my case from Falls Church, Virginia.
    I have to counter with a motion for default in favor of plaintiff.
    The evidence they refuse to turn over is both toxic and prosecutable
    against each party that did not report crimes took place in
    1986-2010-2015.

    For me its about truth, but there is 2-5 100K involved.
    Always they want the math and science, like the stolen food in the dream.

    Cheers

    ### - i think it's potentially fascinating! could it be you were maybe
    actually reading the past via a waking dream state? because 'Appomattox' exists! (googled it and up it came re grant 'and' a courthouse!)

    trouble is, we don't really know fuck-all yet about all this dreaming
    business and what can/can't be accomplished with/via it? am loathe to jump
    to conclusions as we are but toddlers entering onto a wholly new area of otherwise hidden/unexplored awareness, things only sometimes leaking
    through that we generally keep a firm lid on merely because it doesn't fit
    in with society's current 'ideas/dogma' of what we (and life) are supposed
    to be all about... those that report such experiences, if immediately not
    burnt at the stake heh, often being referred to as being visionaries of
    one description or another; da vinci for example, and/or the oracle of
    delphi for another... none of it investigated/explained to any real
    account beyond that of mere rumour and myth, but which might just be all
    peeled back layer by layer via the ability to enter quite consciously
    (i.e., non-ritually) into a waking dream state...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Saturday, June 09, 2018 17:03:55
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 6:14:02 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    LowRider wrote...

    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the
    plot??

    ### - can you give an example of what you describe? as don't experience
    any 'plots' per se in WILDing, but dilds are something else again and
    appear solely composed of plots that you can either go along with
    observing (which i never do anymore) or better yet you can take/assume
    complete control of and direct it accordingly (i.e., whatever i
    find/discover going on when awakening in a dild, i immediately assume
    full
    command and go off totally my own way as though WILDing, generally
    avoiding any peeps hanging around, who upon inspection all appear to be
    unthinking morons anyway hah, mere images of people who basically only
    echo one's own thoughts/ideas anyway, so why pay any attention to them
    kinda thing...)

    It happens when sleep is disrupted, there is a narrator and character
    self that I know are both me. My most memorable lasted about an hour as
    I went on tour with the Rolling Stones for the sole purpose of giving
    up twenty-five years of sobriety to a good cause. Who can refuse to get sloshed with Keith, right. It is a very documentary style of dreaming
    where the narrator speaks explaining complexity and then turns it over to interviewed party for some live action.

    Today's civil war dream was parallel themes. My court battle using a CW template. I am in Virginia (legal briefs source )

    "It was found during the initial battle for the city that a union
    lookout had surrendered (I go to court ).
    "Six soldiers of the rebel army refusing to accept the surrender of
    the union scout shot the unarmed scout" (I am a ghost listening &
    viewing)
    "The people fearing a massacre appeal to the invading general for
    justice.
    (I have outplayed the government in my case)
    "Here we see the execution of the six rebel soldiers for war crimes."
    (I am watching six bodies next to the dead scout)
    "The soldiers compatriots in the rebel army are furious at the general
    but take it out on the townspeople stealing all their food"
    (In my case they are defying the judge and won't give the evidence demanded)
    "The people knowing the can't survive the winter without food steal it
    all
    back in the middle of the night"
    (I wrote a MOTION for default judgement against the
    government:OBSTRUCTION}
    "The dead scout is starting to realize this is a dream and wants to
    become
    the narrator because he understands the parallels between his court case and the Battle of Appomattox."
    (I look at the narrator, who shrugs.)
    "I become the narrator and and and... FUCK TALKING DREAMS, I hate this shit."
    (I get up still asleep and say "I need to remember the name "APPOMATTOX"
    I take an adrenaline blocker (clonidine)have a bowl of cereal and fall
    into
    deep sleep.) End sequence

    I think it is like being both completely awake and asleep simultaneously.
    I am dreaming, and can't stop, or change subject portrait, but I can help or hinder the narrator(self), or help or hinder the main character me (self)

    I unfortunately am a many shades black white and grey dreamer.
    The less than a dozen full color lucid dreams (58 years) I've had I consider
    acts of genuine intervention from the "Totality" and its mysteries.
    Even bouts of flying dreams are B&W.

    The Courthouse
    https://www.britannica.com/media/full/30727/8522
    A Dylan version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw8YjVrRNRU

    My law case.
    Backstory is the Boston lawyers got some young black lady to
    write a motion to dismiss my case from Falls Church, Virginia.
    I have to counter with a motion for default in favor of plaintiff.
    The evidence they refuse to turn over is both toxic and prosecutable against each party that did not report crimes took place in
    1986-2010-2015.

    For me its about truth, but there is 2-5 100K involved.
    Always they want the math and science, like the stolen food in the dream.

    Cheers

    ### - i think it's potentially fascinating! could it be you were maybe actually reading the past via a waking dream state? because 'Appomattox' exists! (googled it and up it came re grant 'and' a courthouse!)

    trouble is, we don't really know fuck-all yet about all this dreaming business and what can/can't be accomplished with/via it? am loathe to jump
    to conclusions as we are but toddlers entering onto a wholly new area of otherwise hidden/unexplored awareness, things only sometimes leaking
    through that we generally keep a firm lid on merely because it doesn't fit
    in with society's current 'ideas/dogma' of what we (and life) are supposed
    to be all about... those that report such experiences, if immediately not burnt at the stake heh, often being referred to as being visionaries of
    one description or another; da vinci for example, and/or the oracle of
    delphi for another... none of it investigated/explained to any real
    account beyond that of mere rumour and myth, but which might just be all peeled back layer by layer via the ability to enter quite consciously
    (i.e., non-ritually) into a waking dream state...

    Non-locality is the key for sure.
    Rhetorically and scientifically were not really here.
    Its impossible to pin down "Now" without confronting the small infinities,
    of ever smaller sections of motion in motion we invented the idea of time
    to discuss. I came up with a good toy model for substituting data stacks
    and constant DLL direct linkage libraries for time.
    Each elbow is potential context each finger a now portrait.
    Raise arms and elbows to shoulder height thumbs touching.
    Draw the elbows down until touching and connect all five fingers.
    Relax the elbows grip on each other, each fingers ability to find the
    opposing finger gets more dicey tenuous the greater the distance.
    Each elbow represents many pasts and futures interacting with many past
    and futures, but we see and choose only one-five connections in various
    chosen and un-chosen sets or singularities of random ex: thumb-pinky.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, June 10, 2018 03:57:04
    From: slider@anashram.com

    LowRider wrote...

    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the
    plot??

    ### - can you give an example of what you describe? as don't
    experience
    any 'plots' per se in WILDing, but dilds are something else again and
    appear solely composed of plots that you can either go along with
    observing (which i never do anymore) or better yet you can
    take/assume
    complete control of and direct it accordingly (i.e., whatever i
    find/discover going on when awakening in a dild, i immediately assume
    full
    command and go off totally my own way as though WILDing, generally
    avoiding any peeps hanging around, who upon inspection all appear to
    be
    unthinking morons anyway hah, mere images of people who basically
    only
    echo one's own thoughts/ideas anyway, so why pay any attention to
    them
    kinda thing...)

    It happens when sleep is disrupted, there is a narrator and character
    self that I know are both me. My most memorable lasted about an hour
    as
    I went on tour with the Rolling Stones for the sole purpose of giving
    up twenty-five years of sobriety to a good cause. Who can refuse to
    get
    sloshed with Keith, right. It is a very documentary style of dreaming
    where the narrator speaks explaining complexity and then turns it
    over to
    interviewed party for some live action.

    Today's civil war dream was parallel themes. My court battle using a
    CW
    template. I am in Virginia (legal briefs source )

    "It was found during the initial battle for the city that a union
    lookout had surrendered (I go to court ).
    "Six soldiers of the rebel army refusing to accept the surrender of
    the union scout shot the unarmed scout" (I am a ghost listening &
    viewing)
    "The people fearing a massacre appeal to the invading general for
    justice.
    (I have outplayed the government in my case)
    "Here we see the execution of the six rebel soldiers for war crimes."
    (I am watching six bodies next to the dead scout)
    "The soldiers compatriots in the rebel army are furious at the general
    but take it out on the townspeople stealing all their food"
    (In my case they are defying the judge and won't give the evidence
    demanded)
    "The people knowing the can't survive the winter without food steal it
    all
    back in the middle of the night"
    (I wrote a MOTION for default judgement against the
    government:OBSTRUCTION}
    "The dead scout is starting to realize this is a dream and wants to
    become
    the narrator because he understands the parallels between his court
    case
    and the Battle of Appomattox."
    (I look at the narrator, who shrugs.)
    "I become the narrator and and and... FUCK TALKING DREAMS, I hate this
    shit."
    (I get up still asleep and say "I need to remember the name
    "APPOMATTOX"
    I take an adrenaline blocker (clonidine)have a bowl of cereal and fall
    into
    deep sleep.) End sequence

    I think it is like being both completely awake and asleep
    simultaneously.
    I am dreaming, and can't stop, or change subject portrait, but I can
    help
    or hinder the narrator(self), or help or hinder the main character me
    (self)

    I unfortunately am a many shades black white and grey dreamer.
    The less than a dozen full color lucid dreams (58 years) I've had I
    consider
    acts of genuine intervention from the "Totality" and its mysteries.
    Even bouts of flying dreams are B&W.

    The Courthouse
    https://www.britannica.com/media/full/30727/8522
    A Dylan version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw8YjVrRNRU

    My law case.
    Backstory is the Boston lawyers got some young black lady to
    write a motion to dismiss my case from Falls Church, Virginia.
    I have to counter with a motion for default in favor of plaintiff.
    The evidence they refuse to turn over is both toxic and prosecutable
    against each party that did not report crimes took place in
    1986-2010-2015.

    For me its about truth, but there is 2-5 100K involved.
    Always they want the math and science, like the stolen food in the
    dream.

    Cheers

    ### - i think it's potentially fascinating! could it be you were maybe
    actually reading the past via a waking dream state? because 'Appomattox'
    exists! (googled it and up it came re grant 'and' a courthouse!)

    trouble is, we don't really know fuck-all yet about all this dreaming
    business and what can/can't be accomplished with/via it? am loathe to
    jump
    to conclusions as we are but toddlers entering onto a wholly new area of
    otherwise hidden/unexplored awareness, things only sometimes leaking
    through that we generally keep a firm lid on merely because it doesn't
    fit
    in with society's current 'ideas/dogma' of what we (and life) are
    supposed
    to be all about... those that report such experiences, if immediately
    not
    burnt at the stake heh, often being referred to as being visionaries of
    one description or another; da vinci for example, and/or the oracle of
    delphi for another... none of it investigated/explained to any real
    account beyond that of mere rumour and myth, but which might just be all
    peeled back layer by layer via the ability to enter quite consciously
    (i.e., non-ritually) into a waking dream state...

    Non-locality is the key for sure.
    Rhetorically and scientifically were not really here.
    Its impossible to pin down "Now" without confronting the small
    infinities,
    of ever smaller sections of motion in motion we invented the idea of time
    to discuss. I came up with a good toy model for substituting data stacks
    and constant DLL direct linkage libraries for time.
    Each elbow is potential context each finger a now portrait.
    Raise arms and elbows to shoulder height thumbs touching.
    Draw the elbows down until touching and connect all five fingers.
    Relax the elbows grip on each other, each fingers ability to find the opposing finger gets more dicey tenuous the greater the distance.
    Each elbow represents many pasts and futures interacting with many past
    and futures, but we see and choose only one-five connections in various chosen and un-chosen sets or singularities of random ex: thumb-pinky.

    ### - i tend to go along with quite lot of that, but hold back at letting myself try to explain it all to myself and watching myself go slowly nuts
    with the detail in all the devils involved hah; much preferring 'not' to
    know what i know i can't and don't know, besides which; the abstract isn't
    such a burden? - 'not-knowing' ultimately giving rise to a wholly
    different perception of the world + knowledge-set to boot, one where
    nothing is known in-advance and only in (and at) the very moment it's needed/required... whew what a relief!

    and where all ya's have to actually 'do' is to let... go :)

    hahaha...

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Monday, June 11, 2018 10:13:27
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Here's a bit more rational way to say all that (see subject), I think...

    ***

    Trump Tries to Destroy the West
    By David Leonhardt

    http://tinyurl.com/ydgkxkom

    June 10, 2018

    The alliance between the United States and Western Europe has accomplished great things. It won two world wars in the first half of the 20th century. Then
    it expanded to include its former enemies and went on to win the Cold War, help
    spread democracy
    and build the highest living standards the world has ever known.

    President Trump is trying to destroy that alliance.

    Is that how he thinks about it? Who knows. It’s impossible to get inside his head and divine his strategic goals, if he even has long-term goals. But put it
    this way: If a president of the United States were to sketch out a secret, detailed plan to
    break up the Atlantic alliance, that plan would bear a striking resemblance to Trump’s behavior.

    It would involve outward hostility to the leaders of Canada, Britain, France, Germany and Japan. Specifically, it would involve picking fights over artificial issues — not to win big concessions for the United States, but to create conflict for the
    sake of it.

    A secret plan to break up the West would also have the United States looking for new allies to replace the discarded ones. The most obvious would be Russia,
    the biggest rival within Europe to Germany, France and Britain. And just as Russia does, a United
    States intent on wrecking the Atlantic alliance would meddle in the domestic politics of other countries to install new governments that also rejected the old alliance.

    [Receive arguments and opinions on the pressing social issues and hidden stories around the World Cup right in your inbox. Sign up for Offsides.]

    Check. Check. Check. Check. Trump is doing every one of these things.

    He chose not to attend the full G-7 meeting, in Quebec, this past weekend. While he was there, he picked fights. By now, you’ve probably seen the photograph released by the German government — of Trump sitting down, with eyebrows raised and crossed
    arms, while Germany’s Angela Merkel and other leaders stand around him, imploring. Shinzo Abe, Japan’s prime minister, wears a look of defeat.

    No wonder. The meeting’s central disagreements were over tariffs that Trump has imposed for false reasons. He claims that he’s merely responding to other
    countries. But the average current tariff of the United States, Britain, Germany and France is
    identical, according to the World Bank: 1.6 percent. Japan’s is 1.4 percent, and Canada’s is 0.8 percent. Yes, every country has a few objectionable tariffs, but they’re small — and the United States is not a victim here.

    So Trump isn’t telling the truth about trade, much as he has lied about Barack Obama’s birthplace, his own position on the Iraq War, his inauguration
    crowd, voter fraud, the murder rate, Mexican immigrants, the Russia investigation, the Stormy
    Daniels hush money and several hundred other subjects. The tariffs aren’t a case of his identifying a real problem but describing it poorly. He is threatening the Atlantic alliance over a lie.

    If you need more evidence, look at his tweets after leaving the summit. Close readers of Trump’s Twitter feed (and I don’t envy that title) have learned that he often accuses others of committing his own sins. On Saturday, he called
    Justin Trudeau,
    Canada’s prime minister, “very dishonest.”

    While Trudeau and other historical allies get disdain, Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un and various aspiring authoritarians are bathed in praise. Trump and his
    aides have promoted far-right politicians in Germany and elsewhere. In Quebec, he made excuses for
    Russia’s annexation of Crimea and argued that Russia should be readmitted to the G-7. Jay Nordlinger, the conservative writer, asked, “Why is he talking like an RT host?” — RT being Russia Today, a government-funded television network.

    I don’t know the answer. But it’s past time to take seriously the only explanation for all of Trump’s behavior: He wants to destroy the Western alliance.

    Maybe it’s ideological, and he prefers Putin-style authoritarianism to democracy. Or maybe he has no grand strategy and Putin really does have some compromising information. Or maybe Trump just likes being against what every other modern American
    president was for.

    Whatever the reason, his behavior requires a response that’s as serious as the threat. As the political scientist Brendan Nyhan pointed out, this past weekend felt like a turning point: “The Western alliance and the global trading system are coming
    under the same intense strain that Trump has created for our domestic institutions.”

    For America’s longtime allies, the response means shedding the hopeful optimism that characterized the early approach taken by Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron, France’s president. Merkel is the right role model. She has been tougher, without needlessly
    escalating matters, because she has understood the threat all along.

    For Trump’s fellow Republicans, it means putting country over party. A few Republicans, like John McCain, offered appropriately alarmed words in the last two days. Now members of Congress need to do more than send anguished tweets. They should offer
    legislation that would restrain Trump and hold hearings meant to uncover his motives.

    For American voters, it means understanding the real stakes of this year’s midterm elections. They are not merely a referendum on a tax cut, a health care
    plan or a president’s unorthodox style. They are a referendum on American ideals that are older
    than any of us.

    .

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to Jeremy H. Denisovan on Monday, June 11, 2018 19:01:47
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 1:13:28 PM UTC-4, Jeremy H. Denisovan wrote:
    Here's a bit more rational way to say all that (see subject), I think...

    ***

    Trump Tries to Destroy the West
    By David Leonhardt

    http://tinyurl.com/ydgkxkom

    June 10, 2018

    The alliance between the United States and Western Europe has accomplished
    great things. It won two world wars in the first half of the 20th century. Then
    it expanded to include its former enemies and went on to win the Cold War, help
    spread democracy
    and build the highest living standards the world has ever known.

    President Trump is trying to destroy that alliance.

    Is that how he thinks about it? Who knows. It’s impossible to get inside
    his head and divine his strategic goals, if he even has long-term goals. But put it this way: If a president of the United States were to sketch out a secret, detailed plan to
    break up the Atlantic alliance, that plan would bear a striking resemblance to Trump’s behavior.

    It would involve outward hostility to the leaders of Canada, Britain, France,
    Germany and Japan. Specifically, it would involve picking fights over artificial issues — not to win big concessions for the United States, but to create conflict for the
    sake of it.

    A secret plan to break up the West would also have the United States looking
    for new allies to replace the discarded ones. The most obvious would be Russia,
    the biggest rival within Europe to Germany, France and Britain. And just as Russia does, a
    United States intent on wrecking the Atlantic alliance would meddle in the domestic politics of other countries to install new governments that also rejected the old alliance.

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    Check. Check. Check. Check. Trump is doing every one of these things.

    He chose not to attend the full G-7 meeting, in Quebec, this past weekend.
    While he was there, he picked fights. By now, you’ve probably seen the photograph released by the German government — of Trump sitting down, with eyebrows raised and crossed
    arms, while Germany’s Angela Merkel and other leaders stand around him, imploring. Shinzo Abe, Japan’s prime minister, wears a look of defeat.

    No wonder. The meeting’s central disagreements were over tariffs that Trump
    has imposed for false reasons. He claims that he’s merely responding to other
    countries. But the average current tariff of the United States, Britain, Germany and France is
    identical, according to the World Bank: 1.6 percent. Japan’s is 1.4 percent, and Canada’s is 0.8 percent. Yes, every country has a few objectionable tariffs, but they’re small — and the United States is not a victim here.

    So Trump isn’t telling the truth about trade, much as he has lied about
    Barack Obama’s birthplace, his own position on the Iraq War, his inauguration
    crowd, voter fraud, the murder rate, Mexican immigrants, the Russia investigation, the Stormy
    Daniels hush money and several hundred other subjects. The tariffs aren’t a case of his identifying a real problem but describing it poorly. He is threatening the Atlantic alliance over a lie.

    If you need more evidence, look at his tweets after leaving the summit. Close
    readers of Trump’s Twitter feed (and I don’t envy that title) have learned that he often accuses others of committing his own sins. On Saturday, he called
    Justin Trudeau,
    Canada’s prime minister, “very dishonest.”

    While Trudeau and other historical allies get disdain, Vladimir Putin, Kim
    Jong-un and various aspiring authoritarians are bathed in praise. Trump and his
    aides have promoted far-right politicians in Germany and elsewhere. In Quebec, he made excuses
    for Russia’s annexation of Crimea and argued that Russia should be readmitted
    to the G-7. Jay Nordlinger, the conservative writer, asked, “Why is he talking like an RT host?” — RT being Russia Today, a government-funded television network.

    I don’t know the answer. But it’s past time to take seriously the only
    explanation for all of Trump’s behavior: He wants to destroy the Western alliance.

    Maybe it’s ideological, and he prefers Putin-style authoritarianism to
    democracy. Or maybe he has no grand strategy and Putin really does have some compromising information. Or maybe Trump just likes being against what every other modern American
    president was for.

    Whatever the reason, his behavior requires a response that’s as serious as
    the threat. As the political scientist Brendan Nyhan pointed out, this past weekend felt like a turning point: “The Western alliance and the global trading system are coming
    under the same intense strain that Trump has created for our domestic institutions.”

    For America’s longtime allies, the response means shedding the hopeful
    optimism that characterized the early approach taken by Trudeau and Emmanuel Macron, France’s president. Merkel is the right role model. She has been tougher, without needlessly
    escalating matters, because she has understood the threat all along.

    For Trump’s fellow Republicans, it means putting country over party. A few
    Republicans, like John McCain, offered appropriately alarmed words in the last two days. Now members of Congress need to do more than send anguished tweets. They should offer
    legislation that would restrain Trump and hold hearings meant to uncover his motives.

    For American voters, it means understanding the real stakes of this year’s
    midterm elections. They are not merely a referendum on a tax cut, a health care
    plan or a president’s unorthodox style. They are a referendum on American ideals that are
    older than any of us.

    .

    This guys in a load of hurt https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/press-release/file/1069836/download

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Monday, June 11, 2018 19:00:59
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Saturday, June 9, 2018 at 10:57:09 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    LowRider wrote...

    Do you guys ever have "Narrator" lucid dreams, where you nudge the
    plot??

    ### - can you give an example of what you describe? as don't
    experience
    any 'plots' per se in WILDing, but dilds are something else again and >> >> appear solely composed of plots that you can either go along with
    observing (which i never do anymore) or better yet you can
    take/assume
    complete control of and direct it accordingly (i.e., whatever i
    find/discover going on when awakening in a dild, i immediately assume >> >> full
    command and go off totally my own way as though WILDing, generally
    avoiding any peeps hanging around, who upon inspection all appear to
    be
    unthinking morons anyway hah, mere images of people who basically
    only
    echo one's own thoughts/ideas anyway, so why pay any attention to
    them
    kinda thing...)

    It happens when sleep is disrupted, there is a narrator and character
    self that I know are both me. My most memorable lasted about an hour
    as
    I went on tour with the Rolling Stones for the sole purpose of giving
    up twenty-five years of sobriety to a good cause. Who can refuse to
    get
    sloshed with Keith, right. It is a very documentary style of dreaming
    where the narrator speaks explaining complexity and then turns it
    over to
    interviewed party for some live action.

    Today's civil war dream was parallel themes. My court battle using a
    CW
    template. I am in Virginia (legal briefs source )

    "It was found during the initial battle for the city that a union
    lookout had surrendered (I go to court ).
    "Six soldiers of the rebel army refusing to accept the surrender of
    the union scout shot the unarmed scout" (I am a ghost listening &
    viewing)
    "The people fearing a massacre appeal to the invading general for
    justice.
    (I have outplayed the government in my case)
    "Here we see the execution of the six rebel soldiers for war crimes."
    (I am watching six bodies next to the dead scout)
    "The soldiers compatriots in the rebel army are furious at the general >> > but take it out on the townspeople stealing all their food"
    (In my case they are defying the judge and won't give the evidence
    demanded)
    "The people knowing the can't survive the winter without food steal it >> > all
    back in the middle of the night"
    (I wrote a MOTION for default judgement against the
    government:OBSTRUCTION}
    "The dead scout is starting to realize this is a dream and wants to
    become
    the narrator because he understands the parallels between his court
    case
    and the Battle of Appomattox."
    (I look at the narrator, who shrugs.)
    "I become the narrator and and and... FUCK TALKING DREAMS, I hate this >> > shit."
    (I get up still asleep and say "I need to remember the name
    "APPOMATTOX"
    I take an adrenaline blocker (clonidine)have a bowl of cereal and fall >> > into
    deep sleep.) End sequence

    I think it is like being both completely awake and asleep
    simultaneously.
    I am dreaming, and can't stop, or change subject portrait, but I can
    help
    or hinder the narrator(self), or help or hinder the main character me
    (self)

    I unfortunately am a many shades black white and grey dreamer.
    The less than a dozen full color lucid dreams (58 years) I've had I
    consider
    acts of genuine intervention from the "Totality" and its mysteries.
    Even bouts of flying dreams are B&W.

    The Courthouse
    https://www.britannica.com/media/full/30727/8522
    A Dylan version
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iw8YjVrRNRU

    My law case.
    Backstory is the Boston lawyers got some young black lady to
    write a motion to dismiss my case from Falls Church, Virginia.
    I have to counter with a motion for default in favor of plaintiff.
    The evidence they refuse to turn over is both toxic and prosecutable
    against each party that did not report crimes took place in
    1986-2010-2015.

    For me its about truth, but there is 2-5 100K involved.
    Always they want the math and science, like the stolen food in the
    dream.

    Cheers

    ### - i think it's potentially fascinating! could it be you were maybe
    actually reading the past via a waking dream state? because 'Appomattox' >> exists! (googled it and up it came re grant 'and' a courthouse!)

    trouble is, we don't really know fuck-all yet about all this dreaming
    business and what can/can't be accomplished with/via it? am loathe to
    jump
    to conclusions as we are but toddlers entering onto a wholly new area of >> otherwise hidden/unexplored awareness, things only sometimes leaking
    through that we generally keep a firm lid on merely because it doesn't
    fit
    in with society's current 'ideas/dogma' of what we (and life) are
    supposed
    to be all about... those that report such experiences, if immediately
    not
    burnt at the stake heh, often being referred to as being visionaries of
    one description or another; da vinci for example, and/or the oracle of
    delphi for another... none of it investigated/explained to any real
    account beyond that of mere rumour and myth, but which might just be all >> peeled back layer by layer via the ability to enter quite consciously
    (i.e., non-ritually) into a waking dream state...

    Non-locality is the key for sure.
    Rhetorically and scientifically were not really here.
    Its impossible to pin down "Now" without confronting the small
    infinities,
    of ever smaller sections of motion in motion we invented the idea of time to discuss. I came up with a good toy model for substituting data stacks and constant DLL direct linkage libraries for time.
    Each elbow is potential context each finger a now portrait.
    Raise arms and elbows to shoulder height thumbs touching.
    Draw the elbows down until touching and connect all five fingers.
    Relax the elbows grip on each other, each fingers ability to find the opposing finger gets more dicey tenuous the greater the distance.
    Each elbow represents many pasts and futures interacting with many past
    and futures, but we see and choose only one-five connections in various chosen and un-chosen sets or singularities of random ex: thumb-pinky.

    ### - i tend to go along with quite lot of that, but hold back at letting myself try to explain it all to myself and watching myself go slowly nuts with the detail in all the devils involved hah; much preferring 'not' to
    know what i know i can't and don't know, besides which; the abstract isn't such a burden? - 'not-knowing' ultimately giving rise to a wholly
    different perception of the world + knowledge-set to boot, one where
    nothing is known in-advance and only in (and at) the very moment it's needed/required... whew what a relief!

    and where all ya's have to actually 'do' is to let... go :)

    hahaha...

    Big thumbs up on that fluidity, our momentary jumping points of awareness
    are but the tip of an iceberg. I used to sell these two rhythms here: "Sometimes you flow the flow and know the know other times the flow flows
    and the know knows depositing you exactly where you had to get too."

    I do a lot of toy model building to sooth my mind and sshhhh my brain.
    If my brain would ever shut the fuck I would be stunned by the silence."

    Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence remix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofrB6OCSsgk

    Depeche Mode - Enjoy The Silence original (my fave) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0AKJMGxwpE

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 04:00:43
    From: slider@anashram.com

    I do a lot of toy model building to sooth my mind and sshhhh my brain.
    If my brain would ever shut the fuck I would be stunned by the silence."

    ### - haha vinni described being so stunned one time hehehe; was sitting
    in his room doing whatever, and suddenly looked up and realised he'd
    totally forgotten the names of absolutely everything around him, including himself lol :)))

    had a very rapid look around at everything for about all of 10 seconds,
    before totally freaking and legging it out the door hahaha! (great story!:)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 14:18:56
    From: slider@anashram.com

    trump-club number one fan wrote...

    Here's a bit more rational way to say all that (see subject), I think...

    ***
    Trump Tries to Destroy the West
    By David Leonhardt

    June 10, 2018
    The alliance between the United States and Western Europe has
    accomplished great things. It won two world wars in the first half of
    the 20th century. Then it expanded to include its former enemies and
    went on to win the Cold War, help spread democracy and build the highest living standards the world has ever known.

    President Trump is trying to destroy that alliance.

    ### - (singing...) nellie... nellie!

    pride of our alley!
    You're more than
    The whole world too-oo me...

    (paraphrased gracie fields hahaha...)

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  • From waltkowaski@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 06:13:35
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    I do a lot of toy model building to sooth my mind and sshhhh my brain.
    If my brain would ever shut the fuck I would be stunned by the silence."

    or perhaps IF you stop identifying with every god
    damn thought you have the fucker would quiet down.
    don't feed the beast with your awareness.

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 09:31:35
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    This is Jonestown ALL OVER AGAIN
    https://youtu.be/6ePrvsIk_BA?t=34m52s

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