From: slider@anashram.com

### - this just appeared on fb in regards to The WILD Way To Lucid
Dreaming.

Scott Robertson: Oddly enough I am preparing to plug Brian Aherne's book
big time on my unworlding group just this morning since this awesome book
has just provided me with a milestone experience, my first ever totally
lucid WILD from a waking state. This is the first really great, original
book I've found in a long time and this is what I'm focused on, as well as multiple meditation sessions per day which fertilizes the field you might
say.

***

good plug for the whole method eh? :)

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From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

"Unworlding"?

.

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From: slider@anashram.org

"Unworlding"?

### - have never heard of it either heh, but implies being somehow
'different' to the more usual way we deal with the world? of extricating oneself from the grip of a somehow alien way of living and returning to a perhaps more sane/balanced one? (at least that's what it might/would mean
to moi...)

will, however, get back with their group description just to clarify
matters heh :)

plus, that's 2 now in only a week; both claiming abject success with going
WILD in this manner!

the other from a young lady with 2 experiences of same as being her
first-ever experiences 'of' lucid dreaming per se...

copies sold to date now = 170, and all by word of mouth alone...

kewl... :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - AND... apparently 2 more 5-star reviews on amazon uk to boot! (just noticed these)

tompicton: Call of the WILD
3 June 2018
Verified Purchase
Very nice, the chapters of the book are a good-humoured and balanced look
at lucid dreaming, the real gold being the method the author describes for wake-induced lucid dreams. Recommended, well worth the price if you can
master what is a far less complicated sounding technique than DILD-doing.

Raitis: Simple and straight forward instruction.
6 June 2018
Verified Purchase
Simple and straight forward instruction about how to induce WILD. I like
the way writer keeps open minded about theories.

***

very cool ;)

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From: slider@anashram.com

copies sold to date now = 170

### - correction: 171, 'coz it just sold another in the uk lol :)

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From: slider@anashram.org

"Unworlding"?

### - yes a strange choice of conjoined terms perhaps and is not a fb
group per se, but has apparently written a book of that title on the
subject of lucid dreaming and obe/ap etc...

quote from his ''slide'-share-book-page' (heh):

Unworlding by scott robertson Version 1,(a book about the nature of
reality & metaphysics) the ultimate guide to astral projection, lucid
dreaming and obe

https://es.slideshare.net/MyRedButton/unworlding-by-scott-robertsona-book-about-the-nature-of-reality-metaphysics-the-ultimate-guide-to-astral-projection-lucid-dreaming-and-obe

and is apparently now up to version 2, albeit he seems quite taken now
from what he says with my approach instead, so and maybe it'll divert him
some onto something maybe a bit better and/or more accessible/solid than
what he's been used to huh...

unworlding; sounds maybe something like... delousing?

ddt for the problems of the world on our backs :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - oop's sorry: better make that 172 copies now sold? with a direct
ebook sale to france via the website just now :)

it's actually amazing (or is at least so to moi) to have peeps from all
over the globe buying + reading my book and giving such cool reviews? (a totally new experience for me! hehehe...)

so much so some of my, erm, unused emanations, are positively glowing! :D

hahaha...

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - wow he's (Scott Robertson) really going to town on it with this
posted in the WILDs & WILDing group (now with 424 members) heh ;)


I'm telling everyone I know that Brian Aherne's book is the Right Stuff.

I've always had an affinity for hypnagogia but in this field of differing opinions it's easy to get distracted from what's easy for me and try
climbing Mt Everest instead. I don't mind the time I spent focusing on
sleep paralysis and vibrations and all that, it was fun and educational
and it got that impulse out of the way. Of course these sleep-transition phenomena occur daily but staying awake for them a few times so I could
say for myself they were real, that was interesting. Good background, but
a good thing to not get stopped by.

There comes a time when a person wants to do what comes naturally instead
of doing everything the hard way. So I've been focusing on meditating
right before bed, going to bed early, and meditating again between 3-5
a.m. And the only methodology I've tried lately is to stay focused on
images. Even when walking around during the day I will try to look behind
me without turning around. Unlike what we assume, the blackness is not
black. There's always something there, waiting for us to notice it. A
sense of motion sweeping from here to there, a blue ribbon of light, a few dots. Stop talking to myself and I can see something because nature abhors
a vacuum, there's always something there.

Two nights in a row I've had lucid episodes and this morning I'd just
returned from a trip to a 10,000 foot tall waterfall after deciding not to
dive down it and found myself lying in bed. I was vibrating and found I
could increase the vibes by gently biting my lower lip, then remembered to
look for images. Instantly I found myself walking past an open closet full
of clutter in "my house" and then walking down the hallway in "my house".
Not my real house but apart from being 100% lucid I was sure this was my
house. Maybe so, in another world.

I reached up and touched a painting on the wall and the coarse texture of
the canvas was totally realistic. I started to walk down the stairs to see
if I could scare the bejesus out of my wife and kid in the kitchen. (In
reality they were still upstairs asleep like me). As I started with the
"Yahoo! Yippee!" and sliding down the stairs on my feet the lucidity
didn't slip away but the ability to remember my real goals did. I was
supposed to be looking around and solidifying my awareness, not letting it
slip away in excitement. Downstairs I didn't make it through the house all
the way to the kitchen to see if my dream body was visible to my son or
not. I decided I was having trouble walking and woke up in bed.

This was about my 4th WILD but the first one that probably started from a
fully waking state. In other words, the previous WILDs were almost DILDs because I lapsed into sleep for a few minutes first. I was aware during
this experience that I was practicing entering the dream world from the
waking state, like I had studied in The Wild Way. Entering the dream with
100% waking lucidity definitely made it a lot easier to remember
everything and at first I even remembered to stay calm, look around and
touch things to anchor myself in the scene.

***

"the right stuff" heh (he seems well-impressed?)

nice one :)

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From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

Naw, I'll tell you how we go about 'unworlding'. :)
It's hinted at in the final sentence of this short article below.

New Scientist

We’ve measured the pressure inside a proton and it’s extreme

Under pressure
By Leah Crane

The inside of a proton is under a lot of pressure. The particle’s centre withstands a billion billion billion times the pressure found at the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Volker Burkert and his colleagues at the Thomas Jefferson National Accelerator Facility in Newport News, Virginia, made the first measurement of the intense conditions inside a proton. And they had to use a bit of trickery to do so.

Protons are made up of three fundamental particles called quarks, which are held together by a force originating from other particles called gluons. To probe this minuscule material, Burkert and his team fired an electron beam at a
proton. The electron
carried with it a packet of energy that behaves like a photon, a particle of light, which it passed off to one of the quarks.

When the electron bounced off one quark, the entire proton recoiled in response, and the quark emitted another high-energy photon.

Measuring how the electron, the proton, and the photon are moving at the end of
the experiment – including their momenta and the angles at which they come away from the collision – let the researchers create a 3D map of the quarks inside the proton.

Faking gravity

But that map doesn’t directly tell us about the forces within the proton. To measure that, we’d need a theoretical particle called a graviton – the carrier of gravity – but we haven’t found any yet. That’s where the trick
comes in.

Information from two photons can be combined to essentially mimic what a graviton would tell us. The two photons here – the one absorbed at the beginning of the experiment, and the one emitted at the end – probed this system as if they were a single
graviton, Burkert says.

This loophole gets us the same information without the need for a direct gravitational probe. “Now we can really probe the heart of the proton,” says collaborator Latifa Elouadrhiri.

The researchers found intense pressures of about 1035 pascals – that’s 10 times the pressure inside a neutron star, which is the densest known object in the universe. That density is a result of extreme pressures. But protons withstand even more.

The quarks at a proton’s centre are pressed tightly together and straining outward to escape with a huge amount of force. Toward the outer edges of the proton, the team also found a confining pressure, likely created by gluons, that holds back the
quarks. Good thing, or the proton would explode.

Journal reference: Nature, DOI: 10.1038/s41586-018-0060-z

***

Is it not bizarre how these TINY structures can contain such an
ENORMOUS amount of energy? I always find it incredibly bizarre. :)

"Good thing, or the proton would explode."

And humans would never cause that to happen, right? :)
Um, you wouldn't ever do that, would you, Mr. Man?
Um, well...

Tear apart one proton, and access the force of 10 neutron stars.
Jesus. Somehow, I'm just betting this WILL happen. :)

.

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - 174! - that's actually 6 in the first 7 days of june?

s'gonna be a good month maybe

next milestone up perforce will be the double century (200!)

and, well, who'd have thunk it eh?

certainly not moi and certainly not so soon?!

hey maybe the human race ain't so slow after all??

plus at this rate, might even have to knock-off a decade or 3 from that
150 years figure!

so c'mon humanity, only another 120 years to go before ya'll stop being
quite so dozy...

(slider humming...)

It's a long way to Tipperary,
It's a long way to go.
It's a long fuckin' way to Tipperary,
To the sweetest place I know!
Fuck off, Piccadilly,
Piss off, Leicester Square!
It's a fuckin' long way to Tipperary,
But my heart's right there.

boom-boom :)

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From: intraphase@gmail.com

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:46:05 AM UTC-4, Jeremy H. Denisovan wrote:

Naw, I'll tell you how we go about 'unworlding'. :)
It's hinted at in the final sentence of this short article below.

New Scientist

We’ve measured the pressure inside a proton and it’s extreme

Under pressure
By Leah Crane

The inside of a proton is under a lot of pressure. The particle’s centre

withstands a billion billion billion times the pressure found at the bottom of the Mariana Trench.

Volker Burkert and his colleagues at the Thomas Jefferson National

Accelerator Facility in Newport News, Virginia, made the first measurement of the intense conditions inside a proton. And they had to use a bit of trickery to do so.

Protons are made up of three fundamental particles called quarks, which are

held together by a force originating from other particles called gluons. To probe this minuscule material, Burkert and his team fired an electron beam at a
proton. The electron
carried with it a packet of energy that behaves like a photon, a particle of light, which it passed off to one of the quarks.

When the electron bounced off one quark, the entire proton recoiled in

response, and the quark emitted another high-energy photon.

Measuring how the electron, the proton, and the photon are moving at the end

of the experiment – including their momenta and the angles at which they come
away from the collision – let the researchers create a 3D map of the quarks inside the proton.

Faking gravity

But that map doesn’t directly tell us about the forces within the proton.

To measure that, we’d need a theoretical particle called a graviton – the carrier of gravity – but we haven’t found any yet. That’s where the trick
comes in.

Information from two photons can be combined to essentially mimic what a

graviton would tell us. The two photons here – the one absorbed at the beginning of the experiment, and the one emitted at the end – probed this system as if they were a
single graviton, Burkert says.

This loophole gets us the same information without the need for a direct

gravitational probe. “Now we can really probe the heart of the proton,” says collaborator Latifa Elouadrhiri.

The researchers found intense pressures of about 1035 pascals – that’s 10

times the pressure inside a neutron star, which is the densest known object in the universe. That density is a result of extreme pressures. But protons withstand even more.

The quarks at a proton’s centre are pressed tightly together and straining

outward to escape with a huge amount of force. Toward the outer edges of the proton, the team also found a confining pressure, likely created by gluons, that holds back the
quarks. Good thing, or the proton would explode.

Journal reference: Nature, DOI: 10.1038/s41586-018-0060-z

***

Is it not bizarre how these TINY structures can contain such an
ENORMOUS amount of energy? I always find it incredibly bizarre. :)

"Good thing, or the proton would explode."

And humans would never cause that to happen, right? :)
Um, you wouldn't ever do that, would you, Mr. Man?
Um, well...

Tear apart one proton, and access the force of 10 neutron stars.
Jesus. Somehow, I'm just betting this WILL happen. :)

.

Its just round numbers but to our gigantic form it takes
a trillion cells, containing a trillion atoms containing
a trillion nodes (closed and open strings)

Yet we are sum totaling three counter clockwise spins as the
earth sun and galaxy fall down hill away from one great void
towards a larger super void at 160 odd miles per second.

We are information patterns transferred across 1>36 zeros nodes
at 160 mps, each node a tint computer that says yes no or maybe
depending on what gets repeated, decayed or canceled.

If, !! there is a dimension of zero and only points being computated
then the higher dimensions a echos of form and style and momentum being computated in the zero.

Check out this lecture, 10 minutes, on the ears amazing structure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsiDKIPpdig

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - here's another WILD one taking off :)

chris you might wanna pay attention to this, as imho his 'determination'
is what's finally paying-off for him here now... he's still going about it
the long way around but he's getting there alright and it wont be long now before he too can switch it all on/off at will + on demand, very cool...

Greg Gonzaga (from the fb WILDs & WILDing group)

hello, this is my third time of success in Wild without the help of Wbtb,
it happen on 11 pm, this is what i i do.. i started around 8 pm, in every
1 hour of Wilding attempt, if i didnt succeed, i take a break for 15
minutes, i wake myself from deep meditation/trance, read some books, etc,
then Wilding again for 1 hour, if didnt succeed, i take a break for 15
minutes, then, Wilding again for 1 hour. just a repetition until morning!

and you know what? i succeed again, i just experience a short lapse of unconsciousness while in deep meditative state (border line of awake and
sleep) , it was 11-12 pm, then i saw myself hovering on beautiful
landscape, the color of plant and trees are very clear and bright, and i
know that i was finally in dream world/parallel world/or whatever you
called it :)

then i wake myself from Wilding, i am very glad that i succeed without the Wbtb, this is my third time now, i practice Wilding again on the next
hour, although i finally fell asleep and didn't experience Ld, but my
dream where so vivid and detail.

and the great news is this.. i didnt experience exhaustion this morning, because i already achieved total rest during Wilding attempt (failed or
not),

note: this is why, Yogis or monk, they do not sleep, their meditation
practice is already equivalent to sleep (in average people). according to Buddhist believe, buddha is enlightened and aware, to the fact he is aware
in any level, his body may go to "sleep mode" during nightime, but his conscious awareness never black-out.

***

obviously, english isn't his first language heh but his message still
comes across clearly enough to be able to see what's going on here... determination/sincerity is what's working for him now, he starts very
early (8pm) and so he's finally breaking-through to an area of awareness
that's always there but which has been forced into the background until
it's only ever accessed in an completely unconscious manner via ordinary
sleep, and this dude (greg) is in-process of waking himself back up from that... cool.

we are... the WILD bunch! :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

chris you might wanna pay attention to this, as imho his 'determination'
is what's finally paying-off for him here now...

i just make attempts from just being natural.
i'm too lazy to go all out like that. Lucid
dreams come up on their own. The less you fuck
with them the easier it is to have a lucid dream.
Natural is the way. Best way to stay out of 'your' way.

### - only dilds come up on their own, WILDs come up too sometimes albeit disguised as something else...

i wouldn't have exactly called a 2-week stint going 'all-out' but then
that's maybe the current world attention-span for ya's in a nutshell
folks... and if that's the way it's going, then surely not long before: if
it ain't done & dusted in 30-seconds flat or less buster then they won't
even wanna know...

no wonder then if'n they'll go all-in for virtual reality out of the box
first!

so you've given up altogether then huh? even tho' you actually had 3 WILDs?

oh well, at least the jeremy will be pleased :D

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

chris you might wanna pay attention to this, as imho his 'determination'
is what's finally paying-off for him here now...

i just make attempts from just being natural.
i'm too lazy to go all out like that. Lucid
dreams come up on their own. The less you fuck
with them the easier it is to have a lucid dream.
Natural is the way. Best way to stay out of 'your' way.

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

no i haven't give up.
i keep my awareness open as possible.
i'm livin' the dream, i don't need
heavy reliance on the homerun dream much.
what would i do if i hit the lottery?
i'd buy a honda dream 50 or maybe go
to disneyland. Or get that Triumph Tiger
i always wanted. And a box of Triumph
t-shirts. Yeah definitely white t-shirts
with the Triumph logo. Put on some Hiway 61
stuff and listen to the Beatles.

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From: slider@anashram.com

no i haven't give up.
i keep my awareness open as possible.
i'm livin' the dream, i don't need
heavy reliance on the homerun dream much.
what would i do if i hit the lottery?

### - can't tell ya that, but am sure you'd find out for yourself just
what to do with it all by yourself heh :)

i'd buy a honda dream 50 or maybe go
to disneyland. Or get that Triumph Tiger
i always wanted. And a box of Triumph
t-shirts. Yeah definitely white t-shirts
with the Triumph logo. Put on some Hiway 61
stuff and listen to the Beatles.

### - nah, that's all just dildo-ing rubbish chris (plus also that of
jeremy's cynicism speaking no doubt) and that's what gives it all that
same impression of being useless...

WILDing, otoh, is the 'active' side of lucid dreaming (good possible title
in there somewhere heh, i wonder why someone didn't think of it before?)

you turns it on and ya turns it off, the question being: what to do with that... ability!

the clear ability to enter into an altered state of awareness very similar
to this and wander around in it for as long as ya likes! it's more than
just another amusements park (although it could be used as such if that's
all someone was looking for...), rather; it's actually an extending of
one's consciousness into other complete areas of awareness + the
implications of being able to do so so very easily, Vs. one's routine
daily outlook on what everything's all about...

ain't gonna try and persuade ya any but look at it this way; if WILDs had emerged 'before' dilds did, the whole thing would have been about
something else altogether other than just lucid dreaming and it's amusing/time-wasting aspects alone; it would instead be more about a
recognised upgrade in & to our human ability to perceive, and the
ramifications of being able to do so compared to what we're all been used
to to-date :)

WILDS wont come to you in a usable form; you have to go to (iow: activate) them...

plus, once activated, ya gets free/effortless dilds thrown-in as well heh
:)

what's better than that??

otoh, and this is the bit you're prolly a bit shy of really heh; giving
the ability to WILD to oneself and really doing it, kinda puts one in the position to have to begin assuming responsibility for one's every other
act as well in a far more deliberate + conscious manner, a situation one
can't really return from after crossing that line so to speak... the
deliberate act of WILDing splicing the concept of acting quite
deliberately into other, perhaps also totally neglected areas of one's
life too!

i mean 'yes' it's easier to just sit there on one's butt doing nada innit,
one doesn't even have to lift a finger right and it all just carries-on to
its natural conclusion! it's all already been set in-motion for us! and
that's fine if ya don't mind where it's all going to? (nowhere!)

but... there IS another option! a far more deliberately conscious one
perhaps?

conscious on purpose! (yeah that's a good 'un!)

because we... can! - only perforce no one ever bothers lol :)

plus could that be why ultimately the world's goin' down the drain already?

probably! - no one can even lift their heads!

too tired, too sleepy... too overworked!

so a lifetime's habit of just letting it all happen huh, even when it's
shit?

and then ya gets people like george orwell walkin' around, lookin' at 'em
and remarking; fuck me, this lot's livin' in a twilight sleep!

(was speaking with a young india lad just today, who's been tryin' for
months to WILD or even get any kinda lucid dream at all, and where he was
stuck was not ever getting too see any hypnagogia, just couldn't ever see
any no matter what he did, occasionally saw some blue/purple phosphenes
(he called them) but which vanished away just as soon as he looked at them hehehe, and this went on like this for months until just the other day,
when it was realised that the reason these initial colours were vanishing
away was because his eyes were darting about trying to catch them hah, he stopped doing that and just stared straight ahead no matter what happened/appeared, images emerged outta these cloud-like wisps and the
next thing ya know he was WILDing hahaha, + has had 2 more (better
controlled ones) since! he's only 16 and of course is now over the
proverbial moon with it all + is an absolutely true story! (have asked him
to maybe post his results after trying for so very long and getting
nowheres, so he might...)

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

still you have to ask yourself after you have WILDed
or DILDed then what? Wait for that Nobel dream prize
in the mail? LOL! What can you actually take to
the bank here with this dreaming? Let's be realistic.
After you wake up in the morning (or night) what's next?
Life goes on, you STILL have to do something.
I mean it's great you can dream, but can you make
shit happen? Eh? Can you make YOUR dream come in?

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From: slider@anashram.com

still you have to ask yourself after you have WILDed
or DILDed then what? Wait for that Nobel dream prize
in the mail? LOL! What can you actually take to
the bank here with this dreaming? Let's be realistic.
After you wake up in the morning (or night) what's next?
Life goes on, you STILL have to do something.
I mean it's great you can dream, but can you make
shit happen? Eh? Can you make YOUR dream come in?

### - thought you had it all worked out by now?? that what the human race appears to be lacking is some real reality in their lives instead of all
this plastic shite that doesn't really 'do' anything except maybe tickle
our collective fancy & pollute the oceans besides heh...

with no such real reality in their lives to guide them they've all thus
become sleepy/apathetic!

everyone mooching around with no real direction (or even joy) in their
lives except mundane needs, so they spend their lives getting into trouble
and then trying to get out of it again!

the benefits of WILDing thus being; the 'opportunity' to again take the
reins of one's own life up into one's own hands and advance accordingly
from there/differently... to regain again the ability to direct and/or guide... ourselves!

we gots an awful lot of late-starters in 'this' generation innit huh, but
the next might not be so slow off the mark, and the one after that more
astute yet...

it all depends, they are all currently asleep, and all like you in that
it's really hard by now to even bother getting outta their beds and
'trying' anything hah!

and no one's gonna help ya's either! can't help ya's! 'coz ya's either
gets your shit together or not? 'you' have to decide for you! - and
perforce it wont even count unless it's a conscious decision to either do
it, or leave it! (and DON'T let anyone else make up your mind for you
either, okaaay? 'coz they'll only too willing to do that lol...)

you can't make your 'dream' come in; you can, however, make your 'life'
come in :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - he 'did' post his experience heh :)

Muhammed Fayis 14 June 21:09
Hi all....

Finally i succeded in WILDing...& had 3 beautiful ,very realistic ,fully
lucid, & awesomeee WILDs...
& for all those who asks me to how to succed in it ,the answer is here "PERSISTENCE"...
YES!!! U read it right???
Persistence is the key to WILDing & anyone those who want to WILD ,i'll recommend them to try for it daily ,even if u fail,still u will be having
a slight progress...
So friends,thats the secret to WILDing...
& also i had so many dilds automatically when i started to learn WILDing..
I hope this helps u to be on the TRACK...
If any doubts or questions,feel free to ask it on the comment box!!!
& special THANKS for Brian, Dikshant & Mia taking time to help me to
WILD...

***

nice :)

this very young dude will likely spend a lifetime exploring WILDing + what exactly can be done/accomplished with/via it... just imagine what he might
know about it all in 50 years time eh? plus anything to know about it will surely all be known by then?! = stage 1 complete :)

commence stage 2: = another 50 years of spreading eager public
use/exploration of our ability to WILD

stage 3: another 50 years of the generally accepted global application of
WILDs & WILDing in general daily usage & life, to the point it actually
alters how people generally live and society moves-over somewhat to
include its usage as society itself is eventually redefined by our new/more-inclusive abilities... tada!

and then it's welcome to the Age of Aquarius folks! :D hehehehehe

(grinning; slider gives jeremy the slooow finger hah!)

:P

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From: slider@anashram.org

### - with 2 or 3 newbie successes WILDing just this last week, have noted
this current/ongoing conversation heh:

Karsten Rune Pedersen That is wonderful news, Muhammed. Congratulations to
you too. It is almost like popcorn popping now ! Excellent.

Muhammed Fayis Yes..we are burning to burst out!!!

Karsten Rune Pedersen Muhammed Fayis I will follow you soon, I think.

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like popcorns going off is right!

mmm popcorn...

seconds anyone? :)

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From: allreadydun@gmail.com

meet the new nagual, ha ha *

like popcorns going off is right!

mmm popcorn...

seconds anyone? :)

probably not as bad as the old nagual ha ha

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From: slider@anashram.com

meet the new nagual, ha ha *

like popcorns going off is right!

mmm popcorn...

seconds anyone? :)

probably not as bad as the old nagual ha ha

### - if you say so, whatever...

(slider gives crsds the slow finger as well lol :)))

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From: slider@anashram.com

Y�cel Karacalar hi Muhammed Fayis, please give some details about your technique and routine? What is your technique(Brian Aherne's method?) and
when did you practice it?(Before bed time or wbtb etc.), How long does it
take thank you wilder :)

Muhammed Fayis I followed exactly what Brian mentioned in his book...i
only practice before bedtime...i never tried wbtb,& when i start to
practice it daily ,i had my first wild in 8 days...(i already know how to achieve that relaxation state)...so yes..for me it takes about 8 days to
find hypnagogia...

### - that'll do nicely sir!

nada false-news about that :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - a 180!!!

(laffing 'coz they raise a ruckus whenever someone scores 180 in darts
hehehe) ;)

a hunnnndred aaand EIGHTY!!!

hahaha :)

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From: slider@anashram.com

### - Never heard of this dude before, so this is someone first
discovering & then posting about their WILD experience on fb, the
popularity (and awareness) of WILDs apparently increasing :)

Henry Herrera‎
to Lucid Dreamers and Scientists - The Network for Lucid Dreaming Research
·
I was on my way home with a friend yesterday, and we were talking a lot
during the car ride. The conversation eventually led to lucid dreaming as
we were having an argument about the definition of "sleep paralysis." He
then told me about some called, "WILD" (Wake Initiation of Lucid Dreams).
I've been lucid dreaming since I was a toddler and I've never heard of the term. He explained briefly how it was done and I was intrigued and decided
to give it a shot that night.

I went to sleep as normal, but reminded myself that if I wake up for
randomly in the middle of the night to try the WILD technique before going
back to sleep. So I did; I did what my friend said which was to get in a comfortable position, relax my body, focus on the sound of silence around
me, and let my body fall asleep while I keep my mind awake. Sure enough it actually worked. Goodness it was a trip. I'll explain it a bit more in
depth in another post since it's quite detailed.

What do you guys think of this technique though? Have you ever tried WILD before? If yes, how long did it take you do manage it? I'd love to hear
about it.

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now that's wot me likes alright: WILDs already spreading by word of mouth
alone heh...

kewl :)

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From: slider@anashram.org

### - aaand another one!

new WILD one that is heh :)

Deborah Flak [Lucid Dreaming, Astral Projection, Out of Body Experience,
Astral Travel group]

So I enjoyed my first WILD this morning - thanks for the tip! This is much
more accessible and more 'on demand' than regular lucid dreaming. Very interesting to watch what happens as we begin to fall asleep and as these images pop up!

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smile, this gal only had to read my posted (excerpt) 'intro to WILDs &
WILDing' to pick it all up just like that? i mean, talk about like a
proverbial fish to water??

admittedly, from her pov she was already experiencing strange + rather
puzzling bedtime effects (hypnagogia) and didn't know what they were or
what was happening etc, even felt like she was maybe rising out of her
body the last time by being somehow pulled by these images and doing her
best not to panic or let anything pull her, she was worried... picking up
on that report i mentioned WILDs to her, suggesting she let go and just
let them pull her and she'll then find herself in a vivid lucid dream
called a WILD, attached the intro to WILDing etc, and let her get on with
it... and that was only a couple of days ago! and now here she is WILDing
like a sob just like that!

very cool actually + imho/observation is pretty good proof of concept all
round :)

that once ya 'get' to those hypangogia + have even a vague idea of what to
do then with 'em, it's a breeze from there to go WILD!

i like it :)

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