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off from reality and living on the charity of other folk instead of
your own efforts.

### - you're the one's who's "cut-off" from reality thang (the 'real'
reality i mean, not some delusional + grandiose pipe-dream of material
'success' you indulge in + elevate yourself in your own eyes via; you
vain
fuck! hah!)

You sound envious.

### - envious you YOUR fumbling pedantic ways?? riiiight... :)))

Chris has the idea when he says, and more than
once, that "blessed is the child who has no debt". That's my major
accomplishment pal, I owe nobody. Period. Zilch. Everything I own
is owned fully. No bank can foreclose my house, or take my cars, and
my money is ...my money. I can live independently for as long as I
like. What's vain about that? I did it the hard way, as a kid from a
broken home and working class background who self-taught, paid my way
through uni, worked to the top of my profession in this city, did it
all with my own hands. Never borrowed one fucking cent off my father
or anyone else except for the banks and they've been off my back now
since the late 1990's.

It's all cold hard fact. No delusion, no illusion, no grandiosity, no
pipe dreams, no alcoholic stupor, no drugs (except dope), just cold
hard fact.

### - no... that's only AFTER you decided to settle down with a family
thang, BEFORE that you were living (and behaving) like an absolutely
selfish cunt! ("stole from them and fucked their women" etc etc... your
own words remember??)

Nope just a kid from a broken home who had to toughen up or be
devoured by all the scum out there who prey on young kids who are
homeless. Of course I was selfish, how could I have survived if I
wasn't?

You probably had a silver spoon in your mouth and an easy childhood,
unlike myself. You therefore wouldn't really know what you're talking
about :)

I would go for days without food and needed to swipe milk or bread
from home deliveries left on doorsteps, that sort of thing. I guess
if I did that in your country 150 years ago I would have been hung,
the British were always good at killing children who stole food to
survive.

And you, sucker living in a state of parasitic welfare, pretend to
laugh at me? Lol. Wakey wakey...

### - material possessions ain't everything ya know? (well, they are to
YOU 'coz you don't have anything else??) + any cunt can be a robber! not >everyone can easily end up being a decent human being though heh ;)

In the West they are essential. You need to become debt free and have
some assets because with the former and without the latter you are at
the complete mercy of the state and corporates. I got my shit by
honest labour not by robbing pal, hard work and study and politics and
perhaps you once attempted that as well but gave up for some reason. I
consider my assets to be a buffer between independence and slavery. I
would rather be dead than be a slave.

Some would say that you are a slave to the state because what if
Brexit goes belly up, and your state goes broke? Will they still pay
welfare?

and, well, i think we know a little song about that don't we folks
heh...

We? You don't speak for me Slider, never have, never will.

### - smile; it's a common enough joke-saying from childhood you
pedantic
ninny! :)

you really should try to cease being such a 'seri-arse' all the time?
and
then lol ya might even be able to tune into the occasional 'jokes'
people
make?? :)

You don't have a sense of humour. You're too thin skinned. You're
almost as bad as David Jerome and he is definitely thin skinned. My
serious attitude is necessary in this world as you will soon see when
the Iranians stop their oil flow and the price of living starts to
rise in cities such as London.

### - don't blame ME (or others) for YOUR lack of ability to comprehend, >you're the one with the mental (and emotional) handicap here, not moi! >(really laffing...) i.e., i can nearly 'always' understand what you're
saying but you can almost never quite understand moi in the same manner,
and that's MY fault?? you conceited prick! + lol @ such arrogance! :)

you're like a child! you can't understand so you piss & moan about the
faults of others merely as a means to 'deflect' - ffs grow up! we're not
in the schoolyard now!? (well, maybe you still are, but i'm definitely not >hehehe...)

No just you mate, just you. You're always trolling about Iran, Syria,
North Korea, WW3, nuclear weapons, wally world, the degeneracy of our
species, the environment and so on - but never, ever anything positive
about anything. That is highly abnormal. It's not pissing and
moaning I do about "faults of others", it's usually just about you
because you don't see any good in anyone, ever, unless they're iconic
figures such as Mandela or Gandhi who are forever out of reach of
common persons such as you and I.

What about the people in London who help the poor, the drug ravaged
and the homeless? Like St Vincent de Paul, the Salvo's, the Red Cross
and countless others? You can walk into London from your flat and
encounter good deeds everywhere if you just look. Not everyone is the
way you paint them. I criticise your attitude because it's so fucking
boring and grey and dismal that it begs to be criticised. That's a
fault, but it's a fault of yours, not of others.

Don't you have any relatives or friends you consider to be really good
people who you can discuss here, like Dave does with his son and his
son's friends and their movie making? I'm not like you, always greay, overcast, despondent and critical of everyone except one's self.
Surely you don't dispute this?

I know people like you. Your type are all "hail fellow well met" on
the surface but underneath your type is a seething mass of hatred and
jealousy.

### - heh, you're making the 'mistake' (again!) of 'projecting' yourself
onto others... i.e., lol you're merely describing yourself and don't
realise it!

you DON'T know people like me thang; you ONLY know people like... yourself!

because you are ALL of the above! :)

Well yeah, I guess you've got me all worked out :)
I do admit to a bit of chagrin at peoples' stupidity and the venality
of politicians, CEOs and so on in general. But there is a lot of good
in people too, and in the race overall, and I always excuse our
species' behaviour on the basis that we evolved as predators and it is
going to take more than a few thousand years for our atavistic
behaviour to be controlled.

It doesn't take a lot to sting you and when stung, you
react accordingly, all superficialities dropped and the real person
revealed. The slider exposed. Otherwise, mate, I wouldn't talk to
you like this. I would treat you with more respect and probably be
friendlier to you but that won't happen because underneath it all,
you're really not a very nice person.

### - in truth you dunno WTF you're talking about and so you waffle-on
like an idiot hoping to deflect from the real subject here: your own >stupidity & denseness! (try making an 'effort' to understand you prick >instead of just blaming everyone else for 'your' own inadequacies! heh...
YOU don't understand something so THEY must be wrong?? fuck off!)

No, you mean I don't agree with you therefore everything I say, in disagreement, must be wrong. Were I to agree with you I would be ok,
probably the world's greatest genius. You are just being extremely
egocentric but that's understandable too, I guess, living alone as you
do.

Probably the best representation of our species here is Chris, who I
believe *is* a genuinely nice bloke who proverbially wouldn't hurt a
fly and does his best, often, to try to level out people such as me.

### - well you've certainly changed your tune then?? 'coz only very
recently you were calling him all the cunts under the sun until i pointed >certain things out about him that you, apparently, singularly couldn't
read for yourself??

I got snarky about his evident refusal to throw words around but then
came to realise that it's just the way he is, not done on purpose. As
a person, I think you can see from the way he sometimes tries to
mediate that he's ok.

I also didn't like one single comment he made about his daughter,
being a cop, and her guns. I don't like cops. Never have, never
will. But it's not his fault that he has progeny who want to point
guns at people and turn keys on fellow humans.

Doesn't change my evaluation of him though.

I'm not a very nice person either slider but the difference between
you and I is that I know I'm not a very nice person, but you go on as
if you are. You're not.

### - aww so ya dont like it when the tables get turned on you huh? and
then we see your REAL colours don't we! riiiight...

No I'm regretful at a bad temper and things I've done over the years,
sometimes to loved ones. I've nevertheless ended up with people who
love me warts and all though, probably because I admit I'm a prick
from time to time and I have the soul and heart to feel remorse.

Are you saying you're perfect? If so, why haven't you ended up with a
long term relationship with a partner, male or female? I know you
live alone so that didn't work out which means you're a cunt as well
but you don't have remorse or guilt or at least don't or can't express
same.

I've had tables turned on me plenty of times and while I don't like
it, I understand it. I know myself pretty well. Do you?

(hehehe you're very slooow to catch-on sometimes ya know? and then you
jump in like you know what's going on and make an utter twat of yourself >>> in the process?? hehehe it's a good job i like ya sport or i'd be
kicking
your bollocks up your dirtbox by now lol:)

lighten up dudearoo! :D

+ try looking before ya leap sometimes innit!

hehehehehe...

You only want me to agree with you. I won't and can't until you start
taking a good look at yourself and the reality of your situation.

### - learn some objectivity thang, or you just always gonna sound (and
look) like a gonzo lol (sooo slooow hehehe...)

Oh I'm objective slider, painfully so. Trained by good teachers.
Objective, pragmatic, whichever way you slice it. You, on the other
hand, are a dreamer in almost every way that matters. Your sense of
balance is all skewed.

I'm
so fucking sick if people being self deluded, it's prevalent in real
life and now it's all over usenet as well. You go from hot to cold
and back to hot again. You need to steer a steady course, make your
mind up and don't change it. Keep to the rudder mate.

### - you're the one who's deluded lol, and the one incapable of steering
a straight course and so you accuse everyone else of same?? you're >projecting' and don't realise it! so how fucking 'aware' is that?? (hardly >any actually, truth is you're so far up your own arse ya can't tell the >difference between shit & shinola lol)

Yep old american saying I believe, you must have read it somewhere.
You usually accuse me of being inflexible which means that I don't
change course, but now you're saying that I'm incapable of steering a
straight course, which means of course (!) that I'm actually flexible.

Make a view and stick with it.

I don't like flattery either, I don't need it and it's a waste of
time. Let's call a spade a shovel.

### - lol it's always you you you you YOU???

who the fuck wants to talk about... YOU??

oh that's right: YOU do LOL!!!

(stfu about YOU! and then stfu about moi! and then MAYBE we can even have
a decent + objective conversation for once instead of always but always >ending up talking about... YOU?????) jeeze...

Well that will just leave you talking your usual crap about how bad
the human race is - except for you. That would be unbearable. I need
to make some static as a distraction from your morbidity.

i mean, if you're really just trying to BORE me to death then you're >succeeding!?

(i thought jeremy was bad? but he's just tryin' to be a cunt (and is
actually very good at it heh, i think maybe because he practices when he's
on his own? lol) but YOU actually mean it and are doing it all for real??

But all I said above is factual and therefore accurate. I admit I've
lapsed into occasional reverie about your personality and formative
influences, some hypotheses about why you are who you are, and you
don't like it, but you are always going on about the "hell" everyone
lives in on this planet except for you, how everyone lives in
"wallyworld" except for you, how we're all cunts except for you.

You are incapable of recognising any good in anyone. Perhaps that's
because you have some issues with your own worth in the hustle and
bustle of one of the world's busiest cities?

In any case, it's one of the most startling examples of exceptionalism
I've ever seen. Hey, slider, I admit I'm a fucking cunt of a thang
from time to time, but you are exceptional to that as well (in your
own mind).

Loosen those rusty bolts and get with the program mate :)

you boring old cunt! :)

Ps. ain't gonna 'bother' replying to the rest of your similar shite +
morose remarks in other posts today, as all are but deflections away from
the 'actual' topics involved therein, likely because you don't actually
have any real opinion so you switch to chatting personal shit about peeps
you don't even know... duh + what a complete waste of my time & breath...
no thanks drongo!)

Heh. I thought I'd try something new and respond to your drivel from
the bottom up rather than the somewhat predictable top down.
Immediataly I notice how angry you are in this final paragraph of
yours, not even a smiley - indicating I not only spoke the truth but
you had no alternative but to absorb it as the truth.

Truth hurts but it's for your improvement and you should take it as
such. I don't give a fuck whether you ever become, or ever were, a so
called "productive member of society" - but you still have some years
ahead of you presumably and you can certainly become a better person,
whether as part of society or not is irrelevant. And by better, I
don't mean join a church, help old people across the road, snitch to
the cops, none of that crap - I mean become happier within yourself,
more certain of yourself and more satisfied with yourself. Because
it's patently obvious you have let the world agitate you. You spend
so much time looking outwards and hating what you see that you've let
your internal self die off. It needs way more care than you give it
and you need to stop the hate and work on self.

Anyhow, I'm gonna work up now, read your stuff and reply if
worthwhile. Scroll up...

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woman and if necessary puts a potential rapist in hospital is lauded
and congratulated. I suspect the same in GB as well, bearing in mind
the extent of crime in London. Why are you so wimpish about stuff
like that? You got a pair haven't you?

On the other hand, if you're homosexual, I apologise for the comment
above about not having females in your life.

You are comparing apples with oranges. You can't possible think that
it is possible to rationally compare a child, with it's half formed
brain, with an adult? Really?

### - for all their so-developed brains most adults are cunts; having
lost
their innocence they've also almost completely lost their humanity too
in
the process; what's so difficult to understand about that?? (unless
you're
as thick as shit that is hehehe...) :)

They never were innocent. You clearly have never had children.

### - already TOLD ya that i have? that have been there/done that and that >it's now all behind me?

mahatma-slider i called myself as a joke in that regard? (the 'same' joke >jeremy then leaped on to accuse me of having abandoned my family & kids, >remember?)

No I don't remember. Did you abandon your wife and kids? Or did they
abandon you? Or, did you never have a family? Someone is a very
callous person.

The
younger the child, the more psychopathic the personality. In the
first critical years, a baby thinks only of itself. It's mother could
die yet it would only think of its needs, food, comfort, warmth and so
on. As psychopathic as you can imagine.

### - fuck off with children are psychopaths? what kinda children did you >have?? lol :)

Simple cunt. I wonder why I bother.

kids are wide open to whatever they're exposed to! they become what
they're 'shown' to become and don't 'invent' ANY of it for themselves!

Didn't you abandon yours? Or they abandoned you? Or you didn't have
any? In any of these cases, how the royal FUCK would you know?

Adolescents are the most imperfect form of human imaginable, sloppy,
loathsome tempered, secretive, duplicitous - ask any mother. It's
when they develop into adults, and all those hormonal changes and so
on are in the past, that they develop the moral mind, ethical thought
processes and so on which accompany most of them through life until
they die. The very few who go bad do so usually because of
environmental effects in their early childhood, poverty, sexual abuse,
broken marriages and so on.

So you see, through your inexperience with children, you have arrived
at a conclusion which is contrary to the facts. Children are rarerly
perfect beings (outside of looks which is very superficial) - they
become much better beings as they grow older.

### - bollocks! the vast (apart from the drones) the vast majority of them >become delinquent!

Holy fuck. You are so sick Brian, to think that. My god. Most kids
I know have never been delinquent. They develop into perfectly good
adults. What a twisted outlook on your own species you have.

and end up as politicians or bankers or summat really fuckin' dumb like
that LOL :)

Yep that's right, not only is it easy to make money, it takes someone
really dumb to make that easy money. You, on the other hand, living
on welfare and too fucking lazy or stupid to have ever worked for a
living, have never taken advantage of how easy it is to make that
money, nor have you taken a high paying job where you could actually
change the culture or make ethical decisions to help people because
you're not dumb enough to stoop to such depths.

You'd rather be on the dole.

And speaking of those "completely corrupted adults that raise them",
are ^you^ one of those? Whether or not you have had children, are you >>>> one of those completely corrupted adults? If not, slider, please tell >>>> me how you escaped what you describe as the almost universal
corruption of adults? Or are you also completely corrupted?

### - the world (and humanity) being the fucked up way it is said
'corruption' is unavoidable, one's humanity WILL be compromised! but
that
doesn't absolutely mean that a goodly proportion of that lost humanity
(and innocence) can't be regained to some reasonable & effective
degree...

How? By the nuclear war (cleansing) you so avidly await?

### - more like: avidly 'anticipate' occurring old bean...

Nope. You hope for extinction so that you can have your revenge. In
the US, where guns are freely available, you might even have already
taken your revenge on humanity.

because THAT'S the way the world has been going for centuries!

Nope. The world and homo sapiens are two entirely different things.
and the world has been "going" now for around 5 thousand million
years.

that what they call 'progress' is actually a long slow steady decline in >their humanity at base!

Fucking A garbage. If we didn't have the tech to reduce infant
mortality, provide antibiotics, operate where necessary, you might not
be at your current old age. You might have died decades ago or even
at birth.

You are an ungrateful son of a bitch and I wonder who puts up with
your nonsense in the real world, if you ever get out of your council
flat that is.

If we and everyone else are all "completely corrupted adults", then
people like you who are not so corrupted must be rarer than hens'
teeth. Rarer than unicorn shit.

### - that's RIGHT! for once you've got it right! incredibly RARE!
almost
doesn't ever happen! but only because they (people) don't receive the
correct education! (iow: the education they 'do' receive' is what
actually
fucks them up till they're no more than mumbling idiots talking
endlessly
about themselves all the time! (kinda like you do hehehe...)

And the one time you agree with me is the one time I use sarcasm -
which you fail to identify as such.

How ironic.

### - yes how ironic! how ironic you joke about an ultimately serious
problem and yet don't realise just how wrong you are in taking it all as >being a joke?? ironic indeed!

Look, sooner or later our species will die off. Either through
supplanting by the next evolutionary step, some global geophysical or astronomical catastrophe, plague, or simple wearing out of our
chromosomes. But we won't do it by war or destroying the environment
- both we and life in general are too resilient.

Why worry? Get on with life. Oh I forgot, you don't have one - no
interests, no companions, no family, no future, no fucking hope.

lost now of course...

What morose bullshit you talk.

### - you really think the likes of old trumpy could ever return to
'his'
youthful + lost innocence by now?? riiiiight... he's lost alright!
well
fucked!

not a chance in... hell! (heh)

What innocence? Who's innocent? We're predators evolved from a long
line of predators and at the moment we're the apex predator. All
things bow before us as a species. Doesn't sound like innocence to me >>>> :)

### - not until ya examine the state of the planet and all the shit
peeps
have done to it in their process of being sooo fucking clever that they
can't HELP but fuck everything up?? (starts off as all being perfectly
innocent enough and then just look what they (you) turn into! mostly
total
cunts! heh...)

But we're predators Slider. You can take the predator out of the
jungle but can't take the jungle out of the predator.

### - oh stfu about that lol! truth is you LIKE predator don'tcha!

Ever owned a cat? I've had scores of cats as pets, up to three at a
time. Yep, I like predators.

justifies ALL your shit??

I don't need justification. I'm usually correct.

the 'evolved' wont BE predators thang! won't have to be!

sapians are/were the predators! (we hunted & ate the thalls to extinction
for example heh)

What's a thall?

That's why we
have incisor and canine teeth, to tear and rip meat. Otherwise we'd
have flat fucking herbivore teeth.

### - we 'actually' descended from vegetarians originally you gonzo LOL
:))))

all those flat teeth? (laffing)

We're omnivores. That means we eat what's going. Part of what's
going is meat on the hoof. Until we discovered fire, we ate that part
of our diet raw. The incisors and canines allow us to rip and tear
the meat from bones. The molars allow us to masticate practically
anything.

"Omnivores

Omnivores, such as raccoons, opossums, bears, and humans, are animals
that consume both plant and animal material. Accordingly, omnivores
have dentition, skulls, and teeth suitable for handling a variety of
foods. Most omnivores have evolved different types of teeth, located
in different parts of their mouths. In such scenarios, each type of
tooth excels at handling a different type of food. For example, humans
use their incisors and canines for ripping and cutting, and their
molars and premolars for grinding. Biologists describe animals with
such teeth as having heterodont dentition. By contrast, the teeth of
homodont animals, such as iguanas, are all the same shape. As with
some carnivores that have teeth to aid in prey capture, some omnivores
have teeth that help them to obtain, rather than process, their food.
Rodents are famous for their long, continuously growing incisors,
which they use to chew through husks, shells and wood. This allows
them to access well-protected or difficult-to-access foods, such as
nuts. Although rodents are omnivores that occasionally eat insects and
scavenge carcasses, plant material makes up the bulk of their diet.
Their dentition reflects this as well: Rodents have strong molars, yet
lack canine teeth entirely. Instead, rodents have a gap between their
incisors and molars, termed a diastema."

https://www.mainstreetsmiles.com/dental-and-skull-anatomy-of-carnivores-herbivores-and-omnivores/

Notice you don't comment on reality or facts, you just waffle on in
your own little dream world. Delusions of aggrandizement and self
worth, propped up on a pedastal constructed of fantasy about how
inferior the rest of humanity is compared to you.

### - nah, you're the one doing all that; bragging about all your millions
in the bank?

I don't have millions in the bank. I don't own any property other
than in what I live (I don't like on principle renting to those who
could never afford to live in their own house). I have enough to see
me out and importantly I DON"T FUCKING OWE MONEY TO ANYONE.

You are flat out stupid. I've made the point about not owing money to
anyone. Chris has stated more than one that "blessed be the child who
has no debt". The aim is not to amass a fortune (why?) but to ensure
you owe no one. I've acheived that aim.

fat lot of use it'll be to ya when one day you go to get some out and the >bank is fucking closed forever?

Ever heard of a safe deposit box? I don't believe in keeping
everything electronic. I like keeping at least half in negotiables.

riiiight... (you're crazy to ever play their game and actually take it for >real sport, they'll screw you in the end...)

So who is this "they" to whom you allude?

Try this. Open that bottle of reality and take a half teaspoon. Swill >>>> around your mouth. Drink slowly with eyes half closed. Wait for the
hit...

### - and then LOL cram it up your arse! 'coz you don't half talk a load >>> of shit sometimes thang LOL!

(they don't know it's "evil" 'coz it's all they know/were ever shown >>>>>>> to
know, so never had a hope, all involved/steeped in playing some
crazy
mad
game for keeps, all makes pure sense to 'em too, it all adds-up for >>>>>>> 'em
see? and perforce they're all completely insane...)

Jeez...

### - well you're almost as badly off AS them!? (fortunately for you >>>>> though, you've been chatting/hob-knobbing with yours truly for the
last
few years heh and thus i've been able to gradually drag your lazy fat >>>>> arse
up a couple or 3 levels in the meantime till you're now 'almost' (but >>>>> still not quite heh) nearly... sane?!

you may or may not yet get out! but currently you're still 'in' the
hell
whereof i speak! ;)

You don't know me or anything about me but for what I write here.

### - i 'know' you're an arsehole, isn't that enough?? (laffing...)

Well you've learnt one thing at least, as a Brit it's "arsehole" not
"asshole". Good work.

### - why does useless shit like that even matter to ya's??

omg-forbid he ever forgots to cross one of his t's already!

it would literally be the end of the world LOL :)))

Because it helps to keep a tidy mind. It's probably too late for you.

Pots
shouldn't call kettles black either.

### - precisely what i've been saying to YOU all along??

You basically don't know the
fuck what you're prattling on about.

### - and even if i did YOU wouldn't be ABLE to understand it anyway!
isn't that right??

Yeah, sure. Whatever you say.

### - well if you're gonna be rude to moi why shouldn't i give ya's a few >digs back by return??

you stop and i'll stop! (it's you that started it all anyway remember?)

I can't believe you've ever had
a long term relationship or children in your life because there is no
way, no way at all, any woman outside of a kept woman or woman of the
night, would put up with the shit you come out with or your
self-delusions. Nor would children allow you to get away with this
crap. They would say to you that you're full of shit and an
embarrassment to them and please, please - don't be the crazy man when >>>> our friends are over. Please shave, cut your hair, wash your clothes, >>>> and don't talk crazy...:)

### - have never really 'fitted-in' that's true enough... 'conformity'
was
never my thing and have lived a very different (almost alternate) life
to
most peeps because of it... it's what makes me an outsider heh ;)

True alternate lifestyle would be to save money to buy some land and
build a house and then live off the grid, perhaps Tesla
batteries/solar panels, bore and rain water, livestock and home grown
veggies and pot etc.

### - so alternate to you is basically doing what everyone 'else' does & >aspired to + believes in, and anyone who doesn't DO all that is a cunt?? >riiiight... :))))

heh i may not have worked 9-to-5 all my life (damn right i didn't! no more >than i slept 8 hours every night like clockwork either) but, i had ALL
that time to (and for) myself instead of giving it away for nada more than
a few measly bucks each week and a lost life?? fuck that!

How does living in the middle of one of the world's biggest
conurbations on government welfare in a government flat make you an
"outsider"? Or "alternate"?

### - i found 'other' (alternate) ways to get by other than being/becoming
a wage-slave heh

not all of it always strictly legal ;)

Bullshit. You're not the type. Try not to lie. You're all grown up
now.

quite a lot of wallyworld actually sucks that way? an amusement
theme-park

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much later, and it only comes to a small fraction of that population.
What the fuck are you on about?

and end up as politicians or bankers or summat really fuckin' dumb like
that LOL :)

Yep that's right, not only is it easy to make money, it takes someone
really dumb to make that easy money. You, on the other hand, living
on welfare and too fucking lazy or stupid to have ever worked for a
living, have never taken advantage of how easy it is to make that
money, nor have you taken a high paying job where you could actually
change the culture or make ethical decisions to help people because
you're not dumb enough to stoop to such depths.

You'd rather be on the dole.

### - see? you 'defend' that whole lifestyle when that 'same' lifestyle is >undeniably destroying not only the human race but the rest of the world
too??

Oh fuck off. Asteroids destroy, but even then they don't take out all
life. Climate change destroys (proper, historic, geologic climate
change) but doesn't eliminate life. How can bacteria, insects,
spiders, virii, rats and cockroaches and so on be destroyed by humans?
We can't even keep the cunts out of our houses and kitchens...

Perhaps a massive gamma ray burst from a near supernova, but even that
would only fry the part of the earth facing the beam.

if only you'd allow yourself to be a little more objective you'd decry the >shit that's all around us too! the shit humanity's drowning in! but then
you 'refuse' to even examine that stance don't you?

I'm more open to evidence and the interpretation of evidence than
anyone and I'm far better read and educated than you. But I will not
agree with your bullshit until you put evidence in front of me - not "wallyworld" nonsense but proper evidence. Facts. So far, you are "factophobic" - change that, and I'll have some decent respect for
you.

doesn't exist to you! basically 'coz that's all you can ever see (and
'want' to see) from your ivory tower!

you're basically 'fiddling' while rome burns! and you don't even realise
it??

duh!

And speaking of those "completely corrupted adults that raise them", >>>>>> are ^you^ one of those? Whether or not you have had children, are >>>>>> you
one of those completely corrupted adults? If not, slider, please
tell
me how you escaped what you describe as the almost universal
corruption of adults? Or are you also completely corrupted?

### - the world (and humanity) being the fucked up way it is said
'corruption' is unavoidable, one's humanity WILL be compromised! but >>>>> that
doesn't absolutely mean that a goodly proportion of that lost humanity >>>>> (and innocence) can't be regained to some reasonable & effective
degree...

How? By the nuclear war (cleansing) you so avidly await?

### - more like: avidly 'anticipate' occurring old bean...

Nope. You hope for extinction so that you can have your revenge. In
the US, where guns are freely available, you might even have already
taken your revenge on humanity.

### - lol you open your gob all all this shite just spills out without
even a single thought behind it?? - an unthinking parrot! no soul!
completely empty! a mere shell of a human being...

what a shame! (and i really mean that heh...)

But you do. You act with glee when you think serious shit like WW3,
nuclear exchanges, NK firing weapons at the US, war between Russia and
Europe and so on is going to happen. You veritably slaver at the
mouth. You drool in anticipation of the impending demise of the human
race.

That is evidence to me of a sickness of the mind. Even in my wildest
dreams, my most desperate time of life, under the vilest assault by
bad luck and circumstance, I would never wish destruction on the human
race. I would do anything to avoid it. I value our species as the
prime attainment of life on this planet, with all our faults, we are
the most complex organisms on the planet and our minds are the most
complex and least understood phenomena in the universe, that we know
of.

Yet you slaver when you think war will erupt. It is fucking sickening
slider. You need to stop, it's frankly disgusting. Awful.

because THAT'S the way the world has been going for centuries!

Nope. The world and homo sapiens are two entirely different things.
and the world has been "going" now for around 5 thousand million
years.

### - ahahaha change the subject why don'tcha lol, prevaricate yourself
away from reality huh?

else, i suppose, you'd have to change innit heh, and you're not prepared
to!

so drown then already! 'coz am fucked if am gonna let ya drag me down with >ya!

you're a fool thang!

How come a man with a self described IQ of, what was it, 160, can't
follow my argument? Hell, I'm only around 130-140, bottom of the
garden normal distribution average intellect. You should be able to
follow me.

I didn't change the subject, nor did I prevaricate, or dissemble, or
lie, or even befuddle. You talked in centuries, this world works in
geological time frames, minimum quanta being thousands of years,
average quanta millions.

You forget, I collect fossils, and I collect them for a reason. I'll
upload some nice pics of some of my world class collection if you're interested.

that what they call 'progress' is actually a long slow steady decline in >>> their humanity at base!

Fucking A garbage. If we didn't have the tech to reduce infant
mortality, provide antibiotics, operate where necessary, you might not
be at your current old age. You might have died decades ago or even
at birth.

### - antibiotics have almost destroyed our natural immune system!

they saved a few lives that's true, so seemed really good! but they've
killed everyone else??

superbugs! that's what antibiotics have directly created! we 'devolved'
and the bugs evolved???

fucked that right up then didn't we lol! we sooo clever! (not!)

basically (and in a nutshell): for every one real problem science has ever >solved it's actually created 10 more even more serious problems in the >process that will all have to be solved later because it's currently
beyond our ability to do so!

you still think science is a friend don't you! even while it's stabbing us >right in the back??

kneel, bow, pray! to the holy god of science???

riiiight... some saviour that turned out to be!

What insane rubbish. You need to read a bit more before you gush at
the gums.

You are an ungrateful son of a bitch and I wonder who puts up with
your nonsense in the real world, if you ever get out of your council
flat that is.

### - you GOTTA say that haven't you? 'coz if i'm right you're fucked! :)

"a man returns to his folly as a dog returns to its own vomit" --whomever
lol :)

go figure you old dog you :)

But you are an ingrate. Think about it.

How ironic.

### - yes how ironic! how ironic you joke about an ultimately serious
problem and yet don't realise just how wrong you are in taking it all as >>> being a joke?? ironic indeed!

Look, sooner or later our species will die off. Either through
supplanting by the next evolutionary step, some global geophysical or
astronomical catastrophe, plague, or simple wearing out of our
chromosomes. But we won't do it by war or destroying the environment
- both we and life in general are too resilient.

### - but we've ALREADY destroyed 2 fucking THIRDS of the flora & fauna ON >this planet???

2/3s!!! just... gone!?

gone forever!

so sooner rather than later me old chum! (and we haven't even 'included'
war yet LOL)

Nonsense. Just the larger animals and they die off every million or
so years in any case. Most of the biomass is foliage and most of that
is still around. You can still fly over the Brazilian jungle for a
couple of days without seeing any habitation whatsoever. What about
the biomass in bacteria? Or in the oceans, of which we still know
less than the dark side of the moon?

Some animals will go, and that's to make way for us. Eventually,
we'll leave this planet and that will be the epitome of evolution on
Gaia - the chicks will have been kicked out of the nest. Perhaps that
is what happens when life evolves on other planets in this enormous
cosmos of trillions of galaxies each with billions of stars/suns and
perhaps infinite extent.

Open that mind of yours before it's too late.

Why worry? Get on with life. Oh I forgot, you don't have one - no
interests, no companions, no family, no future, no fucking hope.

### - "hope" is anathema to me heh; i observe + accordingly deal with >reality; as it is...

### - oh stfu about that lol! truth is you LIKE predator don'tcha!

Ever owned a cat? I've had scores of cats as pets, up to three at a
time. Yep, I like predators.

justifies ALL your shit??

I don't need justification. I'm usually correct.

### - riiiiight :)))

(you were 'wrong' about chris though hehehe...)

Big deal. I'm still of the view he needs to put more into his posts
here rather than just fly by night laconic terse verse. I know he can
do it, and he can't be so fucking busy in that twilight retirement of
his that he can't put a bit more effort into this posts.

But who am I to criticise?

the 'evolved' wont BE predators thang! won't have to be!

sapians are/were the predators! (we hunted & ate the thalls to
extinction
for example heh)

What's a thall?

### - short for Neanderthal...

Yes, they were short. So short for Neanderthall would be, what,
around 4 feet tall?

That's why we
have incisor and canine teeth, to tear and rip meat. Otherwise we'd
have flat fucking herbivore teeth.

### - we 'actually' descended from vegetarians originally you gonzo LOL
:))))

all those flat teeth? (laffing)

We're omnivores. That means we eat what's going. Part of what's
going is meat on the hoof. Until we discovered fire, we ate that part
of our diet raw. The incisors and canines allow us to rip and tear
the meat from bones. The molars allow us to masticate practically
anything.

"Omnivores

Omnivores, such as raccoons, opossums, bears, and humans, are animals
that consume both plant and animal material. Accordingly, omnivores
have dentition, skulls, and teeth suitable for handling a variety of
foods. Most omnivores have evolved different types of teeth, located
in different parts of their mouths. In such scenarios, each type of
tooth excels at handling a different type of food. For example, humans
use their incisors and canines for ripping and cutting, and their
molars and premolars for grinding. Biologists describe animals with
such teeth as having heterodont dentition. By contrast, the teeth of
homodont animals, such as iguanas, are all the same shape. As with
some carnivores that have teeth to aid in prey capture, some omnivores
have teeth that help them to obtain, rather than process, their food.
Rodents are famous for their long, continuously growing incisors,
which they use to chew through husks, shells and wood. This allows
them to access well-protected or difficult-to-access foods, such as
nuts. Although rodents are omnivores that occasionally eat insects and
scavenge carcasses, plant material makes up the bulk of their diet.
Their dentition reflects this as well: Rodents have strong molars, yet
lack canine teeth entirely. Instead, rodents have a gap between their
incisors and molars, termed a diastema."

https://www.mainstreetsmiles.com/dental-and-skull-anatomy-of-carnivores-herbivores-and-omnivores/

### - lol what verbal diarrhea you gots! orangutans are totally vegetarian >but still have huge canines?

plus why else do we have an appendix if we weren't vegetarian too at one >point?

Appendix is a storage area for gut bacteria. So, if we have dysentry
or some other disease which wipes out our gut bacteria, there is a
repository in the appendix from which our gut flora and fauna can be re-established. Nothing to fucking do with eating plants you idiot.

Self educate pal, these are recent studies.

Notice you don't comment on reality or facts, you just waffle on in
your own little dream world. Delusions of aggrandizement and self
worth, propped up on a pedastal constructed of fantasy about how
inferior the rest of humanity is compared to you.

### - nah, you're the one doing all that; bragging about all your
millions
in the bank?

I don't have millions in the bank. I don't own any property other
than in what I live (I don't like on principle renting to those who
could never afford to live in their own house). I have enough to see
me out and importantly I DON"T FUCKING OWE MONEY TO ANYONE.

### - save that crap for your epitaph lol 'coz THAT'S all it's worth
and/or gonna getcha?? :)))

Nope. It's a great feeling. Believe me.

You are flat out stupid. I've made the point about not owing money to
anyone. Chris has stated more than one that "blessed be the child who
has no debt". The aim is not to amass a fortune (why?) but to ensure
you owe no one. I've acheived that aim.

### - and how many YEARS of your LIFE did you give-over to that??

well ya didn't need to lol, so you effectively 'wasted' ALL that time!

not very smart then huh! :)))

Shit I enjoyed it. Corner office on the 30th floor, young attractive
women working for me, power and reputation, plenty of money, expense
accounts, travel all over the place business class minimum, bank
priveliges, etc etc. What's NOT to like?

fat lot of use it'll be to ya when one day you go to get some out and
the
bank is fucking closed forever?

Ever heard of a safe deposit box? I don't believe in keeping
everything electronic. I like keeping at least half in negotiables.

### - and those deposit boxes are gonna remain open when all the banks are >shut huh?

riiiight...

plus defo NOT very smart! not smart at all lol :)

You've never had one. You don't know the procedure. They are
physical boxes behind the biggest vaults you have ever seen, bars and
generally in bank basements, bomb proof and open only to photo ID and
a dupllicate key. No one knows whats in them, except for the key
owner. Hi denom cash and gold, wills, papers, land titles - that sort
of thing. Oh yeah, never keep one of these in your own name. Find
someone you trust with your life (that's that hardest part).

What's not smart about that?

riiiight... (you're crazy to ever play their game and actually take it
for
real sport, they'll screw you in the end...)

So who is this "they" to whom you allude?

### - society of course! and all the good little slaves/drones (like you)
who belong to it!

what else! (laffing...) the same bunch of cunts who're destroying
everything!

am defo NOT part of them lol and glad of it! ;)

But you are, you take the welfare payments. You are more dug into the
fabric of society than I am. I'm an outlier. Government probably
doesn't even know I exist :)

They certainly know *you* exist, you outsider, you.

Well you've learnt one thing at least, as a Brit it's "arsehole" not
"asshole". Good work.

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