• Israel minister threatens Assad over Iranian attacks from Syria

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, May 07, 2018 19:30:09
    From: slider@anashram.org

    A minister in Israel's security cabinet says it could topple Syrian
    President Bashar al-Assad if he allows Iranian forces to attack Israel
    from Syria.

    Yuval Steinitz warned that if there was an attack, Mr Assad "must know
    that it is his end and the end of his regime".

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-44029391

    His comments came amid reports that Israeli authorities were preparing for missile strikes by Iran or its proxies.

    Iran has vowed to avenge recent air strikes on its military facilities in
    Syria that were attributed to Israel.

    Israel has neither confirmed nor denied carrying out the strikes, but it
    has said it will stop what it considers Iran's military "entrenchment" in Syria.

    Iran has backed President Assad throughout Syria's seven-year civil war, deploying hundreds of military advisers and thousands of militiamen to the country.

    In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Yedioth Ahronoth on Monday, Mr Steinitz said Israel had not intervened in the conflict so far despite Mr Assad's "crimes against us and against his people".

    But the energy minister warned: "If Assad allows Iran to turn Syria into a military base against us and attack us on Syrian soil, he must know that
    it is his end and the end of his regime and he will not remain ruler of
    Syria or president of Syria."

    BBC Middle East analyst Alan Johnston says the minister's warning is aimed
    at making clear that Israel would hold President Assad responsible for any Iranian strike from Syrian territory.

    The Israelis will hope that if the Syrian leader believes he may pay the ultimate price for such an attack, he will try to rein in his Iranian
    allies, our correspondent adds.

    Israel rarely acknowledges carrying out strikes, but in February it said
    it had hit a number of Iranian military targets in Syria, including the T4 airbase, following an incursion by an Iranian drone into Israel and the shooting down by Syrian air defences of an Israeli F16 fighter jet.

    Last month, Syria's military blamed Israel for another strike on the T4
    airbase that is reported to have killed 14 military personnel, including
    seven members of Iran's Republican Guards force.

    A number of Iranians were also said to have died in strikes on an Iranian-controlled base in northern Syria a week ago, which US officials
    said was carried out by Israeli warplanes.

    ### - well there it is then?

    "...the energy minister warned: "If Assad allows Iran to turn Syria into a military base against us and attack us on Syrian soil, he must know that
    it is his end and the end of his regime and he will not remain ruler of
    Syria or president of Syria."

    perforce russia might have very different ideas about that!

    riiight...

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  • From whitetrashhillbilly@1:229/2 to All on Monday, May 07, 2018 15:52:05
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    this don't look good. there might be
    some serious shit from this.
    use your talking skills men.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to whitetrashhillbilly on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 13:12:04
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    On Monday, May 7, 2018 at 3:52:06 PM UTC-7, whitetrashhillbilly wrote:
    this don't look good. there might be
    some serious shit from this.
    use your talking skills men.

    LOL.

    Well, as expected, Trump does the wrong thing,
    pulling the U.S. out of the Iranian nuclear agreement,
    further destabilizing the Middle East.

    Trump Withdraws U.S. From Iran Nuclear Deal
    http://tinyurl.com/yc7wrw2j

    And we know Bolton has long wanted "regime change" in Iran.
    And Israel is threatening war with Syria.
    So hold onto your butts.

    Excerpts:

    "President Trump declared on Tuesday that he was pulling out of
    the Iran nuclear deal, unraveling the signature foreign policy
    achievement of his predecessor, Barack Obama, and isolating
    the United States among its Western allies."

    Mr. Trump’s announcement, while long anticipated and widely
    telegraphed, plunges America’s relations with European allies
    into deep uncertainty. They have committed to staying in the deal,
    raising the prospect of a diplomatic and economic clash as the
    United States reimposes stringent sanctions on Iran.

    It also raises the prospect of increasing tensions with Russia
    and China, which also are parties to the agreement.

    In a joint statement, President Emmanuel Macron of France,
    Prime Minister Theresa May of Britain and Chancellor Angela Merkel
    of Germany urged Iran to “continue to meet its own obligations
    under the deal,” despite the American withdrawal.

    “We encourage Iran to show restraint in response to the decision
    by the U.S.,” the statement said. Separately, in a post on Twitter,
    Mr. Macron said the European allies “regret” Mr. Trump’s decision, adding, “The international regime against nuclear proliferation
    is at stake.”

    Mr. Obama called the withdrawal “so misguided.”

    The president’s own aides had already persuaded him three times
    not to dismantle the Iran deal.

    But Mr. Trump made clear that his patience with the deal had
    worn thin, and with a new, more hawkish set of advisers — led by
    Mr. Pompeo and the national security adviser, John R. Bolton —
    the president faced less internal resistance this time.

    The Europeans had already agreed to a significant compromise:
    to reimpose sanctions if there was a determination that the
    Iranians were within 12 months of producing a nuclear weapon.
    But officials said that still did not satisfy Mr. Trump,
    and the Europeans were not willing to go any farther.

    ***

    Fucking idiot Trump. :(

    .

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, May 08, 2018 17:23:02
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Obama's Statement on Trump's Pull Out:

    There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive
    Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.

    The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear
    program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for
    diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing
    a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

    That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA
    turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy,
    there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration
    to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major
    powers.

    Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.

    First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom,
    France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

    Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on
    that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the
    core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international
    monitoring; and
    eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict
    limitations on Iran’s nuclear program and achieved real results.

    Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International
    monitors also have access to
    Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

    Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So
    have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying
    Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions
    in the JCPOA do become less
    strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

    Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it
    was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to
    sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

    Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran
    or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an
    arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going
    to war to prevent it.

    In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our
    allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can
    best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

    .

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Wednesday, May 09, 2018 04:01:50
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 01:23:02 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Obama's Statement on Trump's Pull Out:

    There are few issues more important to the security of the United States
    than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even
    more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first
    place.

    The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by
    our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary
    of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with
    North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy
    with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a
    deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.

    That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that
    our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence
    professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes
    in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s
    major powers.

    Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates
    that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several
    facts about the JCPOA.

    First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and
    the Iranian government. After years of building an international
    coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the
    JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European
    Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

    Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build
    a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA
    was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could
    have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its
    centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international
    monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched
    uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran’s nuclear program and
    achieved real results.

    Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an
    arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

    Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view
    of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has
    continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the
    deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies,
    and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian
    compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining
    a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t
    happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal,
    so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

    Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with
    Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its
    neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior
    that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

    Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at
    risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake.
    Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a
    losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle
    East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It
    could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could
    be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living
    with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

    In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the
    years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I
    hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of
    strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best
    secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

    ### - is likely precisely 'why' he's doing it then! (trumpy i mean...)

    because it upsets sooo many peeps! IS highly controversial!

    + will have everyone talking/arguing/fighting about it!

    and then he's prolly gonna threaten to bomb 'em or something heh...

    or israel will while everyone's distracted hah!)

    gettin' tough on iran now there boss!

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Monday, May 14, 2018 13:12:15
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 04:01:50 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 01:23:02 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan ><david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Obama's Statement on Trump's Pull Out:

    There are few issues more important to the security of the United States
    than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even
    more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States
    negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first
    place.

    The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by
    our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary
    of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly
    rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what
    diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is
    precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with
    North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy
    with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a
    deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are
    pursuing with the North Koreans.

    That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the
    JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that
    our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence
    professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes
    in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the
    consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks
    eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s
    major powers.

    Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates
    that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several
    facts about the JCPOA.

    First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and
    the Iranian government. After years of building an international
    coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the
    JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European
    Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal,
    unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

    Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For >> decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the
    point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build
    a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA
    was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could
    have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its
    centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international
    monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched
    uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the >> JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran’s nuclear program and
    achieved real results.

    Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most
    far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an
    arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored.
    International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply
    chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this
    monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

    Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view
    of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has
    continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the
    deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies,
    and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian
    compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining
    a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive
    inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the
    provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t
    happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal,
    so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

    Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with
    Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior –
    including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its
    neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent
    Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior
    that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is
    unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – >> and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with >> the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

    Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at
    risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake.
    Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a
    losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle
    East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It
    could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with
    destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and
    trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the
    constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could >> be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living
    with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

    In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong,
    principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the
    years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our
    diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I
    hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of
    strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best
    secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

    ### - is likely precisely 'why' he's doing it then! (trumpy i mean...)

    because it upsets sooo many peeps! IS highly controversial!

    + will have everyone talking/arguing/fighting about it!

    and then he's prolly gonna threaten to bomb 'em or something heh...

    or israel will while everyone's distracted hah!)

    gettin' tough on iran now there boss!

    And Iran deserves to be gotten tough on. It's a fucking THEOCRACY
    Brian, don't forget the British citizen those mullah cunts put the hex
    on (Rushdie) illegally and immorally all those years ago. These rock
    apes imprison and torture their own citizens, hand homosexuals from
    cranes, behead and stone women who have sex outside of marriage, make
    women wear masks in public and have religious police to whip women who
    dare to wear what they want in public.

    Trump will sanction these cunts and starve their people to the extent
    that there will be a very good chance that the mullahs will be
    overthrown and Persians will once again be free.

    What Trump has done is clever and the next move is now up to the
    mullahs. Let's see if they dare to start to develop nuclear weapons -
    even the Russians won't condone that.

    Good work by the Donald!

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Monday, May 14, 2018 11:49:39
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Mon, 14 May 2018 06:12:15 +0100, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 04:01:50 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 01:23:02 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
    <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Obama's Statement on Trump's Pull Out:

    There are few issues more important to the security of the United
    States
    than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even
    more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States
    negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first
    place.

    The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by
    our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S.
    Secretary
    of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly >>> rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what
    diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is
    precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with
    North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy
    with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a
    deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are
    pursuing with the North Koreans.

    That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the >>> JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that >>> our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence
    professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes
    in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the
    consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks
    eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s
    major powers.

    Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates
    that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several
    facts about the JCPOA.

    First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration
    and
    the Iranian government. After years of building an international
    coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the
    JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European
    Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal,
    unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

    Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program.
    For
    decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching
    the
    point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build
    a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA
    was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could
    have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its
    centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international
    monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched
    uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure,
    the
    JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran’s nuclear program and
    achieved real results.

    Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most
    far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an
    arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored.
    International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply >>> chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this
    monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

    Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view
    of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has
    continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the
    deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies,
    and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian
    compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever
    obtaining
    a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive
    inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the
    provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t
    happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal,
    so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

    Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with
    Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – >>> including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its
    neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent >>> Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior
    that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is
    unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – >>> and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened
    with
    the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

    Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at
    risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake.
    Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a
    losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle
    East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It
    could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with
    destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and
    trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the
    constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we
    could
    be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living
    with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

    In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong,
    principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the
    years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our
    diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I
    hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of
    strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best
    secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

    ### - is likely precisely 'why' he's doing it then! (trumpy i mean...)

    because it upsets sooo many peeps! IS highly controversial!

    + will have everyone talking/arguing/fighting about it!

    and then he's prolly gonna threaten to bomb 'em or something heh...

    or israel will while everyone's distracted hah!)

    gettin' tough on iran now there boss!

    And Iran deserves to be gotten tough on. It's a fucking THEOCRACY
    Brian, don't forget the British citizen those mullah cunts put the hex
    on (Rushdie) illegally and immorally all those years ago. These rock
    apes imprison and torture their own citizens, hand homosexuals from
    cranes, behead and stone women who have sex outside of marriage, make
    women wear masks in public and have religious police to whip women who
    dare to wear what they want in public.

    ### - wooo they sooo different to us??

    be afraid, be very afraid! :)

    and ya don't like the russians either?

    so who ELSE is on your right-wing hit-lists then thang?

    not those peeps with the little slanty eyes too? AND no doubt the abbos??

    riiiight...

    russia, china AND iran folks!

    racism and bigotry at its worst!

    it's actually cunts like you that 'cause' all the wars!

    heh ;)



    Trump will sanction these cunts and starve their people to the extent
    that there will be a very good chance that the mullahs will be
    overthrown and Persians will once again be free.

    ### - free hah! just not to live how THEY wants to live huh...

    free to DO what WE tell you! free to DO what WE tell you!

    riiiight...

    that's some 'freedom' alright sport! :)




    What Trump has done is clever and the next move is now up to the
    mullahs. Let's see if they dare to start to develop nuclear weapons -
    even the Russians won't condone that.

    Good work by the Donald!

    ### - what he's DONE is a clear step to ww3 you fucking idiot!

    (obama went/leaned completely the 'other' way! think about it!)

    blind as a fuckin' bat that thang is heh :)

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Monday, May 21, 2018 12:11:53
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Mon, 14 May 2018 11:49:39 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 14 May 2018 06:12:15 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 04:01:50 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 01:23:02 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
    <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Obama's Statement on Trump's Pull Out:

    There are few issues more important to the security of the United
    States
    than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even >>>> more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States >>>> negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first >>>> place.

    The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by >>>> our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S.
    Secretary
    of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly >>>> rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what >>>> diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is >>>> precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with >>>> North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy
    with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a >>>> deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are
    pursuing with the North Koreans.

    That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the >>>> JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that >>>> our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence
    professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes >>>> in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the >>>> consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks >>>> eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s >>>> major powers.

    Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates >>>> that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several >>>> facts about the JCPOA.

    First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration
    and
    the Iranian government. After years of building an international
    coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the >>>> JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European
    Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, >>>> unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.

    Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. >>>> For
    decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching
    the
    point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build >>>> a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA >>>> was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could
    have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its
    centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international
    monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched
    uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, >>>> the
    JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran’s nuclear program and
    achieved real results.

    Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most
    far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an >>>> arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. >>>> International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply >>>> chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this >>>> monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

    Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view >>>> of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has
    continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the
    deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, >>>> and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian
    compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever
    obtaining
    a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive >>>> inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the
    provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t
    happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, >>>> so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

    Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with >>>> Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – >>>> including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its
    neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent >>>> Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior >>>> that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is
    unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – >>>> and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened
    with
    the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

    Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at >>>> risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake.
    Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a
    losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle >>>> East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It
    could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with
    destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and >>>> trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the
    constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we
    could
    be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living
    with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

    In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong,
    principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the
    years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our
    diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I
    hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of
    strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best
    secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

    ### - is likely precisely 'why' he's doing it then! (trumpy i mean...)

    because it upsets sooo many peeps! IS highly controversial!

    + will have everyone talking/arguing/fighting about it!

    and then he's prolly gonna threaten to bomb 'em or something heh...

    or israel will while everyone's distracted hah!)

    gettin' tough on iran now there boss!

    And Iran deserves to be gotten tough on. It's a fucking THEOCRACY
    Brian, don't forget the British citizen those mullah cunts put the hex
    on (Rushdie) illegally and immorally all those years ago. These rock
    apes imprison and torture their own citizens, hand homosexuals from
    cranes, behead and stone women who have sex outside of marriage, make
    women wear masks in public and have religious police to whip women who
    dare to wear what they want in public.

    ### - wooo they sooo different to us??

    What, we throw homosexuals off buildings and hang them? Nope. We
    marry them to each other and give them attendant legal rights. You're
    not very astute for a man with an avowed IQ of 160+...


    be afraid, be very afraid! :)

    Of what? Iran is half a world away from Australia, we have some of
    the most stringent immigration policies in the world (because a lot of
    people want to live here) and we're surrounded by two oceans, Indian
    and the Pacific - difficult for Iranians to swim here.

    Not afraid at all Brian.



    and ya don't like the russians either?

    Apart from one I fucked in Queensland before I got married, I don't
    like them much. Too brutish for my tasted :)



    so who ELSE is on your right-wing hit-lists then thang?

    No one really. I enjoy life and I like others to enjoy life too.


    not those peeps with the little slanty eyes too? AND no doubt the abbos??

    Chinese are our largest trading partner, they buy all our iron ore and
    most of my overseas holidays have been to Asian countries in the last
    20 years - Vietnam, Hong Kong, Bali, Singapore, Laos, Thailand etc
    etc. Don't mind asians at all, I quite like most of them, they are
    very peaceful and INDUSTRIOUS people.

    Aboriginals? They haven't integrated very well with British
    descendants and they are still in the stone age, so no, I don't have
    close friends who are aboriginal. Haven't done a recent genocide on
    them though, as far as I can recall...



    riiiight...

    russia, china AND iran folks!

    racism and bigotry at its worst!

    it's actually cunts like you that 'cause' all the wars!

    Bwah ahah aha hahaha (gasp)...bwahahahahah...fuck moi...I start wars
    now, in addition to committing genocide on the aboriginals.

    Not too smart brian. Best spruce up that 160+ IQ of yours...



    heh ;)



    Trump will sanction these cunts and starve their people to the extent
    that there will be a very good chance that the mullahs will be
    overthrown and Persians will once again be free.

    ### - free hah! just not to live how THEY wants to live huh...

    That's exactly what I mean. Women can wear dresses and slacks again
    with no head gear and show their beauty to all and sundry, just like
    in the West. Free to study, to go to any school you like, to
    repudiate religion, to live a secular life.

    Freedom. Western style. The only freedom worthwhile.



    free to DO what WE tell you! free to DO what WE tell you!

    Oh fuck off. Nonsense.



    riiiight...

    that's some 'freedom' alright sport! :)

    So who tells you what to do? The Department for Work and Pensions?
    Come to think of it, you're not pension age yet (66 for you?) so you
    must be either on Disability Pension or Jobseekers Pension. If as I
    suspect it is the latter, then you are being told what to do ALL THE
    TIME by those in power, otherwise they will cut your pension off. And
    that will be the end of you.

    I doubt you have sufficient work history behind you to have
    accumulated a nest egg or your self funded superannuation. So, you're
    just being hypocritical again, doing what the Department of Work and
    Pensions tells you to do, all the time, yet railing against being told
    what to do here, in this group.

    Hypocrite.




    What Trump has done is clever and the next move is now up to the
    mullahs. Let's see if they dare to start to develop nuclear weapons -
    even the Russians won't condone that.

    Good work by the Donald!

    ### - what he's DONE is a clear step to ww3 you fucking idiot!

    (obama went/leaned completely the 'other' way! think about it!)

    Obama was a lazy cunt who couldn't get off his arse to resolve issues
    like DPRK and China and Russia - he kicked the can down the road. At
    least Trump is doing something about these matters.


    blind as a fuckin' bat that thang is heh :)

    Evidently I see a lot clearer than the man with the 160+ iQ. My IQ is
    nowhere near that, I bow to my master :)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Monday, May 21, 2018 11:19:16
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Mon, 21 May 2018 05:11:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Mon, 14 May 2018 11:49:39 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    On Mon, 14 May 2018 06:12:15 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
    <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 04:01:50 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    On Wed, 09 May 2018 01:23:02 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
    <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    Obama's Statement on Trump's Pull Out:

    There are few issues more important to the security of the United
    States
    than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for
    even
    more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States >>>>> negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the
    first
    place.

    The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by >>>>> our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S.
    Secretary
    of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly >>>>> rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what >>>>> diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is >>>>> precisely what the United States should be working to put in place
    with
    North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy >>>>> with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks
    losing a
    deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are >>>>> pursuing with the North Koreans.

    That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from >>>>> the
    JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement >>>>> that
    our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence
    professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be
    changes
    in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But
    the
    consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to
    risks
    eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s >>>>> major powers.

    Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially
    debates
    that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several >>>>> facts about the JCPOA.

    First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration >>>>> and
    the Iranian government. After years of building an international
    coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached
    the
    JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European >>>>> Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control
    deal,
    unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution. >>>>>
    Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. >>>>> For
    decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching >>>>> the
    point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to
    build
    a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the
    JCPOA
    was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could >>>>> have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its
    centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international
    monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched
    uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, >>>>> the
    JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran’s nuclear program and >>>>> achieved real results.

    Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most >>>>> far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in
    an
    arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. >>>>> International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear
    supply
    chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA,
    this
    monitoring and inspections regime would go away.

    Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the
    view
    of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has
    continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the >>>>> deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest
    allies,
    and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian
    compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

    Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever
    obtaining
    a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and
    intrusive
    inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the >>>>> provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t >>>>> happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the
    deal,
    so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.

    Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems
    with
    Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior >>>>> –
    including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its
    neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we
    prevent
    Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian
    behavior
    that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is
    unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior >>>>> –
    and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened >>>>> with
    the JCPOA, and weakened without it.

    Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA >>>>> at
    risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. >>>>> Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a >>>>> losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the
    Middle
    East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It >>>>> could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with >>>>> destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and >>>>> trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the
    constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we >>>>> could
    be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living >>>>> with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.

    In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, >>>>> principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the >>>>> years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our >>>>> diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I >>>>> hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of
    strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best >>>>> secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.

    ### - is likely precisely 'why' he's doing it then! (trumpy i mean...) >>>>
    because it upsets sooo many peeps! IS highly controversial!

    + will have everyone talking/arguing/fighting about it!

    and then he's prolly gonna threaten to bomb 'em or something heh...

    or israel will while everyone's distracted hah!)

    gettin' tough on iran now there boss!

    And Iran deserves to be gotten tough on. It's a fucking THEOCRACY
    Brian, don't forget the British citizen those mullah cunts put the hex
    on (Rushdie) illegally and immorally all those years ago. These rock
    apes imprison and torture their own citizens, hand homosexuals from
    cranes, behead and stone women who have sex outside of marriage, make
    women wear masks in public and have religious police to whip women who
    dare to wear what they want in public.

    ### - wooo they sooo different to us??

    What, we throw homosexuals off buildings and hang them?

    ### - metaphorically speaking yes! just ask oscar wilde??

    (2 years of hard labour destroyed him and he died not long after being released)

    but not any more, now we simply stigmatise 'em instead lol :)))



    Nope. We
    marry them to each other and give them attendant legal rights.

    ### - lol :)))



    be afraid, be very afraid! :)

    Of what? Iran is half a world away from Australia, we have some of
    the most stringent immigration policies in the world (because a lot of
    people want to live here) and we're surrounded by two oceans, Indian
    and the Pacific - difficult for Iranians to swim here.

    Not afraid at all Brian.

    ### - well we've ALL seen the movie 'on the beach' haven't we?

    and yes oz was the last to go, but go it still went! (go figure!)



    and ya don't like the russians either?

    Apart from one I fucked in Queensland before I got married, I don't
    like them much. Too brutish for my tasted :)

    ### - says the guy who proudly smashed someone's face in & put them in
    hospital and then boasted about it??

    yeah riiiiight.... :)



    so who ELSE is on your right-wing hit-lists then thang?

    No one really. I enjoy life and I like others to enjoy life too.

    ### - sooo then... it's just the russians, the jews, the blacks, the
    muslims ('coz they don't dress right heh...) that you'll admit to eh?

    riiiiight... (no need to be so coy thang, we know what the right-wing represents heh :)))



    not those peeps with the little slanty eyes too? AND no doubt the
    abbos??

    Chinese are our largest trading partner, they buy all our iron ore and
    most of my overseas holidays have been to Asian countries in the last
    20 years - Vietnam, Hong Kong, Bali, Singapore, Laos, Thailand etc
    etc. Don't mind asians at all, I quite like most of them, they are
    very peaceful and INDUSTRIOUS people.

    Aboriginals? They haven't integrated very well with British
    descendants and they are still in the stone age, so no, I don't have
    close friends who are aboriginal. Haven't done a recent genocide on
    them though, as far as I can recall...

    ### - you's haven't done it 'again' ya mean?? 'coz ya's already did it!

    what was DONE to those people was incredibly wicked! was defo a crime
    against humanity!

    smile, on the 200-year anniversary of invasion their then chief came all
    the way to the uk and planted a tribal flag on the british shore and
    claimed the uk to be now theirs heh, and then immediately gave it back to
    us, adding that they also forgive us for our ignorance and past crimes
    against them heh (i liked that!) and THEY'RE the peeps from the stone-age
    you look down on???

    jeeze...



    riiiight...

    russia, china AND iran folks!

    racism and bigotry at its worst!

    it's actually cunts like you that 'cause' all the wars!

    Bwah ahah aha hahaha (gasp)...bwahahahahah...fuck moi...I start wars
    now, in addition to committing genocide on the aboriginals.

    ### - not you personally ya dope, but then ya haven't done much (if
    anything) personally to redress that balance either?? (haha you nearly had
    a fit when once i suggested taking $500 and giving it to the first
    aborigine you encountered?)

    no you don't 'start' wars... you merely perpetuate them :)




    Trump will sanction these cunts and starve their people to the extent
    that there will be a very good chance that the mullahs will be
    overthrown and Persians will once again be free.

    ### - free hah! just not to live how THEY wants to live huh...

    That's exactly what I mean. Women can wear dresses and slacks again
    with no head gear and show their beauty to all and sundry, just like
    in the West. Free to study, to go to any school you like, to
    repudiate religion, to live a secular life.

    Freedom. Western style. The only freedom worthwhile.

    ### - straight out of the american declaration or summat no? (someone will correct me here as to where abe precisely stated that 'their' reasoning is
    the best of all possible alternatives + basically screwed the rest in the process heh...)



    free to DO what WE tell you! free to DO what WE tell you!

    Oh fuck off. Nonsense.

    ### - classic bill hicks heh...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7-_j1N11QM

    you should study him, as he will defo fill-in the 10,000 blanks you still
    gots in your understanding history lol, and covers nearly everything :)





    What Trump has done is clever and the next move is now up to the
    mullahs. Let's see if they dare to start to develop nuclear weapons -
    even the Russians won't condone that.

    Good work by the Donald!

    ### - what he's DONE is a clear step to ww3 you fucking idiot!

    (obama went/leaned completely the 'other' way! think about it!)

    Obama was a lazy cunt who couldn't get off his arse to resolve issues
    like DPRK and China and Russia - he kicked the can down the road. At
    least Trump is doing something about these matters.

    ### - sieg heil! sieg fucking heil! let's all do some marching up & down?
    :)

    yeah he's starting fucking ww3 that's what HE'S doing about it!

    (fyi obama did the same intelligent thing as clinton in that respect: he 'delayed' rushing to war! whereas bush & dickhead are doing the opposite!
    go figure where all your right-wing shit is leading us all to now huh...)

    you don't know shit thang + cover-over your ignorance with soundbites
    heh...

    very smart! (not...) heh :)

    don'tcha know/realise YET that the right-wing are all totally fucking... insane??

    plus does that then mean you're also insane too by definition?

    maybe! but only because you *don't* question it :)

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