Missile strikes overnight in central Syria killed at least 26 pro-regime >fighters, most of them Iranians, a monitor said Monday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missiles struck a
military base in the province of Hama late Sunday, in an assault it said
bore the hallmarks of an Israeli operation.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/30/iranians-killed-suspected-israeli-strike-syria/
"At least 26 fighters were killed, including four Syrians," the monitor
said, adding that the main target of the missile strike was the base of
the regime's 47th Brigade.
"The others are foreign fighters, a vast majority of them Iranians," said >Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the Britain-based war monitor.
"Given the nature of the target, it is likely to have been an Israeli >strike," he said, adding that strikes also hit an air base in nearby
Aleppo province where surface-to-surface missiles were stored.
Syrian state media late Sunday had denounced a "fresh aggression"
following reported raids by "enemy missiles".
Israeli Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz told army radio on Monday
morning that he was "not aware" of the latest strikes.
But, he said, "all the violence and instability in Syria is the result of >Iran's attempts to establish a military presence there. Israel will not
allow the opening of a northern front in Syria."
The latest strikes came amid heightened tensions in Syria after Damascus
and its ally Iran accused Israel on April 9 of conducting deadly strikes >against a military base in the centre of the country.
At least 14 soldiers, including seven Iranians, were killed in the strike
on a military base in Homs province.
Days later, on April 14, the United States, France and Britain bombarded >several Syrian regime military positions in response to a suspected
chemical attack on the rebel stronghold of Douma which killed dozens, >according to rescue services.
Syria remains technically at war with neighbouring Israel, which is
concerned at the growing presence of Iranian forces and those of Tehran's >Lebanese ally Hezbollah on Syrian territory.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed in an interview Thursday
to strike at any attempt by Iran to establish a "military foothold" in
Syria.
"If they attack Tel Aviv, we'll strike Tehran," he told the
Arabic-language Elaph news website.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who met with Israeli Prime Minister >Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday in Tel Aviv, lashed out at Iran's "ambition
to dominate the Middle East".
### - here we go again? both the US & israel feel totally justified at >hitting iran, but if they hit back (or ever just defend themselves) then >*they're* the monsters who deserve annihilation? as apparently is anyone
else (including russia) who defends them??
they (iran/syria/russia) ain't gonna just sit back 'forever' and just LET
all this continue as it threatens their 'own' national security!
(am thinking israel is just 'itching' to take out iran and will likely do
so fairly soon with US & international backing to boot? plus who knows >what'll happen after that??)
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:20:12 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:
Missile strikes overnight in central Syria killed at least 26 pro-regime
fighters, most of them Iranians, a monitor said Monday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missiles struck a
military base in the province of Hama late Sunday, in an assault it said
bore the hallmarks of an Israeli operation.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/30/iranians-killed-suspected-israeli-strike-syria/
"At least 26 fighters were killed, including four Syrians," the monitor
said, adding that the main target of the missile strike was the base of
the regime's 47th Brigade.
"The others are foreign fighters, a vast majority of them Iranians,"
said
Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the Britain-based war monitor.
"Given the nature of the target, it is likely to have been an Israeli
strike," he said, adding that strikes also hit an air base in nearby
Aleppo province where surface-to-surface missiles were stored.
Syrian state media late Sunday had denounced a "fresh aggression"
following reported raids by "enemy missiles".
Israeli Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz told army radio on Monday
morning that he was "not aware" of the latest strikes.
But, he said, "all the violence and instability in Syria is the result
of
Iran's attempts to establish a military presence there. Israel will not
allow the opening of a northern front in Syria."
The latest strikes came amid heightened tensions in Syria after Damascus
and its ally Iran accused Israel on April 9 of conducting deadly strikes
against a military base in the centre of the country.
At least 14 soldiers, including seven Iranians, were killed in the
strike
on a military base in Homs province.
Days later, on April 14, the United States, France and Britain bombarded
several Syrian regime military positions in response to a suspected
chemical attack on the rebel stronghold of Douma which killed dozens,
according to rescue services.
Syria remains technically at war with neighbouring Israel, which is
concerned at the growing presence of Iranian forces and those of
Tehran's
Lebanese ally Hezbollah on Syrian territory.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed in an interview
Thursday
to strike at any attempt by Iran to establish a "military foothold" in
Syria.
"If they attack Tel Aviv, we'll strike Tehran," he told the
Arabic-language Elaph news website.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who met with Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday in Tel Aviv, lashed out at Iran's "ambition
to dominate the Middle East".
### - here we go again? both the US & israel feel totally justified at
hitting iran, but if they hit back (or ever just defend themselves) then
*they're* the monsters who deserve annihilation? as apparently is anyone
else (including russia) who defends them??
they (iran/syria/russia) ain't gonna just sit back 'forever' and just
LET
all this continue as it threatens their 'own' national security!
(am thinking israel is just 'itching' to take out iran and will likely
do
so fairly soon with US & international backing to boot? plus who knows
what'll happen after that??)
Fucking A-grade nonsense. How the fuck would you know of Israel's intentions? You don't. You have no clue and less than most because
of your bias and subjectivity.
And how do you think Israel will "take out" Iran "fairly soon"? With
nukes, you know, those undeclared nuclear gravity bombs which everyone
except the Jews *know* they possess?
I think not. If they were so stupid as to attack Iran with nuclear
weapons, they would be internationally despised and perhaps the
Holocaust would be completed. I will tell you that *that* action by
Israel would be considered genocide and in a short while, there would
be no Jews left in the middle east.
If they don't use nuclear weapons, there is no possibility that Israel
with its small population could "take out" Iran. Fuck, you talk some nonsense.
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:13:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:20:12 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:
Missile strikes overnight in central Syria killed at least 26 pro-regime >>> fighters, most of them Iranians, a monitor said Monday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missiles struck a
military base in the province of Hama late Sunday, in an assault it said >>> bore the hallmarks of an Israeli operation.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/30/iranians-killed-suspected-israeli-strike-syria/
"At least 26 fighters were killed, including four Syrians," the monitor
said, adding that the main target of the missile strike was the base of
the regime's 47th Brigade.
"The others are foreign fighters, a vast majority of them Iranians,"
said
Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the Britain-based war monitor.
"Given the nature of the target, it is likely to have been an Israeli
strike," he said, adding that strikes also hit an air base in nearby
Aleppo province where surface-to-surface missiles were stored.
Syrian state media late Sunday had denounced a "fresh aggression"
following reported raids by "enemy missiles".
Israeli Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz told army radio on Monday
morning that he was "not aware" of the latest strikes.
But, he said, "all the violence and instability in Syria is the result
of
Iran's attempts to establish a military presence there. Israel will not
allow the opening of a northern front in Syria."
The latest strikes came amid heightened tensions in Syria after Damascus >>> and its ally Iran accused Israel on April 9 of conducting deadly strikes >>> against a military base in the centre of the country.
At least 14 soldiers, including seven Iranians, were killed in the
strike
on a military base in Homs province.
Days later, on April 14, the United States, France and Britain bombarded >>> several Syrian regime military positions in response to a suspected
chemical attack on the rebel stronghold of Douma which killed dozens,
according to rescue services.
Syria remains technically at war with neighbouring Israel, which is
concerned at the growing presence of Iranian forces and those of
Tehran's
Lebanese ally Hezbollah on Syrian territory.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed in an interview
Thursday
to strike at any attempt by Iran to establish a "military foothold" in
Syria.
"If they attack Tel Aviv, we'll strike Tehran," he told the
Arabic-language Elaph news website.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who met with Israeli Prime Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday in Tel Aviv, lashed out at Iran's "ambition >>> to dominate the Middle East".
### - here we go again? both the US & israel feel totally justified at
hitting iran, but if they hit back (or ever just defend themselves) then >>> *they're* the monsters who deserve annihilation? as apparently is anyone >>> else (including russia) who defends them??
they (iran/syria/russia) ain't gonna just sit back 'forever' and just
LET
all this continue as it threatens their 'own' national security!
(am thinking israel is just 'itching' to take out iran and will likely
do
so fairly soon with US & international backing to boot? plus who knows
what'll happen after that??)
Fucking A-grade nonsense. How the fuck would you know of Israel's
intentions? You don't. You have no clue and less than most because
of your bias and subjectivity.
### - we 'have' the 'history' of ALL the the things they've ever >said/threatened in the past re iran! we also have their current publicly >asserted 'red-lines' concerning same! we have their now 100+ attacks on >iranian installations over the last few years + their justifications of
same! twice recently for which iran has threatened to retaliate backed-up
by russian s300 systems that are already installed + up and running! do
the fucking math! :)
And how do you think Israel will "take out" Iran "fairly soon"? With
nukes, you know, those undeclared nuclear gravity bombs which everyone
except the Jews *know* they possess?
### - they don't need nukes to utterly flatten iran but have them if >required, problem is russia not 'letting' them do it!
I think not. If they were so stupid as to attack Iran with nuclear
weapons, they would be internationally despised and perhaps the
Holocaust would be completed. I will tell you that *that* action by
Israel would be considered genocide and in a short while, there would
be no Jews left in the middle east.
### - if iran does 'anything' to israel they'll kick the livin' shit outta >iran!
whatever it takes! plus we're right at that very juncture!
If they don't use nuclear weapons, there is no possibility that Israel
with its small population could "take out" Iran. Fuck, you talk some
nonsense.
### - do you know just 'how long' it's taken the jews to actually
acquire... israel??
well they ain't about to give it up now! okaaaay???
they'll DO whatever it takes to protect themselves!
WHATEVER it TAKES! got it??
(and... they're totally backed by the west anyway! like where do ya think >they GOT all those nukes from in the first place for christsakes!)
and then wake up! :)
On Mon, 07 May 2018 02:31:34 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:13:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:20:12 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:
Missile strikes overnight in central Syria killed at least 26
pro-regime
fighters, most of them Iranians, a monitor said Monday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missiles struck a
military base in the province of Hama late Sunday, in an assault it
said
bore the hallmarks of an Israeli operation.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/30/iranians-killed-suspected-israeli-strike-syria/
"At least 26 fighters were killed, including four Syrians," the
monitor
said, adding that the main target of the missile strike was the base
of
the regime's 47th Brigade.
"The others are foreign fighters, a vast majority of them Iranians,"
said
Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the Britain-based war monitor.
"Given the nature of the target, it is likely to have been an Israeli
strike," he said, adding that strikes also hit an air base in nearby
Aleppo province where surface-to-surface missiles were stored.
Syrian state media late Sunday had denounced a "fresh aggression"
following reported raids by "enemy missiles".
Israeli Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz told army radio on Monday
morning that he was "not aware" of the latest strikes.
But, he said, "all the violence and instability in Syria is the result >>>> of
Iran's attempts to establish a military presence there. Israel will
not
allow the opening of a northern front in Syria."
The latest strikes came amid heightened tensions in Syria after
Damascus
and its ally Iran accused Israel on April 9 of conducting deadly
strikes
against a military base in the centre of the country.
At least 14 soldiers, including seven Iranians, were killed in the
strike
on a military base in Homs province.
Days later, on April 14, the United States, France and Britain
bombarded
several Syrian regime military positions in response to a suspected
chemical attack on the rebel stronghold of Douma which killed dozens,
according to rescue services.
Syria remains technically at war with neighbouring Israel, which is
concerned at the growing presence of Iranian forces and those of
Tehran's
Lebanese ally Hezbollah on Syrian territory.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed in an interview
Thursday
to strike at any attempt by Iran to establish a "military foothold" in >>>> Syria.
"If they attack Tel Aviv, we'll strike Tehran," he told the
Arabic-language Elaph news website.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who met with Israeli Prime Minister >>>> Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday in Tel Aviv, lashed out at Iran's
"ambition
to dominate the Middle East".
### - here we go again? both the US & israel feel totally justified at >>>> hitting iran, but if they hit back (or ever just defend themselves)
then
*they're* the monsters who deserve annihilation? as apparently is
anyone
else (including russia) who defends them??
they (iran/syria/russia) ain't gonna just sit back 'forever' and just
LET
all this continue as it threatens their 'own' national security!
(am thinking israel is just 'itching' to take out iran and will likely >>>> do
so fairly soon with US & international backing to boot? plus who knows >>>> what'll happen after that??)
Fucking A-grade nonsense. How the fuck would you know of Israel's
intentions? You don't. You have no clue and less than most because
of your bias and subjectivity.
### - we 'have' the 'history' of ALL the the things they've ever
said/threatened in the past re iran! we also have their current publicly
asserted 'red-lines' concerning same! we have their now 100+ attacks on
iranian installations over the last few years + their justifications of
same! twice recently for which iran has threatened to retaliate
backed-up
by russian s300 systems that are already installed + up and running! do
the fucking math! :)
Netanyahu has major criminal issues concerning bribery and corruption
and it's possible he could trigger a war with Iran just to deflect the
probes (last I heard Netanyahu's wife was being questioned by
investigators). Have you factored that into your synthetic scenarios?
What about the alliance between Iran and Russia, not to mention Syria?
If Israel strikes Iran, Russia probably won't just hang on the
sidelines but who knows? What about the woeful "performance" of the
S300 systems when Trump struck Syria - those systems didn't even get
off the ground! There are so many variables that probably even the
NSA and CIA, who have fucking satellites at their disposal, don't know
all the potential wargame outcomes. Yet you come out with all this
bullshit predictions about imminent war, which you've been making now
for the last decade at least without one. single. accurate.
prediction.
And how do you think Israel will "take out" Iran "fairly soon"? With
nukes, you know, those undeclared nuclear gravity bombs which everyone
except the Jews *know* they possess?
### - they don't need nukes to utterly flatten iran but have them if
required, problem is russia not 'letting' them do it!
This is the thing. The Jews have nukes, probably in the region of 100
or so gravity bombs. They don't disclose. They don't agree to non-proliferation accords. Yet they are not treated the same as Iran
or DPRK. This is rank hypocrisy. And further these bombs are useless because if they were used in the middle east, say to kill a few
million Persians or Saudis, Israel would be eliminated, annihilated.
If the remaining arabs didn't do it, Russia would. They have no love
for Jews.
I think not. If they were so stupid as to attack Iran with nuclear
weapons, they would be internationally despised and perhaps the
Holocaust would be completed. I will tell you that *that* action by
Israel would be considered genocide and in a short while, there would
be no Jews left in the middle east.
### - if iran does 'anything' to israel they'll kick the livin' shit
outta
iran!
Who? The Israeli's? I doubt it. How the fuck do a few hundred
thousand Israeli's cross hostile Syria to get to Iran and then take on
a country of almost 90 million spread through some of the most
mountainous hostile territory in the world outside of Afghanistan?
They have to get there to kick their arses.
Or are you talking about just bombing Iran? That won't work either.
No war yet has been won with bombing. You need boots on the ground
and Iran is far too populous and distant from Israel for that. Not to mention Syria between the two...
whatever it takes! plus we're right at that very juncture!
No we're not. You're wrong as usual.
If they don't use nuclear weapons, there is no possibility that Israel
with its small population could "take out" Iran. Fuck, you talk some
nonsense.
### - do you know just 'how long' it's taken the jews to actually
acquire... israel??
They were given Israel, they didn't acquire it.
well they ain't about to give it up now! okaaaay???
they'll DO whatever it takes to protect themselves!
WHATEVER it TAKES! got it??
(and... they're totally backed by the west anyway! like where do ya
think
they GOT all those nukes from in the first place for christsakes!)
No they're not. The US is turning away from Israel and the country is despised in Russia and by most ME countries. Their most faithful ally
is probably Germany and we all know why *that* is :)
and then wake up! :)
Oh I'm fully awake and aware slider, only you're not. You need to
slip out of your delusional comfort zone and confront hard, cold
reality. It won't be nice but who said life would be, or is?
### - now they've actually started fighting i thought i'd better answer
this one heh :D
On Wed, 09 May 2018 12:27:34 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 02:31:34 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:13:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:20:12 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:
Missile strikes overnight in central Syria killed at least 26
pro-regime
fighters, most of them Iranians, a monitor said Monday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missiles struck a
military base in the province of Hama late Sunday, in an assault it
said
bore the hallmarks of an Israeli operation.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/30/iranians-killed-suspected-israeli-strike-syria/
"At least 26 fighters were killed, including four Syrians," the
monitor
said, adding that the main target of the missile strike was the base >>>>> of
the regime's 47th Brigade.
"The others are foreign fighters, a vast majority of them Iranians," >>>>> said
Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the Britain-based war monitor.
"Given the nature of the target, it is likely to have been an Israeli >>>>> strike," he said, adding that strikes also hit an air base in nearby >>>>> Aleppo province where surface-to-surface missiles were stored.
Syrian state media late Sunday had denounced a "fresh aggression"
following reported raids by "enemy missiles".
Israeli Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz told army radio on Monday >>>>> morning that he was "not aware" of the latest strikes.
But, he said, "all the violence and instability in Syria is the result >>>>> of
Iran's attempts to establish a military presence there. Israel will
not
allow the opening of a northern front in Syria."
The latest strikes came amid heightened tensions in Syria after
Damascus
and its ally Iran accused Israel on April 9 of conducting deadly
strikes
against a military base in the centre of the country.
At least 14 soldiers, including seven Iranians, were killed in the
strike
on a military base in Homs province.
Days later, on April 14, the United States, France and Britain
bombarded
several Syrian regime military positions in response to a suspected
chemical attack on the rebel stronghold of Douma which killed dozens, >>>>> according to rescue services.
Syria remains technically at war with neighbouring Israel, which is
concerned at the growing presence of Iranian forces and those of
Tehran's
Lebanese ally Hezbollah on Syrian territory.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed in an interview
Thursday
to strike at any attempt by Iran to establish a "military foothold" in >>>>> Syria.
"If they attack Tel Aviv, we'll strike Tehran," he told the
Arabic-language Elaph news website.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who met with Israeli Prime Minister >>>>> Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday in Tel Aviv, lashed out at Iran's
"ambition
to dominate the Middle East".
### - here we go again? both the US & israel feel totally justified at >>>>> hitting iran, but if they hit back (or ever just defend themselves)
then
*they're* the monsters who deserve annihilation? as apparently is
anyone
else (including russia) who defends them??
they (iran/syria/russia) ain't gonna just sit back 'forever' and just >>>>> LET
all this continue as it threatens their 'own' national security!
(am thinking israel is just 'itching' to take out iran and will likely >>>>> do
so fairly soon with US & international backing to boot? plus who knows >>>>> what'll happen after that??)
Fucking A-grade nonsense. How the fuck would you know of Israel's
intentions? You don't. You have no clue and less than most because
of your bias and subjectivity.
### - we 'have' the 'history' of ALL the the things they've ever
said/threatened in the past re iran! we also have their current publicly >>> asserted 'red-lines' concerning same! we have their now 100+ attacks on
iranian installations over the last few years + their justifications of
same! twice recently for which iran has threatened to retaliate
backed-up
by russian s300 systems that are already installed + up and running! do
the fucking math! :)
Netanyahu has major criminal issues concerning bribery and corruption
and it's possible he could trigger a war with Iran just to deflect the
probes (last I heard Netanyahu's wife was being questioned by
investigators). Have you factored that into your synthetic scenarios?
What about the alliance between Iran and Russia, not to mention Syria?
If Israel strikes Iran, Russia probably won't just hang on the
sidelines but who knows? What about the woeful "performance" of the
S300 systems when Trump struck Syria - those systems didn't even get
off the ground! There are so many variables that probably even the
NSA and CIA, who have fucking satellites at their disposal, don't know
all the potential wargame outcomes. Yet you come out with all this
bullshit predictions about imminent war, which you've been making now
for the last decade at least without one. single. accurate.
prediction.
### - it's impossible to make predictions with any accuracy, but >seeing/noticing something simmering/brewing (as it is + has been between >israel & iran currently) isn't particularly exceptional nor beyond >possibility... you just didn't wanna see it :)
And how do you think Israel will "take out" Iran "fairly soon"? With
nukes, you know, those undeclared nuclear gravity bombs which everyone >>>> except the Jews *know* they possess?
### - they don't need nukes to utterly flatten iran but have them if
required, problem is russia not 'letting' them do it!
This is the thing. The Jews have nukes, probably in the region of 100
or so gravity bombs. They don't disclose. They don't agree to
non-proliferation accords. Yet they are not treated the same as Iran
or DPRK. This is rank hypocrisy. And further these bombs are useless
because if they were used in the middle east, say to kill a few
million Persians or Saudis, Israel would be eliminated, annihilated.
If the remaining arabs didn't do it, Russia would. They have no love
for Jews.
### - who knows what will/could happen in detail eventually, suffice to
know it's going down right now! and that however it all plays out it wont
be good for any of us in the end because it's unlikely to remain only a
local affair once russia & the west start getting involved, as they >inevitably will?
I think not. If they were so stupid as to attack Iran with nuclear
weapons, they would be internationally despised and perhaps the
Holocaust would be completed. I will tell you that *that* action by
Israel would be considered genocide and in a short while, there would
be no Jews left in the middle east.
### - if iran does 'anything' to israel they'll kick the livin' shit
outta
iran!
Who? The Israeli's? I doubt it. How the fuck do a few hundred
thousand Israeli's cross hostile Syria to get to Iran and then take on
a country of almost 90 million spread through some of the most
mountainous hostile territory in the world outside of Afghanistan?
They have to get there to kick their arses.
Or are you talking about just bombing Iran? That won't work either.
No war yet has been won with bombing. You need boots on the ground
and Iran is far too populous and distant from Israel for that. Not to
mention Syria between the two...
### - well it's all going down right this minute sport! israel & iran ARE >hitting each other for real right now this minute, and the chances of it >stopping there is minimal...
they're only getting started for christsakes!
whatever it takes! plus we're right at that very juncture!
No we're not. You're wrong as usual.
### - well apparently WE are!
so israel is just gonna STOP now it's actually started in earnest???
riiiiiight... they didn't start this to NOT finish it!
one way or another they'll finish it alright! bank on it!
If they don't use nuclear weapons, there is no possibility that Israel >>>> with its small population could "take out" Iran. Fuck, you talk some
nonsense.
### - do you know just 'how long' it's taken the jews to actually
acquire... israel??
They were given Israel, they didn't acquire it.
### - duh they've been trying to acquire it for centuries!?
and they AIN'T gonna give it back now!!!
so... WHATEVER it TAKES! got it?
well they ain't about to give it up now! okaaaay???
they'll DO whatever it takes to protect themselves!
WHATEVER it TAKES! got it??
(and... they're totally backed by the west anyway! like where do ya
think
they GOT all those nukes from in the first place for christsakes!)
No they're not. The US is turning away from Israel and the country is
despised in Russia and by most ME countries. Their most faithful ally
is probably Germany and we all know why *that* is :)
### - we're ALL gonna get dragged into this eventually thang!
it's literally a powder keg that's been heating up for ages??
plus it doesn't really matter 'where' it starts it 'ends' with all of us!
and then wake up! :)
Oh I'm fully awake and aware slider, only you're not. You need to
slip out of your delusional comfort zone and confront hard, cold
reality. It won't be nice but who said life would be, or is?
### - shame i was sooo wrong about israel & iran then huh??
riiiight... :)
and 'coz now it's actually happening!!!
today! right now!
you awake yet??
not so sleepy-head/complacent now huh :)
On Thu, 10 May 2018 03:58:31 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
### - now they've actually started fighting i thought i'd better answer
this one heh :D
On Wed, 09 May 2018 12:27:34 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 02:31:34 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:13:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:20:12 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:
Missile strikes overnight in central Syria killed at least 26
pro-regime
fighters, most of them Iranians, a monitor said Monday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missiles struck a >>>>>> military base in the province of Hama late Sunday, in an assault it >>>>>> said
bore the hallmarks of an Israeli operation.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/30/iranians-killed-suspected-israeli-strike-syria/
"At least 26 fighters were killed, including four Syrians," the
monitor
said, adding that the main target of the missile strike was the base >>>>>> of
the regime's 47th Brigade.
"The others are foreign fighters, a vast majority of them Iranians," >>>>>> said
Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the Britain-based war monitor.
"Given the nature of the target, it is likely to have been an
Israeli
strike," he said, adding that strikes also hit an air base in nearby >>>>>> Aleppo province where surface-to-surface missiles were stored.
Syrian state media late Sunday had denounced a "fresh aggression"
following reported raids by "enemy missiles".
Israeli Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz told army radio on Monday >>>>>> morning that he was "not aware" of the latest strikes.
But, he said, "all the violence and instability in Syria is the
result
of
Iran's attempts to establish a military presence there. Israel will >>>>>> not
allow the opening of a northern front in Syria."
The latest strikes came amid heightened tensions in Syria after
Damascus
and its ally Iran accused Israel on April 9 of conducting deadly
strikes
against a military base in the centre of the country.
At least 14 soldiers, including seven Iranians, were killed in the >>>>>> strike
on a military base in Homs province.
Days later, on April 14, the United States, France and Britain
bombarded
several Syrian regime military positions in response to a suspected >>>>>> chemical attack on the rebel stronghold of Douma which killed
dozens,
according to rescue services.
Syria remains technically at war with neighbouring Israel, which is >>>>>> concerned at the growing presence of Iranian forces and those of
Tehran's
Lebanese ally Hezbollah on Syrian territory.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed in an interview
Thursday
to strike at any attempt by Iran to establish a "military foothold" >>>>>> in
Syria.
"If they attack Tel Aviv, we'll strike Tehran," he told the
Arabic-language Elaph news website.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who met with Israeli Prime
Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday in Tel Aviv, lashed out at Iran's
"ambition
to dominate the Middle East".
### - here we go again? both the US & israel feel totally justified >>>>>> at
hitting iran, but if they hit back (or ever just defend themselves) >>>>>> then
*they're* the monsters who deserve annihilation? as apparently is
anyone
else (including russia) who defends them??
they (iran/syria/russia) ain't gonna just sit back 'forever' and
just
LET
all this continue as it threatens their 'own' national security!
(am thinking israel is just 'itching' to take out iran and will
likely
do
so fairly soon with US & international backing to boot? plus who
knows
what'll happen after that??)
Fucking A-grade nonsense. How the fuck would you know of Israel's
intentions? You don't. You have no clue and less than most because >>>>> of your bias and subjectivity.
### - we 'have' the 'history' of ALL the the things they've ever
said/threatened in the past re iran! we also have their current
publicly
asserted 'red-lines' concerning same! we have their now 100+ attacks
on
iranian installations over the last few years + their justifications
of
same! twice recently for which iran has threatened to retaliate
backed-up
by russian s300 systems that are already installed + up and running!
do
the fucking math! :)
Netanyahu has major criminal issues concerning bribery and corruption
and it's possible he could trigger a war with Iran just to deflect the
probes (last I heard Netanyahu's wife was being questioned by
investigators). Have you factored that into your synthetic scenarios?
What about the alliance between Iran and Russia, not to mention Syria?
If Israel strikes Iran, Russia probably won't just hang on the
sidelines but who knows? What about the woeful "performance" of the
S300 systems when Trump struck Syria - those systems didn't even get
off the ground! There are so many variables that probably even the
NSA and CIA, who have fucking satellites at their disposal, don't know
all the potential wargame outcomes. Yet you come out with all this
bullshit predictions about imminent war, which you've been making now
for the last decade at least without one. single. accurate.
prediction.
### - it's impossible to make predictions with any accuracy, but
seeing/noticing something simmering/brewing (as it is + has been between
israel & iran currently) isn't particularly exceptional nor beyond
possibility... you just didn't wanna see it :)
See what?
I just observed that you make concrete predictions all the
time which never eventuate because you don't get the fact that the
world does not want war and does not want to use nukes.
Bad for
business. All those Russian oligarchs living in London might lose
their money if they are vaporised by a Russian Satan detonating over
Big Ben. Same for the oil companies operating in Russia.
It just won't happen. You'll go to your grave and the world will
still be here, just more advanced.
And how do you think Israel will "take out" Iran "fairly soon"? With >>>>> nukes, you know, those undeclared nuclear gravity bombs which
everyone
except the Jews *know* they possess?
### - they don't need nukes to utterly flatten iran but have them if
required, problem is russia not 'letting' them do it!
Russia let Israel strike Syria and kill Iranians. Russia was warned
by Israel to move its assets and it did. There has been no blowback
from Russia nor will there be.
This is the thing. The Jews have nukes, probably in the region of 100
or so gravity bombs. They don't disclose. They don't agree to
non-proliferation accords. Yet they are not treated the same as Iran
or DPRK. This is rank hypocrisy. And further these bombs are useless
because if they were used in the middle east, say to kill a few
million Persians or Saudis, Israel would be eliminated, annihilated.
If the remaining arabs didn't do it, Russia would. They have no love
for Jews.
### - who knows what will/could happen in detail eventually, suffice to
know it's going down right now! and that however it all plays out it
wont
be good for any of us in the end because it's unlikely to remain only a
local affair once russia & the west start getting involved, as they
inevitably will?
Well I'm writing this almost a week after the event and nothing has
happened. It's gone away. You're wrong again.
I think not. If they were so stupid as to attack Iran with nuclear
weapons, they would be internationally despised and perhaps the
Holocaust would be completed. I will tell you that *that* action by >>>>> Israel would be considered genocide and in a short while, there would >>>>> be no Jews left in the middle east.
### - if iran does 'anything' to israel they'll kick the livin' shit
outta
iran!
Who? The Israeli's? I doubt it. How the fuck do a few hundred
thousand Israeli's cross hostile Syria to get to Iran and then take on
a country of almost 90 million spread through some of the most
mountainous hostile territory in the world outside of Afghanistan?
They have to get there to kick their arses.
Or are you talking about just bombing Iran? That won't work either.
No war yet has been won with bombing. You need boots on the ground
and Iran is far too populous and distant from Israel for that. Not to
mention Syria between the two...
### - well it's all going down right this minute sport! israel & iran
ARE
hitting each other for real right now this minute, and the chances of it
stopping there is minimal...
Lol! It did stop. That "minimal chance" of it stopping turned out to
be an overwhelming probability.
You're wrong again.
they're only getting started for christsakes!
It stopped. It never really started. Makes you out to be a bit like
chicken little. That sky is falling...
whatever it takes! plus we're right at that very juncture!
No we're not. You're wrong as usual.
### - well apparently WE are!
so israel is just gonna STOP now it's actually started in earnest???
Yep, and they did stop.
riiiiiight... they didn't start this to NOT finish it!
But it *is* finished.
one way or another they'll finish it alright! bank on it!
Still waiting.
If they don't use nuclear weapons, there is no possibility that
Israel
with its small population could "take out" Iran. Fuck, you talk some >>>>> nonsense.
### - do you know just 'how long' it's taken the jews to actually
acquire... israel??
They were given Israel, they didn't acquire it.
### - duh they've been trying to acquire it for centuries!?
and they AIN'T gonna give it back now!!!
so... WHATEVER it TAKES! got it?
Wrong.
well they ain't about to give it up now! okaaaay???
they'll DO whatever it takes to protect themselves!
WHATEVER it TAKES! got it??
(and... they're totally backed by the west anyway! like where do ya
think
they GOT all those nukes from in the first place for christsakes!)
No they're not. The US is turning away from Israel and the country is
despised in Russia and by most ME countries. Their most faithful ally
is probably Germany and we all know why *that* is :)
### - we're ALL gonna get dragged into this eventually thang!
it's literally a powder keg that's been heating up for ages??
plus it doesn't really matter 'where' it starts it 'ends' with all of
us!
You don't seem to understand. WW3 will not start, it's simply bad for business. WW2 started a thing called "globalisation" and that
particular steamroller has never really stopped. There is no part of
the world now which is separate from the rest, it's all interconnected economically. War has always been good for business, but now it's bad
for business.
This is fact. Putin, Trump, your May, etc all realise this.
Scenes of Violence at the Gaza Border:
https://nyti.ms/2Ihnu2L
Israeli Troops Kill Dozens of Palestinian Protesters
as U.S. Embassy Opens in Jerusalem:
http://tinyurl.com/y9zjsjkz
*Tens of thousands* of Palestinians took part in the Gaza protests,
which spread on Monday to the West Bank, where the focus was on
opposition to the embassy move.
Many Israelis see the relocation of the embassy as simply
acknowledging that Jerusalem is Israel’s capital. But
Palestinians, who hope to see the eastern part of Jerusalem
become the capital of a Palestinian state, see the move as an
abdication of any vestige of American impartiality in
determining the region’s future.
***
A BIGGER clash is planned for tomorrow...
On Mon, 14 May 2018 05:07:25 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 10 May 2018 03:58:31 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
### - now they've actually started fighting i thought i'd better answer
this one heh :D
On Wed, 09 May 2018 12:27:34 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 02:31:34 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Mon, 07 May 2018 00:13:53 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 10:20:12 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.org>
wrote:
Missile strikes overnight in central Syria killed at least 26
pro-regime
fighters, most of them Iranians, a monitor said Monday.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said the missiles struck a >>>>>>> military base in the province of Hama late Sunday, in an assault it >>>>>>> said
bore the hallmarks of an Israeli operation.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/30/iranians-killed-suspected-israeli-strike-syria/
"At least 26 fighters were killed, including four Syrians," the
monitor
said, adding that the main target of the missile strike was the base >>>>>>> of
the regime's 47th Brigade.
"The others are foreign fighters, a vast majority of them Iranians," >>>>>>> said
Rami Abdel Rahman, the head of the Britain-based war monitor.
"Given the nature of the target, it is likely to have been an
Israeli
strike," he said, adding that strikes also hit an air base in nearby >>>>>>> Aleppo province where surface-to-surface missiles were stored.
Syrian state media late Sunday had denounced a "fresh aggression" >>>>>>> following reported raids by "enemy missiles".
Israeli Intelligence Minister Yisrael Katz told army radio on Monday >>>>>>> morning that he was "not aware" of the latest strikes.
But, he said, "all the violence and instability in Syria is the
result
of
Iran's attempts to establish a military presence there. Israel will >>>>>>> not
allow the opening of a northern front in Syria."
The latest strikes came amid heightened tensions in Syria after
Damascus
and its ally Iran accused Israel on April 9 of conducting deadly >>>>>>> strikes
against a military base in the centre of the country.
At least 14 soldiers, including seven Iranians, were killed in the >>>>>>> strike
on a military base in Homs province.
Days later, on April 14, the United States, France and Britain
bombarded
several Syrian regime military positions in response to a suspected >>>>>>> chemical attack on the rebel stronghold of Douma which killed
dozens,
according to rescue services.
Syria remains technically at war with neighbouring Israel, which is >>>>>>> concerned at the growing presence of Iranian forces and those of >>>>>>> Tehran's
Lebanese ally Hezbollah on Syrian territory.
Israeli Defence Minister Avigdor Lieberman vowed in an interview >>>>>>> Thursday
to strike at any attempt by Iran to establish a "military foothold" >>>>>>> in
Syria.
"If they attack Tel Aviv, we'll strike Tehran," he told the
Arabic-language Elaph news website.
US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, who met with Israeli Prime
Minister
Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday in Tel Aviv, lashed out at Iran's
"ambition
to dominate the Middle East".
### - here we go again? both the US & israel feel totally justified >>>>>>> at
hitting iran, but if they hit back (or ever just defend themselves) >>>>>>> then
*they're* the monsters who deserve annihilation? as apparently is >>>>>>> anyone
else (including russia) who defends them??
they (iran/syria/russia) ain't gonna just sit back 'forever' and >>>>>>> just
LET
all this continue as it threatens their 'own' national security! >>>>>>>
(am thinking israel is just 'itching' to take out iran and will
likely
do
so fairly soon with US & international backing to boot? plus who >>>>>>> knows
what'll happen after that??)
Fucking A-grade nonsense. How the fuck would you know of Israel's >>>>>> intentions? You don't. You have no clue and less than most because >>>>>> of your bias and subjectivity.
### - we 'have' the 'history' of ALL the the things they've ever
said/threatened in the past re iran! we also have their current
publicly
asserted 'red-lines' concerning same! we have their now 100+ attacks >>>>> on
iranian installations over the last few years + their justifications >>>>> of
same! twice recently for which iran has threatened to retaliate
backed-up
by russian s300 systems that are already installed + up and running! >>>>> do
the fucking math! :)
Netanyahu has major criminal issues concerning bribery and corruption
and it's possible he could trigger a war with Iran just to deflect the >>>> probes (last I heard Netanyahu's wife was being questioned by
investigators). Have you factored that into your synthetic scenarios? >>>> What about the alliance between Iran and Russia, not to mention Syria? >>>> If Israel strikes Iran, Russia probably won't just hang on the
sidelines but who knows? What about the woeful "performance" of the
S300 systems when Trump struck Syria - those systems didn't even get
off the ground! There are so many variables that probably even the
NSA and CIA, who have fucking satellites at their disposal, don't know >>>> all the potential wargame outcomes. Yet you come out with all this
bullshit predictions about imminent war, which you've been making now
for the last decade at least without one. single. accurate.
prediction.
### - it's impossible to make predictions with any accuracy, but
seeing/noticing something simmering/brewing (as it is + has been between >>> israel & iran currently) isn't particularly exceptional nor beyond
possibility... you just didn't wanna see it :)
See what?
### - iran & israel kickin' the snot outta' each other silly! :)
or are ya blind??
I just observed that you make concrete predictions all the
time which never eventuate because you don't get the fact that the
world does not want war and does not want to use nukes.
### - not so much 'predictions' as warnings?
and no they DON'T want it! but haven't you noticed 'yet' just how MUCH
shit peeps DON'T want but still HAVE to mostly put up with?? (wallyworld >rools! heh)
Bad for
business. All those Russian oligarchs living in London might lose
their money if they are vaporised by a Russian Satan detonating over
Big Ben. Same for the oil companies operating in Russia.
### - haven't you seen that shite movie 2012? rich russians 'buying' their >tickets to freedom long in advance?? (oh but then of course they wouldn't >ever be smart enough to do summat like that huh, half-rich baldy bastards
in oz can do it on a pittance but not the russian super rich?? riiiight...)
It just won't happen. You'll go to your grave and the world will
still be here, just more advanced.
### - advanced? ya call THAT (or rather: this) advanced?? jeeze...
don't you realise YET that humanity is actually going backwards?
devolving?? going retrograde!
and are slowly turning (or rather: being turned) into programmable cretins!
(i tell ya's what; you should thank god every moment of your life >(metaphorically speaking...) that you are in fact very different from
them?? else you'd still be crawling around in the mud and loving it! >worshiping it + thinking that's ALL there is?! damn right you should!)
And how do you think Israel will "take out" Iran "fairly soon"? With >>>>>> nukes, you know, those undeclared nuclear gravity bombs which
everyone
except the Jews *know* they possess?
### - they don't need nukes to utterly flatten iran but have them if >>>>> required, problem is russia not 'letting' them do it!
Russia let Israel strike Syria and kill Iranians. Russia was warned
by Israel to move its assets and it did. There has been no blowback
from Russia nor will there be.
### - russia have their 'own' red lines don'tcha know?
imho there's some very smart juggling going on out there in a (russian) >attempt to 'absorb' the blows without any major consequences; would appear
to be the name of the game!
for sure russia is actually trying to 'avoid' conflict, but then they are
NOT the aggressors?? (america is! + israel + the uk + all those other
fucking warmongers too!) but they will only go so far/take so much ya
know...
This is the thing. The Jews have nukes, probably in the region of 100 >>>> or so gravity bombs. They don't disclose. They don't agree to
non-proliferation accords. Yet they are not treated the same as Iran
or DPRK. This is rank hypocrisy. And further these bombs are useless >>>> because if they were used in the middle east, say to kill a few
million Persians or Saudis, Israel would be eliminated, annihilated.
If the remaining arabs didn't do it, Russia would. They have no love
for Jews.
### - who knows what will/could happen in detail eventually, suffice to
know it's going down right now! and that however it all plays out it
wont
be good for any of us in the end because it's unlikely to remain only a
local affair once russia & the west start getting involved, as they
inevitably will?
Well I'm writing this almost a week after the event and nothing has
happened. It's gone away. You're wrong again.
### - "it's gone away"??? LOL LOL LOL... :)
haven't you, for example, noticed (yet) the massive military build up
along israeli borders by israeli troops & equipment just now PLUS also
their now calling up of reservists (something they usually don't do unless >they're expecting trouble??)
I think not. If they were so stupid as to attack Iran with nuclear >>>>>> weapons, they would be internationally despised and perhaps the
Holocaust would be completed. I will tell you that *that* action by >>>>>> Israel would be considered genocide and in a short while, there would >>>>>> be no Jews left in the middle east.
### - if iran does 'anything' to israel they'll kick the livin' shit >>>>> outta
iran!
Who? The Israeli's? I doubt it. How the fuck do a few hundred
thousand Israeli's cross hostile Syria to get to Iran and then take on >>>> a country of almost 90 million spread through some of the most
mountainous hostile territory in the world outside of Afghanistan?
They have to get there to kick their arses.
Or are you talking about just bombing Iran? That won't work either.
No war yet has been won with bombing. You need boots on the ground
and Iran is far too populous and distant from Israel for that. Not to >>>> mention Syria between the two...
### - well it's all going down right this minute sport! israel & iran
ARE
hitting each other for real right now this minute, and the chances of it >>> stopping there is minimal...
Lol! It did stop. That "minimal chance" of it stopping turned out to
be an overwhelming probability.
You're wrong again.
### - a 'pause' in the conflict doesn't mean it's over thang! sheesh...
it's just a pause while everything's moved up to the front lines is all...
it hasn't actually stopped in smaller ways + there's more shit-kicking to >come old man, better get used to the idea :)
they're only getting started for christsakes!
It stopped. It never really started. Makes you out to be a bit like
chicken little. That sky is falling...
### - well it was certainly falling in syria last week wasn't it! lolz...
whatever it takes! plus we're right at that very juncture!
No we're not. You're wrong as usual.
### - well apparently WE are!
so israel is just gonna STOP now it's actually started in earnest???
Yep, and they did stop.
### - riiiight...
so how much would ya like to 'bet' on that eh?
$50 says you're totally wrong! and that there WILL be more violence from >israel!
so put yer' money where your mouth is baldy! (hehehe...)
riiiiiight... they didn't start this to NOT finish it!
But it *is* finished.
one way or another they'll finish it alright! bank on it!
Still waiting.
### - so am i actually heh...
not for 'if' but when because i see it as being inevitable
If they don't use nuclear weapons, there is no possibility that
Israel
with its small population could "take out" Iran. Fuck, you talk some >>>>>> nonsense.
### - do you know just 'how long' it's taken the jews to actually
acquire... israel??
whatever it takes! plus we're right at that very juncture!
No we're not. You're wrong as usual.
### - well apparently WE are!
so israel is just gonna STOP now it's actually started in earnest???
Yep, and they did stop.
### - riiiight...
so how much would ya like to 'bet' on that eh?
$50 says you're totally wrong! and that there WILL be more violence from
israel!
so put yer' money where your mouth is baldy! (hehehe...)
Nope, $50 there is no major conflagration between Israel and Iran in
the next 6 months. By that, I mean directly between two nations, not
in between in Syria.
riiiiiight... they didn't start this to NOT finish it!
But it *is* finished.
one way or another they'll finish it alright! bank on it!
Still waiting.
### - so am i actually heh...
not for 'if' but when because i see it as being inevitable
Nothing yet.
They were given Israel, they didn't acquire it.
### - duh they've been trying to acquire it for centuries!?
and they AIN'T gonna give it back now!!!
so... WHATEVER it TAKES! got it?
Wrong.
### - think about it thang instead of merely denying/dismissing the
possibility?
the jews were a homeless/dispossessed + despised people with no place of
their own; for centuries!
I blame those cunts for Facebook/Jewbook :)
and now they've GOTs one (AND are 'totally' tooled up to defend it with
nukes and one of the best armed forces in the world) they AIN'T ever
gonna
willingly give it up again!
Well the second highest per capita defence budget in the world for
sure. And highly trained.
not on your nelly mate! 'no way' are they ever going backwards now!
thus iran's threats to wipe israel off the face of the planet isn't at
all
taken likely by 'em!
Will never happen. Putin will not permit it.
On Mon, 21 May 2018 04:10:38 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
### - snipped most of this as i don't find anything worth replying to?
just this :)
whatever it takes! plus we're right at that very juncture!
No we're not. You're wrong as usual.
### - well apparently WE are!
so israel is just gonna STOP now it's actually started in earnest???
Yep, and they did stop.
### - riiiight...
so how much would ya like to 'bet' on that eh?
$50 says you're totally wrong! and that there WILL be more violence from >>> israel!
so put yer' money where your mouth is baldy! (hehehe...)
Nope, $50 there is no major conflagration between Israel and Iran in
the next 6 months. By that, I mean directly between two nations, not
in between in Syria.
### - 6 months is VERY generous!
you're on! :)
riiiiiight... they didn't start this to NOT finish it!
But it *is* finished.
one way or another they'll finish it alright! bank on it!
Still waiting.
### - so am i actually heh...
not for 'if' but when because i see it as being inevitable
Nothing yet.
### - ya just gave it 6 months and methinks much sooner than that...
watch out for the golan heights!
They were given Israel, they didn't acquire it.
### - duh they've been trying to acquire it for centuries!?
and they AIN'T gonna give it back now!!!
so... WHATEVER it TAKES! got it?
Wrong.
### - think about it thang instead of merely denying/dismissing the
possibility?
the jews were a homeless/dispossessed + despised people with no place of >>> their own; for centuries!
I blame those cunts for Facebook/Jewbook :)
and now they've GOTs one (AND are 'totally' tooled up to defend it with
nukes and one of the best armed forces in the world) they AIN'T ever
gonna
willingly give it up again!
Well the second highest per capita defence budget in the world for
sure. And highly trained.
not on your nelly mate! 'no way' are they ever going backwards now!
thus iran's threats to wipe israel off the face of the planet isn't at
all
taken likely by 'em!
Will never happen. Putin will not permit it.
### - well we'll see wont we :)
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