From:
slider@anashram.com
On Mon, 30 Apr 2018 04:35:04 +0100, thang ornerythinchus <
thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 11:01:55 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 07:47:04 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:28:06 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 09:19:14 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/04/the-campaign-for-donald-trumps-nobel-peace-prize-has-begun.html
"On Friday, North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un and South Korean
president Moon Jae-in came together for a historic meeting that
resulted in a once-unimaginable pledge: The two nations will work to >>>>> officially end the Korean War and denuclearize the peninsula.
Who deserves credit for this momentous meeting and the push toward
peace? Donald Trump, says South Korean foreign minister Kang
Kyung-wha. “He’s been determined to come to grips with this from day >>>>> one,” she recently told CNN.
And he may soon have a Nobel Peace Prize to show for it. Trump and
Kim
are currently the favorites to win the prize, according to one
British
oddsmaker, and some of Trump’s aides are telling reporters that a
lasting thaw between North and South Korea should win Trump the
award."
https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/donald-trump-deserves-the-nobel-peace-prize-20180427-p4zc12.html
and:
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/wheres-trumps-peace-prize/news-story/d7a67de24a4fe15fb26868d99b4561f7
Well done and thank you for ridding this nuclear menace from my
backyard.
### - hehehe bow to your master! he 'created' a problem and then saved >>>> ya's from it and now ya believe in him heart & soul lol - bow to your
master oh unthinking and easily led ones!
sheep to the slaughter you are! (piss off yoda hah...)
now bend over and receive your just reward! :D
sucker!
How did Trump create the problem of DPRK? That was created when
Macarthur was denied permission to take the US Army right through into
China and use nuclear weapons at the same time to achieve this
strategic aim. The world would look much different now and would be
predominantly a US world, Russia and China relegated to backwoods
banana republics (and rightly so).
Trump inherited the problem. Obama ignored the problem yet got the
Nobel for saying a few things with feeling. Trump actually has done
something concrete about it and it looks as though he's resolved it.
### - "LOOKS" - "as though" - the same can be said of 'any' cheap stage
magician? :)
plus, as you yourself stated quite correctly only very recently; the
only
thing 'stopping' the US marching straight into n.korea and smashing the
place to pieces 'iraq-style' is his nuclear weapons program! AND, just
as
soon as he actually lets go of them (if he ever does that is, 'coz he's
fought hard to get them and would be an utter fool to relinquish
them...)
is precisely the time that's exactly what's gonna happen! and ding-dong
knows it! (oh they'll offer him the earth to get rid of his nukes but as
soon as he does?? wallop! ya really *don't* threaten the US like that
and
get away with it thang! he committed political suicide right there at
that
juncture! and they wont stop now until ding-ding and his dynasty are
dust!
one way OR the other they really don't care! they's just playin' the old
good-cop/bad-cop routine on him at the moment is all; he'll prolly be
assassinated?)
You're not thinking strategically. ROK is one of the US's major
global partners along with being the origin of most LCD screens in the
world, Hyundai, LG, Samsung, Hynix, Kia, etc etc. Seoul is about as
big and as advanced as Tokyo. DPRK has now *strategically* aligned
itself with ROK and unification, in some form, perhaps bilateral rule,
will occur very soon.
Once the two yolks are joined, ROK+DPRK=Korea. If the US threatens
the North, then the US threatens all of Korea, south and north. If
the US attacks the North, then the US attacks all of Korea.
Kim is fucking A-grade smart. After reunification, Korea, Kim, nukes
or no nukes, will be invulnerable to the US and to Japan. Do you note
how Japan has been left out of all this even by the US? Read your
history about how Japan has "interacted" with Korea over the last few centuries and you'll understand. Google the term "comfort women".
There is a good chance Kim will retain his rule over the North as part
of a reunited Korea and he will keep his nukes. Watch and see. It's
all in the timing. He is one big deal and a hell of a lot smarter
than Trump.
### - i know what you're saying but disagree... else the US is gonna
renege on its stated intention of anything less than nuke-free n.korea
being intolerable + it's the south the US values not the north who they
are technically still at war with... nah, they gonna fry that little
fucker one way or the other, by hook or by crook they're gonna fuck him up
this time as you don't send parts of the US scurrying for nuclear shelter
(guam & hawaii) while genuinely scaring the rest as ding-dong did recently (they're very angry about that!)
You must be really, really fucking pissed off that your favourite
"trigger point" for WW3 has just gone away, and Trump, who you think
is an inveterate warmonger, is the reason the issue has been resolved.
That must grate on you. Heh.
### - what 'grates' on me is trump so easily bringing the world to the
brink of ww3?? ("peace through strength" duh!) plus you're wrong if you
ever thought/imagined that i actually 'want' that?? (even in my worst
moments of despair i've 'never' wanted that for the world?! lol they are
indeed a bunch of loony-tune cunts on this planet but i don't want them
all dead!) it's just that THAT IS the road the world is ON since the end
of ww2! (since the nuking of hiroshima & nagasaki actually) which didn't
actually 'end' btw! else what was the 'cold war' that followed all
about??
(and don't say it's now over 'coz' it aint; it's hotter now than ever!
now
there's a dozen flash points?? and THIS time it involves nukes EVERY
time!)
*That* is good to know. I had my concerns about your mental health.
### - yeah well fuck off about something always 'being wrong' with me ok?
- stop 'projecting' - i don't do that to you so don't do it to moi as 2
can certainly play at that game and 'you' wouldn't like it... else i don't
mind talking about about anything otherwise, just don't make it personal
and we'll get along fine alright? (if there's something you don't
understand, or don't like, then ask rather than insinuate - don't judge me
and i wont judge you, got it?)
It seemed to me you were begging for WW3 to start. Slider, it won't. Globalisation has prevented it. Even Russia depends on the global
economic network to survive, there's no point wrecking it with nuclear
war, everyone loses. How many Russian billionaires live within 20km
of you?
### - you'd HAVE to be insane to actually want something like that?? (am a
lot of things but insane isn't one of them, in fact am prolly the most
sane person you'll ever meet heh;)
the 'key' to all this is russia, china & iran: the LAST 3 obstacles to
world domination of the capitalist system! (n'korea is just a recent
handy
'object-lesson' for the globe in how tough the US really is and can be -
a: don't fuck with capone! message, or else!)
Bullshit. The US doesn't want Africa or south asia or even the middle
east with all their racial and cultural problems, or their lack of
education, or their health issues. It may want the resources but
colonial times finished with WW2. The US would never want Australia,
we're much better as a partner - same with the UK, and now France. WW3
will not happen. Too many $$$ to lose for all parties concerned.
### - what 'are' you talking about?? oz 'already' belongs to that system
hook, line & stinker! you have a partnership with 'em for christsakes! (a partnership with oz as the minor junior version that is heh...) they
already OWN your arse! oz IS their bitch! as proof they even have you
right in the front-line as part of their early warning system should a ww3
ever start, making you a prime target/one of the very first to go in such
an eventuality! the only ones left whom they haven't either bought,
bribed, blackmailed, bullied and/or otherwise coerced, IS russia, china &
iran! their LAST 3 obstacles to total dominion! they've already GOT
everyone else!
imho you were far 'closer' to the reality of the situation when you
called
him the "Antichrist" heh, and NOW he's your fucking HERO??? - you're
going/facing the wrong way!
Nope, I said he might be the antichrist and I said that tongue in
cheek. Obama for all his sweet talk sat on his arse with DPRK, or
"kicked the can down the road" as the yanks say. Trump did something.
What he did seemingly worked. If the DPRK "threat" goes away on his
watch and it's even only partially due to Trump's actions, then he
deserves the Nobel Peace Prize for the major peace achievement so far
this century.
### - obama (like clinton) DIDN'T start ww3! (hung back from going that
far!) unlike bush & trumpy who didn't even hesitate before playing that
card?? (the left wing don't go looking for war as their first choice
whereas the right wing nearly always do! "peace through strength" =force!
and 'force' = oppression! =the rule of fist! =cunts like hitler running
the planet! and who wants THAT??)
i thought you understood left & right-wing politics and where they're each coming from + why?
but if you need a 101, then consider some kid coming along and asking if
it's ok to say try lsd; from the right you'd get a straight: NO! - whereas
from the left you'd get: well, i dunno about that; but let's talk about
it... (big difference!)
The only thing bigger would be if the US and Russia and China all
disarmed their nuclear arsenals completely. What if Kim makes *that*
a condition of disarming his nation? Let's see the sparks fly then...
### - after actually 'nuking' hirosima & nagasaki that time, they've got a kinda bad conscience about it and thus (quite understandably) a phobia of
it ever happening to them! so they will never totally disarm even if
everyone else does first... (and is the explanation of just 'how'
ding-dong crossed a very certain line by threatening the US with nukes, geeze... you just can't imagine how incredibly upset they are about that??
fuck me! lol)
VERY upset!
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