So Trump does what no other POTUS has been able to do, namely, set the
scene for what happened yesterday when Kim met Moon and they held
hands and committed to an end to the Korean War this year.
Excellent, excellent result.
Let's see you convert this triumph of the spirit of mankind into some
sort of negative outcome slider. You always do. Yet billions see
this as a huge step towards permanent peace in Korea and unification
and a really big success for Comrade Trump. I can guess how you see
it.
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 07:23:56 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
So Trump does what no other POTUS has been able to do, namely, set the
scene for what happened yesterday when Kim met Moon and they held
hands and committed to an end to the Korean War this year.
Excellent, excellent result.
Let's see you convert this triumph of the spirit of mankind into some
sort of negative outcome slider. You always do. Yet billions see
this as a huge step towards permanent peace in Korea and unification
and a really big success for Comrade Trump. I can guess how you see
it.
### - good if you can, as it means you're at least becoming more sceptical
if only by proxy!
i just DON'T trust the fuckers see? none of 'em! - never did never will!
anyone who even gets INTO that business is suspect!
and yes am cold & cynical + extremely sceptical!
they're all a bunch of lying thieving shits right? (damn right they are!)
am an old history student thang! don't EVER trust em!
plus know, before ya even start, that they don't EVER fly straight!
these 'people' are NOT the saviours of this world; they're the destroyers!
it's what they do! :)
they ARE the blind leading the blind!
now stop being quite so... blind!?
and see them for what they are!
(slider causally hands thang a pair of old reading glasses heh; here ya
can borrow these...)
;)
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 17:09:11 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 07:23:56 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
So Trump does what no other POTUS has been able to do, namely, set the
scene for what happened yesterday when Kim met Moon and they held
hands and committed to an end to the Korean War this year.
Excellent, excellent result.
Let's see you convert this triumph of the spirit of mankind into some
sort of negative outcome slider. You always do. Yet billions see
this as a huge step towards permanent peace in Korea and unification
and a really big success for Comrade Trump. I can guess how you see
it.
### - good if you can, as it means you're at least becoming more
sceptical
if only by proxy!
I don't know what you mean by "by proxy" (and yes, I know what a proxy
is, you aspergers you) - but I've always been sceptical, and more so
the longer I live, it's a natural process due to experience. It's
just that sometimes you need to put faith in something and this may as
well be it. It's very phenomenal that Kim took Moon's hand and led
him back over the little wall into DPRK - that was unrehearsed and
shows that Kim is a really creative, live human being. And very, very
smart.
i just DON'T trust the fuckers see? none of 'em! - never did never will!
You don't trust anyone on the planet. That's pathological but you
will never see it.
anyone who even gets INTO that business is suspect!
and yes am cold & cynical + extremely sceptical!
And you're *old* and cynical too :)
they're all a bunch of lying thieving shits right? (damn right they
are!)
Was Ghandi a lying thieving shit? Or Mandela? Or Carter, or
Gorbachev, or even Reagan? Or Kennedy? Or Chamberlain?
am an old history student thang! don't EVER trust em!
No you're not. I am and I recognise your lack of knowledge in most
historic subjects. To make the statement above, grandiose in its
ambit, demonstrates your broad lack of knowledge of history. Or the pathology of your outlook on the world, humanity and life.
plus know, before ya even start, that they don't EVER fly straight!
these 'people' are NOT the saviours of this world; they're the
destroyers!
it's what they do! :)
they ARE the blind leading the blind!
now stop being quite so... blind!?
Stop being so ignorant. You think every person living and dead has
and had evil intention and complete lack of morality and courage of convictions. How ridiculous you sound.
and see them for what they are!
I just see people, just like me. Alive for a short while and then
dead. Same fears, same motivations broadly speaking. Most of them
firmly believing in what they do and that what they do is for the good
of mankind or at least their own people. The Idi Amins, Stalins,
Hitlers, Shahs and Husseins of the world are aberrations - not the
rule.
(slider causally hands thang a pair of old reading glasses heh; here ya
can borrow these...)
;)
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 07:39:06 +0100, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 17:09:11 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 07:23:56 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
So Trump does what no other POTUS has been able to do, namely, set the >>>> scene for what happened yesterday when Kim met Moon and they held
hands and committed to an end to the Korean War this year.
Excellent, excellent result.
Let's see you convert this triumph of the spirit of mankind into some
sort of negative outcome slider. You always do. Yet billions see
this as a huge step towards permanent peace in Korea and unification
and a really big success for Comrade Trump. I can guess how you see
it.
### - good if you can, as it means you're at least becoming more
sceptical
if only by proxy!
I don't know what you mean by "by proxy" (and yes, I know what a proxy
is, you aspergers you) - but I've always been sceptical, and more so
the longer I live, it's a natural process due to experience. It's
just that sometimes you need to put faith in something and this may as
well be it. It's very phenomenal that Kim took Moon's hand and led
him back over the little wall into DPRK - that was unrehearsed and
shows that Kim is a really creative, live human being. And very, very
smart.
### - 'by proxy' i meant you being 'able' to imagine what 'slider' might >say/think about it (which is better than nothing (or not enough) at all? -
am just a bigger sceptic than you, much bigger! (hah! i grew up with these >cunts; i know what they're like! lol) ;)
but it's true though i don't have any... faith? (i.e., i don't 'believe'
in anything! 'believing' in shit is a crappy way of going about things?) i >deal only in what i 'know' to be correct, which is very little! i KNOW >they're a bunch of simpleton cunts, for example, but then sometimes they >still surprise me heh, and i like that ;)
i just DON'T trust the fuckers see? none of 'em! - never did never will!
You don't trust anyone on the planet. That's pathological but you
will never see it.
### - 'pathological' suggests a lack of love, but it's quite possible to
love even a monster hehehe (beauty & the beast?)
i trust 'em to be the bunch of cunts they are? ignorant cunts! but
pardonable 'because' of their ignorance heh... (they don't exactly 'know' >what they's doin'? and if ya gets in their way they 'will' trample on
ya...)
LOL some of my best friends are ignorant cunts! :)))
anyone who even gets INTO that business is suspect!
and yes am cold & cynical + extremely sceptical!
And you're *old* and cynical too :)
### - oh i must be gettin' on for around a quarter-to-dead by now i reckon >hah!
not much longer now! and it's all down-hill ;)
they're all a bunch of lying thieving shits right? (damn right they
are!)
Was Ghandi a lying thieving shit? Or Mandela? Or Carter, or
Gorbachev, or even Reagan? Or Kennedy? Or Chamberlain?
### - but there's always the exception to the rule right? (and they
'always' stand out! smile...)
i.e., ghandi & mandela were in a class of their own anyway (ghandi was a >lawyer and then a holy man, mandela was a freedom fighter who 'overnight'
was 'pushed' into being president in order to save the day with just his >usual philosophy for which he'd been imprisoned for the last 28 years; the >only person in south africa who believed that it was 'still' possible for >black & white people to live together in peace! a rather obvious
philosophy that only originally got him locked up because it just didn't
fit in with the times of apartheid! now it was his 'solution that was
really incredible!: everyone forgive everyone else and start over or we're >all dead! and it worked!?!? cool...)
ya can keep the rest with perhaps the exception of gorby & kennedy, and
more recently obama heh :D ((reagan? that actor?? he did read his lines
well though heh, and will give jimmy a pass if only 'coz he pardoned tim >leary...) but all the rest of 'em? pah! i say: pah! pigs that don't fly >straight! as bent as a 9-dollar note sport! and as crooked as a clockwork >orange! :)))
am an old history student thang! don't EVER trust em!
No you're not. I am and I recognise your lack of knowledge in most
historic subjects. To make the statement above, grandiose in its
ambit, demonstrates your broad lack of knowledge of history. Or the
pathology of your outlook on the world, humanity and life.
### - you want the 'academic' version or the 'real' version?
(clue/hint: the 'victors' are the one's who always write the 'academic' >versions thereof hah...)
plus know, before ya even start, that they don't EVER fly straight!
these 'people' are NOT the saviours of this world; they're the
destroyers!
it's what they do! :)
they ARE the blind leading the blind!
now stop being quite so... blind!?
Stop being so ignorant. You think every person living and dead has
and had evil intention and complete lack of morality and courage of
convictions. How ridiculous you sound.
### - and how gullibley dumb... you sound?
and see them for what they are!
I just see people, just like me. Alive for a short while and then
dead. Same fears, same motivations broadly speaking. Most of them
firmly believing in what they do and that what they do is for the good
of mankind or at least their own people. The Idi Amins, Stalins,
Hitlers, Shahs and Husseins of the world are aberrations - not the
rule.
### - best add old trumpy to that list as well right? 'coz he's
*obviously* as honest as the day is long innit huh? (lol yeah riiiiight...)
truth is... we all ALL start off as completely innocent & perfect little >beings in every respect! (lol even trumpy!) totally! absolutely NOTHING
wrong with 'em! - and then the world happens to them! - first from their >parents, whom, in their own ignorance mostly, do most of the damage
setting those otherwise perfect little souls on their roads to ruin,
mostly because those same parents were completely fucked up in their turn
in exactly the same way by 'their' parents before them! and so on, and so
on, right back into the mists of time! it's like a disease that's passed
from generation to generation, a certain sickness of the mind! that by the
time those same kids reach 20 they're 'already' mostly insane and/or at
least profoundly disturbed!
and am 'not' the only one to ever suggest such a thing! :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsmQhbd1KWE
:)
(slider causally hands thang a pair of old reading glasses heh; here ya
can borrow these...)
;)
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:25:15 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 07:39:06 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 17:09:11 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 07:23:56 +0100, thang ornerythinchus
<thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:
So Trump does what no other POTUS has been able to do, namely, set
the
scene for what happened yesterday when Kim met Moon and they held
hands and committed to an end to the Korean War this year.
Excellent, excellent result.
Let's see you convert this triumph of the spirit of mankind into some >>>>> sort of negative outcome slider. You always do. Yet billions see
this as a huge step towards permanent peace in Korea and unification >>>>> and a really big success for Comrade Trump. I can guess how you see >>>>> it.
### - good if you can, as it means you're at least becoming more
sceptical
if only by proxy!
I don't know what you mean by "by proxy" (and yes, I know what a proxy
is, you aspergers you) - but I've always been sceptical, and more so
the longer I live, it's a natural process due to experience. It's
just that sometimes you need to put faith in something and this may as
well be it. It's very phenomenal that Kim took Moon's hand and led
him back over the little wall into DPRK - that was unrehearsed and
shows that Kim is a really creative, live human being. And very, very
smart.
### - 'by proxy' i meant you being 'able' to imagine what 'slider' might
say/think about it (which is better than nothing (or not enough) at
all? -
am just a bigger sceptic than you, much bigger! (hah! i grew up with
these
cunts; i know what they're like! lol) ;)
but it's true though i don't have any... faith? (i.e., i don't 'believe'
in anything! 'believing' in shit is a crappy way of going about
things?) i
deal only in what i 'know' to be correct, which is very little! i KNOW
they're a bunch of simpleton cunts, for example, but then sometimes they
still surprise me heh, and i like that ;)
God what rubbish. Of course you believe - in the continuity of day
following night, plentiful oxygen for your lungs, birdsongs, the improbability of another Everest sized asteroid hitting the earth
while you live, the innate righteousness of someone in your life
(mother? sibling? lover?), the fact I'll always give you shit until
you stop talking shit, the list of your beliefs goes on and on :)
i just DON'T trust the fuckers see? none of 'em! - never did never
will!
You don't trust anyone on the planet. That's pathological but you
will never see it.
### - 'pathological' suggests a lack of love, but it's quite possible to
love even a monster hehehe (beauty & the beast?)
No pathological relates to sickness, love is an abstraction which has
no place in scientific analysis of human behaviour and brain
dysfunction.
And are you admitting you are a monster Slider?
If you think that,
you have a symptom of MAJOR depression. Clinical depressives always
hate themselves foremost and firstmost. This in turn leads to slow or
fast suicide or at least genuine attempts thereat.
If this is the case, I feel for you. Depression is horrible. I know
of 18 year olds who gassed themselves in cars due to major depressive
illness and the view that there was no solution and no one could help.
I mean this, I'm not sniping at you - this time :)
i trust 'em to be the bunch of cunts they are? ignorant cunts! but
pardonable 'because' of their ignorance heh... (they don't exactly
'know'
what they's doin'? and if ya gets in their way they 'will' trample on
ya...)
LOL some of my best friends are ignorant cunts! :)))
You don't have friends, let alone best friends. People like you don't
let people close. Too vulnerable to other opinions, other views which
would, could, contaminate the world view you have so carefully
constructed over the decades. You do NOT want that upset, therefore,
no friends.
anyone who even gets INTO that business is suspect!
and yes am cold & cynical + extremely sceptical!
And you're *old* and cynical too :)
### - oh i must be gettin' on for around a quarter-to-dead by now i
reckon
hah!
not much longer now! and it's all down-hill ;)
You missed the point. You said you are "cold" and cynical, I said
"and you're "old" and cynical". It balanced on your typo, Mr
Aspergers.
Corrent response would have been, to speak new-age - "my bad".
they're all a bunch of lying thieving shits right? (damn right they
are!)
Was Ghandi a lying thieving shit? Or Mandela? Or Carter, or
Gorbachev, or even Reagan? Or Kennedy? Or Chamberlain?
### - but there's always the exception to the rule right? (and they
'always' stand out! smile...)
i.e., ghandi & mandela were in a class of their own anyway (ghandi was a
lawyer and then a holy man, mandela was a freedom fighter who
'overnight'
was 'pushed' into being president in order to save the day with just his
usual philosophy for which he'd been imprisoned for the last 28 years;
the
only person in south africa who believed that it was 'still' possible
for
black & white people to live together in peace! a rather obvious
philosophy that only originally got him locked up because it just didn't
fit in with the times of apartheid! now it was his 'solution that was
really incredible!: everyone forgive everyone else and start over or
we're
all dead! and it worked!?!? cool...)
ya can keep the rest with perhaps the exception of gorby & kennedy, and
more recently obama heh :D ((reagan? that actor?? he did read his lines
well though heh, and will give jimmy a pass if only 'coz he pardoned tim
leary...) but all the rest of 'em? pah! i say: pah! pigs that don't fly
straight! as bent as a 9-dollar note sport! and as crooked as a
clockwork
orange! :)))
Well I'm not going to argue the point about Ronnie or Jimmy - they
were decent people with different views on life and nations and a lot
of power. Chamberlain was decent, read your history - he was misled
by Hitler and then followed by a major mass murderer, Churchill. Next
to Winston, Chamberlain was a total innocent (Churchill = Bengal
Famine, Dresden Firebombing, African war crimes etc).
Read your history Slider. You will become both enlightened and
persuasive.
am an old history student thang! don't EVER trust em!
No you're not. I am and I recognise your lack of knowledge in most
historic subjects. To make the statement above, grandiose in its
ambit, demonstrates your broad lack of knowledge of history. Or the
pathology of your outlook on the world, humanity and life.
### - you want the 'academic' version or the 'real' version?
(clue/hint: the 'victors' are the one's who always write the 'academic'
versions thereof hah...)
Misattributed to Churchill, more likely from the pen of Goering who
said "The victor will always be the judge and the vanquished the
accused".
plus know, before ya even start, that they don't EVER fly straight!
these 'people' are NOT the saviours of this world; they're the
destroyers!
it's what they do! :)
they ARE the blind leading the blind!
now stop being quite so... blind!?
Stop being so ignorant. You think every person living and dead has
and had evil intention and complete lack of morality and courage of
convictions. How ridiculous you sound.
### - and how gullibley dumb... you sound?
I don't think I'm dumb Slider. I've been misled and confounded and
mistaken but I've never been dumb. Made bad, really bad, decisions,
but even then haven't been dumb.
But I agree I can be gullible. We all can. It's part of being human. Remember?
and see them for what they are!
I just see people, just like me. Alive for a short while and then
dead. Same fears, same motivations broadly speaking. Most of them
firmly believing in what they do and that what they do is for the good
of mankind or at least their own people. The Idi Amins, Stalins,
Hitlers, Shahs and Husseins of the world are aberrations - not the
rule.
### - best add old trumpy to that list as well right? 'coz he's
*obviously* as honest as the day is long innit huh? (lol yeah
riiiiight...)
truth is... we all ALL start off as completely innocent & perfect little
beings in every respect! (lol even trumpy!) totally! absolutely NOTHING
wrong with 'em! - and then the world happens to them! - first from their
parents, whom, in their own ignorance mostly, do most of the damage
setting those otherwise perfect little souls on their roads to ruin,
mostly because those same parents were completely fucked up in their
turn
in exactly the same way by 'their' parents before them! and so on, and
so
on, right back into the mists of time! it's like a disease that's passed
from generation to generation, a certain sickness of the mind! that by
the
time those same kids reach 20 they're 'already' mostly insane and/or at
least profoundly disturbed!
So you had a rotten childhood. Big deal. Millions, perhaps billions,
had unhappy childhoods. Don't blame the parents, your parents. They
had their own demons and hardships to contend with. Cut them some
slack. It will help.
Please leave me out of your endless time-wasting bullshit. :)
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