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the 'new' religion for the modern age they attempted to create, and
admittedly failed to create based as it was on pure bunkum et al, all of
which seems completely ridiculous to us now but which did have some appeal
to the people of the victorian era, which, we also know/realise now, were
a total bunch of crackpots to match hah! thosophy?? bollocks! :)
however... ONE really GOOD story DID emerge out of it all though! that
even though their PLAN failed utterly to materialise, the 'figurehead'
they chose to be the 'new messiah', who was apparently (as you can perhaps
well imagine) educated to the nth degree in order to be 'enabled' to take
on such a 'huge' role; at the very last minute, after actually receiving
such a genuinely 'magnificent' education via the best minds in the world available + the offer of ALL that power; literally turned the job down
flat basically because he realised it was all a total crock and thus
refused to have anything more to do with it! (bravo that man! his
education really WAS good enough to enlighten him, if only enough to see
what a crock this bunch of well-meaning but lunatic body of peeps was attempting to foist upon the world! and he WALKED away taking ALL that education with him!
very cool :)
It does have to be actually. Homo Sapiens sleeps far less than other
primates. This is fact. We have evolved to minimise sleep because of
our mental functions which are more complex than our primate brethren.
But we NEED sleep. Any less than 7 - 9 hours a day and you are
setting yourself up for dementia, diabetes, obesity and a host of
other nasties.
"Humans are short sleepers, where we average 7 hours a night, other
primate species, such as southern pig-tailed macaques and gray mouse
lemurs, need as many as 14 to 17 hours. Additionally, our sleep tends
to be more efficient. We spend a smaller proportion of time in light
stages of sleep, and more of our sleep time in deeper stages of sleep.
Our REM stages make up for 25% of our overall sleep but in primates
such as mouse lemurs, mongoose lemurs and African green monkeys, REM
sleep barely climbs above 5%."
https://anthropology.net/2015/12/14/humans-sleep-more-efficiently-compared-to-other-primates/
http://www.bbc.com/earth/story/20160121-the-strangest-thing-about-human-sleep-is-that-we-need-so-little
You never mention what
your activities are during the times you are awake and not dreaming, >>>>> and you once said that you sleep less and less now, only a handful of >>>>> hours, so I assume logically that you are awake more and more, and
therefore have more and more time on your hands.
### - have always actually slept very little and/or less than most
anyway,
as from quite young i realised a third of our lives is literally spent >>>> doing nada! live 60 years and chances are the average person spends 20 >>>> of
those years snoring?? fuck that! have always been quite jealous (if
that's
the right description) of those lost years and from quite young quite
deliberately set out to claw back as many years as i could from that
otherwise completely wasted 20!
'lucid' dreaming adds another angle to it altogether though; an
alternate
means/way to claw back some of those lost years in terms of although
perhaps being asleep (although via WILDs am distinctly inclined to
challenge that stance...) but NOT unconscious! (i.e., if we have to
sleep
8 hours a day then maybe some of those 8 could be spent lucidly
dreaming
instead of completely shutting down)
this being more stephen laberge's idea actually, but only because he
chose
to specialise in dilds!
add WILDs into that mix, however, and the whole picture changes again! >>>> because WILDs aren't just lucid dreaming while one is asleep! WILDs is >>>> quite consciously entering into an altered state of awareness in the
full
awareness of doing so while one is awake! so technically speaking one
ISN'T actually asleep at all! that on 'that' basis 'sleep' as we know
it
could even become a thing of the past! (and that's potentially really
quite interesting in evolutionary terms, see? thus: arise homo
acutus!)
What do you do with that time? Nary a word from you ever. You know >>>>> what I do, I work (until recently at least), I interact with my
extended family, a lot - I read, I pirate movies and watch them, etc >>>>> etc. And I am a particularly secretive, private person, yet you know >>>>> these things about me.
What about you? What the heck do you *do* during your daily 18 hours >>>>> or so of wakefulness?
### - i'll sometimes/often go 36 (or more) hours of waking (no sleep
or
WILDs at all!) staying up all night, hanging out (at one point) with
bunches of friends smoking, listening to music, reading, playing
chess,
discussing life, the universe & everything... as i write this, for
example, i haven't slept now for going on 25 hours + at some point
today
(which is never planned btw) i'll prolly crash, and/or these days go
WILD
since i've learned to do this, thus completely confounding any
otherwise
normal/usual routines as most peeps generally know and apply them...
they're all gone!
36 hours without sleep, in your 60's? No way unless you are unwisely
using dexamphetamines or similar. Your life sounds chaotic and
unplanned which in itself is not a good way to go through life.
### - sometimes even longer hehehe (did a 48-hour stint only last week)
and no, not on speed either! there's no longer any such routines in my
life! (there was hardly any such routines before heh, such was the life
i
was living for years & years, but the ability to WILD has freed me up
even
from that now...)
My citations above regarding how efficiently we sleep in context of
other primate species remain ignored by you. We already are efficient sleepers *and* we need, demonstrably, at least 7 hours sleep per night
- how on earth can you feel that we waste such time sleeping or that
you can sleep constantly less than say 6 hours a night and not be
disposed to diabetes, obesity, vascular issues, heart attack and
stroke?
I'd be interested in your justifications in light of the science
behind sleep minimums and how much sleep our less evolved cousins
require...
### - this was undoubtedly part of the missing part-2 mentioned hehehe...
(lol i still don't know what really happened to it heh, it got chopped up
in attempting to make 2 parts of it to suit my server's limitations,
somehow confused the 2 parts (laughing) whereon most of it ended up in the trash lol...), anyways, having fished 'some' of it back outta the trash,
here's what i wrote regarding the above:
### - i hear you + am fully aware of all that... but... still maintain
that really it's all just 'learned' behaviour rather than somehow being something strictly inherent to our nature + genes; we're highly adaptable
and, being given a basic starter for 10 in terms of range, have merely
adapted (and settled down) to the way things 'currently' are and have been 'allowed' to become! we CAN be (have been!) conditioned!
i.e., force peeps to work a 9 to 10 regime religiously, for years, and
don't be surprised when they suddenly require 8 hours slumber every day
without fail? peeps who don't work so hard don't require so much prolonged sleep, and people who don't work at all and loaf about also develop
particular sleeping patterns quite different from the regimented
workers! thus, imho, all of it, the circadian patterns and usual sleep
pattern as we know it and are all familiar with, are merely the result of having been inducted from birth into some particular (yet arbitrary)
regime or another that's been directly regulating their lives FOR them!
so much so peeps who don't know anything different to that can then swear
that that's the only way it can ever be! only it ain't!
i.e., go back a few million years (or whatever) when tribes of people
basically spent their lives around their camp fires, wild beasts might
come upon them in the night so no one could really breathe a sigh of
relief or relax until the dawn came up the next morning, their lives
entirely regulated by the day/night cycle, villages didn't all go to sleep
at the same time when night set in, however, the kids (and elders) prolly
slept all night, but the adults had to be more vigilant and thus
all-nighters of the whole tribe dancing around the main camp fire was
probably the norm for ages, with long naps probably being more usual and
not everyone all at the same time either!
modern life giving rise directly to modern sleeping patterns et all... but that's all... plus it's not really something peeps have experimented much
with so it's all completely taken for granted as being the ONLY way things
can ever be and which remains unquestioned/unchallenged to a larger
degree... change the settings, however, and those same patterns, seemingly written in stone, also change!
now IF one of those modern workers requiring 8 hours of downtime every
night
were to alter their patterns counter to what their unconscious lifestyles demand, then i don't doubt they'd become ill... change their lifestyle, however, and perforce they'd automatically require/acquire a 'different' regime!
iow: HOW we live determines HOW we rest and NOT the other way around! (a
common enough 180-degree error brought about via peeps more 'subjective' appreciation of how things are in reality, one that once led them to think
the sun unquestioningly revolved around the earth for example, etc etc...)
+
plenty of similar other examples exist whereon they thought that the brain
was fixed and that the peeps who were good at music had some kinda 'extra'
lump of brain that accounted for it, only it's completely the other way
around:
that the brain in fact 'grows' that same extra lump merely from being
'exposed'
to music at 'any' time during one's lifetime! - big difference! real
chicken &
egg stuff! (one implication being: we didn't evolve eyes to see light
with, we
evolved eyes because light existed and had that effect upon us!)
You clearly don't have a female in your life at the moment. You need
one. They instill order and discipline. If you keep these wild hours
up you will do irreparable damage to your health.
### - i don't have one now (a wife i mean) but have been there, done
that,
raised a kid, was kinda even respectable hah, the whole nine yards as
mentioned before... (something jeremy then lept on me for using the
term 'mahatma' (means renunciate) in the same context by way of
explaining
(to you at the time) my current stance... him suggesting/implying that
i'd
maybe then somehow abandoned my family & kids in the process just to be
a
mahatma (now really! as if!) and which wasn't at all what i meant but
which he suitably twisted it into to then beat me with! (not having
anything else real enough to hit me with he jumped on that?? and is
proof,
if nothing else, that he really *doesn't* have anything else to beat me
with to have to even resort to such demeaning slander? he doesn't
actually
have anything to hit me with of any moment so simply resorts to
slinging mud at each & every opportunity...)
I don't believe you're disrespectable now. You're law abiding, you
are doing your own thing without hassling anyone else and you're a
citizen of one of the foremost democracies. As they used to say in
the 70's, keep on keeping on.
### - i had self respect but wasn't respectable by societies standards
heh, i was a total dropout! squatted instead of paying rent, hustled
instead of working + didn't give a flying-feck about what everyone else
did and/or aspired to doing in a worldly sense, but yet always seemed to
get by :)
My old man had two wives - the first died young and the second was a
gold digging cunt who took him for every cent he was worth along with
his self-respect. Being married once is better than never having been married. Regarding Dave, it seems he was once married too - so glass
houses and all that.
I was just lucky enough to find a woman who was strong willed enough
to put up with my "assertive" tendencies and put me in my place and
who was loyal and loving and, last but not least, a fucking great cook
:) She's ethic, Italian, so maybe that's the deal. I'm also very
tolerant of behaviour having lived through a lot of extremes when I
was a kid and that, I guess, is a plus.
Personal loyalty counts for a lot too in marriage. Ya gotta be brave
and willing and able to fight some bastard who's making a play for
yoru woman even though you know you'll get your head beaten in...
My two daugthers have in turn produced 7 children of their own. But
our relationships are not what you would call "the Waltons". I don't
think anyone's are. So no bones pointed...
### - imho you didn't have the 'distractions' the vast majority are
subject (and subjected) to and so all of the above was actually fairly
easy for you to put into practice without too much ado? (after you made up
your mind to do so i mean 'coz THAT was the hard part...), that sans those
more usual distractions on your plate it was all relatively
straightforward from you pov, simple math! but not so simple for the
others who have all that 'other' crap to have to deal with as well! that
in that sense you were actually very fortunate indeed! (oh they can do it
too, but not until they get their heads sorted out first, either
deliberately in some cases and/or through a process of indoctrination that beats it into 'em! literally!)
(cont... hopefully heh...)
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