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    From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 13:18:42
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    Mate I think Putin is going to put a few warheads in your collective
    UK basket.

    He smirked when he was asked whether he authorised the Russian VX
    knockoff to (attempt to) kill the traitor and now he's clearly killed
    another enemy.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/13/europe/nikolai-glushkov-russia-intl/index.html

    Putin and his cronies are telling that retarded woman May not to
    threaten a nuclear power. I think whatever Putin has on comrade Trump
    will ensure that if Putin does hit the UK, Trump will sit back and not
    assist.

    Alone, the UK would be no match at all for Russia.

    Batten down the hatches Brian, there's a storm coming...

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, March 14, 2018 06:28:09
    From: slider@anashram.com

    thang wrote...

    Mate I think Putin is going to put a few warheads in your collective
    UK basket.

    He smirked when he was asked whether he authorised the Russian VX
    knockoff to (attempt to) kill the traitor and now he's clearly killed
    another enemy.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/13/europe/nikolai-glushkov-russia-intl/index.html

    Putin and his cronies are telling that retarded woman May not to
    threaten a nuclear power. I think whatever Putin has on comrade Trump
    will ensure that if Putin does hit the UK, Trump will sit back and not assist.

    Alone, the UK would be no match at all for Russia.

    Batten down the hatches Brian, there's a storm coming...

    ### - smile, we don't really know what's going on here nor why?

    chances are we did something horrible to them first though (i.e., our
    james bond killed or whatever some of their agents/defectors) and then
    'this' is what typically happens with any previous/prior agreements...

    could be completely wrong of course (heh) but russia hardly ever seems to
    be the one to make the first move in anything? they're usually attacked
    first and only then retaliate etc etc?

    and then 'we' make a big public hoo-ha over whatever reprisals occur;
    putin no doubt smirking upon hearing the uk's 'version' of the story
    that's been released to the press, like he knows what 'really' happened &
    why, which am sure he prolly does know heh...

    his message being one of: it's no good thinking you're 'safe' if you're
    not really safe innit! we can get to ya's anytime! anywhere! so don't mess
    with russia!

    is anyone... safe??

    lol prolly not :)))

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 15, 2018 07:05:03
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:28:09 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    thang wrote...

    Mate I think Putin is going to put a few warheads in your collective
    UK basket.

    He smirked when he was asked whether he authorised the Russian VX
    knockoff to (attempt to) kill the traitor and now he's clearly killed
    another enemy.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/13/europe/nikolai-glushkov-russia-intl/index.html

    Putin and his cronies are telling that retarded woman May not to
    threaten a nuclear power. I think whatever Putin has on comrade Trump
    will ensure that if Putin does hit the UK, Trump will sit back and not
    assist.

    Alone, the UK would be no match at all for Russia.

    Batten down the hatches Brian, there's a storm coming...

    ### - smile, we don't really know what's going on here nor why?

    Well actually, yes "we" do. Putin has left a trail of assasinated
    bodies across Europe (but never the US - bullies are like that) for a
    long time now, remember Litvinenko? Killed by polonium in London in
    2006? Polonium can only be manufactured by a state like Russia - I
    doubt even the UK could process uranium into polonium.



    chances are we did something horrible to them first though (i.e., our
    james bond killed or whatever some of their agents/defectors) and then
    'this' is what typically happens with any previous/prior agreements...

    That's completely brain fucked Brian. Try thinking for once. Only
    Putin would have the clout in Russia to authorise/order an
    assasination on foreign soil and the only reason he has hit these
    former spies and in this case the daughter of a former spy is because
    he thought he could get away with it because he considers the UK to be intrinsically weak (as I said, if he did this in the US, it would be
    considered an act of war - that's why he has never done this in the US
    and will never do this in the US, he's basically a pragmatic coward).

    You clearly know nothing. Go back to your dreams.

    BTW, tell me why you use grammar like "previous/prior"? Don't they
    mean the same thing? What point are you trying to make?

    You haven't improved at all in my absence...


    could be completely wrong of course (heh) but russia hardly ever seems to
    be the one to make the first move in anything? they're usually attacked
    first and only then retaliate etc etc?

    You *are* "completely wrong". What about Ukraine, and expecially the
    Crimea? Are you going to rewrite history - Ukraine attacked Russia?
    Lol. Chechnya? Georgia? Forgotten them as well? Going back, how
    about Czechoslovakia in 1968? Iran, commonly known as Russia's
    Vietnam?


    and then 'we' make a big public hoo-ha over whatever reprisals occur;
    putin no doubt smirking upon hearing the uk's 'version' of the story
    that's been released to the press, like he knows what 'really' happened & >why, which am sure he prolly does know heh...

    Yeah, except after May has just expelled his diplomatic corps and will
    probably sieze Putins' gangster oligarch friends' assets in London,
    Putin is sneering on the other side of his face. He never expected
    this from May and I for one have some respect for the woman now. Nikki
    Haley just condemned the Russians in the UN, a few hours ago. The
    entire world is turning against the cunts.

    "What really happened", Brian, is Putin, old KGB hand that he is,
    ordered an assasination in London, as he has done before and gotten
    away with it. This time, it backfired.

    That's "what really happened" you turncoat :)


    his message being one of: it's no good thinking you're 'safe' if you're
    not really safe innit! we can get to ya's anytime! anywhere! so don't mess >with russia!

    Russia is quite an impoverished nation. It depends on foreign
    currency injection through the sale of fossil fuels and armaments to
    prop up its gangster elite. That, now, will dry up. May might invoke
    NATO provisions against Russia and it looks as though Trump is now
    firmly behind May along with Merkel and others. We in Australia will
    certainly condemn the cunts, and rightly so.

    What are they going to do? Start an unwinnable war? Russia is ringed
    by Trident SLBMs with over 4000 450kt warheads aimed from 14 Ohio
    ballistic submarines, the Russians have only one ballistic submarine
    Typhoon class, the remainder are rusting relics.



    is anyone... safe??

    You are, in your ignorance. Head in sand as usual.




    lol prolly not :)))
    We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark;
    the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

    Plato

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Thursday, March 15, 2018 06:08:48
    From: slider@anashram.com

    ### - with all due respect, you have a somewhat rather romantic/biased
    view of things and so really don't know what you're talking about? :)

    e.g., have a little look at this spy series i kinda grew up with...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHTR9JZgAk

    used to like callan hehehe ;)




    On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:05:03 -0000, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:28:09 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    thang wrote...

    Mate I think Putin is going to put a few warheads in your collective
    UK basket.

    He smirked when he was asked whether he authorised the Russian VX
    knockoff to (attempt to) kill the traitor and now he's clearly killed
    another enemy.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/13/europe/nikolai-glushkov-russia-intl/index.html

    Putin and his cronies are telling that retarded woman May not to
    threaten a nuclear power. I think whatever Putin has on comrade Trump
    will ensure that if Putin does hit the UK, Trump will sit back and not
    assist.

    Alone, the UK would be no match at all for Russia.

    Batten down the hatches Brian, there's a storm coming...

    ### - smile, we don't really know what's going on here nor why?

    Well actually, yes "we" do. Putin has left a trail of assasinated
    bodies across Europe (but never the US - bullies are like that) for a
    long time now, remember Litvinenko? Killed by polonium in London in
    2006? Polonium can only be manufactured by a state like Russia - I
    doubt even the UK could process uranium into polonium.



    chances are we did something horrible to them first though (i.e., our
    james bond killed or whatever some of their agents/defectors) and then
    'this' is what typically happens with any previous/prior agreements...

    That's completely brain fucked Brian. Try thinking for once. Only
    Putin would have the clout in Russia to authorise/order an
    assasination on foreign soil and the only reason he has hit these
    former spies and in this case the daughter of a former spy is because
    he thought he could get away with it because he considers the UK to be intrinsically weak (as I said, if he did this in the US, it would be considered an act of war - that's why he has never done this in the US
    and will never do this in the US, he's basically a pragmatic coward).

    You clearly know nothing. Go back to your dreams.

    BTW, tell me why you use grammar like "previous/prior"? Don't they
    mean the same thing? What point are you trying to make?

    You haven't improved at all in my absence...


    could be completely wrong of course (heh) but russia hardly ever seems
    to
    be the one to make the first move in anything? they're usually attacked
    first and only then retaliate etc etc?

    You *are* "completely wrong". What about Ukraine, and expecially the
    Crimea? Are you going to rewrite history - Ukraine attacked Russia?
    Lol. Chechnya? Georgia? Forgotten them as well? Going back, how
    about Czechoslovakia in 1968? Iran, commonly known as Russia's
    Vietnam?


    and then 'we' make a big public hoo-ha over whatever reprisals occur;
    putin no doubt smirking upon hearing the uk's 'version' of the story
    that's been released to the press, like he knows what 'really' happened
    &
    why, which am sure he prolly does know heh...

    Yeah, except after May has just expelled his diplomatic corps and will probably sieze Putins' gangster oligarch friends' assets in London,
    Putin is sneering on the other side of his face. He never expected
    this from May and I for one have some respect for the woman now. Nikki
    Haley just condemned the Russians in the UN, a few hours ago. The
    entire world is turning against the cunts.

    "What really happened", Brian, is Putin, old KGB hand that he is,
    ordered an assasination in London, as he has done before and gotten
    away with it. This time, it backfired.

    That's "what really happened" you turncoat :)


    his message being one of: it's no good thinking you're 'safe' if you're
    not really safe innit! we can get to ya's anytime! anywhere! so don't
    mess
    with russia!

    Russia is quite an impoverished nation. It depends on foreign
    currency injection through the sale of fossil fuels and armaments to
    prop up its gangster elite. That, now, will dry up. May might invoke
    NATO provisions against Russia and it looks as though Trump is now
    firmly behind May along with Merkel and others. We in Australia will certainly condemn the cunts, and rightly so.

    What are they going to do? Start an unwinnable war? Russia is ringed
    by Trident SLBMs with over 4000 450kt warheads aimed from 14 Ohio
    ballistic submarines, the Russians have only one ballistic submarine
    Typhoon class, the remainder are rusting relics.



    is anyone... safe??

    You are, in your ignorance. Head in sand as usual.




    lol prolly not :)))
    We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark;
    the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

    Plato

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 15, 2018 16:34:18
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 06:08:48 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    ### - with all due respect, you have a somewhat rather romantic/biased
    view of things and so really don't know what you're talking about? :)

    e.g., have a little look at this spy series i kinda grew up with...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHTR9JZgAk

    used to like callan hehehe ;)

    Stop top posting you dill.

    I watched probably every episode of Edward Woodward doing his
    inimitable Callan, a real spy who really killed when it was absolutely necessary. Very realistic and very, very dry.

    One episode sticks in my memory. He has to take on a junior MI6 spy
    (an intern if you like), glossy bell bottom trousers, airbrushed hair
    and taste in music extending to Hawkwind and the like. I remember
    Callan walks in and Hawkwind is playing on the record player, Callan
    breezes in and with typical disdain says something like "Turn that
    dross off"...

    Problem was, it wasn't dross, it was *this*:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgrKUDQQKsc

    Lenny on drums I believe :)







    On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 23:05:03 -0000, thang ornerythinchus ><thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Wed, 14 Mar 2018 06:28:09 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    thang wrote...

    Mate I think Putin is going to put a few warheads in your collective
    UK basket.

    He smirked when he was asked whether he authorised the Russian VX
    knockoff to (attempt to) kill the traitor and now he's clearly killed
    another enemy.

    https://edition.cnn.com/2018/03/13/europe/nikolai-glushkov-russia-intl/index.html

    Putin and his cronies are telling that retarded woman May not to
    threaten a nuclear power. I think whatever Putin has on comrade Trump >>>> will ensure that if Putin does hit the UK, Trump will sit back and not >>>> assist.

    Alone, the UK would be no match at all for Russia.

    Batten down the hatches Brian, there's a storm coming...

    ### - smile, we don't really know what's going on here nor why?

    Well actually, yes "we" do. Putin has left a trail of assasinated
    bodies across Europe (but never the US - bullies are like that) for a
    long time now, remember Litvinenko? Killed by polonium in London in
    2006? Polonium can only be manufactured by a state like Russia - I
    doubt even the UK could process uranium into polonium.



    chances are we did something horrible to them first though (i.e., our
    james bond killed or whatever some of their agents/defectors) and then
    'this' is what typically happens with any previous/prior agreements...

    That's completely brain fucked Brian. Try thinking for once. Only
    Putin would have the clout in Russia to authorise/order an
    assasination on foreign soil and the only reason he has hit these
    former spies and in this case the daughter of a former spy is because
    he thought he could get away with it because he considers the UK to be
    intrinsically weak (as I said, if he did this in the US, it would be
    considered an act of war - that's why he has never done this in the US
    and will never do this in the US, he's basically a pragmatic coward).

    You clearly know nothing. Go back to your dreams.

    BTW, tell me why you use grammar like "previous/prior"? Don't they
    mean the same thing? What point are you trying to make?

    You haven't improved at all in my absence...


    could be completely wrong of course (heh) but russia hardly ever seems
    to
    be the one to make the first move in anything? they're usually attacked
    first and only then retaliate etc etc?

    You *are* "completely wrong". What about Ukraine, and expecially the
    Crimea? Are you going to rewrite history - Ukraine attacked Russia?
    Lol. Chechnya? Georgia? Forgotten them as well? Going back, how
    about Czechoslovakia in 1968? Iran, commonly known as Russia's
    Vietnam?


    and then 'we' make a big public hoo-ha over whatever reprisals occur;
    putin no doubt smirking upon hearing the uk's 'version' of the story
    that's been released to the press, like he knows what 'really' happened
    &
    why, which am sure he prolly does know heh...

    Yeah, except after May has just expelled his diplomatic corps and will
    probably sieze Putins' gangster oligarch friends' assets in London,
    Putin is sneering on the other side of his face. He never expected
    this from May and I for one have some respect for the woman now. Nikki
    Haley just condemned the Russians in the UN, a few hours ago. The
    entire world is turning against the cunts.

    "What really happened", Brian, is Putin, old KGB hand that he is,
    ordered an assasination in London, as he has done before and gotten
    away with it. This time, it backfired.

    That's "what really happened" you turncoat :)


    his message being one of: it's no good thinking you're 'safe' if you're
    not really safe innit! we can get to ya's anytime! anywhere! so don't
    mess
    with russia!

    Russia is quite an impoverished nation. It depends on foreign
    currency injection through the sale of fossil fuels and armaments to
    prop up its gangster elite. That, now, will dry up. May might invoke
    NATO provisions against Russia and it looks as though Trump is now
    firmly behind May along with Merkel and others. We in Australia will
    certainly condemn the cunts, and rightly so.

    What are they going to do? Start an unwinnable war? Russia is ringed
    by Trident SLBMs with over 4000 450kt warheads aimed from 14 Ohio
    ballistic submarines, the Russians have only one ballistic submarine
    Typhoon class, the remainder are rusting relics.



    is anyone... safe??

    You are, in your ignorance. Head in sand as usual.




    lol prolly not :)))
    We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark;
    the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.

    Plato

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:50:32
    From: slider@anashram.com

    thango wrote...

    ### - with all due respect, you have a somewhat rather romantic/biased
    view of things and so really don't know what you're talking about? :)

    e.g., have a little look at this spy series i kinda grew up with...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHTR9JZgAk

    used to like callan hehehe ;)

    Stop top posting you dill.

    I watched probably every episode of Edward Woodward doing his
    inimitable Callan, a real spy who really killed when it was absolutely necessary. Very realistic and very, very dry.

    One episode sticks in my memory. He has to take on a junior MI6 spy
    (an intern if you like), glossy bell bottom trousers, airbrushed hair
    and taste in music extending to Hawkwind and the like. I remember
    Callan walks in and Hawkwind is playing on the record player, Callan
    breezes in and with typical disdain says something like "Turn that
    dross off"...

    Problem was, it wasn't dross, it was *this*:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgrKUDQQKsc

    Lenny on drums I believe :)

    ### - if you really saw so many episodes of callen (i always liked that
    series as a kid 'and' probably also saw all of them too...) then you also
    know that the majority of their dirty jobs were usually in the form of tit-for-tat? that there was usually always a good reason for any job +
    callen often sweated the borderline cases but still did his job anyway...

    that a kind of status quo was often struck between mi5/6 and the 'enemy' (usually russia) with certain exceptions; and that most of the spies were
    known quantities on both sides but tolerated for whatever various reasons, sometimes even to deliberately relaying 'disinformation' to the enemy (as
    in triple cross/the true eddie chapman story i posted), and that ALL
    nations are/were basically spying on all the other nations, with them all following each other around and giving each other the slip etc etc heh;
    and then some diplomatic incident would arise and each country would
    publicly expel a dozen or so 'diplomats' (read: spies) from each other's country heh tit-for-tat-wise, and that it's all been going on for simply decades and will prolly never end!

    so when i say/suggest that russia must have done what they've done
    recently (IF in fact they did it, i mean, because sometimes it's a also a
    total set up!) for a reason, then it's prolly not 'that' far from the
    truth? we the public, of course, never hearing of the 'real' reasons
    behind anything except perhaps when black propaganda's involved (the
    deliberate blackening/demonising of an enemy for whatever political purposes...) such as, for example and imho, the downing of flight mh17
    that time in ukraine, something which bore all the hallmarks of a black propaganda campaign (i even called it about a month beforehand because
    russia was winning and had left them with basically no alternative to
    crimea? a situation itself directly brought about by western interference
    in ukraine, to the point that, if it continued, russia was gonna be
    cut-off from their only port to the black sea unless they did something
    about it!)

    so litvinchenko just killed outta the blue so spectacularly that time for
    nada? (riiight...) and now these 2 for no apparent reason either?? (double riiiight, although i suspect that when things like nerve gas or radiation
    is involved it's all for show and we don't really know 'which' side did it
    nor why... but you can bet your bottom dollar it wasn't just for nothing
    nor mere a random event! to kill 2 of their defecting russian agents and
    then blame it on the russians themselves wouldn't be the first time
    something like that's happened either?!)

    one thing i do know for sure though, is that it's almost certain that
    whatever 'public' reasons are provided/given, they're probably not
    correct! and there's another reason altogether that we'll never know!

    that the way 'both' of those incidents (litvenchenko & these latest) were released to the press involving extremely controversial methods, were very likely deliberately + singularly 'designed' to 'make noise' AND to raise negative public opinion! possibly as justification for what's coming next
    in a seemingly then justified response! (might be used as a half-valid
    reason for putting more armed police on the streets for example, for
    suddenly increasing that budget/spending, or shutting ports!)

    that when all these things are usually completely covert anyway, best
    advise is to pay no attention when it's made public like this as we are basically being 'told' what to think AND where to look!

    that when they thus command everyone to: eyes-left! i usually tend to look eyes-right because of knowing/realising things like that...

    and don't bash callen 'coz he wasn't a hawkwind fan lol, the ONLY thing
    the 'complete outsider' callen ever seemed to like; was his hand-painted
    model lead soldiers!

    (outsiders can be a bit quirky like that sometimes innit heh) ;)

    truncated the rest because redundant hehehe...

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:09:31
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:50:32 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    thango wrote...

    ### - with all due respect, you have a somewhat rather romantic/biased
    view of things and so really don't know what you're talking about? :)

    e.g., have a little look at this spy series i kinda grew up with...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHTR9JZgAk

    used to like callan hehehe ;)

    Stop top posting you dill.

    I watched probably every episode of Edward Woodward doing his
    inimitable Callan, a real spy who really killed when it was absolutely
    necessary. Very realistic and very, very dry.

    One episode sticks in my memory. He has to take on a junior MI6 spy
    (an intern if you like), glossy bell bottom trousers, airbrushed hair
    and taste in music extending to Hawkwind and the like. I remember
    Callan walks in and Hawkwind is playing on the record player, Callan
    breezes in and with typical disdain says something like "Turn that
    dross off"...

    Problem was, it wasn't dross, it was *this*:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgrKUDQQKsc

    Lenny on drums I believe :)

    ### - if you really saw so many episodes of callen (i always liked that >series as a kid 'and' probably also saw all of them too...) then you also >know that the majority of their dirty jobs were usually in the form of >tit-for-tat? that there was usually always a good reason for any job +
    callen often sweated the borderline cases but still did his job anyway...

    I doubt I saw all of them and I didn't see his movies which I think
    were not monochrome. However my old man was a Callan nut and I sort
    of liked Callan's personality issues, psychological issues and so on
    but it was waaaay too grown up for me at that age - I had girls,
    parties, peer group stuff and so on on my mind. I was only 12 when
    the series started after all.

    But I recall seeing a lot of them and the old man was gripped by the
    realism of the series and the coldness of Callan himself. I'm going
    to edit what I wrote though, the Hawkwind was playing in Toby's flat -
    remember Toby, Callan's sidekick who was a real time psychopathic
    killer who enjoyed killing, unlike Callan to whom killing was an
    unfortunate part of the job. Toby had the mod clothes and the beatle
    haircut, good looking guy but totally whacko killer who was educated
    by Callan and I think Callan killed him at some point with a bit of
    relish too...

    The show puts to shame even modern CIA, FBI, MI6 stuff and definitely
    puts to shame Sean et al as Bond. Mitchell was a script writer and I
    don't think Fleming ever wrote scripts (but I might be wrong) and
    Mitchell was nothing short of genius for creating Callan.

    Fond remembrance. I've managed to find torrents for series 3 and 4
    and the movie and I'm DL'ing as we "speak". Meanwhile, for your
    enjoyment, there's *this*:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8kQyZ76mCk




    that a kind of status quo was often struck between mi5/6 and the 'enemy' >(usually russia) with certain exceptions; and that most of the spies were >known quantities on both sides but tolerated for whatever various reasons, >sometimes even to deliberately relaying 'disinformation' to the enemy (as
    in triple cross/the true eddie chapman story i posted), and that ALL
    nations are/were basically spying on all the other nations, with them all >following each other around and giving each other the slip etc etc heh;
    and then some diplomatic incident would arise and each country would
    publicly expel a dozen or so 'diplomats' (read: spies) from each other's >country heh tit-for-tat-wise, and that it's all been going on for simply >decades and will prolly never end!

    so when i say/suggest that russia must have done what they've done
    recently (IF in fact they did it, i mean, because sometimes it's a also a >total set up!) for a reason, then it's prolly not 'that' far from the
    truth? we the public, of course, never hearing of the 'real' reasons
    behind anything except perhaps when black propaganda's involved (the >deliberate blackening/demonising of an enemy for whatever political >purposes...) such as, for example and imho, the downing of flight mh17
    that time in ukraine, something which bore all the hallmarks of a black >propaganda campaign (i even called it about a month beforehand because
    russia was winning and had left them with basically no alternative to
    crimea? a situation itself directly brought about by western interference
    in ukraine, to the point that, if it continued, russia was gonna be
    cut-off from their only port to the black sea unless they did something
    about it!)

    so litvinchenko just killed outta the blue so spectacularly that time for >nada? (riiight...) and now these 2 for no apparent reason either?? (double >riiiight, although i suspect that when things like nerve gas or radiation
    is involved it's all for show and we don't really know 'which' side did it >nor why... but you can bet your bottom dollar it wasn't just for nothing
    nor mere a random event! to kill 2 of their defecting russian agents and
    then blame it on the russians themselves wouldn't be the first time
    something like that's happened either?!)

    one thing i do know for sure though, is that it's almost certain that >whatever 'public' reasons are provided/given, they're probably not
    correct! and there's another reason altogether that we'll never know!

    that the way 'both' of those incidents (litvenchenko & these latest) were >released to the press involving extremely controversial methods, were very >likely deliberately + singularly 'designed' to 'make noise' AND to raise >negative public opinion! possibly as justification for what's coming next
    in a seemingly then justified response! (might be used as a half-valid
    reason for putting more armed police on the streets for example, for
    suddenly increasing that budget/spending, or shutting ports!)

    that when all these things are usually completely covert anyway, best
    advise is to pay no attention when it's made public like this as we are >basically being 'told' what to think AND where to look!

    that when they thus command everyone to: eyes-left! i usually tend to look >eyes-right because of knowing/realising things like that...

    and don't bash callen 'coz he wasn't a hawkwind fan lol, the ONLY thing
    the 'complete outsider' callen ever seemed to like; was his hand-painted >model lead soldiers!

    (outsiders can be a bit quirky like that sometimes innit heh) ;)

    truncated the rest because redundant hehehe...

    Putin has a major problem now that the second guy has been murdered.
    His problem is not what you think it is. His problem is the World Cup
    which will be held in Russia. This is probably the most beloved
    annual sporting event in the world.

    If Putin's actions, cunt that he is, cause the Cup to be boycotted,
    Putin will suffer enormously. Nothing else will sting like a mass
    boycott of the World Cup and if this occurs, Putin will at last be
    hung out to dry by his own people.

    That will be a bad thing happening to a bad person. Karma baby...



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    or a designer."

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to thangolossus@gmail.com on Saturday, March 17, 2018 10:57:52
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Sat, 17 Mar 2018 03:09:31 -0000, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:50:32 -0000, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    thango wrote...

    ### - with all due respect, you have a somewhat rather romantic/biased >>>> view of things and so really don't know what you're talking about? :)

    e.g., have a little look at this spy series i kinda grew up with...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHTR9JZgAk

    used to like callan hehehe ;)

    Stop top posting you dill.

    I watched probably every episode of Edward Woodward doing his
    inimitable Callan, a real spy who really killed when it was absolutely
    necessary. Very realistic and very, very dry.

    One episode sticks in my memory. He has to take on a junior MI6 spy
    (an intern if you like), glossy bell bottom trousers, airbrushed hair
    and taste in music extending to Hawkwind and the like. I remember
    Callan walks in and Hawkwind is playing on the record player, Callan
    breezes in and with typical disdain says something like "Turn that
    dross off"...

    Problem was, it wasn't dross, it was *this*:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgrKUDQQKsc

    Lenny on drums I believe :)

    ### - if you really saw so many episodes of callen (i always liked that
    series as a kid 'and' probably also saw all of them too...) then you
    also
    know that the majority of their dirty jobs were usually in the form of
    tit-for-tat? that there was usually always a good reason for any job +
    callen often sweated the borderline cases but still did his job
    anyway...

    I doubt I saw all of them and I didn't see his movies which I think
    were not monochrome. However my old man was a Callan nut and I sort
    of liked Callan's personality issues, psychological issues and so on
    but it was waaaay too grown up for me at that age - I had girls,
    parties, peer group stuff and so on on my mind. I was only 12 when
    the series started after all.

    But I recall seeing a lot of them and the old man was gripped by the
    realism of the series and the coldness of Callan himself. I'm going
    to edit what I wrote though, the Hawkwind was playing in Toby's flat - remember Toby, Callan's sidekick who was a real time psychopathic
    killer who enjoyed killing, unlike Callan to whom killing was an
    unfortunate part of the job. Toby had the mod clothes and the beatle haircut, good looking guy but totally whacko killer who was educated
    by Callan and I think Callan killed him at some point with a bit of
    relish too...

    The show puts to shame even modern CIA, FBI, MI6 stuff and definitely
    puts to shame Sean et al as Bond. Mitchell was a script writer and I
    don't think Fleming ever wrote scripts (but I might be wrong) and
    Mitchell was nothing short of genius for creating Callan.

    Fond remembrance. I've managed to find torrents for series 3 and 4
    and the movie and I'm DL'ing as we "speak". Meanwhile, for your
    enjoyment, there's *this*:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8kQyZ76mCk




    that a kind of status quo was often struck between mi5/6 and the 'enemy'
    (usually russia) with certain exceptions; and that most of the spies
    were
    known quantities on both sides but tolerated for whatever various
    reasons,
    sometimes even to deliberately relaying 'disinformation' to the enemy
    (as
    in triple cross/the true eddie chapman story i posted), and that ALL
    nations are/were basically spying on all the other nations, with them
    all
    following each other around and giving each other the slip etc etc heh;
    and then some diplomatic incident would arise and each country would
    publicly expel a dozen or so 'diplomats' (read: spies) from each other's
    country heh tit-for-tat-wise, and that it's all been going on for simply
    decades and will prolly never end!

    so when i say/suggest that russia must have done what they've done
    recently (IF in fact they did it, i mean, because sometimes it's a also
    a
    total set up!) for a reason, then it's prolly not 'that' far from the
    truth? we the public, of course, never hearing of the 'real' reasons
    behind anything except perhaps when black propaganda's involved (the
    deliberate blackening/demonising of an enemy for whatever political
    purposes...) such as, for example and imho, the downing of flight mh17
    that time in ukraine, something which bore all the hallmarks of a black
    propaganda campaign (i even called it about a month beforehand because
    russia was winning and had left them with basically no alternative to
    crimea? a situation itself directly brought about by western
    interference
    in ukraine, to the point that, if it continued, russia was gonna be
    cut-off from their only port to the black sea unless they did something
    about it!)

    so litvinchenko just killed outta the blue so spectacularly that time
    for
    nada? (riiight...) and now these 2 for no apparent reason either??
    (double
    riiiight, although i suspect that when things like nerve gas or
    radiation
    is involved it's all for show and we don't really know 'which' side did
    it
    nor why... but you can bet your bottom dollar it wasn't just for nothing
    nor mere a random event! to kill 2 of their defecting russian agents and
    then blame it on the russians themselves wouldn't be the first time
    something like that's happened either?!)

    one thing i do know for sure though, is that it's almost certain that
    whatever 'public' reasons are provided/given, they're probably not
    correct! and there's another reason altogether that we'll never know!

    that the way 'both' of those incidents (litvenchenko & these latest)
    were
    released to the press involving extremely controversial methods, were
    very
    likely deliberately + singularly 'designed' to 'make noise' AND to raise
    negative public opinion! possibly as justification for what's coming
    next
    in a seemingly then justified response! (might be used as a half-valid
    reason for putting more armed police on the streets for example, for
    suddenly increasing that budget/spending, or shutting ports!)

    that when all these things are usually completely covert anyway, best
    advise is to pay no attention when it's made public like this as we are
    basically being 'told' what to think AND where to look!

    that when they thus command everyone to: eyes-left! i usually tend to
    look
    eyes-right because of knowing/realising things like that...

    and don't bash callen 'coz he wasn't a hawkwind fan lol, the ONLY thing
    the 'complete outsider' callen ever seemed to like; was his hand-painted
    model lead soldiers!

    (outsiders can be a bit quirky like that sometimes innit heh) ;)

    truncated the rest because redundant hehehe...

    Putin has a major problem now that the second guy has been murdered.
    His problem is not what you think it is. His problem is the World Cup
    which will be held in Russia. This is probably the most beloved
    annual sporting event in the world.

    If Putin's actions, cunt that he is, cause the Cup to be boycotted,
    Putin will suffer enormously. Nothing else will sting like a mass
    boycott of the World Cup and if this occurs, Putin will at last be
    hung out to dry by his own people.

    That will be a bad thing happening to a bad person. Karma baby...



    "If the quark masses,or the basic forces, or the cosmological constant
    had been much different, the Universe would have been a sterile
    wasteland.
    It seems that the only reactions are either to embrace a multiverse
    or a designer."

    Tim Maudlin, New York University

    ### - screw all those arseholes thang hehehe; they are all so 'of the
    world' it's untrue? (outsiders manipulating the insiders? boring!:)

    but was fairly fascinated by all that (genre) as a kid; james bond (the
    early movies) figuring quite high on my list back then, even to owning a
    toy model DB5 with ejector seat from the movie goldfinger lol; james bond
    was cool when you were only 10 or 11 ;)

    + other good spy films like this one (harry palmer played by micheal
    caine) which is free online here:

    http://www.veoh.com/watch/v49376223PRJDzTYb

    and perforce callen, in which even the theme music is similar to ipcress
    hehehe

    the classic: 'the spy who came in from the cold' (richard burton):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4QGhyZXvbo (trailer only)

    all great stuff if ya loves a drop of intrigue in yer porridge heh ;)

    one thing's for sure though; we'll likely never know what all the current bluster is really all about? but open assassinations (like these) are
    nearly always for 'show' (i.e., deliberately wasn't made to look like an accident for example...) so who knows what's really going on behind the
    scenes in the shadowy, covert world of the uber-spy (dun-dun-duuun!)
    hehehe...

    but it's real enough! ;)

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