• Re: who's calling ?

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Monday, February 12, 2018 00:49:38
    From: slider@anashram.com

    i think i mentioned years ago maybe about
    how easy it was for me to apprehend auditory
    conversations before anything visual came
    into play. It was a snap to do that. It
    just happened whenever i relaxed enough.
    But it never developed into anything visual.
    i would pull myself out of it like waking
    up and it would stop. I thought i was
    catching cell phone conversations or something.
    I never knew what they were about. Do you
    get auditory stuff when your visions come around?
    Or is it just a cinema show ?

    ### - well maybe that's how you've been doing it then?

    letting audio sounds rather than images pull ya into ordinary sleep?

    never gets audio here until the WILD begins, instead get vague shapes
    followed by vague images (one turned into an incredibly clear face the
    other day and startled me...) then a scene of sorts, looked closely at a
    tree's branches and was pulled straight in!

    hearing sounds is defo indicating an altered state tho, so maybe you could
    use that either to WILD directly (dunno if that'd work...) or just using
    audio to get to the place where images can also then be seen and then go
    from there...

    lots of peeps have difficulty getting to see any hypnagogia at first, and
    it's always been something to do with either not being relaxed enough (as
    in not feeling any body changes) and/or something to do with how they hold their eyes wrongly by focusing too close making the eyes ache and jump
    about, or chasing after any patterns/images with their eyes, something
    which dispels the images altogether and then they have to start over...)

    i still bet on the second method of relaxing changing it for you, you need
    to go just a little farther out to where the images appear/can be viewed,
    so go all-out for getting completely relaxed (which you'll know you've
    reached by then experiencing some bodily sensations) + later it'll prolly
    all settle down to something less extreme anyway...

    just be determined to 'break through' the impasse and somehow you'll
    'make' it happen

    i.e., as you're first laying there be determined just before you start
    (intend it as jer would say heh:) and then start the process and see what happens...

    :)

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  • From wilddild@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, February 11, 2018 15:25:27
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    i think i mentioned years ago maybe about
    how easy it was for me to apprehend auditory
    conversations before anything visual came
    into play. It was a snap to do that. It
    just happened whenever i relaxed enough.
    But it never developed into anything visual.
    i would pull myself out of it like waking
    up and it would stop. I thought i was
    catching cell phone conversations or something.
    I never knew what they were about. Do you
    get auditory stuff when your visions come around?
    Or is it just a cinema show ?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)