• Re: Trump Knows Not What He Does

    From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Sunday, August 13, 2017 16:28:13
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 13:02:32 -0700 (PDT), "Jeremy H. Denisovan" <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    [Sorry about the length of this article, but if you want to know
    what is really going on, it takes some real effort to find out.]


    I beg to differ and so does Vladimir Putin. I think I may have posted
    this very interesting insight by President Putin but because I'm
    unsure I'll post it in any case. Oliver Stone is interviewing...

    "OS: Well, I’d like to go there tomorrow and the next day. I mean it’s almost impossible to tell what’s going on in the world unless you look
    below the surface.

    VP: You know, it’s sufficient just to closely monitor what’s going on
    in the world always and then you’ll understand the logic behind what
    is going on. Why do ordinary people often lose touch with what is
    going on? Why do they consider these things complicated? Why do they
    think that something is concealed from their eyes? This is simply
    because ordinary people live their lives. On an everyday basis they go
    to work and earn money, and they are not following international
    affairs. That’s why ordinary people are so easy to manipulate, to be
    misled. But if they were to follow what’s going on in the world on an everyday basis, then despite the fact that some part of diplomacy is
    always conducted behind closed doors, it’s still going to be easier to understand what’s going on and you’ll be able to grasp the logic
    behind world developments. And you can achieve it even without having
    access to secret documents."

    Putin's right. It's all out there and the best way to look at what's
    happening and make a probably correct assessment is to keep an eye on
    reports (not the Guardian). I like to use a news aggregator, there
    are a lot around and you can read a dozen or more reports on an event
    and use your intellect to figure out the most probably scenario,
    explanation, conclusion and prediction.

    I disagree with you therefore. It is very little effort to do what
    Vladimir Putin recommends.



    Why Is Donald Trump Still So Horribly Witless About the World?

    Article In The New Yorker
    By Robin Wright
    August 4, 2017

    Max Boot, a lifelong conservative who advised three Republican Presidential candidates on foreign policy, keeps a folder labelled “Trump Stupidity File” on his computer. It’s next to his “Trump Lies” file. “Not sure which is larger at this
    point,” he told me this week. “It’s neck-and-neck.”

    Six months into the Trump era, foreign-policy officials from eight past Administrations told me they are aghast that the President is still so witless about the world. “He seems as clueless today as he was on January 20th,” Boot, who is now a senior
    fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said. Trump’s painful public gaffes,
    they warn, indicate that he’s not reading, retaining, or listening to his Presidential briefings. And the newbie excuse no longer flies.

    “Trump has an appalling ignorance of the current world, of history, of previous American engagement, of what former Presidents thought and did,” Geoffrey Kemp, who worked at the Pentagon during the Ford Administration and at
    the National Security
    Council during the Reagan Administration, reflected. “He has an almost studious
    rejection of the type of in-depth knowledge that virtually all of his predecessors eventually gained or had views on.”
    Criticism of Donald Trump among Democrats who served in senior national-security positions is predictable and rife. But Republicans—who are historically ambitious on foreign policy—are particularly pained by the President’s missteps and
    misstatements. So are former senior intelligence officials who have avoided publicly
    criticizing Presidents until now.

    “The President has little understanding of the context”—of what’s happening in the world—“and even less interest in hearing the people who want to deliver it,” Michael Hayden, a retired four-star general and former director of both the C.I.
    A. and the National Security Agency, told me. “He’s impatient, decision-oriented, and prone
    to action. It’s all about the present tense. When he asks, ‘What the hell’s going on in Iraq?’ people around him have learned not to say, ‘Well, in 632 . . . ’ ” (That was the year when the Prophet Muhammad died, prompting the beginning of
    the Sunni-Shiite split.*)

    “He just doesn’t have an interest in the world,” Hayden said.

    I asked top Republican and intelligence officials from eight Administrations what they thought was the one thing the President needs to grasp to succeed on the world stage. Their various replies: embrace the fact that the Russians are not America’s
    friends. Don’t further alienate the Europeans, who are our friends. Encourage
    human
    rights—a founding principle of American identity—and don’t make priority visits to governments that curtail them, such as Poland and Saudi Arabia. Understand that North Korea’s nuclear program can’t be outsourced to China,
    which can’t or won
    t singlehandedly fix the problem anyway, and realize that military options are
    limited.
    Pulling out of innovative trade deals, like the Trans-Pacific Partnership, will
    boost China’s economy and secure its global influence—to America’s disadvantage. Stop bullying his counterparts. And put the Russia case behind him by coöperating with
    the investigation rather than trying to discredit it.

    Trump’s latest blunder was made during an appearance in the Rose Garden with
    Lebanon’s Prime Minister, Saad Hariri, on July 25th. “Lebanon is on the front lines in the fight against isis, Al Qaeda, and Hezbollah,” Trump pronounced. He got the
    basics really wrong. Hezbollah is actually part of the Lebanese government—and has been
    for a quarter century—with seats in parliament and Cabinet posts. Lebanon’s
    Christian President, Michel Aoun, has been allied with Hezbollah for a decade. As Trump spoke, Hezbollah’s militia and the Lebanese Army were fighting isis and an Al Qaeda
    affiliate occupying a chunk of eastern Lebanon along its border with Syria. They won.

    The list of other Trump blunders is long. In March, he charged that Germany owed “vast sums” to the United States for Nato. It doesn’t. No Nato member pays the United States—and never has—so none is in arrears. In an interview with the Wall
    Street Journal, in April, Trump claimed that Korea “actually used to be part of China.” Not
    true. After he arrived in Israel from Saudi Arabia, in May, Trump said that he had just come from the Middle East. (Did he even look at a map?) During his trip to France, in July, the President confused Napoleon Bonaparte, the diminutive emperor who
    invaded Russia and Egypt, with Napoleon III, who was France’s first popularly elected President, oversaw the design of modern Paris, and is still the longest-serving head of state since the French Revolution (albeit partly as an emperor, too). And that’s before delving into his demeaning tweets about other world leaders and
    flashpoints.

    “The sheer scale of his lack of knowledge is what has astounded me—and I had low expectations to begin with,” David Gordon, the director of the State Department’s policy-planning staff under Condoleezza Rice, during the Bush Administration, told
    me.

    Trump’s White House has also flubbed basics. It misspelled the name of Britain’s Prime Minister three times in its official schedule of her January visit. After it dropped the “H” in Theresa May, several British papers noted that Teresa May is a
    soft-porn actress best known for her films “Leather Lust” and “Whitehouse: The Sex
    Video.” In a statement last month, the White House called Xi Jinping the President of the “Republic of China”—which is the island of Taiwan—rather than the leader of the People’s Republic, the Communist mainland. The two nations have been
    epic rivals in Asia for more than half a century. The White House also misidentified Shinzo
    Abe as the President of Japan—he’s the Prime Minister—and called the Prime Minister of Canada “Joe” instead of Justin Trudeau.

    Trump’s policy mistakes, large and small, are taking a toll. “American leadership in the world—how do I phrase this, it’s so obvious, but apparently not to him—is critical to our success, and it depends eighty per cent on the credibility of
    the President’s word,” John McLaughlin, who worked at the C.I.A. under seven Presidents,
    from Richard Nixon to George W. Bush, and ended up as the intelligence agency’s acting director, told me. “Trump thinks having a piece of chocolate cake at Mar-a-Lago bought him a relationship with Xi Jinping. He came
    in as the least prepared
    President we’ve had on foreign policy," McLaughlin added. “Our leadership in the world is
    slipping away. It’s slipping through our hands.”

    And a world in dramatic flux compounds the stakes. Hayden cited the meltdown in the world order that has prevailed since the Second World War; the changing nature of the state and its power; China’s growing military and economic power; and rogue
    nations seeking nuclear weapons, among others. “Yet the most disruptive force
    in the
    world today is the United States of America,” the former C.I.A. director said.

    The closest similarity to the Trump era was the brief Warren G. Harding Administration, in the nineteen-twenties, Philip Zelikow, who worked for the Reagan and two Bush Administrations, and who was the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, told me.
    Harding, who died, of a heart attack, after twenty-eight months in office, was praised because he stood aside and let his Secretary of State, Charles Evans Hughes, lead the way. Hughes had already been governor of New York, a Supreme Court Justice, and the Republican Presidential nominee in 1916, losing narrowly
    to Woodrow Wilson,
    who preceded Harding.

    Under Trump, the White House has seized control of key foreign-policy issues. The President’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, a real-estate developer, has been charged with brokering Middle East peace, navigating U.S.-China relations, and the Mexico
    portfolio. In April, Kushner travelled to Iraq to help chart policy against isis.
    Washington scuttlebutt is consumed with tales of how Trump has stymied his own Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, the former C.E.O. of ExxonMobil.

    “The national-security system of the United States has been tested over a period of seventy years,” John Negroponte, the first director of National Intelligence and a former U.N. Ambassador, told me. “President Trump disregards the system at his
    peril.”

    Trump’s contempt for the U.S. intelligence community has also sparked alarm.
    “I wish the President would rely more on, and trust more, the intelligence agencies and the work that is produced, sometimes at great risk to individuals around the world,
    to inform the Commander-in-Chief,” Mitchell Reiss, who was the chief of the State
    Department’s policy-planning team under Secretary of State Colin Powell, told
    me.

    Republican critics are divided on whether Trump can grow into the job. “Trump is completely irredeemable,” Eliot A. Cohen, who was a counsellor to
    Condoleezza Rice at the State Department, told me. “He has a feral instinct for self-survival, but
    he’s unteachable. The ban on Muslims coming into the country and building a wall, and
    having the Mexicans pay for it, that was all you needed to know about this guy on foreign affairs. This is a man who is idiotic and bigoted and ignorant of the law.” Cohen was a ringleader of an open letter warning, during the campaign, that Trump’s
    foreign policy was “wildly inconsistent and unmoored.”

    But other Republicans from earlier Administrations still hold out hope. “Whenever Trump begins to learn about an issue—the Middle East conflict or North Korea—he expresses such surprise that it could be so complicated, after
    saying it wasn’t
    that difficult,” Gordon, from the Bush Administration, said. “The good news, when he says
    that, is it means he has a little bit of knowledge.” So far, however, the learning curve has been pitifully—and dangerously—slow.

    ***

    What else has been dangerously slow under Trump? Well, for example...

    As of August 4, when the Senate left town for its August recess,
    Trump had nominated 277 people for key posts, had only 124 confirmed,
    and had withdrawn eight of his nominations... The Partnership for
    Public Service has identified 577 executive branch positions as
    being particularly essential — and Trump has only successfully
    filled about one-fifth of them. (Source: CNN)

    So... of EXECUTIVE BRANCH key positions, almost 80% are still unfilled.

    The last 3 presidents all had far more nominations and confirmations
    at this point in their presidencies than Trump does. And yet...
    Trump's already on a 17-day vacation. We are totally up shit creek
    unless we can somehow get rid of this guy.

    “It’s always been slow, but Trump is running at a subglacial speed”
    - Paul C. Light, a professor at New York University who specializes
    in political appointments.

    ***

    And how are things in our own government agencies? Well, for example...

    State Department:
    Out of the 26 top positions, Trump has 2 confirmed. That's 8%.
    More than 80% of these top positions still have no nominee.

    Agriculture:
    Out of 12 top positions, Trump has one confirmation. Again, 8%.
    And 75% of the top positions still have no nominee.

    Energy:
    Out of 12 top positions, one confirmation. Again, 8%.
    And 66% of the top positions have no nominee.

    Education:
    One confirmation out of 11 top positions. 9%
    And 82% of the positions have no nominee.

    Labor:
    The exact same stats as in Education.

    Environmental Protection:
    The exact same stats as in Education.

    (Source: NY Times)

    ***

    Right now NO major department of the US government has more than
    1/3 of its top positions confirmed. Another way to say it is
    that EVERY major department of the US government still has its
    top positions more than 2/3 EMPTY. By "major", I mean departments
    with at least 4 top positions. The major Department with the most >confirmations is Defense, with only 28% of top positions confirmed.
    We are so fucked.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to Putin on Sunday, August 13, 2017 12:40:39
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    I saw that Stone interview with Putin.

    Putin says:
    "just to closely monitor what’s going on in the world always"

    Oh, is that all? :)

    So tell me, what is going on in Venezuela right now?
    I doubt if anyone here knows much.

    If I hadn't made a big deal out of Qatar,
    I doubt anyone here would have a clue about that either.

    Are you all fully up on the scene in South Sudan?

    How about in Chad, Cameroon and Niger, with Boko Haram?

    Or with the violence in Burundi? Are you informed?

    How about the state and PKK militant conflict in Turkey?

    Do you know a lot about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen?

    And what's up in the Democratic Republic of Congo?

    Or in, say, Myanmar?

    ***

    I myself have only rather superficial knowledge of any of that.
    And those are just trouble spots. When it comes to interesting
    more 'peaceful' developments, most of us are even further out
    of the loop. Could anyone tell me what's been happening lately
    in Bolivia or Peru? How about in Mongolia? Or India?

    There's a campaign in India to bring electricity to thousands
    of villages that never had it before. I didn't know that.

    Nigeria recently had one of its first peaceful and credible
    democratic elections. I was unaware of that too.

    Teen pregancies are at record lows in both the US and the UK.
    I learned that today because I went looking.

    Mother to child HIV transmission has been reduced to 0 in Cuba.
    They're the first nation to do that.

    Italy just changed its laws to require supermarkets to give
    away their unused food to the needy.

    etc.

    Those are a few things I just learned today.
    Obviously, I won't be able to list the hundreds of significant
    world events I still know nothing about. :)

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to david.j.worrell@gmail.com on Sunday, August 13, 2017 22:49:18
    From: slider@nanashram.com

    On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:40:39 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan <david.j.worrell@gmail.com> wrote:

    I saw that Stone interview with Putin.

    Putin says:
    "just to closely monitor what’s going on in the world always"

    Oh, is that all? :)

    ### - oooh a trivia quiz? goody :)


    So tell me, what is going on in Venezuela right now?
    I doubt if anyone here knows much.

    ### - been watching this one...

    the son of the president there is threatening to seize the white house
    with rifles (haha) if trump sends the US military to his nation.

    trump said (last week) he could not rule out the possibility of a military intervention in Venezuela?


    If I hadn't made a big deal out of Qatar,
    I doubt anyone here would have a clue about that either.

    ### - after buying 110 billion bucks worth of arms from the US, saudi's
    been bombing the shit outta them for, erm, supporting terrorism... (which
    is good coming from saudi lol)


    Are you all fully up on the scene in South Sudan?

    ### - nope, not my cup of tea that one heh... pass



    How about in Chad, Cameroon and Niger, with Boko Haram?

    ### - another militant islamist group with a bad habit of cutting people's
    arms off + abducting women and schoolgirls and probably selling them!
    (cunts)



    Or with the violence in Burundi? Are you informed?

    ### - opposition militias there are creating havoc with the populace
    fleeing to tanzania after failed coup attempts



    How about the state and PKK militant conflict in Turkey?

    ### - nutcase erdogan's thorn in his side, the ppk (kurdistan workers
    party) have recently been launching attacks against turkish businesses and gatherings in the EU, there was a nasty demo here in n.london recently
    (last month) in which several ppk people were arrested


    Do you know a lot about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen?

    ### - yemen i reported on recently here re them firing on US warships,
    massive humanitarian crisis there currently caused by bombing backed by
    saudi and a severe outbreak of cholera



    And what's up in the Democratic Republic of Congo?

    ### - dunno, haven't been following them either recently...


    Or in, say, Myanmar?

    ### - that's the area of the independence hero Aung San Suu Kyi (had to
    look up that spelling heh) who was locked away under house arrest for
    decades (i like her)



    ***

    I myself have only rather superficial knowledge of any of that.
    And those are just trouble spots. When it comes to interesting
    more 'peaceful' developments, most of us are even further out
    of the loop. Could anyone tell me what's been happening lately
    in Bolivia or Peru? How about in Mongolia? Or India?

    ### - india is currently having a serious beef with china that no one's
    really even talking about

    peru has some daft shit going on about alien babies and mummies hah
    (99.999% hoax)

    mongolia = genghis khan country (if you know your history...)

    bolivia was the stamping ground of che guevara and the (fictional?)
    shootout of butch cassidy and the sundance kid...




    There's a campaign in India to bring electricity to thousands
    of villages that never had it before. I didn't know that.

    Nigeria recently had one of its first peaceful and credible
    democratic elections. I was unaware of that too.

    Teen pregancies are at record lows in both the US and the UK.
    I learned that today because I went looking.

    Mother to child HIV transmission has been reduced to 0 in Cuba.
    They're the first nation to do that.

    Italy just changed its laws to require supermarkets to give
    away their unused food to the needy.

    etc.

    Those are a few things I just learned today.
    Obviously, I won't be able to list the hundreds of significant
    world events I still know nothing about. :)

    ### - glad to see that you're having a little 'look around' outside of
    your own country?

    there's no doubt about it, wallyworld is in one helluva mess!

    bad news and suffering virtually everywhere!

    basically: same as it ever was! :)

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to slider on Monday, August 14, 2017 12:02:11
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    On Sunday, August 13, 2017 at 2:49:25 PM UTC-7, slider wrote:
    On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 20:40:39 +0100, Jeremy H. Denisovan
    wrote:

    I saw that Stone interview with Putin.

    Putin says:
    "just to closely monitor what’s going on in the world always"

    Oh, is that all? :)

    ### - oooh a trivia quiz? goody :)


    So tell me, what is going on in Venezuela right now?
    I doubt if anyone here knows much.

    ### - been watching this one...

    the son of the president there is threatening to seize the white house
    with rifles (haha) if trump sends the US military to his nation.

    trump said (last week) he could not rule out the possibility of a military intervention in Venezuela?


    If I hadn't made a big deal out of Qatar,
    I doubt anyone here would have a clue about that either.

    ### - after buying 110 billion bucks worth of arms from the US, saudi's been bombing the shit outta them for, erm, supporting terrorism... (which is good coming from saudi lol)


    Are you all fully up on the scene in South Sudan?

    ### - nope, not my cup of tea that one heh... pass



    How about in Chad, Cameroon and Niger, with Boko Haram?

    ### - another militant islamist group with a bad habit of cutting people's arms off + abducting women and schoolgirls and probably selling them! (cunts)



    Or with the violence in Burundi? Are you informed?

    ### - opposition militias there are creating havoc with the populace fleeing to tanzania after failed coup attempts



    How about the state and PKK militant conflict in Turkey?

    ### - nutcase erdogan's thorn in his side, the ppk (kurdistan workers party) have recently been launching attacks against turkish businesses and gatherings in the EU, there was a nasty demo here in n.london recently (last month) in which several ppk people were arrested


    Do you know a lot about the humanitarian crisis in Yemen?

    ### - yemen i reported on recently here re them firing on US warships, massive humanitarian crisis there currently caused by bombing backed by saudi and a severe outbreak of cholera



    And what's up in the Democratic Republic of Congo?

    ### - dunno, haven't been following them either recently...


    Or in, say, Myanmar?

    ### - that's the area of the independence hero Aung San Suu Kyi (had to look up that spelling heh) who was locked away under house arrest for decades (i like her)



    ***

    I myself have only rather superficial knowledge of any of that.
    And those are just trouble spots. When it comes to interesting
    more 'peaceful' developments, most of us are even further out
    of the loop. Could anyone tell me what's been happening lately
    in Bolivia or Peru? How about in Mongolia? Or India?

    ### - india is currently having a serious beef with china that no one's really even talking about

    peru has some daft shit going on about alien babies and mummies hah (99.999% hoax)

    mongolia = genghis khan country (if you know your history...)

    bolivia was the stamping ground of che guevara and the (fictional?) shootout of butch cassidy and the sundance kid...




    There's a campaign in India to bring electricity to thousands
    of villages that never had it before. I didn't know that.

    Nigeria recently had one of its first peaceful and credible
    democratic elections. I was unaware of that too.

    Teen pregancies are at record lows in both the US and the UK.
    I learned that today because I went looking.

    Mother to child HIV transmission has been reduced to 0 in Cuba.
    They're the first nation to do that.

    Italy just changed its laws to require supermarkets to give
    away their unused food to the needy.

    etc.

    Those are a few things I just learned today.
    Obviously, I won't be able to list the hundreds of significant
    world events I still know nothing about. :)

    ### - glad to see that you're having a little 'look around' outside of
    your own country?

    there's no doubt about it, wallyworld is in one helluva mess!

    bad news and suffering virtually everywhere!

    basically: same as it ever was! :)

    Well, kind of. The last 5 things I listed were all good things.
    There are lots of those too.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 11, 2017 13:02:32
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    [Sorry about the length of this article, but if you want to know
    what is really going on, it takes some real effort to find out.]

    Why Is Donald Trump Still So Horribly Witless About the World?

    Article In The New Yorker
    By Robin Wright
    August 4, 2017

    Max Boot, a lifelong conservative who advised three Republican Presidential candidates on foreign policy, keeps a folder labelled “Trump Stupidity File” on his computer. It’s next to his “Trump Lies” file. “Not sure which is larger at this
    point,” he told me this week. “It’s neck-and-neck.”

    Six months into the Trump era, foreign-policy officials from eight past Administrations told me they are aghast that the President is still so witless about the world. “He seems as clueless today as he was on January 20th,” Boot, who is now a senior
    fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations, said. Trump’s painful public gaffes, they warn, indicate that he’s not reading, retaining, or listening to
    his Presidential briefings. And the newbie excuse no longer flies.

    “Trump has an appalling ignorance of the current world, of history, of previous American engagement, of what former Presidents thought and did,” Geoffrey Kemp, who worked at the Pentagon during the Ford Administration and at
    the National Security
    Council during the Reagan Administration, reflected. “He has an almost studious rejection of the type of in-depth knowledge that virtually all of his predecessors eventually gained or had views on.”
    Criticism of Donald Trump among Democrats who served in senior national-security positions is predictable and rife. But Republicans—who are historically ambitious on foreign policy—are particularly pained by the President’s missteps and
    misstatements. So are former senior intelligence officials who have avoided publicly criticizing Presidents until now.

    “The President has little understanding of the context”—of what’s happening in the world—“and even less interest in hearing the people who want to deliver it,” Michael Hayden, a retired four-star general and former director of both the C.I.
    A. and the National Security Agency, told me. “He’s impatient, decision-oriented, and prone to action. It’s all about the present tense. When he asks, ‘What the hell’s going on in Iraq?’ people around him have learned not to say, ‘Well, in
    632 . . . ’ ” (That was the year when the Prophet Muhammad died, prompting the beginning of the Sunni-Shiite split.*)

    “He just doesn’t have an interest in the world,” Hayden said.

    I asked top Republican and intelligence officials from eight Administrations what they thought was the one thing the President needs to grasp to succeed on the world stage. Their various replies: embrace the fact that the Russians are not America’s
    friends. Don’t further alienate the Europeans, who are our friends. Encourage
    human rights—a founding principle of American identity—and don’t make priority visits to governments that curtail them, such as Poland and Saudi Arabia. Understand that
    North Korea’s nuclear program can’t be outsourced to China, which can’t or won’t singlehandedly fix the problem anyway, and realize that military options are limited. Pulling out of innovative trade deals, like the Trans-Pacific Partnership, will
    boost China’s economy and secure its global influence—to America’s disadvantage. Stop bullying his counterparts. And put the Russia case behind him by coöperating with the investigation rather than trying to discredit it.

    Trump’s latest blunder was made during an appearance in the Rose Garden with Lebanon’s Prime Minister, Saad Hariri, on July 25th. “Lebanon is on the front lines in the fight against isis, Al Qaeda, and Hezbollah,” Trump pronounced. He got the
    basics really wrong. Hezbollah is actually part of the Lebanese government—and has been for a quarter century—with seats in parliament and Cabinet posts. Lebanon’s Christian President, Michel Aoun, has been allied with Hezbollah for a decade. As
    Trump spoke, Hezbollah’s militia and the Lebanese Army were fighting isis and
    an Al Qaeda affiliate occupying a chunk of eastern Lebanon along its border with Syria. They won.

    The list of other Trump blunders is long. In March, he charged that Germany owed “vast sums” to the United States for Nato. It doesn’t. No Nato member pays the United States—and never has—so none is in arrears. In an interview with the Wall
    Street Journal, in April, Trump claimed that Korea “actually used to be part of China.” Not true. After he arrived in Israel from Saudi Arabia, in May, Trump said that he had just come from the Middle East. (Did he even look at a map?) During his
    trip to France, in July, the President confused Napoleon Bonaparte, the diminutive emperor who invaded Russia and Egypt, with Napoleon III, who was France’s first popularly elected President, oversaw the design of modern Paris, and is still the longest-
    serving head of state since the French Revolution (albeit partly as an emperor,
    too). And that’s before delving into his demeaning tweets about other world leaders and flashpoints.

    “The sheer scale of his lack of knowledge is what has astounded me—and I had low expectations to begin with,” David Gordon, the director of the State Department’s policy-planning staff under Condoleezza Rice, during the Bush Administration, told
    me.

    Trump’s White House has also flubbed basics. It misspelled the name of Britain’s Prime Minister three times in its official schedule of her January visit. After it dropped the “H” in Theresa May, several British papers noted that Teresa May is a
    soft-porn actress best known for her films “Leather Lust” and “Whitehouse: The Sex Video.” In a statement last month, the White House called Xi Jinping the President of the “Republic of China”—which is the island of Taiwan—rather than the
    leader of the People’s Republic, the Communist mainland. The two nations have
    been epic rivals in Asia for more than half a century. The White House also misidentified Shinzo Abe as the President of Japan—he’s the Prime Minister—and called the
    Prime Minister of Canada “Joe” instead of Justin Trudeau.

    Trump’s policy mistakes, large and small, are taking a toll. “American leadership in the world—how do I phrase this, it’s so obvious, but apparently not to him—is critical to our success, and it depends eighty per cent on the credibility of the
    President’s word,” John McLaughlin, who worked at the C.I.A. under seven Presidents, from Richard Nixon to George W. Bush, and ended up as the intelligence agency’s acting director, told me. “Trump thinks having a piece of chocolate cake at Mar-a-
    Lago bought him a relationship with Xi Jinping. He came in as the least prepared President we’ve had on foreign policy," McLaughlin added. “Our leadership in the world is slipping away. It’s slipping through our hands.”

    And a world in dramatic flux compounds the stakes. Hayden cited the meltdown in
    the world order that has prevailed since the Second World War; the changing nature of the state and its power; China’s growing military and economic power; and rogue
    nations seeking nuclear weapons, among others. “Yet the most disruptive force
    in the world today is the United States of America,” the former C.I.A. director said.

    The closest similarity to the Trump era was the brief Warren G. Harding Administration, in the nineteen-twenties, Philip Zelikow, who worked for the Reagan and two Bush Administrations, and who was the executive director of the 9/11 Commission, told me.
    Harding, who died, of a heart attack, after twenty-eight months in office, was praised because he stood aside and let his Secretary of State, Charles Evans Hughes, lead the way. Hughes had already been governor of New York, a Supreme Court Justice, and
    the Republican Presidential nominee in 1916, losing narrowly to Woodrow Wilson,
    who preceded Harding.

    Under Trump, the White House has seized control of key foreign-policy issues. The President’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, a real-estate developer, has been charged with brokering Middle East peace, navigating U.S.-China relations, and the Mexico
    portfolio. In April, Kushner travelled to Iraq to help chart policy against isis. Washington scuttlebutt is consumed with tales of how Trump has stymied his own Secretary of State, Rex Tillerson, the former C.E.O. of ExxonMobil.

    “The national-security system of the United States has been tested over a period of seventy years,” John Negroponte, the first director of National Intelligence and a former U.N. Ambassador, told me. “President Trump disregards the system at his
    peril.”

    Trump’s contempt for the U.S. intelligence community has also sparked alarm. “I wish the President would rely more on, and trust more, the intelligence agencies and the work that is produced, sometimes at great risk to individuals around the world,
    to inform the Commander-in-Chief,” Mitchell Reiss, who was the chief of the State Department’s policy-planning team under Secretary of State Colin Powell, told me.

    Republican critics are divided on whether Trump can grow into the job. “Trump
    is completely irredeemable,” Eliot A. Cohen, who was a counsellor to Condoleezza Rice at the State Department, told me. “He has a feral instinct for self-survival, but he
    s unteachable. The ban on Muslims coming into the country and building a wall, and having the Mexicans pay for it, that was all you needed to know about
    this guy on foreign affairs. This is a man who is idiotic and bigoted and ignorant of the law.”
    Cohen was a ringleader of an open letter warning, during the campaign, that Trump’s foreign policy was “wildly inconsistent and unmoored.”

    But other Republicans from earlier Administrations still hold out hope. “Whenever Trump begins to learn about an issue—the Middle East conflict or North Korea—he expresses such surprise that it could be so complicated, after
    saying it wasn’t that
    difficult,” Gordon, from the Bush Administration, said. “The good news, when he says that, is it means he has a little bit of knowledge.” So far, however, the learning curve has been pitifully—and dangerously—slow.

    ***

    What else has been dangerously slow under Trump? Well, for example...

    As of August 4, when the Senate left town for its August recess,
    Trump had nominated 277 people for key posts, had only 124 confirmed,
    and had withdrawn eight of his nominations... The Partnership for
    Public Service has identified 577 executive branch positions as
    being particularly essential — and Trump has only successfully
    filled about one-fifth of them. (Source: CNN)

    So... of EXECUTIVE BRANCH key positions, almost 80% are still unfilled.

    The last 3 presidents all had far more nominations and confirmations
    at this point in their presidencies than Trump does. And yet...
    Trump's already on a 17-day vacation. We are totally up shit creek
    unless we can somehow get rid of this guy.

    “It’s always been slow, but Trump is running at a subglacial speed”
    - Paul C. Light, a professor at New York University who specializes
    in political appointments.

    ***

    And how are things in our own government agencies? Well, for example...

    State Department:
    Out of the 26 top positions, Trump has 2 confirmed. That's 8%.
    More than 80% of these top positions still have no nominee.

    Agriculture:
    Out of 12 top positions, Trump has one confirmation. Again, 8%.
    And 75% of the top positions still have no nominee.

    Energy:
    Out of 12 top positions, one confirmation. Again, 8%.
    And 66% of the top positions have no nominee.

    Education:
    One confirmation out of 11 top positions. 9%
    And 82% of the positions have no nominee.

    Labor:
    The exact same stats as in Education.

    Environmental Protection:
    The exact same stats as in Education.

    (Source: NY Times)

    ***

    Right now NO major department of the US government has more than
    1/3 of its top positions confirmed. Another way to say it is
    that EVERY major department of the US government still has its
    top positions more than 2/3 EMPTY. By "major", I mean departments
    with at least 4 top positions. The major Department with the most
    confirmations is Defense, with only 28% of top positions confirmed.
    We are so fucked.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 11, 2017 23:41:29
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    McConnell knows damn well Trump knows not what he does.
    So Trump has to have a little war with McConnell now.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZVuJeoyhkQ

    "You suck, eagle.
    I believe in you!"

    "Where is repeal and replace?"
    "I don't know, maybe check behind that wall you didn't build."

    Where repeal and replace really is:
    in the trash where it's always belonged.
    Now let's see if you fools have the balls or the insight
    to do a real bill. I doubt it...

    ***

    This may be the song I'm singing as I die in "fire and fury":

    Cuz I'm a bad-ass president
    and I've got a really hot wife.
    Here's me sitting in a great big truck,
    only driving in an even bigger truck.

    Here's a shot of me with all my friends.
    Can you believe how many are black?
    I'll build the wall with my own bare hands!
    God bless the President!

    Totally worth dying for, right?

    ***

    Trump has 2 ideas that still sound good to lots of people:

    1) Tax reform. Really just: lower taxes bigly on the rich.
    2) Infrastructure repair. Really just: privatize all infrastructure.

    Both things would be really good for *really rich people*,
    for awhile at least - and really bad for everyone else.

    And those are the two BEST ideas Trump has. The best.
    After those two ideas bite the dust, the rest of his ideas
    pretty much follow those two right on down into hell.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:34:40
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Jimmy Kimmel has a plan for what to do with Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t16xYMSyMXU

    The whole press conference:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGKbFA7HW-U

    Colbert's take:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4sCA3QFqT8

    My rep, Kamala Harris, simply said: hey, it was easy to tell who's
    on the wrong side because they were the ones with the swastikas.

    (Well, that side also killed someone; another way to tell.)

    ***

    And what do you think about all this, Andy?

    Nostalgic for the days when Nazis were on the History Channel
    and not in the White House.

    Far more objectionable than Donald Trump's enabling of Nazis
    is congressional Republicans' enabling of Donald Trump.

    Bar Officially Cannot Be Lowered

    There are "many sides" to Donald J. Trump. There is the racist side
    and the moronic side and the unfit-to-be-President side.
    #manysides

    When the top three trending stories on Google News are North Korea,
    Donald Trump, and Nazis, it's time to move to another planet.

    Here's an idea for a march: the millions of Americans who do
    not consider themselves white supremacists march on Washington
    to demand that the Republicans get the 25th Amendment rolling.

    George Washington to Trump: 'Don't Drag Me Into This, You Fucker'

    FDR to Trump: 'The President's Job is to Fight Nazis, You Fucker'

    Experts Warn of Damage Caused by Looking Directly
    at Eclipse of American Democracy

    Americans Demand That Offensive Symbol of Racism
    Be Removed from Public Property (Donald J. Trump)

    “This symbol is a part of America’s dark, ugly past,”
    another protester said, echoing the opinions of many.
    “It has no business being here in 2017.”

    Down the Toilet:
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/etfaxpgjbyomyzl/toilet.gif?dl=0

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  • From boredfuck@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 17, 2017 17:20:15
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    whatever you do in the coming months on this earth
    just don't turn your back to traffic. Why? Because
    there are douchers that can hurt you if you let them.
    Face traffic don't turn your back ever on the flow of
    traffic. We learned this in the Scouts back in the
    fiftys. you walk towards oncoming traffic. Stuff
    a 10 year old knows. when you think about it alkada
    come arm millions of drivers all over the world with
    an automobile. They could do some serious damage
    with very little practice. here's our next freedom
    to go to shit, loss of driving priviledges. Wonderful.
    Bad enough one has to jack around at the airport. When
    is our king and his 535 other jackoffs in Washington going
    to actually do something to cut these pricks down?
    Ticky toc. Waiting for what? Smell the coffee gobsocks.

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 18, 2017 12:47:36
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    Steve Bannon lasts only 7 months in the Trump administration. Bam!

    http://images.dailykos.com/images/331453/story_image/Trump-Bannon.jpg?1479942185

    Yet that leaves McMaster and Kelly as Trump's prominent advisers.
    Both retired military leaders. Uh oh...

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  • From Jeremy H. Denisovan@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 18, 2017 13:08:18
    From: david.j.worrell@gmail.com

    The Week When President Trump Resigned
    by Frank Bruni

    AUG. 18, 2017

    As the worst week in a cursed presidency wound down, I spotted more and more forecasts that Donald Trump would resign, including from Tony Schwartz, who wrote “The Art of the Deal” for Trump and presumably understands his tortured psyche.

    They struck me not as wishful or fantastical.

    They struck me as late.

    Trump resigned the presidency already — if we regard the job as one of moral stewardship, if we assume that an iota of civic concern must joust with self-regard, if we expect a president’s interest in legislation to rise above
    vacuous theatrics, if
    we consider a certain baseline of diplomatic etiquette to be part of the equation.

    By those measures, it’s arguable that Trump’s presidency never really began. By those measures, it’s indisputable that his presidency ended in the lobby of Trump Tower on Tuesday afternoon, when he chose — yes, chose — to litigate rather than
    lead, to attend to his wounded pride instead of his wounded nation and to debate the supposed fine points of white supremacy.

    He abdicated his responsibilities so thoroughly and recklessly that it amounted
    to a letter of resignation. Then he whored for his Virginia winery on the way out the door.

    Trump knew full well what he should have done, because he’d done it — grudgingly and badly — only a day earlier. But it left him feeling countermanded, corrected, submissive and weak, and those emotions just won’t do for an ego as needy and skin
    as thin as his. So he put id before country and lashed out, in a manner so patently wrong and transcendently ruinous that TV news shows had to go begging for Republican lawmakers to defend or even try to explain what he’d said.

    Those lawmakers wanted no part of him. The same went for the corporate chieftains he considers his peers. And for the generals he genuinely reveres. The heads of the Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines all went out of their way to
    issue statements
    condemning the hatred that Trump wouldn’t take on. A soft coup against a cuckoo: It confirmed how impotent Trump had become.

    On Tuesday he “relinquished what presidents from Roosevelt to Reagan have regarded as a cardinal duty of their job: set a moral course to unify the nation,” wrote The Times’s Mark Landler, in what was correctly labeled a news analysis and not an
    opinion column. Landler’s assessment, echoed by countless others, was as unassailable as it was haunting, and it was prompted in part by Trump’s perverse response to a question that it’s hard to imagine another president being asked: Did he place
    the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville, Va., on the same “moral plane” as those who showed up to push back at them?

    “I’m not putting anybody on a moral plane,” Trump answered.

    Indeed he wasn’t. And if you can’t put anybody on a moral plane, you can’t put yourself on Air Force One.

    On Friday Trump finally dismissed his polarizing chief strategist, Steve Bannon. That’s excellent. And irrelevant. A president’s team doesn’t matter when he himself is this lost.

    In The Atlantic, under the headline “Donald Trump Is a Lame-Duck President,” David Graham wrote: “For most presidents, that comes in the last few months of a term. For Trump, it appears to have arrived early, just a few months into his term. The
    president did always brag that he was a fast learner.”

    In Axios, Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei noted that the president had “systematically damaged or destroyed his relationship with — well, almost every group or individual essential to success.” They then listed these “methodically alienated”
    constituencies: “the public,” “CEOs,” “the intelligence community,”
    “every Democrat who could help him do a deal,” “world leaders,” “Europe,” “his own staff.”

    In The Times, Michael Shear, Maggie Haberman and Glenn Thrush reported that several of his top advisers couldn’t see how his presidency would recover. “Others expressed doubts about his capacity to do the job,” they added.

    Striking a similar note, Tennessee Senator Bob Corker, who has not been among Trump’s frequent Republican critics, told reporters, “The president has not
    yet been able to demonstrate the stability nor some of the competence that he needs to
    demonstrate.”

    This is a question of more than competence. It’s a question of basic interest, and when I look back through the lens of the present wreckage at all that’s happened since Trump descended that escalator in Trump Tower in June 2015, I see clearly that
    he never in fact wanted or set out to be president, not as the position is conventionally or correctly defined.

    He revealed that repeatedly as he rejected the traditional rules and usual etiquette, refusing to release his tax returns, bragging about his penis size, feuding with the Muslim father of a fallen American soldier and electing puerility over poetry at
    nearly every meaningful moment.

    Because of his victories in the Republican primary and then the general election, his campaign was hailed for its tactical genius. But it was driven by, and tailored to, his emotional cravings. All that time on Twitter wasn’t principally about a direct
    connection to voters. It was a way to stare at an odometer of approval and monitor, in real time, how broadly his sentiments were being liked and shared.

    Applause. Greater brand exposure. A new layer of perks atop an existence already lavish with them. Utter saturation of Americans’ consciousness. These
    were his foremost goals. Governing wasn’t, and that was obvious in his haziness and dishonesty
    before Election Day and in his laziness and defiance after.

    He made clear that conflicts of interest didn’t trouble him, drawing constant
    attention to Trump properties and incessantly pointing out that nothing in the law of the land compelled him to divest his business interests.

    He opened the White House door wide to unmoored and unserious people, most recently Anthony Scaramucci, who, during his nanosecond as communications director, disparaged Bannon as someone engaged primarily in a limber act of self-gratification. That was
    on the record. Then Bannon disparaged his administration adversaries as being so threatened by him that they were “wetting themselves.” That was on the record, too.

    A president is supposed to fill important posts. Trump dallied. A president is supposed to be involved in lawmaking, but members of Congress who met with Trump about the repeal-and-replace of Obamacare were aghast at his ignorance of
    the legislation and
    of the legislative process itself.

    A president is supposed to safeguard the most sacred American institutions, repairing them if need be. Trump doesn’t respect them. He has sought to discredit and disempower the judiciary, the free press, the F.B.I., the Congressional Budget Office. He
    even managed to inject politics into, and pollute, the Boy Scouts. This is the course of a tyrant.

    I haven’t mentioned Russia. How astonishing that it can be left out and there’s still a surfeit to rue.

    Trump hasn’t been exercising the duties of his office. He’s been excising them, one by one. The moral forfeiture of the past week was the capper.

    And as I watched the Bushes and the generals and Trump’s former rivals for the Republican presidential nomination step into the public square to enunciate
    their own principles about murderous bigots and domestic terrorists, I realized
    that they weren’
    t going through any typical this-is-what-makes-us-Americans motions. They weren’t preening.

    They were, in the words of The Washington Post’s James Hohmann, “filling the void.” If Trump wasn’t going to do his job, others had to.

    I kept coming across variations on the verdict that he had “failed to lead,” and that phraseology is off. “Fail” and “failure” imply that there was an effort, albeit unsuccessful.

    Trump made none. He consciously decided that he didn’t care about comforting or inspiring those Americans — a majority of them — who weren’t quick and
    generous enough with their clapping. He was more interested in justifying himself.

    So he picked division over unity, war over peace. And make no mistake: He didn’t merely shortchange the presidency. He left it vacant.

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  • From thang ornerythinchus@1:229/2 to allreadydun@gmail.com on Saturday, August 19, 2017 06:47:41
    From: thangolossus@gmail.com

    On Thu, 17 Aug 2017 17:20:15 -0700 (PDT), boredfuck
    <allreadydun@gmail.com> wrote:

    whatever you do in the coming months on this earth
    just don't turn your back to traffic. Why? Because
    there are douchers that can hurt you if you let them.
    Face traffic don't turn your back ever on the flow of
    traffic. We learned this in the Scouts back in the
    fiftys. you walk towards oncoming traffic. Stuff
    a 10 year old knows. when you think about it alkada
    come arm millions of drivers all over the world with
    an automobile. They could do some serious damage
    with very little practice. here's our next freedom
    to go to shit, loss of driving priviledges. Wonderful.
    Bad enough one has to jack around at the airport. When
    is our king and his 535 other jackoffs in Washington going
    to actually do something to cut these pricks down?
    Ticky toc. Waiting for what? Smell the coffee gobsocks.

    That's useful existential advice. It's part of being situationally
    aware. People should always face traffic in any case - how can you
    walk down a road with your back to unknown persons in control of 1
    tonne hunks of metal which could easily smear you all over the
    landscape and keep on going?

    But the world is full of stupid people so this advice bears repeating.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 18, 2017 23:56:58
    From: slider@nanashram.com

    Be prepared !

    ### - dib dib dib! (i used to be in the scouts too hehehe...)

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  • From boredfuck@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 18, 2017 15:54:02
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    looks like it is the white vans we have
    to look out for. Be prepared !

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