From: jeremyhdonovan@gmail.com

On Wednesday, November 8, 2017 at 10:03:40 AM UTC-8, slider wrote:

On Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:19:51 -0000, thang ornerythinchus <thangolossus@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry to top post but someone has to tell you - you're being passive aggressive. You're also evidently very transparent (however, read
below for a caveat).

After a particularly verbose post I said to you a few days ago that
you should cease and desist posting entire articles rather than the
link. You responded, correctly, that the link in that case was a blog
on FB and I quietly accepted this on the basis that blogs change so
quickly and FB can be so obscure sometimes that in this instance the
entire article *was* appropriate.

However, you have now posted three (count them - 3) densely garrulous entire or almost entire articles along with a few but not all links -
when the links plus terse comments and perhaps extracts for emphasis
would have sufficed, and should have sufficed. For instance, your
second post in this thread should have consisted only of the following
link (which has some pics, unlike your repost of the entire article):

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/06/opinion/gillespie-republicans-virginia-election.html

You are clearly doing this to irritate. While I don't give a shit,
you seem incapable of understanding that others are at least as
intelligent as you and accordingly can see right through you, right
through to your motivations.

Unless of course you *are* clever to the extent that you predicted
*this* response and therefore thought in the second degree, which is a skillset possessed by very few. I doubt that. I think you are just
being passive aggressive and you haven't bothered, or don't know how
to, cloak it.

In any case, Tl:dr...

### - he's not being passive-aggressive...

he's just being a... CUNT!!!

Maybe a "cunt" is best defined here as someone who posts solely
to call someone else a "cunt". :) A thing you've done not just
in this thread but repeatedly. I.e. "cunt" = "substanceless juvenile"

I'm still wondering... what is "thought in the second degree"?
And is there such a thing as "thought in the third degree" or higher? :)

In any case, one mind-blowing fact to emphasize from this thread -
before juvenile boneheads totally high-jack it into the trash dump -
is that 126 million Americans were exposed to Russia-generated
Facebook content that specifically created to foment discord and
to largely favor Donald Trump. While still a bit hard to prove,
this fact alone makes it seem obvious that the Russians wielded
significant influence in the results of our American election.

LOL :)))))

On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 16:03:23 -0800 (PST), "Jeremy H. Denisovan"
wrote:

One more election-day-anniversary post and I'll stop for now.

The New Democratic Party
Charles M. Blow
NOV. 5, 2017

A year ago this week, America made what I believe history will record
as one of the greatest electoral mistakes in the life of the nation: It >> elected Donald Trump president of the United States.

It did so while drowning in Russia-produced propaganda, under a torrent >> of Russia-stolen emails, facing the stiff arm of renewed voter
suppression, and on the watch of a splintering and dysfunctional
Democratic Party.

All of those caveats are valid and necessary, but they don’t undo what >> has been done. They rightly call into question the legitimacy of
Trump’s presidency, but they don’t nullify it.

The only remedy is removal, and that’s a very high bar, although recent

moves in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation have renewed >> hopes.

How did we get here?

This is becoming old saw: Russia stole and published emails and also
generated fake news, all in an attempt to hurt Hillary Clinton’s
chances of being elected and therefore to aid Trump’s chances. What is >> new is knowledge of the overwhelming extent of Russia’s meddling and >> how it was aimed specifically at widening America’s

divisions.

As Facebook’s general counsel testified to a Senate committee last
week, 126 million Americans may have been exposed to Russia-generated
content on that platform alone. As a point of reference, only 137.5
million Americans voted in the 2016 election.

Russia used American technology and American companies as weapons
against American democracy.

The Democratic Party, or at least many of its highest-profile
figureheads from the last election, is locked in a vicious cycle of
re-examinations and recriminations. The latest of those is the
controversial new political memoir, “Hacks: The Inside Story of the
Break-ins and Breakdowns That Put Donald Trump in the White House,” by

Donna Brazile, about serving as acting head of the Democratic National Committee during the last legs of the campaign.

The book is dishy on a personal level but damaging on a political
level. Maybe that’s the point. As Joy-Ann Reid wrote on The Daily
Beast, “Donna Brazile may be burning the village in order to save it.” >>
But at a time when Trump is scrambling for anything at all to distract >> from Mueller’s plodding — and fruitful — investigation, is it the

right

time to start a three-alarm?

I don’t begrudge anyone the right to tell his or her own story, but my >> focus now is on protecting the country from Trump, and nothing else.

Brazile contended on ABC’s “This Week” that there would be no truly

good time for her to release her book, and that people questioning the >> timing could “go to hell.” The problem is that we’re already in hell

and trying to dig our way out, and many of us are crestfallen when any >> obstacle is added that might impede that effort.

A Newsweek cover story last week declared, “Trump is Leading the Most >> Corrupt Administration in U.S. History, One of First-Class
Kleptocrats.” He is a joke on the international stage. He is pushing us

closer to an unthinkable nuclear conflict with North Korea. He is
inflaming racial tensions by siding with the racists. His Justice

Department is chipping away at civil rights. His Environmental
Protection Agency is seemingly trying to do everything at odds with protecting the environment. And now Trump and the Republicans want to give the rich a giant wet kiss of a tax break.

[ Btw, here's that Newsweek article referenced above:
http://www.newsweek.com/2017/11/10/trump-administration-most-corrupt-history-698935.html
- hint: turn your sound off to escape their bullshit ads]

The reign of Trump is the reign of ruin. That is why the Resistance is >> needed now more than ever.

And that’s the good news. The Resistance is strong and resolute,
passionate and focused. The historic Women’s March has continued its >> work with a convention last month in Detroit. Resistance groups like
Indivisible have continued their organizing and pressure. Indivisible
now boasts that “across the nation, over 5,800 local groups

(at least two in every congressional district) are using the Indivisible Guide to hold their members of Congress accountable.” And, as CNN reported on Saturday, there is an overwhelming surge of Democratic women interested in running for office.

More people in polls appear to be waking to the reality that Trump is a >> walking failure who built his legend and his fortune on the lies that
he was savvy and shrewd and a consummate deal maker. They are also
waking to the very real possibility that all these Trump campaign
contacts with Russians that everyone on the campaign

seemed to forget may not be an epidemic of amnesia, but instead a widespread effort to cover something up.

Liberals have the will and determination to turn this giant mistake
around, to pressure their elected officials or possibly replace them.
They have the resolve to resist Trump by every means at their disposal, >> while clinging to the hope that he might one day be replaced.

The only issue I see is that these efforts seem to be operating
separately from the national Democratic Party, a dinosaur of
bureaucratic machinery in an evolved age of direct democratic action.

Liberalism has leapt over the Democratic Party. Liberalism has its eye >> on a new beginning, while the mainstream party is stuck looking
backward and bickering. The Resistance isn’t part of the old Democratic

Party; The Resistance is the new Democratic Party, or at least its
future.

***

Let's see if I can generate just a little "resistance".

Trevor Noah - Silicon Valley Answers to Congress Amid the Russia Probe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUVlRZxJAy0

Colbert - Bannon Suggests Trump Defund Robert Mueller's Investigation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvG8J9x-VmA

Samantha Bee - The Matrix Has Your Vote
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rshKK-i_CGA

***

A few choice quotes from the Newsweek article:

The number of White House officials currently facing questions,
lawsuits or investigation is astonishing.

“The most corrupt presidency and administration we’ve ever had,”
says Zephyr Teachout, a Fordham University law professor who authored
a book titled Corruption in America: From Benjamin Franklin’s Snuff
Box to Citizens United.

According to the presidential historian Robert Dallek, no American
leader has acted with more unadulterated self-interest as Trump.
Dallek says that in terms of outright corruption, Trump is worse
than both Ulysses S. Grant and Warren G. Harding, presidents who
oversaw the most flagrant instances of graft in American
political history.

“What makes this different,” Dallek says, “is that the president

can’t

seem to speak the truth about a host of things.” Trump isn't just
allowing corruption, in Dallek’s view, but encouraging it.

Representative Elijah E. Cummings of Maryland, the ranking Democrat
on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, puts the
matter even more bluntly: "I've never seen anything like this."

David J. Apol, who heads the Office of Government Ethics, recently
wrote a memorandum that had him “deeply concerned that the actions
of some in Government leadership have harmed perceptions about the
importance of ethics."

“You don’t see any shame here,” says E.J. Dionne Jr., the
Washington Post columnist and co-author of the new book
One Nation After Trump. “And that’s really disturbing.”

“The tone was set by the president when he decided not to divest,”
says Walter M. Shaub Jr., who’d been appointed by Trump’s predecessor, >> Obama... He says this administration “came in unprepared for the

rigors”

of working within the federal government, “unaware of the fact that
there are many requirements and a culture of accountability to the
public."

Shaub blames a lot of the ethical lapses on White House counsel
Donald McGahn II, whom he charges with fostering an anything-goes
atmosphere by interpreting rules and laws in ways that allowed Trump
to skirt them. “He has been the great enabler. And he has been an
amplifier of the message that ethics doesn’t matter.”

Norman L. Eisen (chief ethics lawyer for Obama): “It’s an ethics
calamity of a kind we have never seen in modern presidential history.” >>
In June, a liberal super PAC called American Bridge 21st Century
found 74 lobbyists working in the administration, 49 of them in
agencies they once lobbied on behalf of clients. The new deputy
administrator of the EPA, for example, is former coal lobbyist
Andrew R. Wheeler.

Painter, the former Bush lawyer...thinks Trump isn’t just
eviscerating ethics laws but destroying the conservative movement
that, for decades, preached moral responsibility and fiscal prudence.
“This,” he laments, “could be the end of the Republican Party.”

***

And what happened to Trump's once-touted "Drain the Swamp" plan??
Just go look at the page it was once on and see:

http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2017/11/01/image-99914.jpg

I saw all this shit coming from 1000 miles away. I *knew* it would
all be corrupt as hell. It's almost impossible to even keep up with
the horrible stuff going on there's so much of it.

As Newsweek puts it:
"The swamp has grown into a sinkhole that threatens to swallow
the entire Trump administration."

Don't get me started on Attorney General Jeff Sessions, who's
trying to restart the war on drugs, militarize the police,
privatize the prisons, persecute the gays, and take us all back
into some stifling repeat of the 1950s. Then there's Ryan Zinke,
busy selling out our national lands, and EPA head Scott Pruitt,
muzzling all the scientists while practically encouraging
big corporations to rape and pillage the earth while poisoning
the people.

After sabotaging our health care system, what's next?
A HUGE tax giveaway to the rich, comprised of:
1) money taken OUT of all the public service functions of govt.
2) huge increases in our deficit

They're heathen money worshipers pretending to be "men of god".
The Trump administration is the closest thing to satan I've seen. :)

Still less than 10 months in.

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