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    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, April 11, 2025 13:52:28
    From: slider@anashram.com

    The potential for the United States to relinquish its long-standing role
    as NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander Europe (SACEUR) would represent a
    seismic shift in the alliance’s structure, but such a move remains
    unlikely in the short term, Professor Sir Lawrence Freedman told MPs this
    week.

    Speaking before the Defence Committee on 1 April, Freedman was asked about reports—most notably from NBC—that the Trump administration had considered removing the US from the SACEUR role or combining it with US Africa
    Command.

    “It would be a tremendous shift for the Americans to hand over command,” Freedman said, cautioning that “we have some way to go before we are there.”

    While acknowledging growing internal pressure within the Pentagon to hand
    over more responsibilities to European allies, he stressed that such a
    change would face stiff institutional resistance.

    https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/us-relinquishing-nato-command-not-imminent-not-unthinkable/

    “You’ll see tremendous pushback in the Senate and certainly in the army. Armies don’t like giving up command posts,” he noted. “So long as the Americans are involved in European security, they will want what influence
    they have over it.”

    Still, Freedman acknowledged that any serious cut to US force posture in
    Europe could eventually make continued American leadership at SACEUR
    harder to justify. “At some point, if you’re cutting your forces below a certain point, it would be very hard to explain why you’re holding on to
    the command.”

    Asked directly by Committee Chair Tan Dhesi MP whether the move was
    imminent, Freedman replied: “I hope it is not imminent.”

    The conversation then turned to whether Europe could, in the event of a diminished US presence, emerge as a “third great power” alongside the US and China. While acknowledging that such a shift would likely bring “short-term pain” for European states, Dhesi asked whether a truly unified and rearmed Europe might reach that status in the coming years.

    Freedman was sceptical: “The Europeans don’t have the unity to think in those terms yet,” he said, noting that “Britain, France, Germany and Spain were the great powers of the past,” but the current political landscape is far more complex.

    While China, he observed, does not mirror the traditional model of a globe-spanning great power, Europe lacks the political coherence required
    for such a role. “There used to be talk about the EU as a civil power… not so militaristic and so on,” he added.

    Freedman concluded that while European nations may increasingly need to
    “do more on their own continent,” achieving global great power status—particularly in the military sense—remains distant.

    Freedman is one of Britain’s foremost strategic thinkers and served as Professor of War Studies at King’s College London from 1982 to 2014. He
    was a key foreign policy adviser to successive UK governments and was
    appointed to the Iraq Inquiry panel in 2009. Known for his analysis of
    nuclear strategy, international conflict, and the evolution of military doctrine, his views continue to shape defence debates at the highest level.

    ### - makes sense all this, the US (or nato) are stepping down and europe
    can fund it's own damn equivalent defense force, even to the point of potentially becoming a 3rd/4th world power if europe can really unite and become say: the federated/united states of europe, far more than just a
    common market...

    the 'panic' being - even though there's been no sign of it - that russia
    could suddenly expand its aims to move into OTHER nations and thus the
    rush to quickly amass a huge-enough force to fill the gap left by the US
    and to act as a deterrent in it's own right, that europe in that sense is taking-over the support of ukraine in its war with russia...

    the problem being that we talk a lot here about 'peace' and 'ceasefires'
    and how russia isn't complying, but we're not actually offering russia
    anything or negotiating a peace settlement as such, out of the blue we
    just want them to declare a ceasefire for nothing in return, we're
    demanding it, there is no negotiation...

    So nothing's changed... we can send weapons 'into' ukraine to use but
    can't directly do anything ourselves from outside ukraine, we can huff &
    puff from the sidelines and even supply the weapons and support, but we
    CAN'T intervene directly!

    e.g., the uk has just announced sending 4.5 billion in new weapons to
    ukraine, presumably the same 4.5 billion they just took away from the
    disabled for winter fuel payments, and ukraine will quickly use them up
    and need more, and that's on-top of the funds already pledged (more
    billions)

    the point being that unless russia 'actually' attacks another nation
    beyond ukraine, then this could potentially continue-on, as-is, for years! literally!! and all to no avail!!!

    meanwhile, they's now talking cryptically in europe, about how THIS is the CRUCIAL year and the CRUCIAL battle with russia!? (the crucial year? now??
    not 2 or 3 years later??? so was this a slip?)

    fact remains: unless WE attack russia, russia can just sit there exactly
    right where it is, for decades, and there's nada we can do about it while
    all our economies go slowly down the drain, else we seem to be banking an
    awful lot on russia making some bigger move, this being just like the uk
    versus germany and the uk saying if you go into poland then we will be
    at-war and lamenting the fact that we didn't act sooner... in that
    instance germany did invade poland and it started ww2, but what if russia
    never DOES go any farther, what then??

    'acting sooner' would have also meant attacking germany and declaring war sooner, a move into poland being a step too far being what it all came
    down to, exactly the same situation we're now AGAIN in today! (we
    obviously didn't learn anything from history then!) everyone waiting to
    see if 'the enemy' takes another step and THEN we'll act, but CAN'T act
    BEFORE that without setting-off what everyone wants to avoid: an open
    clash!

    iow: it's a total stalemate situation! russia has played for stalemate and gotten there! (it's actually been a series of stalemates all through,
    first with ukraine and now europe?) and there's fuck-all we can now do
    without it being VERY clear that WE'RE attacking them! (we could feed
    endless supplies INTO ukraine but they haven't got endless manpower to
    fight with! and we can't send them any troops either!)

    so what's gonna happen given THAT scenario then thang, you tell me?


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