• Re: merry xmas thang :) (3/3)

    From slider@1:229/2 to theBeach@cairo.ankh.io on Sunday, January 05, 2025 13:49:41
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    ### - was only being kinda sarcastic re waiting until it's legalised etc, they've been talking about that nearly forever here in the uk, ever since
    it was banned in fact back in 1947 or thereabouts, the uk being one of the
    last to make it illegal and only under protest at the time seeing as
    they'd virtually raised a whole empire off the profits of
    importing/exporting dope worldwide (cough-cough, sorry i meant 'spices', riiight...) ;)

    otherwise you and i are very different then in that respect, because for someone you accused of knowing nada about it altogether i've actually
    smoked it near enough every single day since age 17 or thereabouts after
    being introduced to it at college heh (how that happened actually being a
    great story just in itself, one perhaps for another day...) the only 3
    items i genuinely took away from college being weed, lsd & my first real girlfriend lol, a year after which i dropped-out altogether and which i considered was plenty enough education for moi, the rest was rubbish ;)

    and whereas you kinda look down on weed and from what you say above: don't think that much of it etc, i'm completely the opposite and see it as
    having been instrumental in shaping not only my whole outlook but also my
    later education to a higher degree... kind of like a tv interview i saw
    years ago about our controversial channel-4 sending one of their indian reporters to the indian mela festival, something that takes place every
    year in india and then you see all these holy men covered in grey ashes traveling to it from right across india and beyond, every 33 years being
    some kind of special super-mela event having some kind of astrological significance to it, the same 33-year event the buddha is reputed to have attended back in his day and apparently caused quite a stir...

    so anyway, they packed this young naive uk-indian guy off to the mela to
    go see/report what it's all about, 100's of 1000's of these holy men descending/converging on the place like the muslims do at mecca only
    bigger! and this young indian reporter dressed in a dark 3-piece suit lol
    and his big channel-4 microphone, is going around asking all these holy
    men questions about what it's all about and why it's happening + what it
    all means etc etc etc... and at one point asks this typical looking dude
    he was interviewing why he was smoking hashish so heavily (everyone in the
    tent is literally chuffing-away on chillums and pipes and stuff like
    there's no tomorrow lol) and doesn't all that drug-taking interfere with/contradict all his holy man spiritual practices??

    and this holy-man dude pauses mid-puff in a cloud of thick smoke, looks up surprised at this reporter, a look of humorous scorn clearly crossing his
    face for a moment and almost rolling his eyes, replies: my young man,
    don't be so stupid, don't you 'realise' it was smoking hashish that turned
    me INTO a holy man in the first place??? you should try it!

    and then he went back to honking heavily on his chillum ahahaha... our
    young reporter looking clearly dazed/shocked, not only from that guy's
    rather surprising remarks but prolly also from all the thick fumes lol :)))

    get it?

    that for 'some' people it's a total lifestyle, one that may or may not eventually turn ya's into some kinda holy man hehehe...

    go figure ;)

    --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)
  • From He Who Sees All@1:229/2 to All on Monday, January 06, 2025 11:07:26
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    serious about things. No longer the 1973 hippy with the mushroom
    jeans on tripping on acid and smoking a lot of pot.

    ### - was only being kinda sarcastic re waiting until it's legalised etc, >they've been talking about that nearly forever here in the uk, ever since
    it was banned in fact back in 1947 or thereabouts, the uk being one of the >last to make it illegal and only under protest at the time seeing as
    they'd virtually raised a whole empire off the profits of
    importing/exporting dope worldwide (cough-cough, sorry i meant 'spices', >riiight...) ;)

    otherwise you and i are very different then in that respect, because for >someone you accused of knowing nada about it altogether i've actually
    smoked it near enough every single day since age 17 or thereabouts after >being introduced to it at college heh (how that happened actually being a >great story just in itself, one perhaps for another day...) the only 3
    items i genuinely took away from college being weed, lsd & my first real >girlfriend lol, a year after which i dropped-out altogether and which i >considered was plenty enough education for moi, the rest was rubbish ;)

    and whereas you kinda look down on weed and from what you say above: don't >think that much of it etc, i'm completely the opposite and see it as
    having been instrumental in shaping not only my whole outlook but also my >later education to a higher degree... kind of like a tv interview i saw
    years ago about our controversial channel-4 sending one of their indian >reporters to the indian mela festival, something that takes place every
    year in india and then you see all these holy men covered in grey ashes >traveling to it from right across india and beyond, every 33 years being
    some kind of special super-mela event having some kind of astrological >significance to it, the same 33-year event the buddha is reputed to have >attended back in his day and apparently caused quite a stir...

    so anyway, they packed this young naive uk-indian guy off to the mela to
    go see/report what it's all about, 100's of 1000's of these holy men >descending/converging on the place like the muslims do at mecca only
    bigger! and this young indian reporter dressed in a dark 3-piece suit lol
    and his big channel-4 microphone, is going around asking all these holy
    men questions about what it's all about and why it's happening + what it
    all means etc etc etc... and at one point asks this typical looking dude
    he was interviewing why he was smoking hashish so heavily (everyone in the >tent is literally chuffing-away on chillums and pipes and stuff like
    there's no tomorrow lol) and doesn't all that drug-taking interfere >with/contradict all his holy man spiritual practices??

    and this holy-man dude pauses mid-puff in a cloud of thick smoke, looks up >surprised at this reporter, a look of humorous scorn clearly crossing his >face for a moment and almost rolling his eyes, replies: my young man,
    don't be so stupid, don't you 'realise' it was smoking hashish that turned
    me INTO a holy man in the first place??? you should try it!

    and then he went back to honking heavily on his chillum ahahaha... our
    young reporter looking clearly dazed/shocked, not only from that guy's
    rather surprising remarks but prolly also from all the thick fumes lol :)))

    get it?

    that for 'some' people it's a total lifestyle, one that may or may not >eventually turn ya's into some kinda holy man hehehe...

    go figure ;)

    Smoking pot is so mundane now for me that I need a reason, not just
    get stoned, but something along the lines of better sleep, or
    elucidation of rational thinking, deeper enjoyment of music, better
    enjoyment and appreciation of nature - colour, form, evolution etc;
    pondering beginnings, endings, time, space, metaphysics...and so on.

    Or, very very occasionally, just get drunk and stoned and fuck myself
    up (within the bounds of a 70 year old body) with music until I totter
    off to bed.

    It's just...mundane. The thrill of illegality is gone, partly due to
    age partly due to ease of legal acquisition. The effect is well
    known, nothing new there experientially. So, it's just a herb with
    interesting effects.

    There is no way on this planet I would adopt it now, or even 50 years
    ago, as a "total lifestyle". That's for some people as you say but
    not for me. But as a permanent part of MY lifestyle, it's there to
    stay.

    In a nutshell, I find it enjoyable and I've been smoking it since I
    was 16. It's still mundane though.

    --- SoupGate-DOS v1.05
    * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2)