• Germany vows financial aid for Ukraine after diplomatic row

    From slider@1:229/2 to All on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 12:54:45
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    Berlin says it stands ‘very closely’ on Kyiv’s side but won’t change position on arms exports.

    German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock sought to calm a diplomatic
    storm with Ukraine on Monday, offering economic aid to the war-threatened country and reiterating Berlin’s strong support.

    The move came after Germany’s top navy official over the weekend played
    down the threat of the 100,000 Russian troops massed along the Ukrainian border, suggesting the West should show some “respect” to Russian
    President Vladimir Putin.

    The German government was quick to distance itself from its navy chief,
    who resigned later on Saturday. But the damage was done: Ukraine’s foreign minister publicly scolded Germany, saying that it “must stop such words
    and actions [which] undermine unity and encourage Vladimir Putin to a new attack on Ukraine.”

    Arriving at a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Brussels on Monday,
    Baerbock vowed support for Ukraine and argued that “economic stabilization ” was “one of the decisive measures” of support Germany could provide.

    “It is important that we especially keep the economic situation in Ukraine
    in mind,” she said. “We are very closely on Ukraine’s side in terms of both financial and economic support.”

    Baerbock did not offer any details about the monetary aid, however.

    Her announcement came the same day that European Commission President
    Ursula von der Leyen proposed a €1.2 billion emergency aid package to
    “help Ukraine now to address its financing needs due to the conflict.” The money still needs to be approved by EU countries and the European
    Parliament.

    The pledges of financial support are occurring against the backdrop of
    another issue that has left Ukraine frustrated: Germany’s refusal to send Ukraine arms to help the country defend itself against a potential Russian invasion. Germany has even hindered Estonia to this point from sending old German howitzers to the country.

    Moreover, German Chancellor Olaf Scholz only hesitantly announced last
    week that all options — including a stop of the controversial Russia-to-Germany Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, which Ukraine opposes —
    would have to be discussed if Russia attacked Ukraine.

    While Baerbock spoke of economic and financial aid on Monday, a government spokesperson said in Berlin that the German position concerning arms
    exports to Ukraine, even when it comes to defensive weapon systems,
    remained “unchanged.”

    The spokesperson further said that the government “has not yet made a decision” whether to allow the export of the Estonian howitzers to
    Ukraine. “I cannot say precisely” when the decision will be made, the spokesperson said, “but it’s not a matter of months.”

    Asked whether Germany was a reliable partner when it comes to dealing with Russia, EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said Monday that “all
    members of the European Union are united.”

    ### - had to really laff over everyone suddenly turning on germany
    (again!) for NOT wanting to get too involved in anything to do with
    sending military arms and wars and stuff?

    and yet the answer for their reluctance is actually very simple really...
    the exact same reason they also balked that time when it came to them
    being asked to go to israel during the gulf war to test for chemical
    weapons that saddam hussain was reported to have chucked at them: everyone called them cowards for refusing to go?? :)))

    what they were NOT taking into consideration, however, and it's very important... being that since the end of ww2, germany has literally been
    on the end of a stick they've been beaten with for the last 70 years!!! ya rotten nazi-bastards causing ww2 (poke/dig) gassing & killing millions of people?? (poke-poke-dig) on & on like that, by the whole world, for near
    on 3 generations???

    is it any wonder then that, after being put through ALL that, of
    generations all being beaten with the same awful stick, that the 'current' generation are all now quite genuine pacifists that wants absolutely NADA
    to do with wars or killing people ever again?

    that although (because of their history) they just so happen to be the
    world's best experts on 'gassing' people (lol @ the irony) they then felt distinctly 'uncomfortable' when asked to go to 'israel' (of all places
    lol) and investigate them being 'gassed' LOL ! they were horrified at even
    the very idea ffs! and it was actually 'quite 'cruel' of us to poke them
    for feeling that way?? (very cruel actually, mixed signals and all that?)

    ditto again now: as confirmed pacifists not wanting to ever do anything
    illegal or violent again, they don't wanna get involved in sending arms to anywhere that'll maybe use them to either, rightly or wrongly: 'kill'
    people, right?

    this being perfectly understandable! of course they're part of europe and
    stand with them now as allies! but after being treated/conditioned like
    that for 70 fuckin' years don't pretend to be surprised when they
    immediately shy like a horse at the prospect of getting involved with
    violence of ANY description???

    i.e., we DID that TO them as PUNISHMENT for their involvement in ww2!

    and it worked!!! they NEVER ever wanna be violent EVER again LOL ! they've become total pacifists!

    even if that means being kicked around & despised by the rest of europe
    for wanting peace...

    coz in truth, after being conditioned so brutally like that, for sooo very long, they actually need therapy! (lol anyone would!)

    iow: 'because' of what they (as a nation) have BEEN through over the last
    70 years, germany is thus the very LAST person ANYONE should ever ask to
    join their army LOL ! LOL !

    (do you remember the movie clockwork orange? well THAT what was
    effectively done TO germany as punishment!!! go figure...)

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