• Philosophy 101, the first lesson...

    From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, September 05, 2021 18:50:40
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    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

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  • From Venus as a Boy@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, September 05, 2021 14:02:10
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    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: rainbowguardian@web.de

    Am 05.09.2021 um 12:50 schrieb o'Mahoney:
    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram


    :-)

    --
    https://slowtemplelovecozmicpurplehealing.space/

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  • From Noah Sombrero@1:229/2 to libertidad@south.south.com on Sunday, September 05, 2021 08:21:59
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    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: fedora@fea.st

    On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 18:50:40 +0800, o'Mahoney
    <libertidad@south.south.com> wrote:

    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

    Is zen a philosophy?
    --
    Noah Sombrero

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  • From chris rodgers@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, September 05, 2021 20:39:12
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBJYxPN8qIA

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  • From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 06, 2021 15:33:11
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    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:21:59 -0400, Noah Sombrero <fedora@fea.st>
    wrote:

    On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 18:50:40 +0800, o'Mahoney
    <libertidad@south.south.com> wrote:

    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

    Is zen a philosophy?

    If you have to ask...

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  • From one@1:229/2 to o'Mahoney on Monday, September 06, 2021 04:09:07
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    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: being@apolka.sign

    o'Mahoney wrote:
    Noah wrote:
    o'Mahoney wrote:

    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

    Is zen a philosophy?

    If you have to ask...

    When people from near an edge west
    on a huge land mass went to a near edge of
    the very same land mass before hopping on over
    to land on a land they eyed across a strait or a sea,
    they took their names, philosophy and religion and
    saw phenomena going on there, in the east.

    Dhyana from India had already taken root in a land
    which Bodhidharma found fertile enough and there
    a form formed known as Channa or Chan after it
    got filtered through the Chuang-tzu aka Tao Chia.

    Apparently the Chia, aka, Schools of Thought, in
    what could be thought to be China today yet was not
    during the daze when confused historians decided to create
    and discriminate folk-religion from the 100 Schools as they
    saw fit, being scholars of history at the time.

    When blended, almost 1,000 years after the Tao Chia
    or Tao-School of Thought was created by historians of
    the so-called Han Dynasty, and after Chan moved on
    and found or took root on an island to eye that land
    through eyes of Zen, could be said to have bin done.

    Some modern scholars may contest there never was,
    in the practice of regular people a division of what are
    called and known as philosophy and religion, ever.

    Yet if one were to tell that to Han historians they
    may differ and see the 100 Schools as being philosophy
    as much as any other schools of thought were and arghh.

    - for the time beings ... Cheers!

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  • From Noah Sombrero@1:229/2 to one on Monday, September 06, 2021 09:14:32
    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: fedora@fea.st

    On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:09:07 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:

    o'Mahoney wrote:
    Noah wrote:
    o'Mahoney wrote:

    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

    Is zen a philosophy?

    If you have to ask...

    When people from near an edge west
    on a huge land mass went to a near edge of
    the very same land mass before hopping on over
    to land on a land they eyed across a strait or a sea,
    they took their names, philosophy and religion and
    saw phenomena going on there, in the east.

    Dhyana from India had already taken root in a land
    which Bodhidharma found fertile enough and there
    a form formed known as Channa or Chan after it
    got filtered through the Chuang-tzu aka Tao Chia.

    Apparently the Chia, aka, Schools of Thought, in
    what could be thought to be China today yet was not
    during the daze when confused historians decided to create
    and discriminate folk-religion from the 100 Schools as they
    saw fit, being scholars of history at the time.

    When blended, almost 1,000 years after the Tao Chia
    or Tao-School of Thought was created by historians of
    the so-called Han Dynasty, and after Chan moved on
    and found or took root on an island to eye that land
    through eyes of Zen, could be said to have bin done.

    Some modern scholars may contest there never was,
    in the practice of regular people a division of what are
    called and known as philosophy and religion, ever.

    Yet if one were to tell that to Han historians they
    may differ and see the 100 Schools as being philosophy
    as much as any other schools of thought were and arghh.

    - for the time beings ... Cheers!

    Even that much is already more philosophy than the world needs.
    --
    Noah Sombrero

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  • From ansaman@1:229/2 to Noah Sombrero on Monday, September 06, 2021 11:00:45
    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism, alt.philosophy, alt.buddha.short.fat.guy
    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: ansaman@gmail.com

    On 9/6/2021 9:14 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:09:07 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:

    o'Mahoney wrote:
    Noah wrote:
    o'Mahoney wrote:

    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

    Is zen a philosophy?

    If you have to ask...

    When people from near an edge west
    on a huge land mass went to a near edge of
    the very same land mass before hopping on over
    to land on a land they eyed across a strait or a sea,
    they took their names, philosophy and religion and
    saw phenomena going on there, in the east.

    Dhyana from India had already taken root in a land
    which Bodhidharma found fertile enough and there
    a form formed known as Channa or Chan after it
    got filtered through the Chuang-tzu aka Tao Chia.

    Apparently the Chia, aka, Schools of Thought, in
    what could be thought to be China today yet was not
    during the daze when confused historians decided to create
    and discriminate folk-religion from the 100 Schools as they
    saw fit, being scholars of history at the time.

    When blended, almost 1,000 years after the Tao Chia
    or Tao-School of Thought was created by historians of
    the so-called Han Dynasty, and after Chan moved on
    and found or took root on an island to eye that land
    through eyes of Zen, could be said to have bin done.

    Some modern scholars may contest there never was,
    in the practice of regular people a division of what are
    called and known as philosophy and religion, ever.

    Yet if one were to tell that to Han historians they
    may differ and see the 100 Schools as being philosophy
    as much as any other schools of thought were and arghh.

    - for the time beings ... Cheers!

    Even that much is already more philosophy than the world needs.

    All I know is that Han shot first.


    --
    **The AnsaMan**
    Stupor Mundi!

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  • From Wilson@1:229/2 to ansaman on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 13:46:49
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    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: Wilson@nowhere.net

    On 9/6/2021 11:00 AM, ansaman wrote:
    On 9/6/2021 9:14 AM, Noah Sombrero wrote:
    On Mon, 06 Sep 2021 04:09:07 -0700, one <being@apolka.sign> wrote:

    o'Mahoney wrote:
    Noah wrote:
    o'Mahoney wrote:

    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

    Is zen a philosophy?

    If you have to ask...

    When people from near an edge west
    on a huge land mass went to a near edge of
    the very same land mass before hopping on over
    to land on a land they eyed across a strait or a sea,
    they took their names, philosophy and religion and
    saw phenomena going on there, in the east.

    Dhyana from India had already taken root in a land
    which Bodhidharma found fertile enough and there
    a form formed known as Channa or Chan after it
    got filtered through the Chuang-tzu aka Tao Chia.

    Apparently the Chia, aka, Schools of Thought, in
    what could be thought to be China today yet was not
    during the daze when confused historians decided to create
    and discriminate folk-religion from the 100 Schools as they
    saw fit, being scholars of history at the time.

    When blended, almost 1,000 years after the Tao Chia
    or Tao-School of Thought was created by historians of
    the so-called Han Dynasty, and after Chan moved on
    and found or took root on an island to eye that land
    through eyes of Zen, could be said to have bin done.

    Some modern scholars may contest there never was,
    in the practice of regular people a division of what are
    called and known as philosophy and religion, ever.

    Yet if one were to tell that to Han historians they
    may differ and see the 100 Schools as being philosophy
    as much as any other schools of thought were and arghh.

    - for the time beings ... Cheers!

    Even that much is already more philosophy than the world needs.

    All I know is that Han shot first.

    Listen here you troublemaker.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From ansaman@1:229/2 to Wilson on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 15:22:18
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    XPost: alt.support.depression, alt.support.schizophrenia
    From: ansaman@gmail.com

    On 9/8/2021 1:46 PM, Wilson wrote:

    All I know is that Han shot first.

    Listen here you troublemaker.

    I also know Luke trained those little
    animals at the Jedi temple to
    "keep him company."

    --
    **The AnsaMan**
    Stupor Mundi!

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to gamo on Thursday, September 30, 2021 14:25:01
    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 13:41:11 +0100, gamo <gamo@telecable.es> wrote:

    El 5/9/21 a las 14:02, Venus as a Boy escribió:
    Am 05.09.2021 um 12:50 schrieb o'Mahoney:
    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram

    :-)


    Empirically speaking, you are safe asking

    "May I have some tea?".

    I bet you don't receive the tea on the head
    or the hands.

    ### - "Please Sir, can i have some more?"

    Tea! ;)

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  • From gamo@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, September 30, 2021 14:41:11
    XPost: alt.philosophy.taoism
    From: gamo@telecable.es

    El 5/9/21 a las 14:02, Venus as a Boy escribió:
    Am 05.09.2021 um 12:50 schrieb o'Mahoney:
    Before you begin training in
    enlightenment, a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea. During training,
    a bowl is not a bowl, and tea is
    not tea. After training in enlightenment,
    a bowl is a bowl
    and tea is tea.

    Zen Epigram


    :-)


    Empirically speaking, you are safe asking

    "May I have some tea?".

    I bet you don't receive the tea on the head
    or the hands.

    --
    http://gamo.sdf-eu.org/
    perl -E 'say "Status log: Cofee low, neurons on standby."'

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)