• keep beatin' your meat pendajo

    From chris rodgers@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 06, 2021 09:25:39
    From: allreadydun@gmail.com

    you're full of shit. shut the fuck up.

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 06, 2021 18:46:24
    From: slider@anashram.com

    always pissed about summat these days wrote...

    you're full of shit. shut the fuck up.

    ### - lol you can dish it out can't ya but ya sho' can't take it haha :)

    so WHOSE the one with the BIG self-important EGO now?? LOL :)))

    baiting me & baiting me, on & on, for months!?

    i even warned/advised ya (between the lines/indirectly recently) to let it
    go?

    but nooo... you just couldn't let go of that big bug up yo ass you gots
    about poor old slider for some whatever undeclared reason, it just wont go away... (geez even thang picked-up on it and he's not particularly
    perceptive)

    and so now ya sound just LIKE... jeremy???

    and we ALL know what a fuckin' gaslighting-idiot HE was LOL ! :)))

    i mean... if'n ya wanted to break friends then that's all ya had to say?
    be adult about it!

    not pissing & moaning about slider this and slider that, for months on
    end, without ever explaining why while i just laffed it all off in good
    humour, you being content to cowardly snipe and gaslight from the shadows
    at each and every opportunity regardless of the subject matter??

    and well... at least NOW you're being a bit more HONEST about it, and if
    THAT's what ya want...

    then fine.

    that's all ya had to say + ya wont get no arguments from moi about that
    other than my asking/checking one-time if you're sure...

    so are ya sure you're sure??

    then ok, look after yerself matey, it was good while it lasted. (after all
    20 years ain't bad!)

    plus am still be here if'n ya ever fancy a chat sometime...

    take care + may your god(s) go with you :)

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  • From LowRider44M@1:229/2 to slider on Saturday, August 07, 2021 08:54:02
    From: intraphase@gmail.com

    On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 1:46:31 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    always pissed about summat these days wrote...
    you're full of shit. shut the fuck up.
    ### - lol you can dish it out can't ya but ya sho' can't take it haha :)

    so WHOSE the one with the BIG self-important EGO now?? LOL :)))

    baiting me & baiting me, on & on, for months!?

    That's paranoia from becoming a fourth rate cult leader.


    i even warned/advised ya (between the lines/indirectly recently) to let it go?


    How dare he oppose the true master of enlightenment.

    but nooo... you just couldn't let go of that big bug up yo ass you gots about poor old slider for some whatever undeclared reason, it just wont go away... (geez even thang picked-up on it and he's not particularly perceptive)

    Thang took the death shot, maybe he croaked.


    and so now ya sound just LIKE... jeremy???


    You always say that too, it's a ego defense program
    in your head to avoid honest emotions.
    Abandonment is your fatal injury.


    and we ALL know what a fuckin' gaslighting-idiot HE was LOL ! :)))


    Jeremy is Jeremy.
    The fire of judgement burns both accuser and accused.

    "Borderline personality disorder (BPD), also known as emotionally
    unstable personality disorder (EUPD)[9] or borderline pattern personality disorder is a personality disorder characterized by a long-term pattern of unstable interpersonal relationships, distorted sense of self, and strong emotional reactions"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder


    i mean... if'n ya wanted to break friends then that's all ya had to say?
    be adult about it!

    not pissing & moaning about slider this and slider that, for months on
    end, without ever explaining why while i just laffed it all off in good humour, you being content to cowardly snipe and gaslight from the shadows
    at each and every opportunity regardless of the subject matter??

    Why use the adjective "Cowardly"


    and well... at least NOW you're being a bit more HONEST about it, and if THAT's what ya want...

    then fine.

    You can't leave this ADC group.
    This silly collection of links and files
    is the only map you have of your inner
    world and how it came to be formed.

    []

    Folie à deux ('folly of two', or 'madness [shared] by two'),
    also known as shared psychosis[2] or shared delusional disorder (SDD),
    is a psychiatric syndrome in which symptoms of a delusional belief, and sometimes hallucinations, are transmitted from one individual to another.
    The same syndrome shared by more than two people may be called folie à... trois ('three')
    or quatre ('four'); and further, folie en famille ('family madness')
    or even folie à plusieurs ('madness of several').

    The disorder was first conceptualized in 19th-century French psychiatry
    by Charles Lasègue and Jules Falret and is also known as Lasègue–Falret syndrome.[3][6]

    Recent psychiatric classifications refer to the syndrome as shared psychotic disorder
    (DSM-4 – 297.3) and induced delusional disorder (ICD-10 – F24), although the research literature
    largely uses the original name.

    []


    that's all ya had to say + ya wont get no arguments from moi about that other than my asking/checking one-time if you're sure...

    so are ya sure you're sure??

    Slider screams "DON'T LEAVE ME"
    Chris was like the kid in school, who
    convinced the retarded kid to do something silly.
    Slagging off a belief system and it's creator.

    But his (Chris) burdens and baggage prevented him from seeing
    that you would become trapped in this group and stuck
    with Chris as your reality anchor.

    Your not a bad person, but you are confused, very confused.
    You became what you hated, a cult leader, for a few stray souls.


    then ok, look after yerself matey, it was good while it lasted. (after all 20 years ain't bad!)


    Everything has a beginning, middle and an end.
    Neither you or Chris shall ever leave, nor shall I.
    I invested in Charlie, he brought me out of the desert.
    That equation cost him and his cohorts a life or two.
    Yet, "What saves you today can kill you tomorrow."
    So I am not steeped in false bravado and debts of guilt.
    The artworks and products produced retain their value.
    Only the truly desperate can find the hidden secret keys.


    plus am still be here if'n ya ever fancy a chat sometime...

    Hotel Kalifornication, young Slidey Perps.


    take care + may your god(s) go with you :)

    What you fellas need is a common enemy.
    I brought three spikes and two 10X3's, crucify me.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/TsdTTHJteilw/

    You were both stupid enough to take the shot.

    Slider, Trump is the previous battlefield.
    The war never stops and your body is infected.
    I had Covid and recovered and delighted in your
    punishments, retributions and deterrence.
    Twenty years is a long time to carry a grudge
    and wait for the right moment to strike.
    But you expended the energy you needed for
    the real battle. Hector V. Percival.
    Your death shot was made from Hector's flesh.
    He was murdered at four months gestation.
    Outside the womb, his heart still palpitating,
    They harvested his flesh and body parts.

    In this world the only way to think for yourself
    is to use the human brain to build a strong mind.
    You have no mind, you are a collection of random
    events and the electrical impulses they generate.

    I am still and shall remain undefeated.
    Each time nature forced me to adapt, I did.
    I can live in her world, but she can't survive mine.
    I have her surrounded by uncountable nodes-ships.
    Earth is the disease, I am the immune response.
    A nucleus of a cosmic cell imprisoned eternally.

    "You can see the stars but still not see the light"

    T.S. Elliot "The Hollow Men" by Brando https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeHO1r8paU

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

    Have a nice weekend both of you.
    Back at your desks 9:00 sharp on Monday.

    []
    ...
    ???
    Go
    A prayer of True Self Balance for B. & C.
    Agrred 3X
    Out
    Out
    All Transit 64
    Prime Junction
    All Transit 64
    Half Close
    Soft Break
    Full Close
    Hard Break
    ..?
    What
    Link please
    Agreed

    []

    This link explains the rationale behind Charlie's artwork, and my three primary quantum computers.
    Lot of good links in the tabs. Have you forgotten how to argue Brian, drifting in The Nothing.

    Specific Link https://academyofideas.com/2020/03/using-a-second-self-to-promote-self-transformation/

    “Everyone holds his future in his own hands, like a sculptor the raw material he will fashion into a figure. But it’s the same with that type of artistic activity as with all others: We are merely born with the capability to do it. The skill to
    mold the material into what we want must be learned and attentively cultivated.”
    Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    Goethe believed that “the highest joy of man should be the growth of personality.” But he also realized that the ability to achieve this task does not come naturally. We must learn for ourselves how to a sculpt a great character and this requires a
    willingness to experiment with some of the techniques that others have devised for this purpose. In our previous two membership videos on Carl Jung and the Cultivation of Character we discussed some of Jung’s insights on this task. In this video we
    will examine a technique for sculpting our character which Jung never touched on, but which is especially useful for those of us who feel more defined by hatred for who we are, than by any greatness of the self.

    Self-hatred is a debilitating state to exist in. For with self-hatred comes a whole plethora of distressing emotions – guilt, shame, anxiety and regret being primary among them. To cope with these emotions most people resort to what is called self-
    suppressive escapism. Self-suppressive escapism can take many forms, be it drug and alcohol abuse, eating disorders, social media, pornography, or video game addictions, or a compulsive need to always be working or socializing. What all these behaviours
    share is that they induce a cognitive narrowing whereby both the awareness of our self and our critical evaluation of it is suppressed. Or as the authors of the paper Activity Engagement as Escape From Self explain:

    “Self-suppression, as well as the motivation to experience cognitive narrowing by means of these acts, may be interpreted as efforts for detaching oneself from disturbing elements of the self. When self-awareness becomes painful, activities that
    demand concrete actions are enacted in order to reduce negative affects.”
    P. Kraft, J. Rise, F. Stenseng, Activity Engagement as Escape From Self

    The desire to escape that drives self-suppressive behaviours is not misguided. We should want to escape from a sense of self that is causing us to suffer and limiting the possibilities of our life. The problem, however, is that self-suppressive escapism
    is like spraying perfume on a dirty set of clothes. It may divert our attention from our psychological pain in the short-term, but over time it only exacerbates our underlying issues. What those of us who feel compelled to escape need are not behaviours
    that make us forget who we are but a new self to escape to, we need what the Roman philosopher Cicero called a second self. What is a second self, how do we create one and how does it help us develop our personality? These are the questions we will now
    address.

    Using a second self as a means to escape from self-hatred is built around the idea that we can, in the words of Karl Popper, be “active makers of ourselves” (Karl Popper) and that so doing is best accomplished by using the methods that gave birth to
    our initial sense of self, namely emulation and imitation. For who we are now was shaped by many forces but primary among them were our role models. We looked to our role models for guidance, we copied their strategies for dealing with the challenges of
    life and their feedback, whether positive or negative, helped shape who we are now.

    If self-hatred fills our days it is likely that one of the reasons for this is that we lacked empowering role models. This is a deficit that the creation of a second self can fill. For our second self is simply an alter ego we create after studying the
    lives of great individuals and which we then use as an ideal around which to shape new patterns of thought and behaviour. Our second self, in other words, is who we would be if our life had been spent emulating empowering role models rather than having
    been sculpted by the role models we were given.

    The construction of a second self begins with a search for people we deem worthy of our emulation. We may not know anyone personally who fits this bill, but there are countless great figures of the past or present who will. After choosing a handful of
    role models we should then spend time studying their lives. We want to know what it is that made them great, what personality traits they cultivated, how they dealt with adversity, and how they overcame challenges.

    “A wise man ought always to follow the paths beaten by great men, and to imitate those who have been supreme, so that if his ability does not equal theirs, at least it will savour of it. Let him act like the clever archers who, designing to hit
    the mark which yet appears too far distant, and knowing the limits to which the strength of their bow attains, take aim much higher than the mark, not to reach by their strength or arrow to so great a height, but to be able with the aid of so high an aim
    to hit the mark they wish to reach.”
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

    In the construction of our second self, however, we should be careful not to make the mistake of completely ignoring who we are now. Our second self should not completely flaunt reality, nor fight nature. We need to be aware of our innate strengths and
    weaknesses and integrate these into our conception of our second self. An important characteristic of any second self, therefore, should be the ability to accept that which cannot be changed.

    Once we have formulated an idea of who we would like to become, we should go as far as to write out a character sketch of our second self. What are the defining traits of this person? How does he or she differ from the way we behave now and how would he
    or she react to the challenges we currently face? This process of putting pen to paper can make our second self feel more real and will provide us with important information for the second stage of this process which is to use our second self as a
    healthy means of escapism. Our second self must become our alter ego and our goal should be to spend more time behaving like the person we want to become and less time behaving as the self we are now.

    One approach we can use to achieve this feat was developed by the psychologist George Kelly and is called ‘fixed-role therapy’. Fixed-role therapy is a psychotherapeutic technique whereby a person is asked to write out a character sketch of someone
    they would be interested in becoming, a person who differs in at least one significant way from who they are now. Once this alternate sense of self is created, which in our case is our second self, the next step, as Michael Mahoney explains:

    “. . .is to make an important, time-limited commitment in the form of a secret personal experiment. The experiment is to act “as if” he were this other character for a few weeks. Kelly stresses that once the client agrees to the experiment, it
    is important that it begin immediately . . . Importantly, the client does not inform anyone about the experiment. Clients’ desires to share the secret with their friends or spouses are natural expressions of their anxiety or confusion in a novel
    situation. However, Kelly argues that the enactment would become simply an exercise in acting if others were aware of its temporary and pretend nature. When the client receives feedback that he seems to be acting differently or strangely, that is
    construed to mean that he is successful in his enactment.”
    Michael Mahoney, Constructive Psychotherapy


    [continued in next message]

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  • From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 12, 2021 15:45:00
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:46:24 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    always pissed about summat these days wrote...

    you're full of shit. shut the fuck up.

    ### - lol you can dish it out can't ya but ya sho' can't take it haha :)

    so WHOSE the one with the BIG self-important EGO now?? LOL :)))

    baiting me & baiting me, on & on, for months!?

    i even warned/advised ya (between the lines/indirectly recently) to let it >go?

    but nooo... you just couldn't let go of that big bug up yo ass you gots
    about poor old slider for some whatever undeclared reason, it just wont go >away... (geez even thang picked-up on it and he's not particularly >perceptive)

    and so now ya sound just LIKE... jeremy???

    and we ALL know what a fuckin' gaslighting-idiot HE was LOL ! :)))

    i mean... if'n ya wanted to break friends then that's all ya had to say?
    be adult about it!

    not pissing & moaning about slider this and slider that, for months on
    end, without ever explaining why while i just laffed it all off in good >humour, you being content to cowardly snipe and gaslight from the shadows
    at each and every opportunity regardless of the subject matter??

    and well... at least NOW you're being a bit more HONEST about it, and if >THAT's what ya want...

    then fine.

    that's all ya had to say + ya wont get no arguments from moi about that
    other than my asking/checking one-time if you're sure...

    so are ya sure you're sure??

    then ok, look after yerself matey, it was good while it lasted. (after all
    20 years ain't bad!)

    plus am still be here if'n ya ever fancy a chat sometime...

    take care + may your god(s) go with you :)

    WTF? He hasn't been baiting you, it's the reverse, you baiting him.
    Just cool your heels and talk about the weather or the races for a
    while.

    He's getting pissed off, I can see that, don't alienate everyone.

    This, for your own good.



    --
    This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus

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  • From o'Mahoney@1:229/2 to intraphase@gmail.com on Thursday, August 12, 2021 15:55:07
    From: libertidad@south.south.com

    On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 08:54:02 -0700 (PDT), LowRider44M
    <intraphase@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 1:46:31 PM UTC-4, slider wrote:
    always pissed about summat these days wrote...
    you're full of shit. shut the fuck up.
    ### - lol you can dish it out can't ya but ya sho' can't take it haha :)

    so WHOSE the one with the BIG self-important EGO now?? LOL :)))

    baiting me & baiting me, on & on, for months!?

    That's paranoia from becoming a fourth rate cult leader.


    i even warned/advised ya (between the lines/indirectly recently) to let it >> go?


    How dare he oppose the true master of enlightenment.

    but nooo... you just couldn't let go of that big bug up yo ass you gots
    about poor old slider for some whatever undeclared reason, it just wont go >> away... (geez even thang picked-up on it and he's not particularly
    perceptive)

    Thang took the death shot, maybe he croaked.

    Thanks very much. Not *quite* dead yet, close but not there. Close
    enough to wonder what it's like often and start tidying up my affairs
    (to make it easier on wifey if I go first and keep my bloody relatives
    from having too easy a time picking over the remains) lol.




    and so now ya sound just LIKE... jeremy???


    You always say that too, it's a ego defense program
    in your head to avoid honest emotions.
    Abandonment is your fatal injury.


    and we ALL know what a fuckin' gaslighting-idiot HE was LOL ! :)))


    Jeremy is Jeremy.
    The fire of judgement burns both accuser and accused.

    Those who bandy around the term "gaslighting" need to look at its
    origina, in the movie Gaslight 1945.

    Here's a bit torrent link (magnet) for anyone who wants to download it
    and experience exactly what it means:

    magnet:?xt=urn:btih:AF1DDFD1A8002969329B4E7A49BA6F8F9E9F8AF3&dn=Gaslight+%281944%29+%5BBluRay%5D+%5B720p%5D+%5BYTS%5D+%5BYIFY%5D&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2F9.rarbg.com%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fp4p.
    arenabg.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.internetwarriors.net%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%
    2Ftracker.opentrackr.org%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.zer0day.to%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fcoppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce

    Here's a precis of the plot:

    "In the late 19th century, Paula Alquist is studying music in Italy,
    but ends up abandoning her classes because she's fallen in love with
    the gallant Gregory Anton. The couple marries and moves to England to
    live in a home inherited by Paula from her aunt, herself a famous
    singer, who was mysteriously murdered in the house ten years before.
    Once they have moved in, Gregory, who is in reality a jewel thief and
    the murderer of Paula's aunt, launches a campaign of terror designed
    to drive his new bride insane. Though Paula is certain that she sees
    the house's gaslights dim every evening and that there are strange
    noises coming from the attic, Gregory convinces Paula that she's
    imagining things. Gregory's efforts to make Paula unstable are aided
    by an impertinent maid, Nancy. Meanwhile, a Scotland Yard inspector,
    Brian Cameron, becomes suspicious of Gregory and sympathetic to
    Paula's plight."

    For the record, I never thought anyone here ever tried to "gaslight"
    anyone else. Certainly, Dave never did and nor did Chris. I never
    bothered, I try to stick to the facts.



    "Borderline personality disorder (BPD), also known as emotionally
    unstable personality disorder (EUPD)[9] or borderline pattern personality >disorder is a personality disorder characterized by a long-term pattern of >unstable interpersonal relationships, distorted sense of self, and strong emotional reactions"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_personality_disorder


    i mean... if'n ya wanted to break friends then that's all ya had to say?
    be adult about it!

    not pissing & moaning about slider this and slider that, for months on
    end, without ever explaining why while i just laffed it all off in good
    humour, you being content to cowardly snipe and gaslight from the shadows
    at each and every opportunity regardless of the subject matter??

    Why use the adjective "Cowardly"


    and well... at least NOW you're being a bit more HONEST about it, and if
    THAT's what ya want...

    then fine.

    You can't leave this ADC group.
    This silly collection of links and files
    is the only map you have of your inner
    world and how it came to be formed.

    Probably I have that issue as well, being a full on nerd and early
    uptaker of Usenet (like late 80's believe it or not).



    []

    Folie à deux ('folly of two', or 'madness [shared] by two'),
    also known as shared psychosis[2] or shared delusional disorder (SDD),
    is a psychiatric syndrome in which symptoms of a delusional belief, and >sometimes hallucinations, are transmitted from one individual to another.
    The same syndrome shared by more than two people may be called folie à... trois ('three')
    or quatre ('four'); and further, folie en famille ('family madness')
    or even folie à plusieurs ('madness of several').

    The disorder was first conceptualized in 19th-century French psychiatry
    by Charles Lasègue and Jules Falret and is also known as Lasègue–Falret syndrome.[3][6]

    Recent psychiatric classifications refer to the syndrome as shared psychotic disorder
    (DSM-4 – 297.3) and induced delusional disorder (ICD-10 – F24), although the research literature
    largely uses the original name.

    []


    that's all ya had to say + ya wont get no arguments from moi about that
    other than my asking/checking one-time if you're sure...

    so are ya sure you're sure??

    Slider screams "DON'T LEAVE ME"
    Chris was like the kid in school, who
    convinced the retarded kid to do something silly.
    Slagging off a belief system and it's creator.

    But his (Chris) burdens and baggage prevented him from seeing
    that you would become trapped in this group and stuck
    with Chris as your reality anchor.

    Your not a bad person, but you are confused, very confused.
    You became what you hated, a cult leader, for a few stray souls.


    then ok, look after yerself matey, it was good while it lasted. (after all >> 20 years ain't bad!)


    Everything has a beginning, middle and an end.
    Neither you or Chris shall ever leave, nor shall I.
    I invested in Charlie, he brought me out of the desert.
    That equation cost him and his cohorts a life or two.
    Yet, "What saves you today can kill you tomorrow."
    So I am not steeped in false bravado and debts of guilt.
    The artworks and products produced retain their value.
    Only the truly desperate can find the hidden secret keys.


    plus am still be here if'n ya ever fancy a chat sometime...

    Hotel Kalifornication, young Slidey Perps.


    take care + may your god(s) go with you :)

    What you fellas need is a common enemy.
    I brought three spikes and two 10X3's, crucify me.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/TsdTTHJteilw/

    You were both stupid enough to take the shot.

    Slider, Trump is the previous battlefield.
    The war never stops and your body is infected.
    I had Covid and recovered and delighted in your
    punishments, retributions and deterrence.
    Twenty years is a long time to carry a grudge
    and wait for the right moment to strike.
    But you expended the energy you needed for
    the real battle. Hector V. Percival.
    Your death shot was made from Hector's flesh.
    He was murdered at four months gestation.
    Outside the womb, his heart still palpitating,
    They harvested his flesh and body parts.

    In this world the only way to think for yourself
    is to use the human brain to build a strong mind.
    You have no mind, you are a collection of random
    events and the electrical impulses they generate.

    I am still and shall remain undefeated.
    Each time nature forced me to adapt, I did.
    I can live in her world, but she can't survive mine.
    I have her surrounded by uncountable nodes-ships.
    Earth is the disease, I am the immune response.
    A nucleus of a cosmic cell imprisoned eternally.

    "You can see the stars but still not see the light"

    T.S. Elliot "The Hollow Men" by Brando >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPeHO1r8paU

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele

    Have a nice weekend both of you.
    Back at your desks 9:00 sharp on Monday.

    []
    ...
    ???
    Go
    A prayer of True Self Balance for B. & C.
    Agrred 3X
    Out
    Out
    All Transit 64
    Prime Junction
    All Transit 64
    Half Close
    Soft Break
    Full Close
    Hard Break
    ..?
    What
    Link please
    Agreed

    []

    This link explains the rationale behind Charlie's artwork, and my three primary quantum computers.
    Lot of good links in the tabs. Have you forgotten how to argue Brian, drifting in The Nothing.

    Specific Link >https://academyofideas.com/2020/03/using-a-second-self-to-promote-self-transformation/

    “Everyone holds his future in his own hands, like a sculptor the raw material he will fashion into a figure. But it’s the same with that type of artistic activity as with all others: We are merely born with the capability to do it. The skill to
    mold the material into what we want must be learned and attentively cultivated.”
    Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

    Goethe believed that “the highest joy of man should be the growth of personality.” But he also realized that the ability to achieve this task does not come naturally. We must learn for ourselves how to a sculpt a great character and this requires a
    willingness to experiment with some of the techniques that others have devised for
    this purpose. In our previous two membership videos on Carl Jung and the Cultivation of Character we discussed some of Jung’s insights on this task. In this video we will examine a technique for sculpting our character which Jung never touched on, but
    which is especially useful for those of us who feel more defined by hatred for who we are, than by any greatness of the self.

    Self-hatred is a debilitating state to exist in. For with self-hatred comes a whole plethora of distressing emotions – guilt, shame, anxiety and regret being primary among them. To cope with these emotions most people resort to what is called self-
    suppressive escapism. Self-suppressive escapism can take many forms, be it drug and
    alcohol abuse, eating disorders, social media, pornography, or video game addictions, or a compulsive need to always be working or socializing. What all these behaviours share is that they induce a cognitive narrowing whereby both the awareness of our
    self and our critical evaluation of it is suppressed. Or as the authors of the paper Activity Engagement as Escape From Self explain:

    “Self-suppression, as well as the motivation to experience cognitive narrowing by means of these acts, may be interpreted as efforts for detaching oneself from disturbing elements of the self. When self-awareness becomes painful, activities that
    demand concrete actions are enacted in order to reduce negative affects.”
    P. Kraft, J. Rise, F. Stenseng, Activity Engagement as Escape From Self

    The desire to escape that drives self-suppressive behaviours is not misguided. We should want to escape from a sense of self that is causing us to suffer and limiting the possibilities of our life. The problem, however, is that self-suppressive escapism
    is like spraying perfume on a dirty set of clothes. It may divert our
    attention from our psychological pain in the short-term, but over time it only exacerbates our underlying issues. What those of us who feel compelled to escape need are not behaviours that make us forget who we are but a new self to escape to, we need
    what the Roman philosopher Cicero called a second self. What is a second self, how do we create one and how does it help us develop our personality? These are the questions we will now address.

    Using a second self as a means to escape from self-hatred is built around the idea that we can, in the words of Karl Popper, be “active makers of ourselves” (Karl Popper) and that so doing is best accomplished by using the methods that gave birth to
    our initial sense of self, namely emulation and imitation. For who we are now was
    shaped by many forces but primary among them were our role models. We looked to our role models for guidance, we copied their strategies for dealing with the challenges of life and their feedback, whether positive or negative, helped shape who we are now.

    If self-hatred fills our days it is likely that one of the reasons for this is that we lacked empowering role models. This is a deficit that the creation of a second self can fill. For our second self is simply an alter ego we create after studying the
    lives of great individuals and which we then use as an ideal around which to shape new patterns of thought and behaviour. Our second self, in other words, is who we would be if our life had been spent emulating empowering role models rather than having been sculpted by the role models we were given.

    The construction of a second self begins with a search for people we deem worthy of our emulation. We may not know anyone personally who fits this bill, but there are countless great figures of the past or present who will. After choosing a handful of
    role models we should then spend time studying their lives. We want to know what
    it is that made them great, what personality traits they cultivated, how they dealt with adversity, and how they overcame challenges.

    “A wise man ought always to follow the paths beaten by great men, and to imitate those who have been supreme, so that if his ability does not equal theirs, at least it will savour of it. Let him act like the clever archers who, designing to hit
    the mark which yet appears too far distant, and knowing the limits to which the strength of their bow attains, take aim much higher than the mark, not to reach by their strength or arrow to so great a height, but to be able with the aid of so high an aim to hit the mark they wish to reach.”
    Niccolò Machiavelli, The Prince

    In the construction of our second self, however, we should be careful not to make the mistake of completely ignoring who we are now. Our second self should not completely flaunt reality, nor fight nature. We need to be aware of our innate strengths and
    weaknesses and integrate these into our conception of our second self. An important characteristic of any second self, therefore, should be the ability to accept that which cannot be changed.

    Once we have formulated an idea of who we would like to become, we should go as far as to write out a character sketch of our second self. What are the defining traits of this person? How does he or she differ from the way we behave now and how would he
    or she react to the challenges we currently face? This process of putting pen

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  • From slider@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 12, 2021 15:30:26
    From: slider@anashram.com

    On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:45:00 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 06 Aug 2021 18:46:24 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
    wrote:

    always pissed about summat these days wrote...

    you're full of shit. shut the fuck up.

    ### - lol you can dish it out can't ya but ya sho' can't take it haha :)

    so WHOSE the one with the BIG self-important EGO now?? LOL :)))

    baiting me & baiting me, on & on, for months!?

    i even warned/advised ya (between the lines/indirectly recently) to let
    it
    go?

    but nooo... you just couldn't let go of that big bug up yo ass you gots
    about poor old slider for some whatever undeclared reason, it just wont
    go
    away... (geez even thang picked-up on it and he's not particularly
    perceptive)

    and so now ya sound just LIKE... jeremy???

    and we ALL know what a fuckin' gaslighting-idiot HE was LOL ! :)))

    i mean... if'n ya wanted to break friends then that's all ya had to say?
    be adult about it!

    not pissing & moaning about slider this and slider that, for months on
    end, without ever explaining why while i just laffed it all off in good
    humour, you being content to cowardly snipe and gaslight from the
    shadows
    at each and every opportunity regardless of the subject matter??

    and well... at least NOW you're being a bit more HONEST about it, and if
    THAT's what ya want...

    then fine.

    that's all ya had to say + ya wont get no arguments from moi about that
    other than my asking/checking one-time if you're sure...

    so are ya sure you're sure??

    then ok, look after yerself matey, it was good while it lasted. (after
    all
    20 years ain't bad!)

    plus am still be here if'n ya ever fancy a chat sometime...

    take care + may your god(s) go with you :)

    WTF? He hasn't been baiting you, it's the reverse, you baiting him.
    Just cool your heels and talk about the weather or the races for a
    while.

    He's getting pissed off, I can see that, don't alienate everyone.

    This, for your own good.

    ### - oh he's been spoiling for a fight for the longest time thang...

    and now we've HAD our fight that's the end of it huh, perhaps he'll let it go...

    (i simply stopped playing)

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