A newly released memo shows that Trump told the acting attorney general: >‘Just say the election was corrupt [and] leave the rest to me and the >[Republican] congressmen’
We’ve become so inured to Donald Trump’s proto-fascism that we barely >blink an eye when we learn that he tried to manipulate the 2020 election.
Yet the most recent revelation should frighten every American to their
core.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/03/donald-trump-memo-election-corrupt-justice-department
On Friday, the House oversight committee released notes of a 27 December >telephone call from Trump to then acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen,
in which Trump told Rosen: “Just say the election was corrupt + leave the >rest to me and the R congressmen.” The notes were taken by Richard >Donoghue, Rosen’s deputy, who was also on the call.
The release of these notes has barely made a stir. The weekend news was >filled with more immediate things – infrastructure! The Delta strain! >Inflation! Wildfires! In light of everything else going on, Trump’s
bizarre efforts in the last weeks of his presidency seem wearily
irrelevant. Didn’t we already know how desperate he was?
In a word, no. This revelation is hugely important.
Rosen obviously rejected Trump’s request. But what if Rosen had obeyed >Trump and said to the American public that the election was corrupt – and >then “left the rest” to Trump and the Republican congressmen? What would >Trump’s and the Republicans’ next moves have been? And which Republican >congressmen were in cahoots with Trump in this attempted coup d’état?
Make no mistake: this was an attempted coup.
Trump knew it. Just weeks earlier, then attorney general William Barr said >the justice department had found no evidence of widespread fraud that
could have overturned the results.
And a few days after Trump’s call to Rosen – on 2 January – Trump told >Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, to “find” votes to >change the election outcome. He berated Raffensperger for not doing more
to overturn the election.
Emails released last month also show that Trump and his allies in the last >weeks of his presidency pressured the justice department to investigate >totally unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud – forwarding >them conspiracy theories and even a draft legal brief they hoped would be >filed with the supreme court.
Some people, especially Republican officeholders, believe we should simply >forget these sordid details. We must not.
For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have a >peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a >president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to claim, >with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For the >first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his own >pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president and >then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was swept >into the dustbin of history.
We might then merely regret this temporary lapse in American presidential >history. At best, Trump would be seen as a fool and the whole affair an >embarrassment to the country.
But Trump was no accident and he’s not in any dustbin. He has turned one
of America’s two major parties into his own cult. He has cast the major >political division in the US as a clash between those who believe him
about the 2020 election and those who do not. He has emboldened state >Republicans to execute the most brazen attack on voting rights since Jim >Crow. Most Republican senators and representatives dare not cross him.
Some of his followers continue to threaten violence against the
government. By all accounts, he is running for president again in 2024.
Donald Trump’s proto-fascism poses the largest internal threat to American >democracy since the civil war.
What to do about it? Fight it, and the sooner the better.
This final revelation – Trump’s 27 December call to the acting attorney >general in which he pleads “Just say the election was corrupt + leave the >rest to me” – should trigger section 3 of the 14th amendment, which bars >anyone from holding office who “engaged in insurrection” against the US. >The current attorney general of the United States, Merrick Garland, should >issue an advisory opinion clearly stating this. If Trump wants to take it
to the supreme court, fine.
### - quote from above:
"For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have a >peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a >president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to claim, >with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For the >first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his own >pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president and >then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was swept >into the dustbin of history."
haha this 'very clearly' saying it all then, no?
the 'dustbin of history' clearly being where he belongs along with all
other wannabe dictators & tyrants to-boot...
thus humanity is clearly at a crucial turning point in its history, the
road we go down 'now' determining our ultimate fate.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
--Robert Frost
On Tue, 03 Aug 2021 17:00:18 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
A newly released memo shows that Trump told the acting attorney general:
‘Just say the election was corrupt [and] leave the rest to me and the
[Republican] congressmen’
We’ve become so inured to Donald Trump’s proto-fascism that we barely
blink an eye when we learn that he tried to manipulate the 2020
election.
Yet the most recent revelation should frighten every American to their
core.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/03/donald-trump-memo-election-corrupt-justice-department
On Friday, the House oversight committee released notes of a 27 December
telephone call from Trump to then acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen,
in which Trump told Rosen: “Just say the election was corrupt + leave
the
rest to me and the R congressmen.” The notes were taken by Richard
Donoghue, Rosen’s deputy, who was also on the call.
The release of these notes has barely made a stir. The weekend news was
filled with more immediate things – infrastructure! The Delta strain!
Inflation! Wildfires! In light of everything else going on, Trump’s
bizarre efforts in the last weeks of his presidency seem wearily
irrelevant. Didn’t we already know how desperate he was?
In a word, no. This revelation is hugely important.
Rosen obviously rejected Trump’s request. But what if Rosen had obeyed
Trump and said to the American public that the election was corrupt –
and
then “left the rest” to Trump and the Republican congressmen? What would >> Trump’s and the Republicans’ next moves have been? And which Republican >> congressmen were in cahoots with Trump in this attempted coup d’état?
Make no mistake: this was an attempted coup.
Trump knew it. Just weeks earlier, then attorney general William Barr
said
the justice department had found no evidence of widespread fraud that
could have overturned the results.
And a few days after Trump’s call to Rosen – on 2 January – Trump told >> Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, to “find” votes to >> change the election outcome. He berated Raffensperger for not doing more
to overturn the election.
Emails released last month also show that Trump and his allies in the
last
weeks of his presidency pressured the justice department to investigate
totally unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud – forwarding >> them conspiracy theories and even a draft legal brief they hoped would
be
filed with the supreme court.
Some people, especially Republican officeholders, believe we should
simply
forget these sordid details. We must not.
For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have a
peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a
president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to claim, >> with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For the >> first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his
own
pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president
and
then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was swept
into the dustbin of history.
We might then merely regret this temporary lapse in American
presidential
history. At best, Trump would be seen as a fool and the whole affair an
embarrassment to the country.
But Trump was no accident and he’s not in any dustbin. He has turned one >> of America’s two major parties into his own cult. He has cast the major
political division in the US as a clash between those who believe him
about the 2020 election and those who do not. He has emboldened state
Republicans to execute the most brazen attack on voting rights since Jim
Crow. Most Republican senators and representatives dare not cross him.
Some of his followers continue to threaten violence against the
government. By all accounts, he is running for president again in 2024.
Donald Trump’s proto-fascism poses the largest internal threat to
American
democracy since the civil war.
What to do about it? Fight it, and the sooner the better.
This final revelation – Trump’s 27 December call to the acting attorney >> general in which he pleads “Just say the election was corrupt + leave
the
rest to me” – should trigger section 3 of the 14th amendment, which bars >> anyone from holding office who “engaged in insurrection” against the US. >> The current attorney general of the United States, Merrick Garland,
should
issue an advisory opinion clearly stating this. If Trump wants to take
it
to the supreme court, fine.
### - quote from above:
"For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have
a
peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a
president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to claim, >> with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For the >> first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his
own
pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president
and
then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was swept
into the dustbin of history."
haha this 'very clearly' saying it all then, no?
the 'dustbin of history' clearly being where he belongs along with all
other wannabe dictators & tyrants to-boot...
thus humanity is clearly at a crucial turning point in its history, the
road we go down 'now' determining our ultimate fate.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
--Robert Frost
HoHum... give it a rest Brian, Trump is gone for good and will never
be back. Old, stupid and most likely extremely unhealthy. The Don is
Done.
Perhaps he can get a part time job as a clown in one of the few
remaining circuses....
On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:23:54 +0100, o'Mahoney <libertidad@south.south.com> >wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2021 17:00:18 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
A newly released memo shows that Trump told the acting attorney general: >>> ‘Just say the election was corrupt [and] leave the rest to me and the
[Republican] congressmen’
We’ve become so inured to Donald Trump’s proto-fascism that we barely >>> blink an eye when we learn that he tried to manipulate the 2020
election.
Yet the most recent revelation should frighten every American to their
core.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/03/donald-trump-memo-election-corrupt-justice-department
On Friday, the House oversight committee released notes of a 27 December >>> telephone call from Trump to then acting attorney general Jeffrey Rosen, >>> in which Trump told Rosen: “Just say the election was corrupt + leave
the
rest to me and the R congressmen.” The notes were taken by Richard
Donoghue, Rosen’s deputy, who was also on the call.
The release of these notes has barely made a stir. The weekend news was
filled with more immediate things – infrastructure! The Delta strain!
Inflation! Wildfires! In light of everything else going on, Trump’s
bizarre efforts in the last weeks of his presidency seem wearily
irrelevant. Didn’t we already know how desperate he was?
In a word, no. This revelation is hugely important.
Rosen obviously rejected Trump’s request. But what if Rosen had obeyed >>> Trump and said to the American public that the election was corrupt –
and
then “left the rest” to Trump and the Republican congressmen? What would
Trump’s and the Republicans’ next moves have been? And which Republican >>> congressmen were in cahoots with Trump in this attempted coup d’état? >>>
Make no mistake: this was an attempted coup.
Trump knew it. Just weeks earlier, then attorney general William Barr
said
the justice department had found no evidence of widespread fraud that
could have overturned the results.
And a few days after Trump’s call to Rosen – on 2 January – Trump told
Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, to “find” votes to >>> change the election outcome. He berated Raffensperger for not doing more >>> to overturn the election.
Emails released last month also show that Trump and his allies in the
last
weeks of his presidency pressured the justice department to investigate
totally unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud – forwarding >>> them conspiracy theories and even a draft legal brief they hoped would
be
filed with the supreme court.
Some people, especially Republican officeholders, believe we should
simply
forget these sordid details. We must not.
For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have a >>> peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a
president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to claim, >>> with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For the >>> first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his
own
pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president >>> and
then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was swept >>> into the dustbin of history.
We might then merely regret this temporary lapse in American
presidential
history. At best, Trump would be seen as a fool and the whole affair an
embarrassment to the country.
But Trump was no accident and he’s not in any dustbin. He has turned one >>> of America’s two major parties into his own cult. He has cast the major >>> political division in the US as a clash between those who believe him
about the 2020 election and those who do not. He has emboldened state
Republicans to execute the most brazen attack on voting rights since Jim >>> Crow. Most Republican senators and representatives dare not cross him.
Some of his followers continue to threaten violence against the
government. By all accounts, he is running for president again in 2024.
Donald Trump’s proto-fascism poses the largest internal threat to
American
democracy since the civil war.
What to do about it? Fight it, and the sooner the better.
This final revelation – Trump’s 27 December call to the acting attorney >>> general in which he pleads “Just say the election was corrupt + leave
the
rest to me” – should trigger section 3 of the 14th amendment, which bars
anyone from holding office who “engaged in insurrection” against the US.
The current attorney general of the United States, Merrick Garland,
should
issue an advisory opinion clearly stating this. If Trump wants to take
it
to the supreme court, fine.
### - quote from above:
"For the first time in the history of the United States we did not have
a
peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history, a
president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to claim, >>> with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For the >>> first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his
own
pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president >>> and
then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was swept >>> into the dustbin of history."
haha this 'very clearly' saying it all then, no?
the 'dustbin of history' clearly being where he belongs along with all
other wannabe dictators & tyrants to-boot...
thus humanity is clearly at a crucial turning point in its history, the
road we go down 'now' determining our ultimate fate.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
--Robert Frost
HoHum... give it a rest Brian, Trump is gone for good and will never
be back. Old, stupid and most likely extremely unhealthy. The Don is
Done.
Perhaps he can get a part time job as a clown in one of the few
remaining circuses....
### - oh he's not finished with his tricks yet hah! he's had a taste of >big-power and likes it too much to ever go back to just being some
chatshow celebrity now heh, not a chance...
not with 74 million loony supporters still behind him he wont!
(the best we can hope is he croaks it? or he's gonna be there stirring-it
for years!)
On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 15:19:28 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Aug 2021 08:23:54 +0100, o'Mahoney
<libertidad@south.south.com>
wrote:
On Tue, 03 Aug 2021 17:00:18 +0100, slider <slider@anashram.com>
wrote:
A newly released memo shows that Trump told the acting attorney
general:
‘Just say the election was corrupt [and] leave the rest to me and the >>>> [Republican] congressmen’
We’ve become so inured to Donald Trump’s proto-fascism that we barely >>>> blink an eye when we learn that he tried to manipulate the 2020
election.
Yet the most recent revelation should frighten every American to their >>>> core.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/03/donald-trump-memo-election-corrupt-justice-department
On Friday, the House oversight committee released notes of a 27
December
telephone call from Trump to then acting attorney general Jeffrey
Rosen,
in which Trump told Rosen: “Just say the election was corrupt + leave >>>> the
rest to me and the R congressmen.” The notes were taken by Richard
Donoghue, Rosen’s deputy, who was also on the call.
The release of these notes has barely made a stir. The weekend news
was
filled with more immediate things – infrastructure! The Delta strain! >>>> Inflation! Wildfires! In light of everything else going on, Trump’s
bizarre efforts in the last weeks of his presidency seem wearily
irrelevant. Didn’t we already know how desperate he was?
In a word, no. This revelation is hugely important.
Rosen obviously rejected Trump’s request. But what if Rosen had obeyed >>>> Trump and said to the American public that the election was corrupt – >>>> and
then “left the rest” to Trump and the Republican congressmen? What >>>> would
Trump’s and the Republicans’ next moves have been? And which
Republican
congressmen were in cahoots with Trump in this attempted coup d’état? >>>>
Make no mistake: this was an attempted coup.
Trump knew it. Just weeks earlier, then attorney general William Barr
said
the justice department had found no evidence of widespread fraud that
could have overturned the results.
And a few days after Trump’s call to Rosen – on 2 January – Trump told
Brad Raffensperger, Georgia’s secretary of state, to “find” votes to >>>> change the election outcome. He berated Raffensperger for not doing
more
to overturn the election.
Emails released last month also show that Trump and his allies in the
last
weeks of his presidency pressured the justice department to
investigate
totally unsubstantiated claims of widespread election fraud –
forwarding
them conspiracy theories and even a draft legal brief they hoped would >>>> be
filed with the supreme court.
Some people, especially Republican officeholders, believe we should
simply
forget these sordid details. We must not.
For the first time in the history of the United States we did not
have a
peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history,
a
president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to
claim,
with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For >>>> the
first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his >>>> own
pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president >>>> and
then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was
swept
into the dustbin of history.
We might then merely regret this temporary lapse in American
presidential
history. At best, Trump would be seen as a fool and the whole affair
an
embarrassment to the country.
But Trump was no accident and he’s not in any dustbin. He has turned >>>> one
of America’s two major parties into his own cult. He has cast the
major
political division in the US as a clash between those who believe him
about the 2020 election and those who do not. He has emboldened state
Republicans to execute the most brazen attack on voting rights since
Jim
Crow. Most Republican senators and representatives dare not cross him. >>>> Some of his followers continue to threaten violence against the
government. By all accounts, he is running for president again in
2024.
Donald Trump’s proto-fascism poses the largest internal threat to
American
democracy since the civil war.
What to do about it? Fight it, and the sooner the better.
This final revelation – Trump’s 27 December call to the acting
attorney
general in which he pleads “Just say the election was corrupt + leave >>>> the
rest to me” – should trigger section 3 of the 14th amendment, which >>>> bars
anyone from holding office who “engaged in insurrection” against the >>>> US.
The current attorney general of the United States, Merrick Garland,
should
issue an advisory opinion clearly stating this. If Trump wants to take >>>> it
to the supreme court, fine.
### - quote from above:
"For the first time in the history of the United States we did not
have
a
peaceful transition of power. For the first time in American history,
a
president refused – still refuses – to concede, and continues to
claim,
with no basis in fact, that the election was “stolen” from him. For >>>> the
first time in history, a president actively plotted a coup.
It would have been bad enough were Trump a mere crackpot acting on his >>>> own
pathetic stage – a would-be dictator who accidentally became president >>>> and
then, when he lost re-election, went bonkers – after which he was
swept
into the dustbin of history."
haha this 'very clearly' saying it all then, no?
the 'dustbin of history' clearly being where he belongs along with all >>>> other wannabe dictators & tyrants to-boot...
thus humanity is clearly at a crucial turning point in its history,
the
road we go down 'now' determining our ultimate fate.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
--Robert Frost
HoHum... give it a rest Brian, Trump is gone for good and will never
be back. Old, stupid and most likely extremely unhealthy. The Don is
Done.
Perhaps he can get a part time job as a clown in one of the few
remaining circuses....
### - oh he's not finished with his tricks yet hah! he's had a taste of
big-power and likes it too much to ever go back to just being some
chatshow celebrity now heh, not a chance...
not with 74 million loony supporters still behind him he wont!
(the best we can hope is he croaks it? or he's gonna be there
stirring-it
for years!)
Wishing death now? That's a bit nasty mate. Not very Christian of
you, or buddhist or whatever...
In any case, Trump's goose is cooked. He had a chance and blew it.
COVID Delta will finish him, as those anti-vaxxers and other flat
earthers who back the loony cunt die off or their family members die
off and even they wake up to the fact that they have been scammed, big
time.
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