• Re: "White death will mean liberation for all"

    From Siri Cruise@1:229/2 to All on Friday, December 01, 2017 17:18:25
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    From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com

    In article <7nm32d1356ipuqvsj1sorc1jv0rl0dcb5k@4ax.com>, hebephilia@disney.com wrote:

    You could say white people are the slaves. Some of them are aware of
    it. Others, primarily white apologist leftist idiots, are totally in
    denial and it's racist to suggest othewise.

    Or you can lower your blood pressure by not giving a fuck every time some college kid shoots off his mouth.

    Why, yes, people are allowed to say things you don't want to hear. When they're as powerless as college student on a college newspaper, you really, please believe me, you really have nothing to fear from them. You have more to fear from an idiot on a cellphone driving a car.

    Approach this as an exercise in developping a rational argument.

    While insisting that he cannot by definition be racist, Martinez declares

    The rational response is clarify what words mean.

    that “white death will mean liberation for all.” Martinez is a racist and

    The rational response is to find objective evidence for and against the proposition. Like are there many white people in southern Sudan? Are there many black people in Northern Ireland?

    the column is deeply disturbing. However, as will come as no surprise to

    Actually I find his lack of intellectual rigour, as reported, to be hilarious.

    regulars on the blog, I still support his right to publish such views. My >concern is that universities continue to be selective in affording free >speech rights to students. It is doubtful that the university would be so >circumspect if the the column called for the death of minorities.

    That's actually an important point. The concept of the marketplace of ideas works by letting any idea be proposed and discussed. In theory crap ideas are recognised as crap and rejected by the people for good reasons. Stifling crap ideas can unfortunately make them appear tasty and tempting.

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  • From Siri Cruise@1:229/2 to Byker on Friday, December 01, 2017 16:54:04
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    From: chine.bleu@yahoo.com

    In article <iMadnWHHQe2DJbzHnZ2dnUU7-K_NnZ2d@supernews.com>,
    "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    “Your DNA is An Abomination”: Texas State University Embroiled In Controversy Over Racist Column Calling For “White Death”

    Welcome to marketplace of ideas.

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  • From Byker@1:229/2 to All on Friday, December 01, 2017 14:14:22
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    From: byker@do~rag.net

    La Raza speaks: Rudy Martinez can talk about DNA because we discovered it. During Europe's Renaissance and Reformation, Mexicans were still eating
    human hearts. A good picture of Martinez, who looks like a left-wing
    apologist, is in this segment: https://tinyurl.com/ycfjylgj

    Hearing of "White privilege" over and over and over again gripes the piss
    out of me. White privilege is a hypocritical spin on non-White failure.
    Every single example of this "White privilege" is in reality failure of non-Whites, made out to be Whitey's fault. I suggest we reject the phrase,
    and call it what it really is: non-White (usually black) FAILURE... ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- “Your DNA is An Abomination”: Texas State University Embroiled In Controversy Over Racist Column Calling For “White Death”

    Jonathan Turley
    November 30, 2017

    Texas State University is this week’s ground zero in our campus speech debate. The most recent controversy was triggered by an opinion column by student Rudy Martinez on November 28th in The University Star titled “Your DNA is an abomination.”: https://tinyurl.com/y8ab649n

    While insisting that he cannot by definition be racist, Martinez declares
    that “white death will mean liberation for all.” Martinez is a racist and the column is deeply disturbing. However, as will come as no surprise to regulars on the blog, I still support his right to publish such views. My concern is that universities continue to be selective in affording free
    speech rights to students. It is doubtful that the university would be so circumspect if the the column called for the death of minorities.

    Martinez told The College Fix that “[t]hough my language, especially when I claim to have only ever met ‘12 decent white people,’ could be deemed as hyperbolic (just barely), it has accomplished its goal: starting a
    conversation and outing racists.” He continues with a position used by racists on campus across America: that they cannot be racist because only
    white people can be racists:

    “… Was the piece racist? Nope; racist attitudes come from a position of power. The only group who have ever held true power in this nation are those who call themselves ‘white.’” https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39459/

    It is a transparently convenient and entirely unsupportable claim made by non-white racists to excuse their open racism. Racism is not about power;
    it is about prejudice. Martinez has clearly met more than a dozen “decent white people” but he could not see that decency past his own prejudice. It is the same reason why he thinks that it is ok to denounce an entire race as having flawed DNA and better off dead.

    Martinez’ column no doubt was thrilling to read for those who relish racist rhetoric:

    “Ontologically speaking, white death will mean liberation for all … accept this death as the first step toward defining yourself as something other
    than the oppressor,” Martinez wrote in his column. “Until then, remember this: I hate you because you shouldn’t exist. You are both the dominant apparatus on the planet and the void in which all other cultures, upon
    meeting you, die.”

    Martinez says that she is satisfied that she has forced people to think
    about race. That she has but not in a way that faculty and students would
    have hoped. There are real and pressing issues of racial discrimination
    that need to be addressed and discussed. People like Martinez offer racism
    to combat racism and keep that dialogue from occurring.

    Martinez, a self-described Marxist, has previously shown the same lack of judgment in his view of the ideal government in calling for a
    Marxist/Leninist government that ruined the Russian and imposed
    authoritarian rule over much of Eastern Europe. A Bolshevik Revolution, according to Martinez, is “the only way to achieve a lasting peace and
    avoid oppression.”: https://tinyurl.com/y9qjupbf

    In the end, Martinez is just another racist on campus. The concern is not
    the impact of such low-grade writing but the response to it. Universities continue to treat speech differently in declaring some writings like Martinez’ to be obnoxious while declaring other writings to be hate speech. The result is a de facto system of censorship that deals more harshly with views on one end of the spectrum of speech. As I have previously said, I continue to believe that the solution for bad speech is more speech — not speech regulation. Martinez’ racist views will fail because they are low-grade and hateful. The same can be said for those expressing prejudice against minorities. They all belong in the ashcan of history. However, they will only be defeated when free speech prevails for everyone regardless of viewpoint.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2017/11/30/your-dna-is-an-abomination





    Dumbass groids. They're not thinking this one through. Let's suppose for a minute very hypothetically that the White people are all gone. Who is going
    to feed your skanky asses? Your housing turn over is in many cases less than
    10 years before it is utterly destroyed and billions are spent on renewal
    and replacement by -- you guessed it -- working White people. Those shopping centers that you loot and pillage, your high-priced sneakers, TV's, fried chicken, weaves, and fingernails? Again all made by WHITE people.

    Face it spooks, without White folks, you self-destruct and have nothing.
    Just give them 250,000 years and they might catch up with the rest of us...

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  • From hebephilia@disney.com@1:229/2 to Byker on Friday, December 01, 2017 14:48:52
    XPost: alt.california, sac.politics, oc.general
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    On Fri, 1 Dec 2017 14:14:22 -0600, "Byker" <byker@do~rag.net> wrote:

    La Raza speaks: Rudy Martinez can talk about DNA because we discovered it. >During Europe's Renaissance and Reformation, Mexicans were still eating
    human hearts. A good picture of Martinez, who looks like a left-wing >apologist, is in this segment: https://tinyurl.com/ycfjylgj

    Hearing of "White privilege" over and over and over again gripes the piss
    out of me. White privilege is a hypocritical spin on non-White failure.
    Every single example of this "White privilege" is in reality failure of >non-Whites, made out to be Whitey's fault. I suggest we reject the phrase, >and call it what it really is: non-White (usually black) FAILURE... >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >“Your DNA is An Abomination”: Texas State University Embroiled In
    Controversy Over Racist Column Calling For “White Death”

    Jonathan Turley
    November 30, 2017

    Texas State University is this week’s ground zero in our campus speech >debate. The most recent controversy was triggered by an opinion column by >student Rudy Martinez on November 28th in The University Star titled “Your >DNA is an abomination.”: https://tinyurl.com/y8ab649n

    While insisting that he cannot by definition be racist, Martinez declares >that “white death will mean liberation for all.” Martinez is a racist and
    the column is deeply disturbing. However, as will come as no surprise to >regulars on the blog, I still support his right to publish such views. My >concern is that universities continue to be selective in affording free >speech rights to students. It is doubtful that the university would be so >circumspect if the the column called for the death of minorities.

    Martinez told The College Fix that “[t]hough my language, especially when I >claim to have only ever met ‘12 decent white people,’ could be deemed as >hyperbolic (just barely), it has accomplished its goal: starting a >conversation and outing racists.” He continues with a position used by >racists on campus across America: that they cannot be racist because only >white people can be racists:

    “… Was the piece racist? Nope; racist attitudes come from a position of >power. The only group who have ever held true power in this nation are those >who call themselves ‘white.’” https://www.thecollegefix.com/post/39459/

    It is a transparently convenient and entirely unsupportable claim made by >non-white racists to excuse their open racism. Racism is not about power;
    it is about prejudice. Martinez has clearly met more than a dozen “decent >white people” but he could not see that decency past his own prejudice. It >is the same reason why he thinks that it is ok to denounce an entire race as >having flawed DNA and better off dead.

    Martinez’ column no doubt was thrilling to read for those who relish racist >rhetoric:

    “Ontologically speaking, white death will mean liberation for all … accept >this death as the first step toward defining yourself as something other
    than the oppressor,” Martinez wrote in his column. “Until then, remember >this: I hate you because you shouldn’t exist. You are both the dominant >apparatus on the planet and the void in which all other cultures, upon >meeting you, die.”

    Martinez says that she is satisfied that she has forced people to think
    about race. That she has but not in a way that faculty and students would >have hoped. There are real and pressing issues of racial discrimination
    that need to be addressed and discussed. People like Martinez offer racism >to combat racism and keep that dialogue from occurring.

    Martinez, a self-described Marxist, has previously shown the same lack of >judgment in his view of the ideal government in calling for a >Marxist/Leninist government that ruined the Russian and imposed
    authoritarian rule over much of Eastern Europe. A Bolshevik Revolution, >according to Martinez, is “the only way to achieve a lasting peace and
    avoid oppression.”: https://tinyurl.com/y9qjupbf

    In the end, Martinez is just another racist on campus. The concern is not >the impact of such low-grade writing but the response to it. Universities >continue to treat speech differently in declaring some writings like >Martinez’ to be obnoxious while declaring other writings to be hate speech. >The result is a de facto system of censorship that deals more harshly with >views on one end of the spectrum of speech. As I have previously said, I >continue to believe that the solution for bad speech is more speech — not >speech regulation. Martinez’ racist views will fail because they are >low-grade and hateful. The same can be said for those expressing prejudice >against minorities. They all belong in the ashcan of history. However, they >will only be defeated when free speech prevails for everyone regardless of >viewpoint.

    https://jonathanturley.org/2017/11/30/your-dna-is-an-abomination





    Dumbass groids. They're not thinking this one through. Let's suppose for a >minute very hypothetically that the White people are all gone. Who is going >to feed your skanky asses? Your housing turn over is in many cases less than >10 years before it is utterly destroyed and billions are spent on renewal
    and replacement by -- you guessed it -- working White people. Those shopping >centers that you loot and pillage, your high-priced sneakers, TV's, fried >chicken, weaves, and fingernails? Again all made by WHITE people.

    Face it spooks, without White folks, you self-destruct and have nothing.
    Just give them 250,000 years and they might catch up with the rest of us...

    You could say white people are the slaves. Some of them are aware of
    it. Others, primarily white apologist leftist idiots, are totally in
    denial and it's racist to suggest othewise.

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  • From Byker@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, December 02, 2017 11:59:25
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    From: byker@do~rag.net

    "Siri Cruise" wrote in message news:chine.bleu-8EB367.17175501122017@reader.eternal-september.org...

    Like are there many white people in southern Sudan?

    Arabs (I guess you could call them White) account for 70%, others being Arabized ethnic Africans. Skin whitening is common among their Africoonians, like most everywhere else blacks have to co-exist with lighter-skinned
    races.

    Are there many black people in Northern Ireland?

    3,616 (2011) That's 0.2 % of the population...

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