• Re: Questions about Synchronet BBS software -new topic- Static IP

    From mrbrad@1:229/2 to Charles P. Adkins on Sunday, February 02, 2020 11:51:57
    From: lostgonzo@gmail.com

    On 2/1/2020 11:59 AM, Charles P. Adkins wrote:
    I have some questions about this BBS software. I've been toying with the idea of a Telnet BBS.

    Som here we go!

    1. Does this BBS software have it's own "frontdoor" for echos like Fidonet?

    2. Does this BBS software have it's own mail tosser?

    3. Is there anyone out there would like to talk me through, on the phone, setting one up, Step by Step?

    FWIW, I used to be a BBS owner in the 1990's. I ran TAG, frontdoor, Gecho
    under
    DOS. Needless to say, things have changed!

    Thanks,

    -Chuck Adkins K8CPA
    Lincoln Park, Mi
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    I've got a question. I have a static IP line. Would it be best to just
    set this up with ONLY the static IP line and synchronet and just use a
    2nd Inet (not static) for my personal use. In other words, risk of stuff
    going wrong on the sbbs end and not use personal inet time on the
    supposed dedicated static IP for synchronet.

    It is not a big deal either way I can get a non-static biz line in the
    house for $44 bucks a month same speed. (Thus is the nature of static IP
    lines) or at least that amount for 1 year where as i think it would pop
    up to $69 a month should I go that route for my personal inet use.

    I guess a 'side question' is could I setup the static IP line with 2
    routers and accomplish the same thing above?

    (been years....sorry) :)

    thanks

    Brad
    former sysop lost gonzo bbs

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to mrbrad on Monday, February 03, 2020 09:57:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-17e-this

    To: mrbrad
    On 02-02-20 11:51, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-

    I've got a question. I have a static IP line. Would it be best to just
    set this up with ONLY the static IP line and synchronet and just use a
    2nd Inet (not static) for my personal use. In other words, risk of
    stuff going wrong on the sbbs end and not use personal inet time on the supposed dedicated static IP for synchronet.

    I'm not following your reasoning. $44/month extra just to run a BBS seems excessive. My overhead for my IPv4 tunnel is less than that for a _year_ and I get 14 useable static IPs.

    A BBS uses so little data it's not worth separating it out. If you did want to run the BBS separately, a cheaper route would be to host it on a VPS externally ($10/month or less is possible with some shopping around).

    But for most people, simply setting the BBS up on a static internal IP and then port forwarding the relevant ports (telnet, SSB, binkp, etc) is the best way.

    I guess a 'side question' is could I setup the static IP line with 2 routers and accomplish the same thing above?

    That would depend on your ISP. It sometimes is possible.


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  • From mrbrad@1:229/2 to tony.langdon@3633/410.remove-17e-th on Sunday, February 02, 2020 20:44:16
    From: lostgonzo@gmail.com

    On 2/2/2020 4:57 PM, tony.langdon@3633/410.remove-17e-this wrote:
    To: mrbrad
    On 02-02-20 11:51, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-

    mr> I've got a question. I have a static IP line. Would it be best to just
    mr> set this up with ONLY the static IP line and synchronet and just use a
    mr> 2nd Inet (not static) for my personal use. In other words, risk of
    mr> stuff going wrong on the sbbs end and not use personal inet time on the
    mr> supposed dedicated static IP for synchronet.

    I'm not following your reasoning. $44/month extra just to run a BBS seems excessive. My overhead for my IPv4 tunnel is less than that for a _year_ and
    I
    get 14 useable static IPs.

    A BBS uses so little data it's not worth separating it out. If you did want
    to
    run the BBS separately, a cheaper route would be to host it on a VPS
    externally
    ($10/month or less is possible with some shopping around).

    But for most people, simply setting the BBS up on a static internal IP and
    then
    port forwarding the relevant ports (telnet, SSB, binkp, etc) is the best way.

    mr> I guess a 'side question' is could I setup the static IP line with 2
    mr> routers and accomplish the same thing above?

    That would depend on your ISP. It sometimes is possible.


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    Sorry. Static IP with Spetrum in my area is $125 even a month.

    Also I plan to run 'unsupported' bbs pkg (worldgroup and major bbs)
    maybe if i had the synchronet as a front end in that it has no major
    security problems I could pull that off. In that sbbs was updated 1/1/19.

    Static IP per say is mainly for the WG/MBBS/vitcom TCP/IP (static IP) ad
    other stuff like majormud and telearena etc.....a snarl of old wg bbs stuff.

    So yeah, it is spendy out here. Also have a Bitcoin Biz thus the static

    IP I can write the works off..ths static/ip biz line if I went this route.

    I called spectrum they said they would be happy to do the separate
    router for the same fee as just picking up the other personal use $44
    buck variable IP personal inet line....so no redress there. Dubious
    security anyway. Or I could buy another router and split and like you
    said no real security improvement

    fun/fun. Anyway, no real time lately but I keep thinking about getting

    the lost gonzo bbs/nostaligia bbs back up but a lot of work for one guy.

    I'll just muddle through I guess, thanks for the help.

    Brad

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  • From Paul Quinn@1:229/2 to you on Monday, February 03, 2020 12:47:45
    From: paul.quinn@3:640/1384.remove-xhe-this

    To: Tony Langdon
    Hi! Tony,

    On 03 Feb 20 09:57, you wrote to mrbrad:

    A BBS uses so little data it's not worth separating it out.

    That's what I thought, till it came time to upgrade the OS. So, I converted the Fidonet operation to a VirtualBox, to transfer it to my other server PC. (Docker things would work as well but that technology is foreign to me.)

    Ooh. My Fidonet is back on this PC. My other node is on the other PC. Can't tell, can you. ;)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to mrbrad on Monday, February 03, 2020 16:52:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-3fw-this

    To: mrbrad
    On 02-02-20 20:44, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-

    Sorry. Static IP with Spetrum in my area is $125 even a month.

    Ouch, for me it only costs an extra $10/month for a single static IPv4 and a static /56 IPv6 prefix.

    Also I plan to run 'unsupported' bbs pkg (worldgroup and major bbs)
    maybe if i had the synchronet as a front end in that it has no major security problems I could pull that off. In that sbbs was updated
    1/1/19.

    "unsupported" by whom? In this context, I don't know what you mean.

    Static IP per say is mainly for the WG/MBBS/vitcom TCP/IP (static IP)
    ad other stuff like majormud and telearena etc.....a snarl of old wg
    bbs stuff.

    OK, well static IP makes inbound connections easier.

    So yeah, it is spendy out here. Also have a Bitcoin Biz thus the static

    IP I can write the works off..ths static/ip biz line if I went this
    route.

    Yep. :)

    I called spectrum they said they would be happy to do the separate
    router for the same fee as just picking up the other personal use $44
    buck variable IP personal inet line....so no redress there. Dubious security anyway. Or I could buy another router and split and like you
    said no real security improvement

    fun/fun. Anyway, no real time lately but I keep thinking about getting

    the lost gonzo bbs/nostaligia bbs back up but a lot of work for one
    guy.

    I'll just muddle through I guess, thanks for the help.

    OK, I'm still a little confused about the end goal. It's still not really making sense, and it seems like you're doing this the long way around for reasons I don't understand.



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  • From Vk3jed@1:229/2 to Paul Quinn on Monday, February 03, 2020 16:35:00
    From: vk3jed@FREEWAY.remove-3fw-this

    To: Paul Quinn
    On 02-03-20 12:47, Paul Quinn wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    @VIA: VERT
    Hi! Tony,

    On 03 Feb 20 09:57, you wrote to mrbrad:

    A BBS uses so little data it's not worth separating it out.

    That's what I thought, till it came time to upgrade the OS. So, I converted the Fidonet operation to a VirtualBox, to transfer it to my other server PC. (Docker things would work as well but that technology
    is foreign to me.)

    Well, that depends on your quota. :) I'm on unlimited, so I don't give a rat's. :D

    Ooh. My Fidonet is back on this PC. My other node is on the other PC.
    Can't tell, can you. ;)

    Don't know, don't care. :D

    Which is as it should be. Those details should only matter to you. FOr the rest of the world, it doesn't matter, as long as it works. :)


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  • From Paul Quinn@1:229/2 to you on Monday, February 03, 2020 17:34:40
    From: paul.quinn@3:640/1384.125.remove-7r-this

    To: Vk3jed
    Hi! Tony,

    On 02/03/2020 03:35 PM, you wrote:

    Well, that depends on your quota. :) I'm on unlimited, so I don't give a rat's. :D

    Mmm... what's a quota?

    Can't tell, can you. ;)

    Don't know, don't care. :D

    Just funnin'. 8-)

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Alter Ego@1:229/2 to All on Monday, February 03, 2020 18:27:31
    From: alter.ego@ALTERANT.remove-7r-this

    To: Paul Quinn
    Re: Questions about Synchronet BBS software -new topic- Static IP
    By: Paul Quinn to Tony Langdon on Mon Feb 03 2020 12:47 pm

    other server PC. (Docker things would work as well but that technology is foreign to me.)

    If you want help with docker - I can help you there.

    I run SBBS in docker, and used to run MBSE and Mystic in docker - but no DOS doors though (I didnt get that far - is doable though)...
    ...deon


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  • From Paul Quinn@1:229/2 to you on Monday, February 03, 2020 18:08:47
    From: paul.quinn@3:640/1384.125.remove-etr-this

    To: Alter Ego
    Hi! Deon,

    On 02/03/2020 05:27 PM, you wrote:

    If you want help with docker - I can help you there.

    Thanks but no thanks. I've invested a lot in VirtualBox. I've seen a EwwToob video providing a why/how-to on Docker, which gave me a good idea of what it's all about.

    I run SBBS in docker, and used to run MBSE and Mystic in docker - but no DOS doors though (I didnt get that far - is doable though)...

    Yes. I have a fair understanding of its potential. Mmm... doors. I saw one on my Mystic about three weeks ago; the first for a long-long time.

    Thank you.

    Cheers,
    Paul.

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to Paul Quinn on Monday, February 03, 2020 19:04:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-etr-this

    To: Paul Quinn
    On 02-03-20 17:34, Paul Quinn wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Hi! Tony,

    On 02/03/2020 03:35 PM, you wrote:

    Well, that depends on your quota. :) I'm on unlimited, so I don't give a rat's. :D

    Mmm... what's a quota?

    Exactly. ;)

    Can't tell, can you. ;)

    Don't know, don't care. :D

    Just funnin'. 8-)

    Me too. :D


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  • From mrbrad@1:229/2 to tony.langdon@3633/410.remove-3fw-th on Monday, February 03, 2020 11:27:24
    From: lostgonzo@gmail.com

    On 2/2/2020 11:52 PM, tony.langdon@3633/410.remove-3fw-this wrote:
    To: mrbrad
    On 02-02-20 20:44, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-

    mr> Sorry. Static IP with Spetrum in my area is $125 even a month.

    Ouch, for me it only costs an extra $10/month for a single static IPv4 and a static /56 IPv6 prefix.

    mr> Also I plan to run 'unsupported' bbs pkg (worldgroup and major bbs)
    mr> maybe if i had the synchronet as a front end in that it has no major
    mr> security problems I could pull that off. In that sbbs was updated
    mr> 1/1/19.

    "unsupported" by whom? In this context, I don't know what you mean.

    mr> Static IP per say is mainly for the WG/MBBS/vitcom TCP/IP (static IP)
    mr> ad other stuff like majormud and telearena etc.....a snarl of old wg
    mr> bbs stuff.

    OK, well static IP makes inbound connections easier.

    mr> So yeah, it is spendy out here. Also have a Bitcoin Biz thus the static

    mr> IP I can write the works off..ths static/ip biz line if I went this
    mr> route.

    Yep. :)

    mr> I called spectrum they said they would be happy to do the separate
    mr> router for the same fee as just picking up the other personal use $44
    mr> buck variable IP personal inet line....so no redress there. Dubious
    mr> security anyway. Or I could buy another router and split and like you
    mr> said no real security improvement

    mr> fun/fun. Anyway, no real time lately but I keep thinking about getting

    mr> the lost gonzo bbs/nostaligia bbs back up but a lot of work for one
    mr> guy.

    mr> I'll just muddle through I guess, thanks for the help.

    OK, I'm still a little confused about the end goal. It's still not really making sense, and it seems like you're doing this the long way around for reasons I don't understand.



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    Major WG BBS uses vircom tcp/ip which requires (at least with a large a
    system I plan on putting up...even if boxes only in test mode till VM)
    again, really requires a static ip...or at least last I .looked the
    variable IP router cable hoops I'd jump through to get this to work is daunting.

    Also I'm in a University town, the biz line static IP never goes down.

    When I had regular cable with the rotating IP's etc it crashed like 4-8
    times a month. That was unacceptable in that I was running Bitcoin
    miners 24/7 in basement. Thus the static IP. Charter is only Inet in
    town with any real reliability...thus their upkeep sucks being a
    university town and all, IMHO.

    my question is with an unsupported BBS package on the internet even if I
    use synchronet as the front end to such ...would I be better off just
    letting the bbs live/die on its own networks (static ip) and just pick
    up the same speed home network (variable ip) at the same speed for $44
    bucks to be safe. I would not give a damn if such was hacked.

    I want to do synchronet as the front end, but that may be ugly as sin to
    do initially, but that is the wise move in that the synrhonet package
    had its last support date just updated with windows 10 on 1/1/19.
    Unlike my other mbbs/wg packages.

    Anyway, thus the concerns. I don't much care if the for example if the
    static IP gets hacked via this BBS menagerie in some manner. But have
    personal and other use I could for just the heck of it spring the $44
    bucks and just run on the cheap variable IP $44 option to be safe on the
    side :) Thus the only security issues would be on the BBS's own static
    IP line.

    Hopefully this clears some stuff up. Also I looked at a port forwarding
    and security router thingy?

    Was way over my head. Thus above option. Of course I also know,
    eventually, a lot of the above machines from back in the day can be
    compressed into VM...but first I have to get the large beast back up
    and stable from backups.

    Anyway thanks again for the help

    Brad

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to mrbrad on Tuesday, February 04, 2020 13:34:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-fzq-this

    To: mrbrad
    On 02-03-20 11:27, mrbrad wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-

    Major WG BBS uses vircom tcp/ip which requires (at least with a large a system I plan on putting up...even if boxes only in test mode till VM) again, really requires a static ip...or at least last I .looked the variable IP router cable hoops I'd jump through to get this to work is daunting.

    Static IP is much easier, that part is straightforward and logical.

    Also I'm in a University town, the biz line static IP never goes down.

    :)

    When I had regular cable with the rotating IP's etc it crashed like 4-8 times a month. That was unacceptable in that I was running Bitcoin
    miners 24/7 in basement. Thus the static IP. Charter is only Inet in
    town with any real reliability...thus their upkeep sucks being a university town and all, IMHO.

    By "crashed" in this context, I'm guessing your Internet was unstable with the dynamic IP. Your expression wasn't really clear, because "crashed" normally refers to a system, not a conmms link (the latter normally "go down").

    my question is with an unsupported BBS package on the internet even if
    I use synchronet as the front end to such ...would I be better off just letting the bbs live/die on its own networks (static ip) and just pick
    up the same speed home network (variable ip) at the same speed for $44 bucks to be safe. I would not give a damn if such was hacked.

    That's your call. One thing in your favour is that BBSs are less well known, so someone actually has to go out and directly attack the system, rather than just letting a bot do the job. Also, there may be other ways of mitigating the danger. A second Internet connection is an expensive way around. However, one thing I would do is put the BBS on a dedicated machine, so you can't bring down the Bitcoin mining or other important things. :)

    I want to do synchronet as the front end, but that may be ugly as sin
    to do initially, but that is the wise move in that the synrhonet
    package had its last support date just updated with windows 10 on
    1/1/19. Unlike my other mbbs/wg packages.

    That may help a little, depending on the attacks used. But some may still go straight through.

    Anyway, thus the concerns. I don't much care if the for example if the static IP gets hacked via this BBS menagerie in some manner. But have personal and other use I could for just the heck of it spring the $44 bucks and just run on the cheap variable IP $44 option to be safe on
    the side :) Thus the only security issues would be on the BBS's own
    static IP line.

    I'm not sure how much of a threat it would be these days

    Hopefully this clears some stuff up. Also I looked at a port forwarding and security router thingy?

    Well, you would need port forwarding, and a firewall with IDS might be helpful.

    Was way over my head. Thus above option. Of course I also know, eventually, a lot of the above machines from back in the day can be compressed into VM...but first I have to get the large beast back up
    and stable from backups.

    You could also put a lot into the cloud! :)


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  • From Tracker1@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, February 05, 2020 04:13:14
    From: tracker1@TRN.remove-ace-this

    To: mrbrad
    Re: Re: Questions about Synchronet BBS software -new topic- Static IP
    By: mrbrad to alt.bbs.synchronet on Mon Feb 03 2020 11:27:24

    my question is with an unsupported BBS package on the internet even if I
    use synchronet as the front end to such ...would I be better off just
    letting the bbs live/die on its own networks (static ip) and just pick
    up the same speed home network (variable ip) at the same speed for $44
    bucks to be safe. I would not give a damn if such was hacked.

    I'm not sure what your intentions are... if you are just running Synchronet, I can say I'm using a mid-level (for a BBS) VPS on Digital Ocean ($20/month size). I first moved the SSH port to another port, and enabled that port in ufw before restarting
    sshd... from there, I've been using VS Code + Remote SSH extension to edit files after installing /sbbs/ ... since then, I setup other service (not telnet/ssh for now, and have https behind another domain name so I can access/test).

    In any case, a linux host of even modest level can handle dozens of BBS users without issue. If you're stuck on majorbbs/wg, then you will afaik need a windows system to run it, and may still be better off with a windows VPS service, they can get pricey.
    . Azure pricing is meh, but about your best bet... would stay away from anything with less than 8gb ram if you're doing a windows vps though. You'd be
    able to remote desktop in, and run whatever you want, it will also have a static IP. Most VPS
    services also offer firewall filtering at their network layer, so you can restrict to only the ports you want open, and limit RDP to your home's IP address (and update via web as needed).

    In short... I'd put it on a rented server in a datacenter, probably virtual to keep pricing down to reasonable.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    +o roughneckbbs.com
    bbs@tracker1.dev

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  • From mrbrad@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, February 05, 2020 13:18:52
    From: lostgonzo@gmail.com

    On 2/4/2020 10:13 PM, Tracker1 wrote:
    To: mrbrad
    Re: Re: Questions about Synchronet BBS software -new topic- Static IP
    By: mrbrad to alt.bbs.synchronet on Mon Feb 03 2020 11:27:24

    my question is with an unsupported BBS package on the internet even if I
    use synchronet as the front end to such ...would I be better off just
    letting the bbs live/die on its own networks (static ip) and just pick
    up the same speed home network (variable ip) at the same speed for $44
    bucks to be safe. I would not give a damn if such was hacked.

    I'm not sure what your intentions are... if you are just running Synchronet,
    I can say I'm using a mid-level (for a BBS) VPS on Digital Ocean ($20/month size). I first moved the SSH port to another port, and enabled that port in ufw before restarting
    sshd... from there, I've been using VS Code + Remote SSH extension to edit files after installing /sbbs/ ... since then, I setup other service (not telnet/ssh for now, and have https behind another domain name so I can access/test).

    In any case, a linux host of even modest level can handle dozens of BBS users
    without issue. If you're stuck on majorbbs/wg, then you will afaik need a windows system to run it, and may still be better off with a windows VPS service, they can get
    pricey.. Azure pricing is meh, but about your best bet... would stay away from anything with less than 8gb ram if you're doing a windows vps though. You'd be
    able to remote desktop in, and run whatever you want, it will also have a static IP. Most VPS
    services also offer firewall filtering at their network layer, so you can restrict to only the ports you want open, and limit RDP to your home's IP address (and update via web as needed).

    In short... I'd put it on a rented server in a datacenter, probably virtual
    to keep pricing down to reasonable.

    --
    Michael J. Ryan
    +o roughneckbbs.com
    bbs@tracker1.dev

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    I have to get the beast up probably on the original 5 cpu towers first
    and see if everything works like back in the day first. Then perhaps I
    can do VM.

    As to why the static IP wg/mbbs has issues with security being way back
    in the day...thus IF i hide it under Synchronet with sub-menus to the
    mbbs/wg bbs old lostgonzo/nostalgia bbs I need a static IP. Again,
    perhaps I could get around this with VM eventually...but first have to
    get the beast back up and stable from back in the day.

    An of course it is a massive job. But anyway, Synchronet as front end
    in that it used to be under wg/mbbs I need to reverse because at least Synchronet works with Windows 10 vs unknown if wg/mbbs does such and
    Synchronet at least was updated to win 10 with i assume security fixes
    beyond the 1990's in 1/1/19.

    Perhaps after it is all up and such I can get off the static IP as it is
    now not looking like I can pull that off with the current trying to put
    the puzzle back together on this beast.

    first of course I have to find the time.... :(

    thanks for the help

    Brad

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, February 05, 2020 07:44:00
    From: daryl.stout@1:19/33.remove-r5k-this

    To: TONY LANGDON
    Tony,

    I remember setting up RA, BinkleyTerm and whatever tosser I was using at the TL>time. It took me a couple of weeks to be confident enough to setup Fidonet TL>apply for a node number. I remember it was a steep learning curve at the ti TL>but so rewarding, once I got it all going!

    Mine was GT Power, then Virtual Advanced, and Synchronet...with all
    the FIDONet utilities. You're right...it's a heck of a learning curve,
    but it's rewarding when everything gets working properly.

    Daryl


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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:30:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-pda-this

    To: Daryl Stout
    On 02-05-20 07:44, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    Mine was GT Power, then Virtual Advanced, and Synchronet...with all
    the FIDONet utilities. You're right...it's a heck of a learning curve,
    but it's rewarding when everything gets working properly.

    That's the real satisfaction in this hobby.


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  • From The Millionaire@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 14:32:13
    From: the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-7j6-this

    To: Daryl Stout

    Tony,

    Mine was GT Power, then Virtual Advanced, and Synchronet...with all
    the FIDONet utilities. You're right...it's a heck of a learning curve,
    but it's rewarding when everything gets working properly.

    Daryl

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    Virtual Advanced was pretty good but had to write a lot of batch files for it.

    $ The Millionaire $
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  • From Daryl Stout@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 21:03:00
    From: daryl.stout@1:19/33.remove-3k7-this

    To: TONY LANGDON
    Tony,

    Mine was GT Power, then Virtual Advanced, and Synchronet...with all the FIDONet utilities. You're right...it's a heck of a learning curve, but it's rewarding when everything gets working properly.

    That's the real satisfaction in this hobby.

    Plus, it's one of the few hobbies I can still do. I enjoy the
    bantering in the message areas.

    Daryl


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  • From Daryl Stout@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, February 12, 2020 21:04:00
    From: daryl.stout@1:19/33.remove-3k7-this

    To: THE MILLIONAIRE
    Virtual Advanced was pretty good but had to write a lot of batch files for i

    If their FIDONet tosser had worked better, I would've stayed with it.
    But, because it kept screwing things up, I had to switch to Synchronet.

    Daryl


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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to Daryl Stout on Thursday, February 13, 2020 20:04:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-ry0-this

    To: Daryl Stout
    On 02-12-20 21:03, Daryl Stout wrote to TONY LANGDON <=-

    That's the real satisfaction in this hobby.

    Plus, it's one of the few hobbies I can still do. I enjoy the
    bantering in the message areas.

    That's another thing I like about BBSing. :)


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