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    From The Millionaire@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 15:43:45
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    To: Digital Man
    I think the vote system was a bad idea. Just causes flame wars between Sysops and Users.

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  • From Digital Man@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 16:00:41
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 03:43 pm

    I think the vote system was a bad idea. Just causes flame wars between Sysops and Users.

    Care to elaborate on that?

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 16:33:59
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 03:43 pm

    I think the vote system was a bad idea. Just causes flame wars between Sysops and Users.

    I haven't heard about any sysops arguing with users about the voting. Where are you seeing this?

    Nightfox

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  • From The Millionaire@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 18:53:13
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    To: Digital Man

    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 03:43 pm

    Care to elaborate on that?

    digital man

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    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.

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  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 20:26:00
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 06:53 pm

    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.

    There was no arguing there between sysops and users, it was mainly other users noting that you often upvote your own messages, which is a bit tacky. That's not really what message voting is intended for.. Normally you'd upvote/downvote other messages.
    Upvoting your own messages is like patting yourself on the back.

    Nightfox

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  • From Gamgee@1:229/2 to The Millionaire on Thursday, January 30, 2020 20:42:00
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    To: The Millionaire
    The Millionaire wrote to Digital Man <=-

    I think the vote system was a bad idea. Just causes flame wars
    between Sysops and Users.

    Really? On what actual evidence do you base such a claim?


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  • From Digital Man@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 21:10:56
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 06:53 pm

    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.

    Where?

    digital man

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  • From Digital Man@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 21:12:08
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    To: Nightfox
    Re: Vote System
    By: Nightfox to All on Thu Jan 30 2020 08:28 pm

    Re: Vote System
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Jan 30 2020 08:26 pm

    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.

    There was no arguing there between sysops and users, it was mainly other users noting that you often upvote your own messages, which is a bit tacky. That's not really what message voting is intended for.. Normally you'd upvote/downvote other messages. Upvoting your own messages is like patting yourself on the back.

    Speaking of which, I've wondered if Synchronet should prevent users from upvoting their own messages. I've seen web forums that don't let you upvote your own messages.

    I supposed it could. But, it's only one vote really. <shrug>

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, January 30, 2020 20:28:26
    From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-uia-this

    Re: Vote System
    By: Nightfox to The Millionaire on Thu Jan 30 2020 08:26 pm

    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.

    There was no arguing there between sysops and users, it was mainly other users noting that you often upvote your own messages, which is a bit tacky. That's not really what message voting is intended for.. Normally you'd upvote/downvote other messages. Upvoting your own messages is like patting yourself on the back.

    Speaking of which, I've wondered if Synchronet should prevent users from upvoting their own messages. I've seen web forums that don't let you upvote your own messages.

    Nightfox

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  • From Rampage@1:229/2 to All on Friday, January 31, 2020 07:43:22
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 18:53:13


    I think the vote system was a bad idea. Just causes flame wars
    between Sysops and Users.

    Care to elaborate on that?

    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.

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  • From Rampage@1:229/2 to All on Friday, January 31, 2020 07:48:48
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    To: Nightfox
    Re: Vote System
    By: Nightfox to All on Thu Jan 30 2020 20:28:26


    I've wondered if Synchronet should prevent users from upvoting their
    own messages.

    +1

    I've seen web forums that don't let you upvote your own messages.

    yup...


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  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Friday, January 31, 2020 08:49:36
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    To: Digital Man
    Re: Vote System
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Thu Jan 30 2020 09:12 pm

    Speaking of which, I've wondered if Synchronet should prevent users
    from upvoting their own messages. I've seen web forums that don't let
    you upvote your own messages.

    I supposed it could. But, it's only one vote really. <shrug>

    Yeah, it's a fairly small detail.

    Nightfox

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  • From DaiTengu@1:229/2 to All on Friday, January 31, 2020 12:35:02
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 03:43 pm

    I think the vote system was a bad idea. Just causes flame wars between Sysops and Users.

    I've seen no evidence of that.

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  • From DaiTengu@1:229/2 to All on Friday, January 31, 2020 12:38:14
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 06:53 pm


    Care to elaborate on that?

    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.


    WAAAH! PEOPLE DOWNVOTE MY MESSAGES SO IT IS A BAD IDEA! WAAAH!


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  • From echicken@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, February 01, 2020 12:23:27
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 15:43:45

    I think the vote system was a bad idea. Just causes flame wars between
    Sysops
    and Users.

    Can you point to an example of one of these flame wars that the voting extensions have triggered?

    Perhaps this will be the first one.

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  • From echicken@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, February 01, 2020 12:26:04
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    To: The Millionaire
    Re: Vote System
    By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Jan 30 2020 18:53:13

    Well look at all the trouble it caused me using it, for example.

    What trouble is that?

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  • From Dumas Walker@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, February 01, 2020 18:39:00
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    To: ECHICKEN
    Can you point to an example of one of these flame wars that the voting extensio
    s have triggered?

    Perhaps this will be the first one.

    We can only hope! :)


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  • From Netsurge@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, February 05, 2020 11:39:40
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    To: Nightfox
    I haven't heard about any sysops arguing with users about the voting. Where are you seeing this?

    I'm going to vote on this issue right now using the voting system.

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