• DOS Doors? linux/dosemu

    From Dumas Walker@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, September 19, 2019 16:40:00
    From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-z39-this

    To: IMMORTAL
    I just use the built in fossil.com with no parameters. I never had to modify ything else that I can think of, it just worked "right out of the box".

    OK, there is something I missed "in the translation." I did not realize
    that fossil.com was built in. That helps!

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ "Tryin' is the first step towards failure." - Homer
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Dumas Walker@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, September 19, 2019 16:42:00
    From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-z39-this

    To: DIGITAL MAN
    - what door you're trying to run (e.g. native doors never use a FOSSIL)
    - what operating system your BBS is running on (i.e. the Windows versions of
    S
    chronet include a "built-in" FOSSIL/virtual-UART device driver)

    Any DOS door, so I am guessing not native.

    Debian.

    Again, it depends, but likely COM1, 38400 should work just fine.

    OK

    I am not a DOSemu user. Perhaps you should mention DOSemu in the subject of
    yo
    help request to attract the attention of DOSemu users/sysops. The
    information
    have on using Linux-DOSEMU with Synchronet is here: http://wiki.synchro.net/howto:dosemu

    I actually read that which is what brought me here with questions.

    If you have a specific problem, please post the complete details of the
    proble
    you're having and likely someone with the relevant experience can help.

    I have not had a problem yet. I am trying to get my ducks in a row so that
    I hopefully don't have too many issues. :) Thanks!

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. -J.Springfield
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Dumas Walker@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, September 19, 2019 16:46:00
    From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-z39-this

    To: NIGHTFOX
    That's not quite right.. You don't actually need to specify any FOSSIL
    driver
    n the command line for the door - Synchronet loads a FOSSIL driver
    automatical
    . And in most cases, you don't even need a batch file - In the door
    configurat
    n in SCFG, you can put in the door's .EXE file and command line directly.

    Is that with linux or windows? I may not have been specific enough.

    ---
    þ SLMR 2.1a þ "You've stolen my soul!" - Granpa Simpson
    þ Synchronet þ CAPCITY2 * capcity2.synchro.net * Telnet/SSH:2022/Rlogin/HTTP --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Al@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, September 19, 2019 16:23:12
    From: al@1:153/757.remove-6ru-this

    To: Dumas Walker
    Is that with linux or windows? I may not have been specific enough.

    I do it that way in linux. ForHonour is run with this command line..

    ./ForHonour -D %f -N %# -SOCKET %h

    The startup directory is set to ../xtrn/fhnr and I think all of apam's doors will work the same way.

    That's a native linux app though, dosemu stuff for DOS doors will be different.

    --- BBBS/Li6 v4.10 Toy-4
    * Origin: The Rusty MailBox - Penticton, BC Canada (1:153/757)
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, September 19, 2019 16:28:52
    From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-6ru-this

    To: Dumas Walker
    Re: DOS Doors? linux/dosemu
    By: Dumas Walker to NIGHTFOX on Thu Sep 19 2019 04:46 pm

    That's not quite right.. You don't actually need to specify any
    FOSSIL driver n the command line for the door - Synchronet loads a
    FOSSIL driver automatical . And in most cases, you don't even need a
    batch file - In the door configurat n in SCFG, you can put in the
    door's .EXE file and command line directly.

    Is that with linux or windows? I may not have been specific enough.

    Windows. If you specified Linux, I probably missed that, and I apologize. I'm
    not as familiar with setting up DOS doors with Synchronet in Linux.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From mark lewis@1:229/2 to you on Friday, September 20, 2019 20:59:30
    From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-8ey-this

    To: Nightfox

    On 2019 Sep 19 16:28:52, you wrote to Dumas Walker:

    That's not quite right.. You don't actually need to specify any
    FOSSIL driver n the command line for the door - Synchronet loads a
    FOSSIL driver automatical . And in most cases, you don't even need a
    batch file - In the door configurat n in SCFG, you can put in the
    door's .EXE file and command line directly.

    Is that with linux or windows? I may not have been specific enough.

    Windows. If you specified Linux, I probably missed that, and I
    apologize. I'm not as familiar with setting up DOS doors with
    Synchronet in Linux.

    DOSemu is only for linux, AFAIK... i don't think it even runs on *BSD... or at least not yet if there's been any work done on that front... i haven't seen anyone running *BSD mention it in the last six months or so...

    )\/(ark

    Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.
    ... Like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders.
    ---
    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Sunday, September 22, 2019 12:45:16
    From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-hl-this

    To: mark lewis
    Re: DOS Doors? linux/dosemu
    By: mark lewis to Nightfox on Fri Sep 20 2019 08:59 pm

    DOSemu is only for linux, AFAIK... i don't think it even runs on *BSD... or at least not yet if there's been any work done on that front... i haven't seen anyone running *BSD mention it in the last six months or so...

    I've seen DOSEmu or similar for Windows. Its main use is running old 16-bit DOS programs on 64-bit editions of Windows (which would normally be unable to run DOS software). I've seen old 16-bit DOS games from Steam packaged with DOSEmu (or some other
    DOS emulator) for Windows.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Rampage@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 23, 2019 09:33:55
    From: rampage@SESTAR.remove-mnr-this

    To: Nightfox
    Re: DOS Doors? linux/dosemu
    By: Nightfox to mark lewis on Sun Sep 22 2019 12:45:16

    DOSemu is only for linux, AFAIK... i don't think it even runs on
    *BSD... or at least not yet if there's been any work done on that front... i haven't seen anyone running *BSD mention it in the last six months or so...

    I've seen DOSEmu or similar for Windows.

    or similar is not the same thing ;)

    DOSemu:
    ----- snip -----
    It uses a combination of hardware-assisted virtualization features and high-level emulation. It can thus achieve nearly native speed for 8086-compatible DOS operating systems and applications on x86 compatible processors, and for DOS Protected Mode
    Interface (DPMI) applications on x86 compatible processors as well as on x86-64
    processors. DOSEMU includes an 8086 processor emulator for use with real-mode applications in x86-64 long mode.
    ----- snip -----

    i think the key is virtualization where most of the 80xx[x] CPU chips are emulated... but this also depends on what one is really trying to do... for example, i also run KVM/QEMU for my virtual machines (vs virtual environments) which can emulate S/390,
    PowerPC, ARM, x86, x86-64, Alpha, CRIS, LM32, M68k, MicroBlaze, MIPS, OpenRisc32, SH4, SPARC 32/64, Unicore32, and Xtensa hardware... i don't and haven't attempted to set up any virtual machines running games which the BBS can then talk to but i
    understand a few others have attempted such with some limited success... i imagine that it would be like running (eg) a physical C64 and using a (eg) serial connection into the C64 to access a game running there and displaying it
    via the serial
    connection on the BBS... kinda the reverse of the way that C64 are put on the internet these days...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_platform_virtualization_software

    Its main use is running old 16-bit DOS programs on 64-bit editions of
    Windows (which would normally be unable to run DOS software). I've seen old 16-bit DOS games from Steam

    yeah, that's emulating/providing the necessary 16bit environment to run those programs... those emulators are only needed because the code to do it is no longer included in the OS like it used to be... NTVDM was one of those which m$
    has removed in their
    later OS releases... if one could find all the parts, they /might/ be able to put NTVDM back in place on (eg) W10 and use it but that's unlikely as there's probably dll conflicts that would get in the way...


    )\/(ark

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ The SouthEast Star Mail HUB - SESTAR
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)
  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Monday, September 23, 2019 09:59:13
    From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-9i6-this

    To: Rampage
    Re: DOS Doors? linux/dosemu
    By: Rampage to Nightfox on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:33 am

    I've seen DOSEmu or similar for Windows.

    or similar is not the same thing ;)

    By "or similar", I just meant something that allows 16-bit DOS software to run on 64-bit Windows.

    Nightfox

    ---
    þ Synchronet þ Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
    --- Synchronet 3.17c-Win32 NewsLink 1.111
    * Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)