From: echicken@ECBBS.remove-zvt-this

To: DesotoFireflite
Re: Avatars
By: DesotoFireflite to All on Tue Feb 06 2018 10:32:56

Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that if I made me an avatar on my system, it would be exported to all systems that have been

If you have the avatar-export event configured then yes, this should be happening.

http://wiki.synchro.net/module:avatars#avat-out

Your system has exported avatars; they have propagated to my system (one for you, one for Mojo).

upgraded to use avatar that I am a member of. That is not happening. I am having to select my avatar on every system. The starange thing is, I'm

Avatars are unique to a user+origin pair, which is to say that the avatar you choose for yourself on a given BBS will only be shown alongside messages that you send from that BBS.

If you're logging into other boards and not seeing an avatar alongside messages that you posted from your own system, there could be a few things going on. Maybe the sysop needs to update things; these features have stabilized somewhat, but there were a few points in the initial couple of weeks of work where they were broken. Maybe your avatar just hasn't propagated to these systems yet. Maybe they don't have the avatar import event set up.

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From: desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-3ff-this

Exporting Of Avatars

Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that if I made me an avatar on my system, it would be exported to all systems that have been upgraded to use avatar that I am a member of. That is not happening. I am having to select my avatar on every system. The starange thing is, I'm seeing other systems avatars on my system. Have I possably missed something in the setup. I followed the setup to the letter, and I have both import and export enabled. What am I missing, or do I have to manually set my avatar on every system?

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-88b-this

To: DesotoFireflite
Re: Avatars
By: DesotoFireflite to All on Tue Feb 06 2018 10:32 am

Exporting Of Avatars

Correct me if I am wrong, but I was under the impression that if I made me an avatar on my system, it would be exported to all systems that have been upgraded to use avatar that I am a member of. That is not happening.

No, that's the design. There could be another "Digital Man" on another BBS in DOVE-Net (god forbid) and I wouldn't want my chosen avatar to be assigned to *that* Digital Man.

The personal avatars that are exported are used to identify you (your alias) on a particular network node (e.g. DesotoFireflight@VAHALLA). If you're a member of multiple BBSes, then yes, you could have to select (or upload or edit) your avatar on all them.

I am
having to select my avatar on every system. The starange thing is, I'm seeing other systems avatars on my system. Have I possably missed something in the setup. I followed the setup to the letter, and I have both import and export enabled. What am I missing, or do I have to manually set my avatar on every system?

Yes. We don't have a network-wide alias reservation system, so there could be a different DesotoFireflite somewhere, but there will only be *one* DesotoFireflight@VAHALLA. :-)

digital man

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-109n-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Tue Feb 06 2018 02:54 pm

No, that's the design. There could be another "Digital Man" on another BBS in DOVE-Net (god forbid) and I wouldn't want my chosen avatar to be assigned to *that* Digital Man.

In the (almost) 11 years I've been running Synchronet and reading Dove-Net, only now have I run into another person using 'Nightfox' as a handle on another BBS on Dove-Net. I have been using 'Nightfox' since 1994 and had seen references to other Nightfoxes on the internet but have never run into another one personally until recently..

Nightfox

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-gk3-this

To: Nightfox
Re: Avatars
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Tue Feb 06 2018 04:16 pm

Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Tue Feb 06 2018 02:54 pm

No, that's the design. There could be another "Digital Man" on another BBS in DOVE-Net (god forbid) and I wouldn't want my chosen avatar to be assigned to *that* Digital Man.

In the (almost) 11 years I've been running Synchronet and reading Dove-Net, only now have I run into another person using 'Nightfox' as a handle on another BBS on Dove-Net. I have been using 'Nightfox' since 1994 and had seen references to other Nightfoxes on the internet but have never run into another one personally until recently..

Case in point. :-)

digital man

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-v0f-this

To: DesotoFireflite
Re: Avatars
By: DesotoFireflite to Digital Man on Wed Feb 07 2018 11:30 am

Got it, but your right, there can never be a duplication of a DesotoFireflite or a Digital Man, both are one of a kind :)

I could potentially see other Rush fans using Digital Man..

Nightfox

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From: desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-upo-this

To: echicken
Re: Avatars
By: echicken to DesotoFireflite on Tue Feb 06 2018 11:52 am

If you have the avatar-export event configured then yes, this should be happening.

http://wiki.synchro.net/module:avatars#avat-out

Your system has exported avatars; they have propagated to my system (one for you, one for Mojo).

OK, sounds good. I guess the key is time. Sorry, sometimes I jump the gun a little.

Avatars are unique to a user+origin pair, which is to say that the avatar you choose for yourself on a given BBS will only be shown alongside messages that you send from that BBS.

Ahh, ok. I thought that it would appear at login like on my bbs, and other areas. I thought is was a global thing. Now I understand, it just goes toother systems with my messages if the other system is set up.

Thanks

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From: desotofireflite@VALHALLA.remove-upo-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to DesotoFireflite on Tue Feb 06 2018 02:54 pm

No, that's the design. There could be another "Digital Man" on another BBS in DOVE-Net (god forbid) and I wouldn't want my chosen avatar to be assigned to *that* Digital Man.
Yes. We don't have a network-wide alias reservation system, so there could be a different DesotoFireflite somewhere, but there will only be *one* DesotoFireflight@VAHALLA. :-)

Got it, but your right, there can never be a duplication of a DesotoFireflite or a Digital Man, both are one of a kind :)

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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-qy1-this

To: DIGITAL MAN

No, that's the design. There could be another "Digital Man" on another BBS in >DOVE-Net (god forbid) and I wouldn't want my chosen avatar to be assigned to >*that* Digital Man.

'That Digital Man' sounds like a good handle. :)

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From: daryl.stout@TBOLT.remove-jc5-this

To: DIGITAL MAN
Rob,

No, that's the design. There could be another "Digital Man" on another BBS i DM>DOVE-Net (god forbid) and I wouldn't want my chosen avatar to be assigned to DM>*that* Digital Man.

Maybe he's your evil twin. <G>

Daryl

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From: the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-j8b-this

To: Digital Man
Maybe more avatars on different genres.

$ The Millionaire $

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From: the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-zd0-this

To: Digital Man

Maybe more avatars on different genres.

$ The Millionaire $

..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...

How about flags for different countries?

$ The Millionaire $

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From: kurisu@FINALZON.remove-79k-this

To: The Millionaire
Re: Avatars
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Oct 15 2020 12:54 pm

How about flags for different countries?

Yes, because I need to show my support for various nations that some may not like. ;)
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From: mortifis@EPHRAM.remove-qkt-this

To: Kurisu

Re: Avatars
By: The Millionaire to Digital Man on Thu Oct 15 2020 12:54 pm

How about flags for different countries?

Yes, because I need to show my support for various nations that some may not like. ;)

Kurisu Yamato

while we're at it, we might as well have a collection of religious symbols and idols as well :-P

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From: the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-jlo-this

To: Digital Man

Maybe more avatars on different genres.

$ The Millionaire $

..."I'm board. Time to set up another Synchronet BBS."...

How about the looney tunes characters too?

$ The Millionaire $

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From: kurisu@FINALZON.remove-qx5-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: Avatars
By: Mortifis to Kurisu on Thu Oct 15 2020 09:04 pm

while we're at it, we might as well have a collection of religious symbols and idols as well :-P

Ah yes, what better place to show my support of Moloch than on bulletin board systems!
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From: mortifis@EPHRAM.remove-luy-this

To: Kurisu

Re: Re: Avatars
By: Mortifis to Kurisu on Thu Oct 15 2020 09:04 pm

while we're at it, we might as well have a collection of religious symbols and idols as well :-P

Ah yes, what better place to show my support of Moloch than on bulletin board systems!

Well, if you were rastafarian, we'd at least twist one up :-P

Anyone want to do a gunga.bin ... or would that be cana.bin :-)

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From: blaz@PNLTYBOX.remove-kjo-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: Avatars
By: Mortifis to Kurisu on Thu Oct 15 2020 09:04 pm

Yes, because I need to show my support for various nations that some may not like. ;)

while we're at it, we might as well have a collection of religious symbols and idols as well :-P

I'm still looking for a great Allah ANSI.

BlaZ

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-edc-this

To: BlaZ
Re: Re: Avatars
By: BlaZ to Mortifis on Thu Oct 15 2020 08:59 pm

Re: Re: Avatars
By: Mortifis to Kurisu on Thu Oct 15 2020 09:04 pm

Yes, because I need to show my support for various nations that some may not like. ;)

while we're at it, we might as well have a collection of religious symbols and idols as well :-P

I'm still looking for a great Allah ANSI.

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

digital man

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From: the.doctor@QBBS.remove-1ma-this

To: DIGITAL MAN

--- DIGITAL MAN wrote ---

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

digital man

I think it's both, isn't it?




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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-uc9-this

To: the doctor
Re: Re: Avatars
By: the doctor to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Oct 16 2020 11:53 am

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

<shrug>

digital man

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-xn1-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to BlaZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 12:50 am

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

Isn't "Allah" just their word for "god"?

Nightfox

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From: fang-castro@FTPBBS.remove-11u0-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: Avatars
By: Mortifis to Kurisu on Fri Oct 16 2020 02:08 am

Re: Re: Avatars
By: Mortifis to Kurisu on Thu Oct 15 2020 09:04 pm

while we're at it, we might as well have a collection of religious symbols and idols as well :-P

Ah yes, what better place to show my support of Moloch than on bulletin board systems!

Well, if you were rastafarian, we'd at least twist one up :-P

I was already considering a marijuana leaf; now I'm going to make that and an ankh and the cross-buster.

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From: mro@BBSESINF.remove-12ja-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to BlaZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 12:50 am

I'm still looking for a great Allah ANSI.

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

probably both. i live with a muslim so i can ask her.
but pretty sure it's both.
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From: mro@BBSESINF.remove-12ja-this

To: Nightfox
Re: Re: Avatars
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Oct 16 2020 12:49 pm

Re: Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to BlaZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 12:50 am

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

Isn't "Allah" just their word for "god"?

yeah. you probably arent supposed to draw allah or use his real name.

i'm wondering if they can draw jesus because he's considered a prophet by muslims.



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From: jon.justvig@STEPPING.remove-32e-this

To: Nightfox
... Nightfox scribbled to Digital Man in the sand ...

Re: Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to BlaZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 12:50 am

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

Isn't "Allah" just their word for "god"?

Among Muslims.

Sincerely,
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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-dwp-this

To: Nightfox
Re: Re: Avatars
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Fri Oct 16 2020 12:49 pm

Re: Re: Avatars
By: Digital Man to BlaZ on Fri Oct 16 2020 12:50 am

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

Isn't "Allah" just their word for "god"?

It is. But you're not supposed to draw him/it or their prophet, Mohamed. I think it's Mohamed you're not supposed to draw pictures of, it's a major offense to the Muslim religion (I think... I don't know much about it).

digital man

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From: tracker1@TRN.remove-11ny-this

To: Digital Man
On 10/16/2020 12:50 AM, Digital Man wrote:

I'm still looking for a great Allah ANSI.

Is it Allah or Mohamed we're not supposed to draw?

IIRC image depicitions of sentient beings in general are frowned upon.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aniconism_in_Islam

https://islam.stackexchange.com/questions/29371/is-drawing-god-allowed-in-islam

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From: deon@ALTERANT.remove-ibo-this

To: Digital Man
Howdy,

I just noticed that avatars are workingin FTN fed echo areas - nice work :)

...ëîåï

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-2mx-this

To: deon
Re: Avatars
By: deon to Digital Man on Sun Jan 31 2021 10:08 am

Howdy,

I just noticed that avatars are workingin FTN fed echo areas - nice work :)

Thanks. :-) It was my intention all along, but I didn't consider that most sysops would only import SYNCDATA via one network technology (e.g. QWKnet) while seeing messages from those same systems/users on other network technologies (e.g. FTN) - so there
was a gap there in the association between the 2 net-types and thus avatars weren't usually working on FTNs. It was pretty easy to fix but does require that systems update to SBBSecho v3.12 to see the benefit.
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From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-3f7-this

To: deon

On 01-31-21 10:08, deon wrote to Digital Man <=-

Howdy,

I just noticed that avatars are workingin FTN fed echo areas - nice
work :)

Now if only the author of Multimail could add avatar support, so I can see them. :)


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From: tracker1@TRN.remove-spv-this

To: Tony Langdon
On 1/31/2021 12:36 AM, Tony Langdon wrote:

I just noticed that avatars are workingin FTN fed echo areas - nice
work :)

Now if only the author of Multimail could add avatar support, so I can see them. :)

You'd need access to the SBBSDATA echo as part of your multimail feed,
and it would need to keep a local database.

I do think a web service lookup would be a good idea for other clients
to integrate with. Though it might bloat the output, even having the
author avatar as a header in the qwk packet as an option for each
message or extension file might be an idea as well.
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From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-104n-this

To: Tracker1

On 02-04-21 05:06, Tracker1 wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Now if only the author of Multimail could add avatar support, so I can see them. :)

You'd need access to the SBBSDATA echo as part of your multimail feed,
and it would need to keep a local database.

Well, the first part is easy, given that I would be accessing my BBS.

I do think a web service lookup would be a good idea for other clients
to integrate with. Though it might bloat the output, even having the author avatar as a header in the qwk packet as an option for each
message or extension file might be an idea as well.

Sounds like it needs a bit of thought. I haven't looked into avatars at all yet, because for me they currently serve no practical purpose.


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