From: the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-s89-this

To: digital man
hey rob is there a way to get sync on ipad. thanks.
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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-evm-this

To: The Millionaire
Re: sync on ipad
By: The Millionaire to digital man on Wed May 22 2019 04:31 pm

hey rob is there a way to get sync on ipad. thanks.

You can't run Synchronet on a iPad, but you could run a telnet/ssh/rlogin client on an iPad. Or even just use a web browser and go to a page running fTelnet (e.g. web.synchro.net).

digital man

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-icd-this

To: Digital Man
Re: sync on ipad
By: Digital Man to The Millionaire on Wed May 22 2019 07:39 pm

You can't run Synchronet on a iPad, but you could run a telnet/ssh/rlogin client on an iPad. Or even just use a web browser and go to a page running fTelnet (e.g. web.synchro.net).

Years ago, I had an iPod Touch that I had jailbroken, and I was able to SSH into the iPod Touch to get to a command prompt.. It looked like a similar command prompt to what's used on Mac OS X. If BSD is being used behind the scenes on iOS, I'd imagine it may be possible to install the compiler tools and build Synchronet for it. I'm not sure though, as I've never tried that..

Nightfox

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From: daitengu@ENSEMBLE.remove-1o5-this

To: Nightfox
Re: sync on ipad
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu May 23 2019 09:20 am

Years ago, I had an iPod Touch that I had jailbroken, and I was able to SSH into the iPod Touch to get to a command prompt.. It looked like a similar command prompt to what's used on Mac OS X. If BSD is being used behind the scenes on iOS, I'd imagine it may be possible to install the compiler tools and build Synchronet for it. I'm not sure though, as I've never tried that..

It'd have to be jailbroken at the very least, since you'd need to open inbound ports. I don't think that's allowed in the regular firmware, and I'm pretty sure it's not allowed on Android either without rooting it.

DaiTengu

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-15m-this

To: DaiTengu
Re: sync on ipad
By: DaiTengu to Nightfox on Thu May 23 2019 01:10 pm

It'd have to be jailbroken at the very least, since you'd need to open inbound ports. I don't think that's allowed in the regular firmware, and I'm pretty sure it's not allowed on Android either without rooting it.

That's true. But after jailbreaking/rooting, it at least seems like it might be posisble..

Nightfox

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From: the.millionaire@vert.synchro.net.remove-lu1-this

To: Nightfox
Re: sync on ipad
By: Nightfox to DaiTengu on Thu May 23 2019 12:32 pm

well i heard apple could shut you down if you jailbreak. Is that true or a scare tactic?
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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-kft-this

To: The Millionaire
Re: sync on ipad
By: The Millionaire to Nightfox on Fri May 24 2019 08:58 pm

well i heard apple could shut you down if you jailbreak. Is that true or a scare tactic?

I've never heard that, and it seems like more of a scare tactic. I used to have an iPod Touch - The last time I had one was about 10 years ago, but I jailbroke mine and never had a problem with accessing Apple's App Store or anything like that.

Nightfox

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From: mortifis@ALLEYCAT.remove-993-this

To: DaiTengu

Re: sync on ipad
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu May 23 2019 09:20 am

Years ago, I had an iPod Touch that I had jailbroken, and I was able to SSH into the iPod Touch to get to a command prompt.. It looked like a similar command prompt to what's used on Mac OS X. If BSD is being used behind the scenes on iOS, I'd imagine it may be possible to install the compiler tools and build Synchronet for it. I'm not sure though, as I've never tried that..

It'd have to be jailbroken at the very least, since you'd need to open inbound ports. I don't think that's allowed in the regular firmware, and I'm pretty sure it's not allowed on Android either without rooting it.

Andriod does allow non-rooted devices to run 'server apps', I installed a version of webkick with php/mysql support and ported my etrucker website onto an andriod tablet as a stand alone 'app' for a client, though, the problem is it is not easy to port forward to a tablet and certainly there are no configurable port-forwarding mechanisms available for mobile isp ... but then the real issue would be; would the platform support continuous accessibility or is just a 'I climbed the mountain because it was there' type scenario .... even SBBS on a raspberry pi is iffy since it is not necessarily designed to uptime indefinitely ... just sayin


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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-tk0-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Mortifis to DaiTengu on Mon May 27 2019 01:12 pm

type scenario .... even SBBS on a raspberry pi is iffy since it is not necessarily designed to uptime indefinitely ... just sayin

What's that mean?

digital man

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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-xk4-this

To: DIGITAL MAN

type scenario .... even SBBS on a raspberry pi is iffy since it is not necessarily designed to uptime indefinitely ... just sayin

What's that mean?

I read it to mean the uptime of the platform... the pi... and not the software... sbbs. That said, I have Synchronet running on an SBC (an UP
Board) which has been running near-continuously for nearly a year now, and
I also have an RPi hosting a magicka bbs which has also been running near-continuously for over a year now.

So, I hope he is wrong about that. :)

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From: mortifis@ALLEYCAT.remove-l1g-this

To: Digital Man

Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Mortifis to DaiTengu on Mon May 27 2019 01:12 pm

type scenario .... even SBBS on a raspberry pi is iffy since it is not necessarily designed to uptime indefinitely ... just sayin

What's that mean?

digital man

Just meant that , IMHO, a raspberry pi isn't really designed to run forever like a PC, even a class 10 SD card will become corrupted eventually.


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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-vnn-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Mortifis to Digital Man on Wed May 29 2019 04:43 pm

Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Mortifis to DaiTengu on Mon May 27 2019 01:12 pm

type scenario .... even SBBS on a raspberry pi is iffy since it is not necessarily designed to uptime indefinitely ... just sayin

What's that mean?

Just meant that , IMHO, a raspberry pi isn't really designed to run forever like a PC, even a class 10 SD card will become corrupted eventually.

I don't think that's the fault of the rPi though, is it? You could always attach a USB SSD or hard disk and use that for your writable storage.


digital man

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-g4q-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Mortifis to Digital Man on Wed May 29 2019 04:43 pm

Just meant that , IMHO, a raspberry pi isn't really designed to run forever like a PC, even a class 10 SD card will become corrupted eventually.

All hardware wears out eventually.. I've heard SSDs have a limited number of writes, but I've had an SSD in my desktop PC at home for almost 7 years now and the SSD is still working.

Nightfox

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From: netsurge@1:229/101.remove-er3-this

To: Mortifis

Just meant that , IMHO, a raspberry pi isn't really designed to run forever like a PC, even a class 10 SD card will become corrupted eventually.

Not sure about that. I have multiple RPI's that I have running at home that have been running for quite a long time without interruption or issue. I have
a Pi3 that is running Homebridge (an open source Home Kit bridge) that has an uptime of 713 days.

Most windows computers crap out after a few months of being on.

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From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-er3-this

To: Mortifis

On 05-29-19 16:43, Mortifis wrote to Digital Man <=-

Just meant that , IMHO, a raspberry pi isn't really designed to run forever like a PC, even a class 10 SD card will become corrupted eventually.

True, but uptime can still be months, and the SD issue can ba managed with scheduled replacement cycles - in my case, every 6 months. For a single BBS on a Pi, 12 month maintenance cycles is feasible (I run 2 BBSs and other stuff, hence the shorter replacement cycle - in fact, the card will last around 12 months on my setup).

Still a lot better uptime than I ever managed under DOS. Only OS/2 came close back in the day. :)


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From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-er3-this

To: Nightfox

On 05-29-19 14:02, Nightfox wrote to Mortifis <=-

All hardware wears out eventually.. I've heard SSDs have a limited
number of writes, but I've had an SSD in my desktop PC at home for
almost 7 years now and the SSD is still working.

I've read an article that suggests a SSD will likely outlast the rest of the hardware, before it reaches its write limit in ordinary domestic/hobbyist use.


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From: dan.clough@PALANT.remove-p46-this

To: Mortifis

Mortifis wrote to Digital Man <=-

type scenario .... even SBBS on a raspberry pi is iffy since it is not necessarily designed to uptime indefinitely ... just sayin

DM > What's that mean?

Just meant that , IMHO, a raspberry pi isn't really designed to
run forever like a PC, even a class 10 SD card will become
corrupted eventually.

A PC isn't designed to run forever, either.

You don't need to use an SD card at all to run an RPi. I have one
running 24/7 with a 500Gb SATA HD and no SD, it's been up close to
three years now. There's no reason to think that the RPi board
itself will fail any quicker than a "normal" PC. I have heat
sinks on the CPU/GPU and it's cool and stable.





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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-ux4-this

To: Tony Langdon
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Thu May 30 2019 10:05 am

All hardware wears out eventually.. I've heard SSDs have a limited
number of writes, but I've had an SSD in my desktop PC at home for
almost 7 years now and the SSD is still working.

I've read an article that suggests a SSD will likely outlast the rest of the hardware, before it reaches its write limit in ordinary domestic/hobbyist use.

That may be true, I'm not sure. At first I was worried the SSD wouldn't last as long as a regular hard drive, but mine has been fine.

Nightfox

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From: netsurge@1:229/101.remove-tzl-this

To: Nightfox

That may be true, I'm not sure. At first I was worried the SSD wouldn't last as long as a regular hard drive, but mine has been fine.

SSD technology has jumped leaps and bounds in the past 5-6 years. The
writes limits have increased exponentially and modern operating system filesystems are really good at limiting writes.

Our latest HP StorageWorks file server at work contains nothing but SSDs.

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From: android8675@SHODAN.remove-tzl-this

To: Netsurge
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Netsurge to Mortifis on Wed May 29 2019 06:39 pm

Most windows computers crap out after a few months of being on.

Dude, stop baggin on Windows. My XP VM craps out every 24 hours, but I'll find that problem soon, but the Win10 system host has been running for close to a year now save for a couple power outtages without issue.

I get it, Linux... uptime... Oooo...
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From: android8675@SHODAN.remove-tzl-this

To: Digital Man
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Digital Man to Mortifis on Wed May 29 2019 01:25 pm

Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Mortifis to Digital Man on Wed May 29 2019 04:43 pm

Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Mortifis to DaiTengu on Mon May 27 2019 01:12 pm

type scenario .... even SBBS on a raspberry pi is iffy since it is
not necessarily designed to uptime indefinitely ... just sayin

Just meant that , IMHO, a raspberry pi isn't really designed to run
forever like a PC, even a class 10 SD card will become corrupted
eventually.

I don't think that's the fault of the rPi though, is it? You could always attach a USB SSD or hard disk and use that for your writable storage.

I don't know of ANY storage medium that doesn't have a finite life span. I mean think about, it Physical disk mechs fail, magnetic media loses it's ability to be magnetic, Solid States give out over time (lose ability to retain data), as do smaller SD cards and what have you.

I mean lets go into any compoent... CPUs fail, RAM fails, serial controllers fail, etc.

I think the beauty of all this open source stuff is you can run programs on just about any type of hardware that's capable... I think a rPi could easily "run forever", and if it doesn't there'll be something else you can slap your data onto and there ya go... a good disaster recovery plan is what you should consider, but honestly it's a BBS...

-A.
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From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-51p-this

To: Nightfox

On 05-29-19 20:42, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

That may be true, I'm not sure. At first I was worried the SSD
wouldn't last as long as a regular hard drive, but mine has been fine.

Yes, the feedback seems to be very good for SSD.


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From: android8675@SHODAN.remove-tzl-this

To: Nightfox
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Wed May 29 2019 08:42 pm

That may be true, I'm not sure. At first I was worried the SSD wouldn't last as long as a regular hard drive, but mine has been fine.

HDDs much more likely to fail, all those spinning platters. shocked they work as good as they do these days.
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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-xyz-this

To: Netsurge
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Netsurge to Mortifis on Wed May 29 2019 06:39 pm

Most windows computers crap out after a few months of being on.

I've had my BBS running on several different versions of Windows over the
years (either on real hardware or in a VM), and it hasn't had a significant problem.

Nightfox

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-xyz-this

To: Android8675
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Thu May 30 2019 07:13 am

HDDs much more likely to fail, all those spinning platters. shocked they work as good as they do these days.

HDDs have been around for a very long time. There had to be reliable HDD technology for servers that run 24/7, and I imagine some of that reliable HDD technology got passed to consumer-grade HDDs over the years too.

Nightfox

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From: va7aqd@VA7AQDS.remove-quk-this

To: Android8675
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Android8675 to Netsurge on Thu May 30 2019 07:12 am

Dude, stop baggin on Windows.

Hey, they *had* to get Windows reliability up so they could get more reliable spying data (er, "metrics"). heh

I get it, Linux... uptime... Oooo...

Ironic from the guy who has Android in his name?

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From: steven.wolf@1:267/160.remove-nod-this

To: Nightfox
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Nightfox to Netsurge on Thu May 30 2019 09:57 am

Most windows computers crap out after a few months of being on.

I've had my BBS running on several different versions of Windows over the years (either on real hardware or in a VM), and it hasn't had a significant problem.

Maybe he's just another windowz hater like me?? lol


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From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-11x0-this

To: Android8675

On 05-30-19 07:13, Android8675 wrote to Nightfox <=-

HDDs much more likely to fail, all those spinning platters. shocked
they work as good as they do these days.

An example of highly refined engineering. Modern HDDs are an amazing piece of technology. They work so well, because so much R&D has gone into them.


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From: netsurge@1:229/101.remove-pap-this

To: Android8675

Dude, stop baggin on Windows. My XP VM craps out every 24 hours, but
I'll find that problem soon, but the Win10 system host has been running for close to a year now save for a couple power outtages without issue.

They have come a long way and there server technology is top notch compared
to the days of NT. Linux at its core was written to be a set it and forget it headless server environment. When you add a windows manager and a ton of
other crap over the Linux core you also get unreliability. All OSes have
their issues.

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From: android8675@SHODAN.remove-vdt-this

To: Va7aqd
Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Va7aqd to Android8675 on Thu May 30 2019 12:26 pm

Re: Re: sync on ipad
By: Android8675 to Netsurge on Thu May 30 2019 07:12 am

Dude, stop baggin on Windows.

Hey, they *had* to get Windows reliability up so they could get more reliable spying data (er, "metrics"). heh

Yeah, they know all my favorite porn. :)

I get it, Linux... uptime... Oooo...

Ironic from the guy who has Android in his name?

I've had this name since the 80s, but I get ya. My wife has an Android phone, and I'm considering it if my 6s ever dies. I have an old iPhone 1 that was jailbroken. My thoughts are so random at 6am.
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