From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-1162-this

To: charlie
Re: DDNS not working correctly
By: charlie to alt.bbs.synchronet on Fri Mar 02 2018 11:28 pm

From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

I'm puzzled. I joined DOVE-Net yesterday, successfully - I'm getting QWK packets of messages. Then I followed the instructions at http://wiki.synchro.net/module:dyndns
but I'm not able to connect to my BBS either by web or telnet. I can ping the DDNS hostname though (coffee.synchro.net) and it comes back with my
WAN (Internet) IP4 address, so it looks like DDNS is actually working.

I've forwarded TCP ports 21,22,23,80 and 513 in my router, which is a Linksys E-1200 v.2 running DD-WRT v.3.0-r31924 mega. I even tried putting
my PC in the DMZ. I've also disabled the firewall in PCLinuxOS, so I
should be wide open to the Internet at the moment (I'm not going to leave
it that way!) It's as though my services aren't binding to my external IP. (I can connect to my BBS via web by entering my internal LAN IP as the
URL.)

Any ideas?

It could be that your router doesn't support hair-pinning, so you'd have to use your local/private IP address to connect to your own servers in that case.

Also see:
http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ports

There's a link there to a web page you can use to see what servers/services you have open to the public Internet.

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #13:
Nigel Tufnel: You can't really dust for vomit.
Norco, CA WX: 53.9�F, 86.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs --- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: no@mail.com

On Fri, 02 Mar 2018 18:00:28 -0800, Digital Man wrote:

To: charlie
Re: DDNS not working correctly By: charlie to alt.bbs.synchronet on
Fri Mar 02 2018 11:28 pm

From Newsgroup: alt.bbs.synchronet

I'm puzzled. I joined DOVE-Net yesterday, successfully - I'm getting
QWK packets of messages. Then I followed the instructions at http://wiki.synchro.net/module:dyndns but I'm not able to connect to
my BBS either by web or telnet. I can ping the DDNS hostname though (coffee.synchro.net) and it comes back with my WAN (Internet) IP4
address, so it looks like DDNS is actually working.

I've forwarded TCP ports 21,22,23,80 and 513 in my router, which is a Linksys E-1200 v.2 running DD-WRT v.3.0-r31924 mega. I even tried
putting my PC in the DMZ. I've also disabled the firewall in
PCLinuxOS, so I should be wide open to the Internet at the moment
(I'm not going to leave it that way!) It's as though my services
aren't binding to my external IP.
(I can connect to my BBS via web by entering my internal LAN IP as
the URL.)

Any ideas?

It could be that your router doesn't support hair-pinning, so you'd have
to use your local/private IP address to connect to your own servers in
that case.

Also see:
http://wiki.synchro.net/faq:tcpip#ports

There's a link there to a web page you can use to see what
servers/services you have open to the public Internet.

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #13:
Nigel Tufnel: You can't really dust for vomit.
Norco, CA WX: 53.9°F, 86.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.00 inches
rain/24hrs --- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

Thank you very much. That's indeed what's happening. I'd never heard of "hairpinning" but apparently my router doesn't support it as I am able to
log onto my board's web interface from another IP using Tor browser.

Thanks for the port scan utility. It's very helpful. I wonder why it
shows that telnet on port 23 fails even though I have that port
forwarded? The telnet service must be running as I can telnet into my
board locally (using my local internal LAN IP.)





--
/home/poets/sig

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: no@mail.com

I'm puzzled. I joined DOVE-Net yesterday, successfully - I'm getting QWK packets of messages. Then I followed the instructions at http://wiki.synchro.net/module:dyndns
but I'm not able to connect to my BBS either by web or telnet. I can ping
the DDNS hostname though (coffee.synchro.net) and it comes back with my
WAN (Internet) IP4 address, so it looks like DDNS is actually working.

I've forwarded TCP ports 21,22,23,80 and 513 in my router, which is a
Linksys E-1200 v.2 running DD-WRT v.3.0-r31924 mega. I even tried putting
my PC in the DMZ. I've also disabled the firewall in PCLinuxOS, so I
should be wide open to the Internet at the moment (I'm not going to leave
it that way!) It's as though my services aren't binding to my external IP.
(I can connect to my BBS via web by entering my internal LAN IP as the
URL.)

Any ideas?

--
/home/poets/sig

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-pkw-this

To: charlie

On 2018 Mar 02 23:28:44, you wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet:

I've forwarded TCP ports 21,22,23,80 and 513 in my router, which is a

FTP uses at least two ports... 20 and 21... others may be used if PASV (passive) mode is needed...

the only other thing i can think of is if your router does not do hairpinning... that's where your internal devices can use your external WAN address and get to your internal server...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Any beer is better than no beer. Olympia is no beer.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-v0o-this

To: charlie
Re: Re: DDNS not working correctly
By: charlie to alt.bbs.synchronet on Sat Mar 03 2018 03:31 am

Thank you very much. That's indeed what's happening. I'd never heard of "hairpinning" but apparently my router doesn't support it as I am able to log onto my board's web interface from another IP using Tor browser.

Okay, cool. It doesn't hurt to just use your local/private IP address (or localhost) when logging on locally, though it can be pain sometimes for web testing where URLs might use hostnames.

Thanks for the port scan utility. It's very helpful. I wonder why it
shows that telnet on port 23 fails even though I have that port
forwarded?

It's possible, though unlikely, that your ISP is blocking TCP port 23.

The telnet service must be running as I can telnet into my
board locally (using my local internal LAN IP.)

Cool. You could also have a friend or stranger help test it for you from their system(s) somewhere else on the Internet.


digital man

Synchronet "Real Fact" #67:
SEXYZ is as a 32-bit replacement for [F]DSZ, CE-XYZ and other protocol drivers. Norco, CA WX: 50.1�F, 96.0% humidity, 0 mph WSW wind, 0.03 inches rain/24hrs --- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-cmh-this

To: Digital Man

On 2018 Mar 02 22:28:56, you wrote to charlie:

Thank you very much. That's indeed what's happening. I'd never heard of
"hairpinning" but apparently my router doesn't support it as I am able
to log onto my board's web interface from another IP using Tor browser.

Okay, cool. It doesn't hurt to just use your local/private IP address
(or localhost) when logging on locally, though it can be pain
sometimes for web testing where URLs might use hostnames.

yep, that's part of the pain that max has been dealing with since her SBBS has to be reverse proxied behind apache on the main system... that so that default port 80 can be used... with http 1.1, one can easily redirect the request to the actual desired host and feed the response back out as if it came from the main apache server... SBBS makes it a little tough to do this... FTP is really harsh when you have other FTP servers needing access, too... we have to do something special on our NAT firewall to tell ip_nat_ftp about the other base FTP ports so it will properly associate incoming connections with existing ones... it can be a deep hole to work in when hosting multiple servers with multiple protocols behind a NAT setup -=B-)

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 1 CPS)"
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: ed.vance@CAPCITY2.remove-1fs-this

To: mark lewis
03-03-18 10:48 mark lewis wrote to Digital Man about DDNS not working correctl Howdy! Mark,
-snip-

... A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 1 CPS)"

I'm just lurking through some Echos today and saw Your Tagline and
wanted to let You know it "made my day"!

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

Good For You!

BTW, last week I was sitting in the Doctors Waiting Room watching their Television set that showed medical shows on a closed channel when I saw
the local weather forcast showed it would be 11 Degrees that night.

I thought it was going to be really cold that night until later after
I left the Doctors Office and learned the Low Temperature for that night
was going to be in the Low 50's F.

I supposed the Forcast that I saw on the TV Set was in Fahrenheidt (sp?)
but it was Centigrade instead. BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that Private TV Channel had put a C after the Low of 11 I wouldn't had gotten so confused, and mentioned to others in the Waiting Room how Cold
it was going to be.

Me and My B-I-G Mouth!

... If you live in Hawaii, where do you go on vacation??
--- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
� Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-dbm-this

To: Ed Vance
Re: DDNS not working correctl
By: Ed Vance to mark lewis on Sun Mar 04 2018 05:22 pm

... A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 1 CPS)"

I'm just lurking through some Echos today and saw Your Tagline and
wanted to let You know it "made my day"!

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

I read that as characters (bytes) per second. <shrug>

digital man

This Is Spinal Tap quote #46:
"Not an Exit" - we don't want an exit. Well that's true.
Norco, CA WX: 56.5�F, 19.0% humidity, 1 mph SW wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-k24-this

To: Ed Vance

On 2018 Mar 04 17:22:00, you wrote to me:

... A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 1 CPS)"

I'm just lurking through some Echos today and saw Your Tagline and
wanted to let You know it "made my day"!

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ)

yup... especially since it is talking about bytes transferred ;)

but Cycles Per Second.

characters per second, actually...

Good For You!

thanks, i think :)

[...]

I supposed the Forcast that I saw on the TV Set was in Fahrenheidt
(sp?) but it was Centigrade instead. BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If that Private TV Channel had put a C after the Low of 11 I wouldn't
had gotten so confused, and mentioned to others in the Waiting Room
how Cold it was going to be.

i know the feeling, man... FeelsBadMan...

... If you live in Hawaii, where do you go on vacation??

Alaska :)

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... No problem is so big that high explosives can't cure it!
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: ed.vance@CAPCITY2.remove-t5o-this

To: Digital Man
03-06-18 00:29 Digital Man wrote to Ed Vance about DDNS not working correctl Howdy! DM,

@VIA: VERT
@MSGID: <5A9E5185.74120.sync@vert.synchro.net>
@REPLY: <5A9DF028.24274.sync@capitolcityonline.net>
Re: DDNS not working correctl
By: Ed Vance to mark lewis on Sun Mar 04 2018 05:22 pm

... A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 1 CPS)"

I'm just lurking through some Echos today and saw Your Tagline and
wanted to let You know it "made my day"!

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

I read that as characters (bytes) per second. <shrug>

You're CORRECT, I'm still in the Dark Ages of Electronics B4 Computers
in my mind. Duh!


... Famous Last Words: Oops.
--- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
� Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-tra-this

To: Digital Man

Digital Man wrote to Ed Vance <=-

... A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 1 CPS)"

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

I read that as characters (bytes) per second. <shrug>

So did I, given that it was a data transfer rate, which was never measured in Hz (or cycles per second). But characters per second was very common back in the day.


... 'Stupidity, if left untreated, is self-correcting' RAH.
=== MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
--- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: ed.vance@CAPCITY2.remove-ydh-this

To: mark lewis
03-06-18 08:09 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about DDNS not working correctl Howdy! Mark,

@VIA: VERT
@MSGID: <5A9E9991.74123.sync@vert.synchro.net>
On 2018 Mar 04 17:22:00, you wrote to me:

... A bad day: "Transfer completed (5720468 bytes, 1 CPS)"

I'm just lurking through some Echos today and saw Your Tagline and
wanted to let You know it "made my day"!

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ)

yup... especially since it is talking about bytes transferred ;)

but Cycles Per Second.

characters per second, actually...

I'm learning about that, first DM, now You. Who else??????


... Why does Windows require everyone who buys a PC to be an IT person? - PS --- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
� Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-nsz-this

To: Tony Langdon
Re: Re: DDNS not working correctl
By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Wed Mar 07 2018 05:25 pm

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

I read that as characters (bytes) per second. <shrug>

So did I, given that it was a data transfer rate, which was never measured in Hz (or cycles per second). But characters per second was very common back in the day.

Yeah, cycles per second/Hz doesn't really make sense for a data transfer rate.. I was familiar with characters per second.

Nightfox

---
� Synchronet � Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-nsz-this

To: Ed Vance
Re: DDNS not working correctl
By: Ed Vance to mark lewis on Sun Mar 04 2018 05:22 pm

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

Isn't it actually spelled Hertz?

When your CPU shocks you, on the other hand, it mega-hurts..

Nightfox

---
� Synchronet � Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-101l-this

To: Ed Vance

On 2018 Mar 06 22:15:00, you wrote to me:

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ)

yup... especially since it is talking about bytes transferred ;)

but Cycles Per Second.

characters per second, actually...

I'm learning about that, first DM, now You. Who else??????

you're OK, ed :)

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... Expert advice is a great comfort, even when it's wrong.
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: daryl.stout@TBOLT.remove-hxh-this

To: NIGHTFOX

Isn't it actually spelled Hertz?

When your CPU shocks you, on the other hand, it mega-hurts..

That's when your spouse cleans out your wallet and bank account when
they go shopping. <G>

Daryl

---
� OLX 1.53 � Algebra: What the Little Mermaid wears
� Synchronet � DoveNet: The Thunderbolt BBS - wx1der.dyndns.org
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-6ou-this

To: Nightfox

Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

Yeah, cycles per second/Hz doesn't really make sense for a data
transfer rate.. I was familiar with characters per second.

Think anyone involved with BBSing back then was familiar with characters per second. :)


... A man takes a drink, the drink takes another, and the drink takes the man. === MultiMail/Win32 v0.49
--- SBBSecho 3.03-Linux
* Origin: Freeway BBS Bendigo,Australia freeway.apana.org.au (3:633/410)
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: ed.vance@CAPCITY2.remove-bbv-this

To: Nightfox
03-07-18 09:41 Nightfox wrote to Ed Vance about DDNS not working correctl Howdy! Nightfox,

@VIA: VERT/DIGDIST
@MSGID: <5AA0242F.33642.dove_sync@digitaldistortionbbs.com>
@REPLY: <5A9DF028.24274.sync@capitolcityonline.net>
Re: DDNS not working correctl
By: Ed Vance to mark lewis on Sun Mar 04 2018 05:22 pm

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

Isn't it actually spelled Hertz?

The Persons name is spelled that way.
I read about Him in High School Physics Class years ago.

120 Volts A.C. 60 Cycles Per Second will give your fingers 60 Hurts A Second
if you hold the bare wires of a A.C. Line Cord that is plugged in to a wall socket.

When your CPU shocks you, on the other hand, it mega-hurts..

The CPU Clock runs in Mega-Hertz, the CPU runs on D.C. Power doesn't it?

Constant Hurts with D.C. Voltage instead of Alternating Hurts ? ? ??? ??? ? ?

It's the Alternating Ones That G-R-A-B-S You.

... Real programmers don't comment their code.
--- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
� Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: ed.vance@CAPCITY2.remove-bbv-this

To: mark lewis
03-07-18 13:45 mark lewis wrote to Ed Vance about DDNS not working correctl Howdy! Mark,

@VIA: VERT
@MSGID: <5AA0383C.74148.sync@vert.synchro.net>
On 2018 Mar 06 22:15:00, you wrote to me:

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ)

yup... especially since it is talking about bytes transferred ;)

but Cycles Per Second.

characters per second, actually...

I'm learning about that, first DM, now You. Who else??????

you're OK, ed :)

... Expert advice is a great comfort, even when it's wrong.

The computer didn't select a Random Tagline this time, did it? ? ??? ??? ? ?


... GUI: a set of pretty pictures to amuse the illiterate
--- MultiMail/MS-DOS v0.49
� Synchronet � CAPCITY2 * CCO BBS * capcity2.synchro.net:26
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-6i1-this

To: Ed Vance
Re: DDNS not working correctl
By: Ed Vance to Nightfox on Wed Mar 07 2018 11:39 pm

At the end I noticed that the Standard used wasn't HURTS (HZ) but
Cycles Per Second.

Isn't it actually spelled Hertz?

The Persons name is spelled that way.

And unit names are usually named after the person who came up with it..

Nightfox

---
� Synchronet � Digital Distortion: digitaldistortionbbs.com
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)

From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-ief-this

To: Ed Vance

On 2018 Mar 07 23:43:00, you wrote to me:

I'm learning about that, first DM, now You. Who else??????

you're OK, ed :)

... Expert advice is a great comfort, even when it's wrong.

The computer didn't select a Random Tagline this time, did it? ? ??? ??? ? ?

yes, it always does... rarely, if ever, will i change it...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... We're talking about sex, right? - Simpson, Homer
---
* Origin: (1:3634/12.73)
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.108
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net

--- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
* Origin: www.darkrealms.ca (1:229/2)