From: mortifis@ALLEYCAT.remove-eg2-this

I mostly run the Nightshade Web Interface, which I to read/reply/post to Dove-Net .. I am sure the answer to this question would apply to any theme ... I'd like to execute a system command and display the output ... I know how to do this in PHP but not JS ... more specific, running RPI Raspbian I can, from a terminal, run uptime and get the uptime of the OS since last reboot ... been racking my brain over it and my walnut is rattled ... any ideas?

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From: echicken@ECBBS.remove-acs-this

To: Nelgin
Re: Re: Web Interface
By: Nelgin to Mortifis on Fri Oct 12 2018 18:06:57

Javascript is client side so you'd have to find some way to get the server

The Synchronet web server can run server-side javascript.

I have no idea what "Nightshade Web Interface" is, however, so all this may be totally wrong :)

It's sort of a 'theme' around the old/stock/runemaster web interface for Synchronet. Many components of that web interface are server-side javascript.

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From: nelgin@EOTLBBS.remove-1qu-this

To: Mortifis
Mortifis wrote:

I mostly run the Nightshade Web Interface, which I to read/reply/post to Dove-Net .. I am sure the answer to this question would apply to any theme

...

I'd like to execute a system command and display the output ... I know how

to

do this in PHP but not JS ... more specific, running RPI Raspbian I can,

from a

terminal, run uptime and get the uptime of the OS since last reboot ... been racking my brain over it and my walnut is rattled ... any ideas?

Javascript is client side so you'd have to find some way to get the server
to give you the uptime. Take a look at this thread for ideas.

https://forums.digitalpoint.com/threads/javascript-server-uptime.947331/

If I wanted to get the sever uptime, I'd either use an include to run
uptime, write a cgi script or create my own AJAX type back end so I can
connect and get certain data from the system.

I have no idea what "Nightshade Web Interface" is, however, so all this may
be totally wrong :)

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From: echicken@ECBBS.remove-pyu-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: Web Interface
By: Mortifis to echicken on Sat Oct 13 2018 10:28:20

:) I totally suck at JS ... I know how to accomplish this easily in php ie: <?php
$up = system("uptime", $retval); // $up = $retval and is stored for later use while the output of system is immediately printed to console (or webpage if called from that)

You can run PHP on your Synchronet webserver if you really want to. There's some info about that on the wiki.

is there a JS equivalent to PHP's system() that I can store as @MYUPTIME@ type var for use in the web interface theme?

In Synchronet JS we have the 'system' object, which has an 'uptime' property. In an SSJS file you could do this to write your BBS uptime to the client:

write(system.uptime);

Or:

write('My uptime: ' + system.uptime);

This is Synchronet's uptime and not the OS', if that matters to you.


The system object also has a 'popen' method that could be useful. If you're on Linux you could probably do:

var up = system.popen('uptime');
writeln('My uptime: ' + up[0]);

Or:

var up = system.popen('uptime')[0];
writeln('My uptime: ' + up);

Or:

writeln('My uptime: ' + system.popen('uptime')[0]);

The system.popen(cmd) apparently does not work on Windows, and returns an array of lines output by the command.

As far as @MYUPTIME@ goes, I don't know my way around the old web templating system enough to comment on how you would integrate any of this with it.

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From: mortifis@ALLEYCAT.remove-50h-this

To: echicken

Javascript is client side so you'd have to find some way to get the server

The Synchronet web server can run server-side javascript.

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:) I totally suck at JS ... I know how to accomplish this easily in php ie: <?php
$up = system("uptime", $retval); // $up = $retval and is stored for later use while the output of system is immediately printed to console (or webpage if called from that)


is there a JS equivalent to PHP's system() that I can store as @MYUPTIME@ type var for use in the web interface theme?

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From: mortifis@ALLEYCAT.remove-1j9-this

To: echicken

Re: Re: Web Interface
By: Mortifis to echicken on Sat Oct 13 2018 10:28:20

Opened a beer then remembered, hey, we have grep so I ran grep -rnw '/sbbs/exec/load/' -e "NUSERS"
and found /sbbs/exec/load/msgutils.js:301: case 'STATS.NUSERS':

thanks for your help, eChicken, I'll post back if I accompish my sbbs task of the day LOL

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From: mortifis@ALLEYCAT.remove-1j9-this

To: echicken

Re: Re: Web Interface
By: Mortifis to echicken on Sat Oct 13 2018 10:28:20

:) I totally suck at JS ... I know how to accomplish this easily in php ie: <?php
$up = system("uptime", $retval); // $up = $retval and is stored for later use while the output of system is immediately printed to console (or webpage if called from that)

You can run PHP on your Synchronet webserver if you really want to. There's some info about that on the wiki.

Thank you, I have done that in the past, my main webserver is a LAMP running on another system, just trying to do a little customization of the web interface for SBBS

is there a JS equivalent to PHP's system() that I can store as @MYUPTIME@ type var for use in the web interface theme?

In Synchronet JS we have the 'system' object, which has an 'uptime' property. In an SSJS file you could do this to write your BBS uptime to the client:

write(system.uptime);

Or:

write('My uptime: ' + system.uptime);

This is Synchronet's uptime and not the OS', if that matters to you.

Thank you, already using sbbs system.uptime but I want to get the OS uptime

The system object also has a 'popen' method that could be useful. If you're on Linux you could probably do:

var up = system.popen('uptime');
writeln('My uptime: ' + up[0]);

Or:

var up = system.popen('uptime')[0];
writeln('My uptime: ' + up);

Thank you very very much this is very helpful!

As far as @MYUPTIME@ goes, I don't know my way around the old web templating
system enough to comment on how you would integrate any of this with it.

ok, I am narrowing things down a bit, I have spent so much time looking at the *.js files LOL so in /sbbs/text/sbbs.msg where are things like @TUSER-L@ and @STATS.NUSERS@ and the like getting set at? in /sbbs/web/root/members/sysinfo.ssjs under template.sysinfo = ""; ... switch(code.toUpperCase())) case blah blah blah which I have included my (renamed) OSUPTIME ...I looked at /sbbs/exec/load/sbbsdefs.js but did not locate NUSERS :/ ... wish I had vacation time coming up to use reading all files for STATS.NUSERS then at least somewhere I could drop in a var OSUPTIME = system.popen('uptime')[0]; :)

No, I don't want anyone to code it for me, just help point to where I plop those values in at without nuking the whole board LOL

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-10f8-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Web Interface
By: Mortifis to All on Fri Oct 12 2018 05:20 pm

I mostly run the Nightshade Web Interface, which I to read/reply/post to Dove-Net .. I am sure the answer to this question would apply to any theme ... I'd like to execute a system command and display the output ... I know how to do this in PHP but not JS ... more specific, running RPI Raspbian I can, from a terminal, run uptime and get the uptime of the OS since last reboot ... been racking my brain over it and my walnut is rattled ... any ideas?

There's the Synchronet system.popen() method (only works on *nix). Or you could just "uptime > uptime.txt" and then read/parse uptime.txt in your script.

digital man

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From: mortifis@ALLEYCAT.remove-21v-this

To: Digital Man

Re: Web Interface
By: Mortifis to All on Fri Oct 12 2018

05:20 pm

I mostly run the Nightshade Web

Interface, which I to read/reply/post to

Dove-Net .. I am sure the answer to

this question would apply to any

theme ... I'd like to execute a system

command and display the output ...

I know how to do this in PHP but not JS

... more specific, running RPI

Raspbian I can, from a terminal, run

uptime and get the uptime of the OS

since last reboot ... been racking my

brain over it and my walnut is

rattled ... any ideas?

There's the Synchronet system.popen()

method (only works on *nix). Or you

could just "uptime > uptime.txt" and then

read/parse uptime.txt in your

script.

digital man

I've been playing with system.open in various
locations ... trying to create a @MYUPTIME@
that can be read from the sbbs.msg so I guess
the right question yo ask is, are custom @-
codes possible and if yes where would one
define them?

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-26o-this

To: Mortifis
Re: Re: Web Interface
By: Mortifis to Digital Man on Sun Oct 14 2018 11:20 am

I've been playing with system.open in various
locations ... trying to create a @MYUPTIME@
that can be read from the sbbs.msg so I guess
the right question yo ask is, are custom @-
codes possible and if yes where would one
define them?

No, not really. sbbs.msg is displayed during new-user signup, so I'd just make a script that displayed whatever it was you want displayed and configure that as a new-user event in SCFG.

digital man

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From: echicken@ECBBS.remove-uvu-this

To: mark lewis
Re: Web Interface
By: mark lewis to echicken on Thu Oct 18 2018 14:10:06

thus the /web files with the extension .ssjs ;)

Important so that the server knows to execute the script locally rather than just serve it directly to the client (as it might with a .js or .html or whatever other extension file).

And .xjs should not be forgotten, as it lets you add inline SSJS to a file that will be served to a client:

This is sent to the client. Hello
<?xjs
// This is executed on the server
var a = ' client.';
write(a); // This is added to the body sent to the client
?>

As a rule it's better to use XJS rather than just straight SSJS, but there are times one is preferable to the other.

Also fun things can be done to expose server-side data to JS on the client side:

<script type="text/javascript">
var bbs_name = '<?xjs write(system.name); ?>';
alert('Here's an ugly alert box from ' + bbs_name);
</script>

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From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-uvu-this

To: echicken

On 2018 Oct 12 20:37:00, you wrote to Nelgin:

Javascript is client side so you'd have to find some way to get the
server

The Synchronet web server can run server-side javascript.

thus the /web files with the extension .ssjs ;)

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From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-113b-this

To: Nelgin
Re: Re: Web Interface
By: Nelgin to Mortifis on Fri Oct 12 2018 06:06 pm

Javascript is client side so you'd have to find some way to get the server to give you the uptime. Take a look at this thread for ideas.

As others have said, Synchronet can run JavaScript on the server side. Synchronet has JavaScript support built-in, and many mods for Synchronet for the web or telnet interface can be written in JavaScript. JavaScript can in fact be easily embedded in any program to provide scripting support. It's not just a web browser client-side language.

I have no idea what "Nightshade Web Interface" is, however, so all this may be totally wrong :)

The Nightshade web interface is the web interface that's included with Synchronet.

Nightfox

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From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-f7n-this

To: echicken

On 2018 Oct 18 15:24:42, you wrote to me:

thus the /web files with the extension .ssjs ;)

Important so that the server knows to execute the script locally
rather than just serve it directly to the client (as it might with a
.js or .html or whatever other extension file).

yup... i was mainly looking that the "ss" in "ssjs" means "server side" in the same was that "js" means "javascript" ;)

And .xjs should not be forgotten, as it lets you add inline SSJS to a
file that will be served to a client:

i hadn't found out about that one, yet... i was going to ask if that might be done... i had a ""fortunes"" script thing that i included in my main index page... i used it for quotes, though... i'm not interested in getting php working with sbbs, either, do i'll come up with another way to handle choosing a file of quotes to select a quote from to be included on my index page... each quote is separated from the next by a lone "%" character on an otherwise empty line... the php thing generated a binary index file for each file of quotes and then chose a random number between zero and the highest index number available for that file... i'll have to see if i can find the code... hopefully it wasn't lost when the other server went walkabout the day after the old BBS server left...

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-8v8-this

To: mark lewis
Re: Web Interface
By: mark lewis to echicken on Thu Oct 18 2018 04:54 pm

On 2018 Oct 18 15:24:42, you wrote to me:

thus the /web files with the extension .ssjs ;)

Important so that the server knows to execute the script locally
rather than just serve it directly to the client (as it might with a .js or .html or whatever other extension file).

yup... i was mainly looking that the "ss" in "ssjs" means "server side" in the same was that "js" means "javascript" ;)

Right, that distinction is really only for the web server though (sbbs/web/*). Most of the .js files you'll find in the sbbs tree are actually server-side and used by the terminal server. I actually don't know of any client-side .js files in the sbbs tree.

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From: echicken@ECBBS.remove-8v8-this

To: mark lewis
Re: Web Interface
By: mark lewis to echicken on Thu Oct 18 2018 16:54:00

getting php working with sbbs, either, do i'll come up with another way to handle choosing a file of quotes to select a quote from to be included on my index page... each quote is separated from the next by a lone "%" character on an otherwise empty line... the php thing generated a binary index file for each file of quotes and then chose a random number between zero and the highest index number available for that file... i'll have to see if i can find the code... hopefully it wasn't lost when the other server went walkabout the day after the old BBS server left...

The whole thing could be replicated in JS, but there are a few ways you could go about doing it. One nice thing is that it could be made usable on the console as well as the web side of things.

Are the quote files very large or do they grow over time?

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From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-z8g-this

To: echicken

On 2018 Oct 18 17:45:16, you wrote to me:

getting php working with sbbs, either, do i'll come up with another
way to handle choosing a file of quotes to select a quote from to be
included on my index page... each quote is separated from the next by
a lone "%" character on an otherwise empty line... the php thing
generated a binary index file for each file of quotes and then chose
a random number between zero and the highest index number available
for that file... i'll have to see if i can find the code... hopefully
it wasn't lost when the other server went walkabout the day after the
old BBS server left...

The whole thing could be replicated in JS,

yup...

but there are a few ways you could go about doing it.

that's almost always the case ;)

One nice thing is that it could be made usable on the console as well
as the web side of things.

true and that could be used to display a random quote to users when they log in...

Are the quote files very large or do they grow over time?

ummm... they do grow if/when i add more quotes to them... they are, however, static for the most part... adding a new entry means adding something like the following to the end of the file... then the indexes need to be regenerated...

BEFORE:
----->8 snip 8<-----
one, possibly multi-line, quote in file.
[eof]
----->8 snip 8<-----

AFTER:
----->8 snip 8<-----
one, possibly multi-line, quote in file.
%
one new multi-line<br>
quote added here<br>
with any html entities as<br>
needed. even nbsp if desired...
[eof]
----->8 snip 8<-----


let's see what i have... these are in DOS format so have CRLF line endings... i don't have a problem converting them to nix endings, though...

calvin Aug 3 2004 15223
chalkboard Aug 3 2004 34581
chapterhouse-dune Aug 3 2004 11228
children-of-dune Oct 2 2012 32493
cleankernelcookies Aug 3 2004 15008
comicbookguy Feb 28 2010 18983
dangerfield Jun 8 2006 2734
discworld Jun 2 2013 198405
dogs Jun 8 2006 3535
dune Oct 2 2012 21088
dune-messiah Aug 3 2004 9587
forestgump Jun 2 2013 2800
futurama Aug 3 2004 41843
god-emperor-dune Aug 4 2004 30358
heretics-of-dune Feb 28 2014 16837
hhgttg Aug 3 2004 23951
homer Apr 7 2010 53956
house-atreides Aug 3 2004 20782
house-harkonnen Aug 3 2004 20764
humor4lexophiles Dec 6 2008 4962
kernelcookies Jun 20 2004 16424
married-with-children Jun 2 2013 34544
oneliners Aug 3 2004 25647
osho Aug 3 2004 42265
pinkyandthebrain Dec 6 2008 12747
programingstyle Aug 3 2004 8434
quotes Nov 24 2015 39252
ralph Jun 8 2006 10354
starwars Aug 3 2004 10314
xfiles Aug 3 2004 32978
zippy Jun 9 2010 49790

quotes is mainly the one that i add stuff to... you can see it has been a while since i last edited them...

the dat files with the binary indexes are a lot smaller... for example, calvin.dat is only 528 bytes... there's 125 "%" lines in the calvin file so that's 127 quotes available...

[time passes]

i have now also finally found the original php "uses" file that contains the class and the functions to generate the index files as well as picking a specific or random quote from a specific or random file... i don't have a clue how easy it would be to convert it from php to js... it has been years since i last did much of anything with php...

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From: echicken@ECBBS.remove-o7p-this

To: mark lewis
Re: Web Interface
By: mark lewis to echicken on Fri Oct 19 2018 09:54:34

a specific or random quote from a specific or random file... i don't have a clue how easy it would be to convert it from php to js... it has been years since i last did much of anything with php...

If you want to zip this up and post it somewhere, I can have a go at it. (PHP stuff isn't strictly needed, but I used to do PHP and might be able to take some hints from the original code).

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From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-kao-this

To: echicken

On 2018 Oct 19 11:21:00, you wrote to me:

a specific or random quote from a specific or random file... i don't
have a clue how easy it would be to convert it from php to js... it
has been years since i last did much of anything with php...

If you want to zip this up and post it somewhere, I can have a go at
it. (PHP stuff isn't strictly needed, but I used to do PHP and might
be able to take some hints from the original code).

i can do that... gimme some time... i'll probably let you know where to find it via IRC...

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