Re: Greetings
By: Minex to All on Tue Oct 09 2018 08:19 am
Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?
Yes, you can do that via QWK, as long as there's a path accessible to both your BBS and the other BBS via QWK. For instance, if you wanted to send a message to me, you'd go to the email menu and send an email to nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST (which means it would be routed through VERT, then to DIGDIST, which is my BBS). Or you could send a message directly to someone at Vertrauen, such as nightfox@VERT.
Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?
New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system. I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+.
Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?
New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system. I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+. Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?
The routing is normally automatic (in Synchronet), so just "nightfox@DIGDIST" should work everywhere.
Re: Greetings
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:53 am
The routing is normally automatic (in Synchronet), so just "nightfox@DIGDIST" should work everywhere.
Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?
New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUSTmanaged to get DOVE-Net setup on my
system and am learning an the new termsand quirks of the system. I'm
surprised as to how easy it was to getrunning on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+
Anyway, one question. Is it possible tosend a message directly to another
user on another BBS using this systemprivately or are all messages publicly
posted?
On 10-09-18 08:19, Minex wrote to All <=-
@TZ: 4168
New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup
on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system.
I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi
3 B+. Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly
to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?
On 10-09-18 10:40, Nelgin wrote to Minex <=-
If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016 which will be routed to me.
Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct
to me or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes
via another system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh.
I've got better things to do than that.
On 10-09-18 11:56, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?
On 10-09-18 10:53, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
The routing is normally automatic (in Synchronet), so just "nightfox@DIGDIST" should work everywhere.
Nelgin Wrote:
If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016 which will be routed to me.
Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct to me or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes via another system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh. I've got better things to do than that.
Re: Re: Greetings
By: Nelgin to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:40 am
Nice. Thanks for all the quick responses! In regards to this response, this assumes that you have FidoNet working? This is the next task I want to try and conquer. I tried to follow various resources across the Internet in getting FidoNet on Synchronet but thats proving to be difficult. Its definitely more difficult than DOVE-Net.
To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer?
Is there
something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)?
Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet
capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.
To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)? Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.
Re: Re: Greetingsthis
By: Nelgin to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:40 am
Nice. Thanks for all the quick responses! In regards to this response,
assumes that you have FidoNet working? This is the next task I want to tryand
conquer. I tried to follow various resources across the Internet in getting FidoNet on Synchronet but thats proving to be difficult. Its definitelymore
difficult than DOVE-Net.something
To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there
that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS isrunning)?
Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilitiesyet,
nor have I ever setup FidoNet.
Nelgin Wrote:
If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then
send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016
which will be routed to me.
Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct to me
or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes via another
system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by
another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh. I've got better
things to do than that.
To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS is running)? Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.
Re: Re: Greetingsthis
By: Nelgin to Minex on Tue Oct 09 2018 10:40 am
Nice. Thanks for all the quick responses! In regards to this response,
assumes that you have FidoNet working? This is the next task I want to tryand
conquer. I tried to follow various resources across the Internet in getting FidoNet on Synchronet but thats proving to be difficult. Its definitelymore
difficult than DOVE-Net.something
To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there
that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my Synchronet BBS isrunning)?
Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilitiesyet,
nor have I ever setup FidoNet.
Nelgin Wrote:
If you're using the classic menu, you can go to E for Read/Send email. Then
send a netmail. You can then put in a FTN address such as sysop@1:124/5016
which will be routed to me.
Depending on how your mailer is setup, you may be able to send direct to me
or you may route through a hub. Of course, if your message goes via another
system then there's nothing stopping the packets from being examined by
another sysop. I can't see that being very likely, tbh. I've got better
things to do than that.
Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly
to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?
Yes, and if you use Synchronet's netmail menu option, when you enter user@BBSID, Synchronet will automatically put in the full route into the To address.
But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages, then I'm wondering how the message would get there.
Re: Re: Greetings
By: Tony Langdon to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 11:22 am
Ah, didn't know that. So even if their BBS doesn't connect directly
to mine, nightfox@DIGDIST could still be routed through VERT?
Yes, and if you use Synchronet's netmail menu option, when you enter user@BBSID, Synchronet will automatically put in the full route into the To address.
But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages, then I'm wondering how the message would get there.
Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.
At least you won't bring any preconceived notions with you. :-)
digital man
But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If
Both the systems have to be the on the same QWK network. Similar concept as FidoNet (except the routing information is maintained on all the leaf nodes with QWKnet).
Re: Re: Greetings
By: Nightfox to Tony Langdon on Wed Oct 10 2018 09:55:05
But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages, then I'm wondering how the message would get there.
You have a connection with the other BBS by virtue of sharing a hub with it. Or you don't, and your message will not get there. Without an FTN-style nodelist your BBS won't know how to make a direct connection to [QWKID].
How Synchronet determines QWK netmail routing I don't know, but I would guess the 'qwknodes' utility sheds some light. It scans QWK-networked subs and assembles lists of routes, nodes, and users based on messages it finds there. Maybe there's a fallback to your first/only QWK hub if that fails, or maybe in some cases you do need to specify the node & hub when addressing the message.
Or perhaps it's not so sophisticated and just sends something that looks like QWK netmail without a specified hub through your first hub and hopes for the best.
Both the systems have to be the on the same QWK network. Similar concept as FidoNet (except the routing information is maintained on all the leaf nodes with QWKnet).
Nelgin wrote:
Oh, additionally. It looks Terry Barlow is the RC for Colorado. He will be able to tell you who to contact to get a fidonet node number. tbarlow550@gmail.com
Once set up successfully, there's other networks you can join, which are mostly empty and consist of "is this thing working" type messages but still, there's stuff out there. Look for "othernets" as they're known.
Re: Re: Greetings
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Wed Oct 10 2018 10:24 am
Both the systems have to be the on the same QWK network. Similar concept as FidoNet (except the routing information is maintained on all the leaf nodes with QWKnet).
What if the BBSes are both on Dove-Net, and also one of the BBSes hosts another QWK network that the other BBS accesses? I host a couple of QWK networks, so would a message to nightfox@DIGDIST get routed both through VERT and directly to my BBS from the other BBS?
On 10-10-18 09:55, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
But what if you don't have a connection to the destination BBS? If
your BBS or that other BBS aren't set up on Dove-Net, for instance, and neither you nor the other BBS call each other to exchange messages,
then I'm wondering how the message would get there.
On 10-10-18 04:34, Nelgin wrote to Minex <=-
As others have said, BinkIT comes with sbbs but I don't use it, I use binkd and have had a lot of success with it. It's another bit to
configure but I don't mind. If you want the fullu integrated approach
then BinkIT is the way to go.
On 10-10-18 09:15, Minex wrote to Nelgin <=-
@TZ: 4168
Re: Re: Greetings
By: Nelgin to Minex on Wed Oct 10 2018 04:40 am
This is perfect, thanks! I was stuck on the part of the instructions indicating that I need to send a NetMail to the temporary address
listed in the fidonet policy4 document. It looks like I have NetMail working, but the Policy4 document lists nothing about a temporary
address. I'll just contact Terry.
Nelgin wrote:
Oh, additionally. It looks Terry Barlow is the RC for Colorado. He will be able to tell you who to contact to get a fidonet node number. tbarlow550@gmail.com
Once set up successfully, there's other networks you can join, which are mostly empty and consist of "is this thing working" type messages but still, there's stuff out there. Look for "othernets" as they're known.
On 10-09-18 17:11, Minex wrote to All <=-
To kick this off, it looks like I need a front end mailer? Is there something that can accomplish this on a rasperry pi (where my
Synchronet BBS is running)? Keep in mind that I dont have a FidoNet
number or any FidoNet capabilities yet, nor have I ever setup FidoNet.
This is perfect, thanks! I was stuck on the part of the instructions indicating that I need to send a NetMail to the temporary address
New Synchronet BBS system here. I JUST managed to get DOVE-Net setup on my system and am learning an the new terms and quirks of the system. I'm surprised as to how easy it was to get running on my Raspberry Pi 3 B+. Anyway, one question. Is it possible to send a message directly to another user on another BBS using this system privately or are all messages publicly posted?
able to tell you who to contact to get a fidonet node number. tbarlow550@gmail.com
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