• synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages

    From Michael Pierce@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 02, 2018 09:20:35
    From: michael.pierce@1:340/201.remove-x6g-this

    right now, my fidonet hub is semi-down
    so I have been posting via dove-net most of the time, and poll regularly
    for some reason I never seem to get a new message alert via dove-net, only via fidonet ?? shouldn't qwk/vert be where its seen first?

    Michael
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  • From Digital Man@1:229/2 to All on Thursday, August 02, 2018 23:54:54
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    To: Michael Pierce
    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Michael Pierce to All on Thu Aug 02 2018 09:20 am

    right now, my fidonet hub is semi-down
    so I have been posting via dove-net most of the time, and poll regularly
    for some reason I never seem to get a new message alert via dove-net, only via fidonet ?? shouldn't qwk/vert be where its seen first?

    "new message alerts" ("so and so posted a message to on on some sub-board") is a feature of SBBSecho (for fido-style networks). Synchronet itself does not have this feature for QWK networks. You'll still receive the messages, you just don't get notified about each new message addressed to your name during logon. Are we talking about the same thing?

    digital man

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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to Digital Man on Friday, August 03, 2018 18:06:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-vzz-this

    To: Digital Man
    On 08-02-18 23:54, Digital Man wrote to Michael Pierce <=-

    "new message alerts" ("so and so posted a message to on on some sub-board") is a feature of SBBSecho (for fido-style networks).
    Synchronet itself does not have this feature for QWK networks. You'll still receive the messages, you just don't get notified about each new message addressed to your name during logon. Are we talking about the
    same thing?

    Sounds like the one. Yes, I noticed that too, found it a little "odd", but just accepted it as how Synchronet works and moved on. :) The fact that the FTN notifications are clearly labelled as being from SBBSEcho helped the penny to drop. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to Michael Pierce on Friday, August 03, 2018 18:02:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-vzz-this

    To: Michael Pierce
    On 08-02-18 09:20, Michael Pierce wrote to All <=-

    right now, my fidonet hub is semi-down
    so I have been posting via dove-net most of the time, and poll
    regularly for some reason I never seem to get a new message alert via dove-net, only via fidonet ?? shouldn't qwk/vert be where its seen
    first?

    The message alerts come from SBBSEcho, but Dove-Net is distributed via QWK, and the qnet-ftp doesn't generate the new message alerts.


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  • From MRO@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 03, 2018 16:57:35
    From: mro@BBSESINF.remove-4sx-this

    To: Tony Langdon
    Re: Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Tony Langdon to Digital Man on Fri Aug 03 2018 06:06 pm


    Sounds like the one. Yes, I noticed that too, found it a little "odd", but just accepted it as how Synchronet works and moved on. :) The fact that the FTN notifications are clearly labelled as being from SBBSEcho helped the penny to drop. :)


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  • From Tony Langdon@1:229/2 to MRO on Saturday, August 04, 2018 08:47:00
    From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-5j9-this

    To: MRO
    On 08-03-18 16:57, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    You can still do a scan for only your msgs automatically in your
    command shell.

    True, as I said, for me, no biggie, Multimail does a new messages scan too when I open the QWK packet. :D


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  • From Michael Pierce@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 03, 2018 06:42:36
    From: michael.pierce@FLUXCAP.remove-t66-this

    To: Digital Man
    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Digital Man to Michael Pierce on Thu Aug 02 2018 11:54 pm

    "new message alerts" ("so and so posted a message to on on some sub-board") a feature of SBBSecho (for fido-style networks). Synchronet itself does not have this feature for QWK networks. You'll still receive the messages, you j don't get notified about each new message addressed to your name during logo Are we talking about the same thing?

    digital man

    yes, that would be correct - shouldn't synchronet be able to notify you of qwk network messages - otherwise, the only way *anyone* is going to see a reply to their message is if they read that area everytime.. not good if you were to have serveral qwk networks!



    Michael

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  • From MRO@1:229/2 to All on Friday, August 03, 2018 21:03:28
    From: mro@BBSESINF.remove-t9n-this

    To: Michael Pierce
    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Michael Pierce to Digital Man on Fri Aug 03 2018 06:42 am

    yes, that would be correct - shouldn't synchronet be able to notify you of qwk network messages - otherwise, the only way *anyone* is going to see a reply to their message is if they read that area everytime.. not good if you were to have serveral qwk networks!


    you can do a scan for YOUR msgs.

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  • From mark lewis@1:229/2 to you on Saturday, August 04, 2018 17:41:46
    From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-nl2-this

    To: Michael Pierce

    On 2018 Aug 03 06:42:36, you wrote to Digital Man:

    "new message alerts" ("so and so posted a message to on on some
    sub-board") a feature of SBBSecho (for fido-style networks).
    Synchronet itself does not have this feature for QWK networks. You'll
    still receive the messages, you j don't get notified about each new
    message addressed to your name during logo Are we talking about the
    same thing?

    yes, that would be correct - shouldn't synchronet be able to notify you of qwk network messages

    it could, yes... it just doesn't right now...

    - otherwise, the only way *anyone* is going to see a
    reply to their message is if they read that area everytime..

    does the "scan for new messages to you" option not work on your system? ;)

    not good if you were to have serveral qwk networks!

    somehow i don't see that as a problem -=B-)

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  • From mark lewis@1:229/2 to you on Saturday, August 04, 2018 17:43:34
    From: mark.lewis@1:3634/12.73.remove-nl2-this

    To: MRO

    On 2018 Aug 03 21:03:28, you wrote to Michael Pierce:

    yes, that would be correct - shouldn't synchronet be able to notify you
    of qwk network messages - otherwise, the only way *anyone* is going to
    see a reply to their message is if they read that area everytime.. not
    good if you were to have serveral qwk networks!

    you can do a scan for YOUR msgs.

    i would find it annoying to see popup msgs from every network and dont want it.

    yup... i don't know of a way to turn it off on a per user basis... i'm sure it could be done and those entries flushed when the user logs off... do it when they logoff in case they decide to change the option and want to see them during that logon... unless they've read them already...

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  • From MRO@1:229/2 to All on Saturday, August 04, 2018 19:17:27
    From: mro@BBSESINF.remove-z4-this

    To: mark lewis
    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: mark lewis to MRO on Sat Aug 04 2018 05:43 pm

    yup... i don't know of a way to turn it off on a per user basis... i'm sure it could be done and those entries flushed when the user logs off... do it when they logoff in case they decide to change the option and want to see them during that logon... unless they've read them already...


    you can create a prompt to ask them, then have it set a flag.
    then when they login, if they chose yes, it checks for the flag and runs the scan. flags are very very useful.
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  • From Digital Man@1:229/2 to All on Monday, August 06, 2018 11:20:57
    From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-px1-this

    To: Michael Pierce
    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Michael Pierce to Digital Man on Fri Aug 03 2018 06:42 am

    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Digital Man to Michael Pierce on Thu Aug 02 2018 11:54 pm

    "new message alerts" ("so and so posted a message to on on some sub-board") a feature of SBBSecho (for fido-style networks). Synchronet itself does not have this feature for QWK networks. You'll still receive the messages, you j don't get notified about each new message addressed to your name during logo Are we talking about the same thing?

    yes, that would be correct - shouldn't synchronet be able to notify you of qwk network messages -

    It could, but never has. Whether it "should" or not is a subjective question.

    otherwise, the only way *anyone* is going to see a
    reply to their message is if they read that area everytime.. not good if you were to have serveral qwk networks!

    The message should appear automatically as part of a "new" scan or a "your message scan".

    digital man

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  • From Nightfox@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 12:45:04
    From: nightfox@DIGDIST.remove-58e-this

    To: Digital Man
    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Digital Man to Michael Pierce on Mon Aug 06 2018 11:20 am

    yes, that would be correct - shouldn't synchronet be able to notify
    you of qwk network messages -

    It could, but never has. Whether it "should" or not is a subjective question.

    I've logged into Vertrauen and have noticed that SBBSEcho notifies me of new messages to me posted on Dove-Net. I thought SBBSEcho only worked with FTN networks and didn't work with QWK networks.. Unless you have Dove-Net set up via FTN for some BBSes?

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@1:229/2 to All on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 14:00:53
    From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-toh-this

    To: Nightfox
    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Wed Aug 08 2018 12:45 pm

    Re: synchronet not reading dove-net for new messages
    By: Digital Man to Michael Pierce on Mon Aug 06 2018 11:20 am

    yes, that would be correct - shouldn't synchronet be able to notify
    you of qwk network messages -

    It could, but never has. Whether it "should" or not is a subjective question.

    I've logged into Vertrauen and have noticed that SBBSEcho notifies me of new messages to me posted on Dove-Net. I thought SBBSEcho only worked with FTN networks and didn't work with QWK networks.. Unless you have Dove-Net set up via FTN for some BBSes?

    That's correct. A few of the DOVE-Net conferences are gated to FidoNet and thus messages imported to you via SBBSecho in those conferences will send you notifications (if you have an account with the same name) here on Vertrauen.

    digital man

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