Good morning,
As I am attempting to setup Doors, I have run into an issue. I am hoping that someone can assist me with this as it has been quite a while since I have setup any doors in Sync. I followed the documentation to setup LORD that is listed on the Support site, when I attempt to run the program, it errors out on me, and in the Sync control panel I get the following error:
Node 1 !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) (WinError 2) in xtrn.cpp line 733 executing "C:\sbbs\xtrn\lord\START 1" access=16384 (useron=Spiff Wiggler).
Spiff Wiggler wrote to All on 06-14-18 05:38 <=-
As I am attempting to setup Doors, I have run into an issue. I am
hoping that someone can assist me with this as it has been quite a
while since I have setup any doors in Sync. I followed the
documentation to setup LORD that is listed on the Support site, when I attempt to run the program, it errors out on me, and in the Sync
control panel I get the following error:
Node 1 !ERROR 2 (No such file or directory) (WinError 2) in xtrn.cpp
line 733 executing "C:\sbbs\xtrn\lord\START 1" access=16384
(useron=Spiff Wiggler).
At present, this is the only door that I have attempted to add. I'm
hoping that someone can assist me in understanding what is happening so that I can resolve the issue and prevent it from any installs in the future.
lord\start.bat is a batch file, yes? You must have "Use Shell to Execute" set to "Yes".
Or you can by-pass the start.bat file and just run lord.exe directly (and then you don't need a shell [command.com] to execute it).
Re: Error when running LORD
By: Digital Man to Spiff Wiggler on Thu Jun 14 2018 01:32 pm
lord\start.bat is a batch file, yes? You must have "Use Shell to Execute" set to "Yes".
Or you can by-pass the start.bat file and just run lord.exe directly (and then you don't need a shell [command.com] to execute it).
i'm pretty sure you need all the goodies in the start.bat file
i'm pretty sure you need all the goodies in the start.bat file
I don't use it. <shrug>
To: Digital Man
Re: Error when running LORD By: Digital Man to MRO on Fri Jun 15 2018
12:23 pm
i'm pretty sure you need all the goodies in the start.bat file
I don't use it. <shrug>
IF "%1" == "" GOTO NOSTART
IF EXIST INFO.%1 DEL INFO.%1 IF EXIST DO%1.BAT DEL DO%1.BAT
:BEGIN rem LORD.EXE %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 /DREW NORIP LORD.EXE %1 %2 %3 %4 %5
/drew NORIP IF ERRORLEVEL 255 GOTO DONE IF ERRORLEVEL 254 GOTO DO1 GOTO
DONE
:DO1 CALL DO%1.BAT GOTO BEGIN
:NOSTART CALL START.BAT 0 GOTO REALDONE
:DONE IF EXIST INFO.%1 DEL INFO.%1 IF EXIST DO%1.BAT DEL DO%1.BAT
:REALDONE
there's some cleanup lines and also if you run igms [which you should]
they sometimes append things to the bottom of start.bat ---
there's some cleanup lines and also if you run igms [which you should] they sometimes append things to the bottom of start.bat ---
Why "should" IGMs be run?
To: Dan C
Re: Re: Error when running LORD By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Tue
Jun 19 2018 01:28 pm
there's some cleanup lines and also if you run igms [which you
should]
they sometimes append things to the bottom of start.bat ---
Why "should" IGMs be run?
because they increase the enjoyment of the game.
did you ever play lord?
because they increase the enjoyment of the game.
did you ever play lord?
Yes, I play it frequently. I have played both stock LORD games and those with IGMs. The IGMs add a certain enjoyment to the game, and are interesting, but.... I prefer to play the standard game because the IGMs change the "feel" of the game and can almost (sometimes) make it seem that
a player is cheating or has an unfair advantage.
I think a BBS should offer both a standard LORD game, and one with IGMs
for those that want that.
On 06-27-18 02:46, Dan C wrote to alt.bbs.synchronet <=-
I think a BBS should offer both a standard LORD game, and one with IGMs for those that want that.
for those that want that.
LORD was meant to be extendable with IGMs. As long as the IGMs don't do anything like give free upgrades etc., I don't think it's cheating. And everyone has access to the same IGMs anyway, so I don't think anyone would have an unfair advantage.
Yes, I play it frequently. I have played both stock LORD games and those with IGMs. The IGMs add a certain enjoyment to the game, and are interesting, but.... I prefer to play the standard game because the IGMs change the "feel" of the game and can almost (sometimes) make it seem that a player is cheating or has an unfair advantage.
I think a BBS should offer both a standard LORD game, and one with IGMs for those that want that.
To: Dan C
Re: Re: Error when running LORD By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed
Jun 27 2018 02:46 am
because they increase the enjoyment of the game.
did you ever play lord?
Yes, I play it frequently. I have played both stock LORD games and
those with IGMs. The IGMs add a certain enjoyment to the game, and
are interesting, but.... I prefer to play the standard game because
the IGMs change the "feel" of the game and can almost (sometimes)
make it seem that a player is cheating or has an unfair advantage.
well this is when being a good sysop comes in. you have to know which compliment that game and which ones are total cheat fests.
I think a BBS should offer both a standard LORD game, and one with
IGMs for those that want that.
yeah, i do that. and i have several lord games to keep things
interesting.
i have some with rotating menu sets, rotating igms, some with npcs, some without. some games have cheater igms, some dont.
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â– Synchronet â– ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.110
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California - telnet://vert.synchro.net
On Thu, 28 Jun 2018 00:01:08 -0500, MRO wrote:
To: Dan C
Re: Re: Error when running LORD By: Dan C to alt.bbs.synchronet on
Wed Jun 27 2018 02:46 am
because they increase the enjoyment of the game.
did you ever play lord?
Yes, I play it frequently. I have played both stock LORD games and
those with IGMs. The IGMs add a certain enjoyment to the game, and
are interesting, but.... I prefer to play the standard game because
the IGMs change the "feel" of the game and can almost (sometimes)
make it seem that a player is cheating or has an unfair advantage.
well this is when being a good sysop comes in. you have to know which
compliment that game and which ones are total cheat fests.
Yep, agreed.
I think a BBS should offer both a standard LORD game, and one with
IGMs for those that want that.
yeah, i do that. and i have several lord games to keep things
interesting.
i have some with rotating menu sets, rotating igms, some with npcs,
some without. some games have cheater igms, some dont.
Sounds like a good setup.
What's your BBS address?
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â– Synchronet â– ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.110
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California -
â– Synchronet â– ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.110
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California -
MRO? What's your BBS address? The origin line of your message shows only Vertrauen...
I'd like to check it out, thanks.
i get my feed from vert.Looks like the person who queried you is on the Fidonet side. I see your QWK origin line, similarly to you, I'd be appearing to come from Vertrauen (by QWK), but my Fidonet origin line would give me away. But if I responded from DoveNet instead, it would all look consistent.
On 07-06-18 14:17, Nightfox wrote to Dan C <=-
That also shows bbses.info, which I'm pretty sure belongs to Mro.. I'm guessing the Vertrauen line may have been added because it passed
through Vertrauen?
On 07-06-18 17:32, MRO wrote to Dan C <=-
i get my feed from vert.
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þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
* Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
â– Synchronet â– ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
MRO? What's your BBS address? The origin line of your message shows only Vertrauen...
On 07-06-18 14:17, Nightfox wrote to Dan C <=-
That also shows bbses.info, which I'm pretty sure belongs to Mro.. I'm guessing the Vertrauen line may have been added because it passed through Vertrauen?
The person who queried it would have been on Fidonet, which is where I usually interact with this sub, but I'm replying from Dove this time. The Fidonet origin shows Vertrauen, but the QWK origin line is still clearly visible as a tagline in MOR's messages. Of course, on this side, all looks correct, as we're all interacting via QWK (when I'm posting from this side ;) ).
On 2018 Jul 07 18:23:00, you wrote to MRO:
i'm not qwk. i'm nntp
I'm talking about the network link between your BBS and Vertrauen.
How does mail get transferred between the two?
he knows... he's just trying to cornfuze things...
On 07-07-18 00:42, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i'm not qwk. i'm nntp
On 07-07-18 00:42, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i'm not qwk. i'm nntp
I'm talking about the network link between your BBS and Vertrauen. How does mail get transferred between the two?
i dont know why we are even talking about this
because someone asked about your QWK line below and it being followed by Vertrauen's FTN Origin line...
Sounds like a good setup.
What's your BBS address?
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â– Synchronet â– ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
--- Synchronet 3.17a-Win32 NewsLink 1.110
* Vertrauen - Riverside County, California -
i'm not qwk. i'm nntp
I'm talking about the network link between your BBS and Vertrauen.
How does mail get transferred between the two?
he knows... he's just trying to cornfuze things...
i dont know why we are even talking about this
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þ Synchronet þ ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
* Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)
On 07-07-18 00:42, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
i'm not qwk. i'm nntp
I'm talking about the network link between your BBS and Vertrauen. How does mail get transferred between the two?
On 07-07-18 11:36, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
i connect to vert via nntp
i'm not qwk. i'm nntp
I'm talking about the network link between your BBS and Vertrauen.
How does mail get transferred between the two?
On 07-07-18 10:21, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
he knows... he's just trying to cornfuze things...
On 07-07-18 10:21, mark lewis wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
he knows... he's just trying to cornfuze things...
Looks like he really is using NNTP, not sure is as a BBS linking via NNTP or a user direct to Vert. Rob confirmed that.
he knows... he's just trying to cornfuze things...
Looks like he really is using NNTP, not sure is as a BBS linking via NNTP or a user direct to Vert. Rob confirmed that.
On 07-08-18 02:46, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
his bbs is doing msg networking via nntp to vert
i dont know why we are even talking about this
because someone asked about your QWK line below and it being followed
by Vertrauen's FTN Origin line...
i thought they mentioned it but didnt ask.
That's one method of networking BBSs that I haven't tried yet.
i highly recommend it. for synchronet to synchronet it's the best and easiest
On 07-08-18 02:46, MRO wrote to Vk3jed <=-
his bbs is doing msg networking via nntp to vert
That's one method of networking BBSs that I haven't tried yet.
Re: Re: Error when running LORD
By: MRO to Tony Langdon on Sun Jul 08 2018 01:27 pm
That's one method of networking BBSs that I haven't tried yet.
i highly recommend it. for synchronet to synchronet it's the best and easiest
That's inteseting. It there a document that describes how to set that up?
On 07-08-18 08:13, mark lewis wrote to Vk3jed <=-
since it has his BBS info line in it, i would guess that it is server-to-server NNTP just like in usenet connecting usenet servers
i highly recommend it. for synchronet to synchronet it's the best and easiest
That's inteseting. It there a document that describes how to set that up?
On 07-08-18 13:27, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
i highly recommend it. for synchronet to synchronet it's the best and easiest ---
On 07-08-18 08:17, mark lewis wrote to MRO <=-
the great thing is that we used to be able to send netmail replies to those messages and they would properly route back through the Z42
gateway to the Z85 gateway and finally back into Z321 through that gateway... can't do that today no thanks to FTN politicians and NIMBY syndrome...
things really got fun when there were QWK networks in the path, too...
... A steak pun is a rare medium well done.
On 07-08-18 12:10, Al wrote to MRO <=-
That's inteseting. It there a document that describes how to set that
up?
On 07-08-18 14:23, Digital Man wrote to Al <=-
On the server/hub side, it's the usual: http://wiki.synchro.net/service:nntp and the nodes need the
Q-restriction.
On the client/node side, you'd use NewsLink: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:newslink
I actually *don't* recommend it for DOVE-Net since you lose some
features that we get with QWKnet (color-codes, avatars, voting).
On the server/hub side, it's the usual: http://wiki.synchro.net/service:nntp and the nodes need the Q-restriction.
On the client/node side, you'd use NewsLink: http://wiki.synchro.net/module:newslink
I actually *don't* recommend it for DOVE-Net since you lose some features that we get with QWKnet (color-codes, avatars, voting).
his bbs is doing msg networking via nntp to vert
That's one method of networking BBSs that I haven't tried yet.
... A steak pun is a rare medium well done.
And TV is like a steak - a medium, rarely well done. :P
On 07-08-18 13:27, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
i highly recommend it. for synchronet to synchronet it's the best and easiest ---
Dunno about easiest, as QWK under Synchronet is dead simple. What are the advantages of NNTP here? I normally use FTN or QWK, but curious to know what NNTP does better for BBS "echomail". Might be something to experiment with.
I suspect you could work it out from stuff on the wiki, haven't investigated yet. I might offer NNTP as a feed option for VKRadio. :)
On 07-08-18 12:10, Al wrote to MRO <=-
That's inteseting. It there a document that describes how to set that up?
I suspect you could work it out from stuff on the wiki, haven't investigated yet. I might offer NNTP as a feed option for VKRadio. :)
That's what I thought.. I wasn't sure why you'd want to use NNTP for Dove-Net message networking.
On 07-09-18 09:48, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
Re: Re: Error when running LORD
By: Tony Langdon to MRO on Sun Jul 08 2018 06:46 pm
his bbs is doing msg networking via nntp to vert
That's one method of networking BBSs that I haven't tried yet.
I knew Synchronet supported NNTP, but I didn't know people were using
NNTP for message networking. I'm not sure NNTP provides all the same features as QWK.. For instance, with QWK, you can send someone an email with an address such as username@VERT, and it will be sent to them at Vertrauen. Can you do the same type of thing with NNTP?
On 07-09-18 09:51, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
If you don't cook a steak well, it becomes a misteak.
On 07-09-18 09:49, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
That's what I thought.. I wasn't sure why you'd want to use NNTP for Dove-Net message networking.
On 07-09-18 09:45, Al wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I think I disabled NNTP here because I don't understand it well. I see
MRO is able to write messages to: someone, so I'll have to look into enabling that here as well.
Yeah same here, I had no idea that NNTP was used for anything other than newsreader access to the BBS or bringing in Usenet newsgroups. I have no
questions. He's already said that polling and avatars aren't supported in NNTP (neither of which I use anyway, for other technical limitations).
On 07-09-18 15:51, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
it's even easlier than qwk. try it out. takes a few mins
On 07-09-18 23:02, MRO wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
if the bbs has nntp then you can BRING in its newsgroups.
That's what I thought.. I wasn't sure why you'd want to use NNTP
for Dove-Net message networking.
I wouldn't use it on Dove (especially since QWK works well too, and it offers the extra features), but I would be interested in playing with NNTP on another network. :)
The only times I've used NNTP with Synchronet was accessing my BBS message areas with an NNTP client on my phone, and years ago when I had vBulletin (web forum software) set up on my BBS machine, I used an NNTP plugin to connect it to my BBS message areas. I'm not using vBulletin anymore though.
On 07-10-18 09:37, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
The only times I've used NNTP with Synchronet was accessing my BBS
message areas with an NNTP client on my phone, and years ago when I had vBulletin (web forum software) set up on my BBS machine, I used an NNTP plugin to connect it to my BBS message areas. I'm not using vBulletin anymore though.
Yeah, accessing my BBS from a phone was the only reason I've used NNTP so far, though I didn't stick with it for long, because it was a pain keeping lastread pointers and subscriptions in sync. Linking to a web forum is an interesting option. How well did that work?
Also, the NNTP plugin for vBulletin would periodically update the messages in the vBulletin database from Synchronet, so Synchronet to vBulletin (and back) wasn't real-time. But I thought it was cool..
Also, the NNTP plugin for vBulletin would periodically update the
messages in the vBulletin database from Synchronet, so Synchronet to
vBulletin (and back) wasn't real-time. But I thought it was cool..
yeah, it was cool. i just didnt find it as handey as i thought i would.
i got the idea of doing it from hax0r at unknownrealm.org. he was the first guy to do it.
On 07-12-18 15:15, Nightfox wrote to MRO <=-
I think echicken's ecwebv4 provides a web interface for Synchronet that
is very similar to vBulletin. Plus, ecwebv4 doesn't need to
periodically synchronize the messages, and since ecwebv4 interfaces directly with Synchronet, there is no need for a 3rd-party web forum solution which uses its own database.
On 07-12-18 09:14, Nightfox wrote to Tony Langdon <=-
I think it worked relatively well.. though last read pointers &
things like that might not have been updated. I think a user could potentially even create a vBulletin account without creating an account
on the BBS and read messages with the vBulletin interface.. though, I think I had disabled new user creation on the vBulletin side, and I had
a script that would add a vBulletin account for new users when people created a new account on my BBS in the traditional way (telnet
interface).
Also, the NNTP plugin for vBulletin would periodically update the
messages in the vBulletin database from Synchronet, so Synchronet to vBulletin (and back) wasn't real-time. But I thought it was cool..
I think echicken's ecwebv4 provides a web interface for Synchronet that is very similar to vBulletin. Plus, ecwebv4 doesn't need to periodically synchronize the messages, and since ecwebv4 interfaces directly with Synchronet, there is no need for a 3rd-party web forum solution which uses its own database.
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