I considered making a docker image with Synchronet on it, But really itcomes down to configuration. Synchronet is easy to install, but it takes a lot of work to get configured, which isn't something you can just "package"
I wonder what it would take to get package support via apt for Synchronet? Being able to do "apt-get update" for Synchronet and dependencies would go a long way towards what you're saying.
I was also thinking that a baked-in screen editor/file manager would be useful. Perhaps integration with Midnight Commander?
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Should setting up a board be a little tough, just to weed out the riff-raff? Maybe. But if the goal is to get more people into the hobby, perhaps thisidea
has some merit:
A Raspberry Pi image preinstalled with Synchronet...
I'll skip specifics until after the inevitable beating I'm expecting to take for this "idea".
Warp 4 wrote to dragon <=-
A Raspberry Pi image preinstalled with Synchronet...
I don't think this would be feasible as I don't think Pi users
(like myself) would be using their machines for something like a
BBS, but for more hardware-centric projects (like the
Pi-controlled Stargate model -- yes, there is one).
Not sure why you think this idea would result in a "beating".
Strange.
Midnight Commander reminds me of Norton.
$ The Millionaire $
Perhaps "beating" was the wrong word. There does seem to be someresistance
based on "issues" that could actually be solved.
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
On 10-07-20 11:15, dragon wrote to All <=-
Should setting up a board be a little tough, just to weed out the riff-raff? Maybe. But if the goal is to get more people into the
hobby, perhaps this idea has some merit:
A Raspberry Pi image preinstalled with Synchronet...
I'll skip specifics until after the inevitable beating I'm expecting to take for this "idea".
On 10-07-20 13:41, Gamgee wrote to dragon <=-
Not a bad idea, but... I just read echicken's response to you and
that's the answer. It would be quickly outdated.
As for the mechanics of it, it would be a simple matter to just
use 'dd' to make an image of your RPi disk/stick once you had it
set up the way you wanted.
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Please don't be discouraged. You don't need anyone's permission; why not just go and do it? Come back with questions if you get stuck on anything.
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Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: Gamgee to Warp 4 on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:59 am
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
I wonder how many sysops actually use a Pi for their BBS. I've
seen some sysops on Dove-Net talk about it, but I don't think we
have any actual hard numbers. I'm not using a Pi for my BBS, and
I kinda doubt that I would, because a Pi uses an ARM processor
and it would probably be more difficult to get x86 DOS emulation
working for DOS doors.
Also, I run other stuff on my BBS machine, such as a Plex media
server - though I believe Plex can run on a Pi system as well.
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Do they use a SD card? I'm not sure I would trust its reliablilty. I've had some SD cards to bad pretty quickly.
I could see hooking up an external USB HD, but at that point, wouldn't it just be easier to use a "normal" computer?
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: BlaZ to Gamgee on Thu Oct 08 2020 02:37 pm
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Do they use a SD card? I'm not sure I would trust its reliablilty. I've had some SD cards to bad pretty quickly.
I could see hooking up an external USB HD, but at that point, wouldn't it just be easier to use a "normal" computer?
Still, one advantage to a Raspberry Pi is their small size and low power consumption.
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Do they use a SD card? I'm not sure I would trust its reliablilty. I've had some SD cards to bad pretty quickly.
I could see hooking up an external USB HD, but at that point, wouldn't it just be easier to use a "normal" computer?
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Do they use a SD card? I'm not sure I would trust its reliablilty. I've had some SD cards to bad pretty quickly.
I could see hooking up an external USB HD, but at that point, wouldn't it just be easier to use a "normal" computer?
Still, one advantage to a Raspberry Pi is their small size and low power consumption.
I'm not using a Pi for my BBS, and I kinda doubt
that I would, because a Pi uses an ARM processor and it would probably
be more difficult to get x86 DOS emulation working for DOS doors.
BlaZ wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: Gamgee to Warp 4 on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:59 am
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Do they use a SD card? I'm not sure I would trust its reliablilty.
I could see hooking up an external USB HD, but at that point, wouldn't
it just be easier to use a "normal" computer?
I wonder how many sysops actually use a Pi for their BBS.
BlaZ wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: Gamgee to Warp 4 on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:59 am
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Do they use a SD card? I'm not sure I would trust its
reliablilty. I've had some SD cards to bad pretty quickly.
I could see hooking up an external USB HD, but at that point,
wouldn't it just be easier to use a "normal" computer?
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: Gamgee to Warp 4 on Thu Oct 08 2020 09:59 am
Many people run their BBS's on a Pi...
Do they use a SD card? I'm not sure I would trust its reliablilty. I've had some SD cards to bad pretty quickly.
I could see hooking up an external USB HD, but at that point, wouldn't it just be easier to use a "normal" computer?
BlaZ
While I'm running ours off a VPS, not all BBSes are implemented for the doors.
I have an instance of sbbs running on a rpi 3B+ w/128gig ssd that has an uptime of 219 days. I do have an external hd but I haven't had it connected for about 100 days.
I have an instance of sbbs running on a rpi 3B+ w/128gig ssd that has an uptime of 219 days. I do have an external hd but I haven't had it connected for about 100 days.
Once I started using higher quality SD cards, I too have very dependable Pi's.
I don't use one for my BBS, but do have one running 24x7. It does
things like regularly check/update my dynamic DNS/IP, it allows me
to use a screen session to stay idling in some IRC channels,
provides a local storage function for nightly automated backups
from the BBS, and some other stuff. It runs with an attached
(USB) 500GB laptop hard drive, no SD card to worry about.
I would not recommend using the rpi4 for sbbs (or any long uptimeservices) unless you get a big cooling fan!
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: Mortifis to dragon on Fri Oct 09 2020 06:56 pm
Howdy,
I would not recommend using the rpi4 for sbbs (or any long uptime services) unless you get a big cooling fan!
I run two instances of SBBS on a PI4 - and mine sits happily at 53'C...
How hot is yours?
53'C...
How hot is yours?
Mine idles at 54'C with a tiny 5v, the cpu seems to throttle despite the specs saying it gets throttled at 80'C. I get great performance improvements when I use an old yet larger cpu fan.
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: Mortifis to alterego on Sat Oct 10 2020 02:33 pm
53'C...
How hot is yours?
Mine idles at 54'C with a tiny 5v, the cpu seems to throttle despite the specs saying it gets throttled at 80'C. I get great performance improvements when I use an old yet larger cpu fan.
that seems kinda hot.
Mine idles at 54'C with a tiny 5v, the cpu seems to throttle despite
the specs saying it gets throttled at 80'C.
that seems kinda hot.
Should setting up a board be a little tough, just to weed out the riff-raff? Maybe. But if the goal is to get more people into the hobby, perhaps thisidea
has some merit:
A Raspberry Pi image preinstalled with Synchronet...
I'll skip specifics until after the inevitable beating I'm expecting to take for this "idea".
I wonder what it would take to get package support via apt for Synchronet? Being able to do "apt-get update" for Synchronet and dependencies would go a long way towards what you're saying.useful.
I was also thinking that a baked-in screen editor/file manager would be
Perhaps integration with Midnight Commander?
sysops on Dove-Net talk about it, but I don't think we have any actual hard numbers. I'm not using a Pi for my BBS, and I kinda doubt that I would, because a Pi uses an ARMMany people run their BBS's on a Pi...
I wonder how many sysops actually use a Pi for their BBS. I've seen some
Mine idles at 54'C with a tiny 5v, the cpu seems to throttle despite thespecs saying it gets throttled at 80'C. I get great
performance improvements when I use an old yet larger cpu fan.
Re: Re: Crazy Idea?
By: Mortifis to alterego on Sat Oct 10 2020 02:33 pm
Mine idles at 54'C with a tiny 5v, the cpu seems to throttle despite the specs saying it gets throttled at 80'C. I get great
performance improvements when I use an old yet larger cpu fan.
How do you know it throttles?
I've not noticed any change in performance that would indicate that the CPU was being throttled.
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On 10/7/2020 12:47 PM, dragon wrote:
I wonder what it would take to get package support via apt for
Synchronet?
Being able to do "apt-get update" for Synchronet and dependencies
would go a
long way towards what you're saying.
I was also thinking that a baked-in screen editor/file manager would
be useful.
Perhaps integration with Midnight Commander?
Which apt repo? Debian? Ubuntu? .. what about a PPK? How about an appImage, flatpak or snap?
The issue isn't just the executable, there's a lot of bespoke
configurations that go along with the executables.
having the desktop temp/cpu widgets active and looking at xtop ... justvisual
observations ... certain 'apps' take cpu to 100% and the temp shoots up to 80'C+ ... like I say ... only if I don't have a big ass fan sucking the heat out ... perhaps I have a rotten pi 4 but this thing definitely needs a bigfan
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