From: al@1:153/757.remove-n77-this

Hello All,

I am wondering if anyone can tell me what this means.

Warning: remote set UNSECURE session
pwd protected session (MD5)

The above is an extract from a binkd -> binkit mailer session. I have see the same with a binkd -> binkd mailer session.

I have seen the above message from a binkd mailer. It made me curious at the time but there was no error so I let it go.

Another node has seen this now from BinkIT and asked me what it means.

It's a cryptic message. The second line seems to contradict the first line.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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From: eugene.subbotin@2:5075/35.remove-hha-this

To: Al
Hello, Al!

Monday March 16 2020 11:58:00, you wrote to All:

I am wondering if anyone can tell me what this means.

Warning: remote set UNSECURE session
pwd protected session (MD5)

The above is an extract from a binkd -> binkit mailer session. I have
see the same with a binkd -> binkd mailer session.

I have seen the above message from a binkd mailer. It made me curious
at the time but there was no error so I let it go.

Another node has seen this now from BinkIT and asked me what it means.

It's a cryptic message. The second line seems to contradict the first line.

looks like BitkIT doesn't support lowercase session passwords

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From: al@1:153/757.remove-fa1-this

To: Eugene Subbotin

I am wondering if anyone can tell me what this means.

Warning: remote set UNSECURE session
pwd protected session (MD5)

The above is an extract from a binkd -> binkit mailer session. I have
see the same with a binkd -> binkd mailer session.

I have seen the above message from a binkd mailer. It made me curious
at the time but there was no error so I let it go.

Another node has seen this now from BinkIT and asked me what it means.

It's a cryptic message. The second line seems to contradict the first
line.

looks like BitkIT doesn't support lowercase session passwords

I'm not sure that case is an issue. I have used lower case, upper case and mixed case passwords with binkit and have not seen issues. Of course the nodes on both sides of the link need to enter the password as needed.

Whatever case was used it was a pwd protected session (MD5), but why the "remote set UNSECURE session"?

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From: digital.man@vert.synchro.net.remove-wbh-this

To: Eugene Subbotin
Re: Re: unsecure session?
By: Eugene Subbotin to Al on Sat Mar 21 2020 07:20 pm

looks like BitkIT doesn't support lowercase session passwords

It does.

digital man

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From: tony.langdon@3:633/410.remove-ho7-this

To: Eugene Subbotin

On 03-21-20 19:20, Eugene Subbotin wrote to Al <=-

looks like BitkIT doesn't support lowercase session passwords

Hmm, I hope it does, since BinkP session passwords are supposed to be case sensitive.

And I'm sure I have links running BinkIT that are using mixed case passwords.

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From: dumas.walker@CAPCITY2.remove-zwa-this

To: EUGENE SUBBOTIN

looks like BitkIT doesn't support lowercase session passwords

It does.

digital man

Yes. Some of mine are all lower case, and some are mixed case. I have not noticed any issues with either.


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From: tracker1@TRN.remove-11ey-this

To: Al
On 3/21/2020 10:37 AM, Al wrote:

I'm not sure that case is an issue. I have used lower case, upper case and mixed case passwords with binkit and have not seen issues. Of course the

nodes

on both sides of the link need to enter the password as needed.

Whatever case was used it was a pwd protected session (MD5), but why the "remote set UNSECURE session"?

Just guessing, it's an insecure protocol, and md5 is *NOT* secure for passphrase hashing, theres established collision systems these days.

If the protocol was over TLS, then at least the md5 is less of an issue,
though even with TLS, odds are you'd be using a self-signed cert, and
the client wouldn't actually validate.

Would really love to see more/better integration with say Let's Encrypt
to get everything over secure protocols with real certs.

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From: al@1:153/757.remove-43x-this

To: Tracker1

Would really love to see more/better integration with say Let's Encrypt
to get everything over secure protocols with real certs.

BinkIT is able to transfer mail and files over TLS now. It works between Synchronet <-> binkd and mystic now. By default it uses Synchronet's self signed cert but could probably use a cert from letsencrypt.

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